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Author Topic: 2022-2023 NFL Season  (Read 121170 times)

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2425 on: January 26, 2023, 04:52:18 PM »
I don't know much about Reich, but he went to the playoffs with Jacoby Brissett and Phillip Rivers, and finished one game out with Carson Wentz.

There are worse choices for a team that's lacking at QB.

He didn't go to the playoffs with Brissett. Unless you're talking about 2018, when Brissett backed up Andrew Luck.
He did go to the playoffs as a wild card with Phil Rivers, but so did Norv Turner, Anthony Lynn and Mike McCoy. Rivers is a HOF quarterback, after all, and he played reasonably well his one year in Indy, when they benefited from one of the league's softest schedules.
As for the Wentz year, you're burying the lead. Needing a win to secure the playoffs, the Colts lost a home game to the Raiders and then decided not to show up in week 18 and got blown out by the league's worst team.

I don't know that Reich is a bad coach. But I wouldn't be excited if I were 82 or any other Panthers fan. Nothing he's done screams that he deserves another chance this soon.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2426 on: January 26, 2023, 05:06:42 PM »
He didn't go to the playoffs with Brissett. Unless you're talking about 2018, when Brissett backed up Andrew Luck.
He did go to the playoffs as a wild card with Phil Rivers, but so did Norv Turner, Anthony Lynn and Mike McCoy. Rivers is a HOF quarterback, after all, and he played reasonably well his one year in Indy, when they benefited from one of the league's softest schedules.
As for the Wentz year, you're burying the lead. Needing a win to secure the playoffs, the Colts lost a home game to the Raiders and then decided not to show up in week 18 and got blown out by the league's worst team.

I don't know that Reich is a bad coach. But I wouldn't be excited if I were 82 or any other Panthers fan. Nothing he's done screams that he deserves another chance this soon.

He wasn't terrible in Indy, but him getting hired in and of itself was kind of a reach IMO.  His coaching career was kind of terrible up till that point.

QB coach then demoted to WR coach in Indy, fired with everyone after they went 2-14.

WR coach in Arizona, not retained after a 5-11 season where the HC was fired.

QB coach in SD, promoted to OC after Wisenhunt who brought him along left and chose not to make him the OC, instead chose the TE coach.  Reich fired after 2 seasons in which the offense stunk and were last in rushing.

Lands on his feet in Philly.  First season doesn't even half a top 15 offense.  Second season, a very good offense, but due to a top 5 rushing offense.  The passing offense for a QB/WR coach in the OC role was outside the top 10.  But they won the SB so suddenly he was anointed.

I get when amazing coordinators get picked for second chances soon after failing as HC.  But thats not Reich.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2427 on: January 26, 2023, 09:21:26 PM »
Y’all are really getting me psyched for next season.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2428 on: January 27, 2023, 09:04:37 AM »
Yeah there have been plenty of examples where NFL coaches are fired and meet success at their next gig. But those guys (think Schottenheimer, Reid, Reeves, Carroll) usually have SOMETHING that they have done that leads you to believe they can do that.  They either won as head coaches and had their teams fall apart around them (Reid) or they went back to be successful coordinators (Carroll...who of course also had success at USC.)

Reich doesn't fit that profile. Wags brought up Whisenhunt in a different context, but that seems like a better comp for a guy like Reich. Which doesn't look good for MU82 and the Panthers.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2429 on: January 27, 2023, 09:09:23 AM »
Yeah there have been plenty of examples where NFL coaches are fired and meet success at their next gig. But those guys (think Schottenheimer, Reid, Reeves, Carroll) usually have SOMETHING that they have done that leads you to believe they can do that.  They either won as head coaches and had their teams fall apart around them (Reid) or they went back to be successful coordinators (Carroll...who of course also had success at USC.)

Reich doesn't fit that profile. Wags brought up Whisenhunt in a different context, but that seems like a better comp for a guy like Reich. Which doesn't look good for MU82 and the Panthers.

I'll always have the 2015 season.

Until the Super Bowl.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2430 on: January 27, 2023, 09:14:28 AM »
Yeah there have been plenty of examples where NFL coaches are fired and meet success at their next gig. But those guys (think Schottenheimer, Reid, Reeves, Carroll) usually have SOMETHING that they have done that leads you to believe they can do that.  They either won as head coaches and had their teams fall apart around them (Reid) or they went back to be successful coordinators (Carroll...who of course also had success at USC.)

Reich doesn't fit that profile. Wags brought up Whisenhunt in a different context, but that seems like a better comp for a guy like Reich. Which doesn't look good for MU82 and the Panthers.
Also, Belichick did ok after getting fired from the Browns.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2431 on: January 27, 2023, 09:19:26 PM »
He didn't go to the playoffs with Brissett. Unless you're talking about 2018, when Brissett backed up Andrew Luck.
He did go to the playoffs as a wild card with Phil Rivers, but so did Norv Turner, Anthony Lynn and Mike McCoy. Rivers is a HOF quarterback, after all, and he played reasonably well his one year in Indy, when they benefited from one of the league's softest schedules.
As for the Wentz year, you're burying the lead. Needing a win to secure the playoffs, the Colts lost a home game to the Raiders and then decided not to show up in week 18 and got blown out by the league's worst team.

I don't know that Reich is a bad coach. But I wouldn't be excited if I were 82 or any other Panthers fan. Nothing he's done screams that he deserves another chance this soon.

You’re right. I mixed up 2018 and 2019.

Which means he went to the playoffs with Luck and Rivers. Less impressive.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2432 on: January 29, 2023, 02:02:54 PM »
Anita Baker??? 😬😬😬
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2433 on: January 29, 2023, 02:22:47 PM »
Shanahan needed to challenge that. It was fourth down, a huge play, and the only thing Shanahan would've been risking was a first-half time out.

It was obvious when Smith got up that he thought the play might be reversed if challenged.

Bad coaching cost the 49ers a 7-0 deficit.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2434 on: January 29, 2023, 02:27:34 PM »
Shanahan needed to challenge that. It was fourth down, a huge play, and the only thing Shanahan would've been risking was a first-half time out.

It was obvious when Smith got up that he thought the play might be reversed if challenged.

Bad coaching cost the 49ers a 7-0 deficit.

Was it a catch or not?

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2435 on: January 29, 2023, 02:27:39 PM »
Shanahan needed to challenge that. It was fourth down, a huge play, and the only thing Shanahan would've been risking was a first-half time out.

It was obvious when Smith got up that he thought the play might be reversed if challenged.

Bad coaching cost the 49ers a 7-0 deficit.

That’s not the only thing he was risking. If he would have been wrong he’d only have one left the rest of the game. But he should have challenged.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2436 on: January 29, 2023, 02:30:43 PM »
That’s not the only thing he was risking. If he would have been wrong he’d only have one left the rest of the game. But he should have challenged.

Yes, thanks for the correction.

Was it a catch or not?

Yes, on reverse angle the ball was clearly out when Smith hit the ground.

And then Sirianni does challenge the Purdy fumble and Philly's in business again. Also, looks like Purdy banged up on the play.

Rough start for the Niners.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2437 on: January 29, 2023, 02:35:42 PM »
This game is over
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2438 on: January 29, 2023, 02:36:57 PM »
Congrats to the eagles on making the super bowl.

Refs gotta do better

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2439 on: January 29, 2023, 02:41:03 PM »
Josh Johnson is still around huh?
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2440 on: January 29, 2023, 02:47:28 PM »
Rough start for the NFL here.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2441 on: January 29, 2023, 02:50:26 PM »
Rough start for the NFL here.

People gamble with real money on sports
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2442 on: January 29, 2023, 02:52:20 PM »
Josh Johnson is still around huh?

His 13th team! That's gotta a record or damn close to it.
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2443 on: January 29, 2023, 03:01:13 PM »
49ers defense thinks they can win this.   Field position and field goals?
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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2444 on: January 29, 2023, 03:08:52 PM »
Niners are going to win this game.

Fox and the NFL are having a really bad afternoon as well.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2445 on: January 29, 2023, 03:16:40 PM »
Looks to me that Purdy hurt his elbow when it hit the guys helmet. I don’t think that was ever even mentioned.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2446 on: January 29, 2023, 03:36:05 PM »
Defensive penalties and a bum turnover will end up killing the Niners. Their defense was controlling this game, until it wasn’t here late in the 2nd quarter.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2447 on: January 29, 2023, 03:40:08 PM »
On the Johnson fumbled snap, both Niners tackles false start.

No penalty called.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2448 on: January 29, 2023, 04:07:44 PM »
Not sure I understand how Purdy can come back in now, but couldn’t earlier.

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Re: 2022-2023 NFL Season
« Reply #2449 on: January 29, 2023, 04:08:32 PM »
Not sure I understand how Purdy can come back in now, but couldn’t earlier.

Only need one arm to handoff
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