2022-2023 NFL Season

[Pakuni]

Carson Wentz to the Football Team Commanders for two third-round picks.

[Jockey]

Great deal for the Colts. Wentz is awful.

[MU82]

"As for the narrative Love was a wasted a pick, I disagree," a former GM in the league said Tuesday. "That pick totally refocused and refreshed Rodgers as a player and as a competitor."

Yep, all the Packers had to do was trade up to draft a bad QB so that the guy they were paying tens of millions of dollars to could be refocused and refreshed enough to choke in the playoffs again.

[BrewCity83]

Yep, all the Packers had to do was trade up to draft a bad QB so that the guy they were paying tens of millions of dollars to could be refocused and refreshed enough to choke in the playoffs again.

Haters gonna hate.

[Uncle Rico]

Haters gonna hate.

He's not wrong

[jesmu84]

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1502038653366939661?t=E2oRJSJawm2uNPGMxoS9qw&s=19

Bears trading Mack.

Whoa

[Uncle Rico]

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1502038653366939661?t=E2oRJSJawm2uNPGMxoS9qw&s=19

Bears trading Mack.

Whoa

2nd and 6th round pick.  Like this move for the Bears

[Dish]

Not shocked on the Mack trade, this was going to be his last season in Chicago, Bears got something for him. They'll carry $24 mil in dead cap on Mack, but it'll actually create $6 million in cap space.

Loved the trade with Oakland when it happened, didn't pan out, but still think it was a shot worth taking.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

2nd and 6th round pick.  Like this move for the Bears

They need draft picks bad.  Like the move.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Good move for the Bears.  Mack was not going to be a key piece to the next good Bears team so better to recoup some assets now. 

Now could Quinn also be on the move? 

[Uncle Rico]

They need draft picks bad.  Like the move.

They weren't re-signing him.  I'm sure a lot of people think they didn't get enough but I'm not sure what his market was/is.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

They weren't re-signing him.  I'm sure a lot of people think they didn't get enough but I'm not sure what his market was/is.

He was still under contract through 2024. 

[Dish]

Good move for the Bears.  Mack was not going to be a key piece to the next good Bears team so better to recoup some assets now. 

Now could Quinn also be on the move?

Quinn's contract is very reasonable. I get that he's 32, but I'd expect if they do move him, they'd get a slightly better return than on Mack.

[Uncle Rico]

He was still under contract through 2024.

I see that. I mis-read something elsewhere.  Still think it was the right move long term

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I see that. I mis-read something elsewhere.  Still think it was the right move long term

It was absolutely the right move.  Love Mack and hope he does well for the Chargers but he was not going to be a big contributor when (if) the Bears are good again.  Plus he's older, declining and recently injury prone.  No complaints from me on the move. 

[Pakuni]

Quinn's contract is very reasonable. I get that he's 32, but I'd expect if they do move him, they'd get a slightly better return than on Mack.

Here's what would worry me about Quinn:

2016 - 4 sacks
2017 - 8.5 sacks
2018 - 6.5 sacks
2019 - 11.5 sacks
2020 - 2 sacks
2021 - 18.5 sacks

He's had a real hard time putting together back-to-back seasons since 2013-14.

Anyhow, while it's far from his fault, hard to look at the Mack trade as anything but a failure for the Bears. They gave up two firsts and handed him $91 million over four years and didn't win a single playoff game.

[Uncle Rico]

Here's what would worry me about Quinn:

2016 - 4 sacks
2017 - 8.5 sacks
2018 - 6.5 sacks
2019 - 11.5 sacks
2020 - 2 sacks
2021 - 18.5 sacks

He's had a real hard time putting together back-to-back seasons since 2013-14.

Anyhow, while it's far from his fault, hard to look at the Mack trade as anything but a failure for the Bears. They gave up two firsts and handed him $91 million over four years and didn't win a single playoff game.

Yup

[Dish]

Here's what would worry me about Quinn:

2016 - 4 sacks
2017 - 8.5 sacks
2018 - 6.5 sacks
2019 - 11.5 sacks
2020 - 2 sacks
2021 - 18.5 sacks

He's had a real hard time putting together back-to-back seasons since 2013-14.

Anyhow, while it's far from his fault, hard to look at the Mack trade as anything but a failure for the Bears. They gave up two firsts and handed him $91 million over four years and didn't win a single playoff game.

Yeah, it didn't work out, but I still don't mind that Pace made that move at the time.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Yeah, it didn't work out, but I still don't mind that Pace made that move at the time.

Yup.  It was a very un-Bears move that I liked.

[JWags85]

Anyhow, while it's far from his fault, hard to look at the Mack trade as anything but a failure for the Bears. They gave up two firsts and handed him $91 million over four years and didn't win a single playoff game.

Yet another infuriating footnote from the Pace/Nagy era.  The trade/contract was good.  Mack did everything he was advertised to, especially early on, but they just didn't have the comprehensive team for it to matter.

[Pakuni]

Yeah, it didn't work out, but I still don't mind that Pace made that move at the time.

You make a move like that when you think you're one star player away from contending.
Easy to say in hindsight, of course, but Pace obviously misjudged how close the Bears were to contending.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

You make a move like that when you think you're one star player away from contending.
Easy to say in hindsight, of course, but Pace obviously misjudged how close the Bears were to contending.

Pace misjudged a lot of things.....

[forgetful]

Yeah, it didn't work out, but I still don't mind that Pace made that move at the time.

My first thought was that this shows how much of a colossal failure the trade was. But after reading your posts, I agree that it was a risk worth taking and at the time a bold move.

Sometimes I forget that hindsight is 20/20...but doesn't mean a decision at the time was a bad one.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Not shocked on the Mack trade, this was going to be his last season in Chicago, Bears got something for him. They'll carry $24 mil in dead cap on Mack, but it'll actually create $6 million in cap space.

Loved the trade with Oakland when it happened, didn't pan out, but still think it was a shot worth taking.

Agree on all counts. With the Bears moving to a 4-3, Mack was a not a fit moving forward.

[Pakuni]

Agree on all counts. With the Bears moving to a 4-3, Mack was a not a fit moving forward.

He was DPOY in a 4-3 in Oakland.