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Author Topic: 2022-2023 NFL Season  (Read 121112 times)

Uncle Rico

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #250 on: March 18, 2022, 08:15:26 PM »
Adams contract details are out. If I’m a Packer fan, I’d stop reading this now.

5 years/$140, which is really 3/$67 ($66 guaranteed)

2022 cap hit $8
2023 cap hit $30
2024 cap hit $21

Two years of fluff at more than manageable dead cap hits (7.7 in 25 and 3.8 in 26).

That’s a fantastic contract for Vegas.

I’ve been assured by Packers fans the Raiders will regret this trade
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #251 on: March 18, 2022, 11:20:39 PM »
I’ve been assured by Packers fans the Raiders will regret this trade
The Packers cooled on him? Probably can't cut it academically. 

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #252 on: March 19, 2022, 10:04:35 AM »
Adams contract details are out. If I’m a Packer fan, I’d stop reading this now.

5 years/$140, which is really 3/$67 ($66 guaranteed)

2022 cap hit $8
2023 cap hit $30
2024 cap hit $21

Two years of fluff at more than manageable dead cap hits (7.7 in 25 and 3.8 in 26).

That’s a fantastic contract for Vegas.

You see, there was simply no way to fit it under the cap

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #253 on: March 19, 2022, 11:20:24 AM »
Is a possible explanation here that Adams was sick of the Aaron Rodgers circus, and didn’t want to play for the Packers again (even if it meant a QB downgrade) but that isn’t all Guteys fault?  That still leaves open the question of why Gutey took less than the two first rounders as comp, but maybe it was to facilitate getting Adams to where he wanted to go? Charitable, I know, but it doesn’t seem dramatically less likely than the explanation that Adams was mad at Gutey for doing what all GMs do.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #254 on: March 19, 2022, 11:34:49 AM »
Is a possible explanation here that Adams was sick of the Aaron Rodgers circus, and didn’t want to play for the Packers again (even if it meant a QB downgrade) but that isn’t all Guteys fault?  That still leaves open the question of why Gutey took less than the two first rounders as comp, but maybe it was to facilitate getting Adams to where he wanted to go? Charitable, I know, but it doesn’t seem dramatically less likely than the explanation that Adams was mad at Gutey for doing what all GMs do.


Getting a first and second this year, versus firsts in consecutive years, was likely the motivation. I just don’t understand that if the contract was that friendly why the Packers just didn’t match?  Maybe they thought that it wasn’t worth it anyway?  More money and picks for the defense?
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #255 on: March 19, 2022, 11:49:25 AM »

Getting a first and second this year, versus firsts in consecutive years, was likely the motivation. I just don’t understand that if the contract was that friendly why the Packers just didn’t match?  Maybe they thought that it wasn’t worth it anyway?  More money and picks for the defense?

They knew Adams had zero desire to be in Green Bay anymore
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« Reply #256 on: March 19, 2022, 11:51:53 AM »
They knew Adams had zero desire to be in Green Bay anymore

Which makes me wonder if the personal connection with Rodgers wasn’t as advertised.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #257 on: March 19, 2022, 11:56:37 AM »
Which makes me wonder if the personal connection with Rodgers wasn’t as advertised.

That's what I mean. To me this feels like Adams knew he had a good thing going on the field, especially in a contract year, and is a professional so he just bit his lip and said all the right things.  But when it came time to get his and set up the rest of his career, he wanted to move on.  I wouldn't be shocked if this is coming as a big dose of humble pie to Rodgers too, who probably assumed that if he kept feeding Davante and re-signed, that Davante would re-sign too so long as the Packers found the money.

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« Reply #258 on: March 19, 2022, 11:59:46 AM »
Which makes me wonder if the personal connection with Rodgers wasn’t as advertised.

Maybe?  Adams is also 29 and if he truly wanted to play with the Raiders and Carr, this was his best opportunity to do so when still in his prime.

People always mocks players who decide not to play with Rodgers, but it worked out for OBJ
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« Reply #259 on: March 19, 2022, 12:10:42 PM »
Maybe?  Adams is also 29 and if he truly wanted to play with the Raiders and Carr, this was his best opportunity to do so when still in his prime.

People always mocks players who decide not to play with Rodgers, but it worked out for OBJ


I’m not mocking him. I’m just surprised.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #260 on: March 19, 2022, 12:13:18 PM »

I’m not mocking him. I’m just surprised.

That wasn’t directed at you
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #261 on: March 20, 2022, 06:39:46 PM »
I think Davante didn’t want to freeze his butt off any more in Green Bay
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #262 on: March 20, 2022, 08:57:56 PM »
I think Davante didn’t want to freeze his butt off any more in Green Bay
i think that's absolutely a factor. It's not for everyone

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #263 on: March 21, 2022, 12:53:47 PM »
Matt Ryan to the Colts for a 3rd.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #264 on: March 21, 2022, 01:54:46 PM »
Matt Ryan to the Colts for a 3rd.

Outside of a few teams, the NFC quickly is becoming the NFL's version of AAA ball.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #265 on: March 21, 2022, 02:21:19 PM »
Jameis re-signing with the Saints.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #266 on: March 21, 2022, 02:31:41 PM »
Jameis re-signing with the Saints.

Congrats to Jameis for having more guaranteed money than his starting fullback.

Elsewhere in the division, Matt Ryan's trade has the largest dead cap hit of all time (Aaron Rodgers: Hold my Kombucha), so the Falcons save only $9M this year. Absolute malpractice that they did not line up a QB on this roster in lieu of Kyle Pitts - don't really care if he's the second coming of Tony Gonzales.

Jordan Love could be actually be a viable candidate - either he's good enough to keep you away from the 1st overall pick and you might have a QB OR you're in prime position to be Bad for Bryce, Yuck for Young, etc etc.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #267 on: March 21, 2022, 02:39:08 PM »
Matt Ryan to the Colts for a 3rd.

I can't remember an offseason in recent memory with so much starting QB movement.  Ryan, Wentz, Wilson, Watson, Mayfield upcoming most likely.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #268 on: March 21, 2022, 03:04:21 PM »
Congrats to Jameis for having more guaranteed money than his starting fullback.

Elsewhere in the division, Matt Ryan's trade has the largest dead cap hit of all time (Aaron Rodgers: Hold my Kombucha), so the Falcons save only $9M this year. Absolute malpractice that they did not line up a QB on this roster in lieu of Kyle Pitts - don't really care if he's the second coming of Tony Gonzales.

Jordan Love could be actually be a viable candidate - either he's good enough to keep you away from the 1st overall pick and you might have a QB OR you're in prime position to be Bad for Bryce, Yuck for Young, etc etc.

Falcons just signed Marcus Mariota.
Hope they have a good Plan B, because Mariota hasn't been able stay healthy for 4+ years, even as a backup in Vegas.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #269 on: March 21, 2022, 03:12:19 PM »
Falcons just signed Marcus Mariota.
Hope they have a good Plan B, because Mariota hasn't been able stay healthy for 4+ years, even as a backup in Vegas.

I'm assuming they are setting up to get Malik Willis, in which case I like what they are doing.  Take their medicine on all this dead cap, get something back for Matt Ryan, bring in a guy who plays a smiliar style to Willis, and who presumably will be okay with playing a bridge role. 

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« Reply #270 on: March 21, 2022, 04:15:11 PM »
I'm assuming they are setting up to get Malik Willis, in which case I like what they are doing.  Take their medicine on all this dead cap, get something back for Matt Ryan, bring in a guy who plays a smiliar style to Willis, and who presumably will be okay with playing a bridge role.

This is the smart thing to do. They should not concern themselves with sucking this year. They should concern themselves with having a plan that involves sucking this year with an intermediate-term goal to stop sucking. And if you're going to take a wild swing, Willis is a good guy to bet on - crazy tools.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #271 on: March 22, 2022, 12:40:35 PM »
Speaking of QBs, amusing story, my sister and BIL went to the Mavs game last night and got floor seats from a client of his.  As part of the ticket, they had a lounge they went to during halftime.  Also in the lounge last night happened to be Kyler Murray.  After standing in line next to him to get a drink, she said him being listed as 5'10 is HYSTERICAL. A friend of theirs also in the lounge is 5'7 and she said Murray maybe had an inch on her, at best.

Not entirely surprising, cause I don't think anyone who has watched him thought he was anywhere near 6', but still funny to hear from a direct interaction nonetheless.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #272 on: March 23, 2022, 10:28:31 AM »
Tyreke will get paid, but he makes the KC offense so much more dangerous with him. I don’t think if he’s a Jet or Dolphin, his impact won’t be the same.

I don’t like whatever potential trade goes down for either side.

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« Reply #273 on: March 23, 2022, 11:24:35 AM »
Packers should use the two picks they got from The Raiders and trade that for Tyreke . I assume the money that they offered Davante would be the same they would offer Tyreke.
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