So, when does USA split up into different countries?

[jesmu84]

https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/status/1469865185493983234?t=fjfzG8teGxuUqPL2mqrxFg&s=19

[mu_hilltopper]

IBTL.

I've said it before.  Within XX years, the probability the US will contain the original 50 states is zero percent.   Might take 50 years, might take 5.

California will secede and a GOP president will let them, no shots fired.

[GB Warrior]

I for one would love to see Joe Manchin's state and the southern bloc survive without coastal states subsidizing them.

[Uncle Rico]

I for one would love to see Joe Manchin's state and the southern bloc survive without coastal states subsidizing them.

They have no clue how things actually work

[Skatastrophy]

There are certain groups hoping for a civil war, but it's not going to happen. We're going to have to finish Reconstruction, though.

[MU82]

This should be fun.

[Heisenberg]

IBTL.

I've said it before.  Within XX years, the probability the US will contain the original 50 states is zero percent.   Might take 50 years, might take 5.

California will secede and a GOP president will let them, no shots fired.

Before this happens, CA will split into several states, as many as six.  Then some will go and some will stay.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias

The question is what happens when we start to split up?  Visas, borders (read: wall), and tariffs? Or do you think it merely means some legal definitions and traveling between these new countries will be no different than traveling between Wisconsin and Illinois?

My take, if we start to split up, we have no idea how ugly it will get.  So, I 100% disagree with your "no shots fired."  Maybe not bullets but definitely economic "bullets" and they can hurt just as much.

The precise purpose of splitting up is to punish the other side.  Re-read Newsome's tweet.  He just wants to "punish" Texas. 

And Texas is not taking it. Ted Cruz introduced a bill to establish an immigration port in Martha's Vineyard so all the "undocumented" can hang out on their streets.

https://www.mvtimes.com/2021/10/20/cruz-bill-seeks-immigration-port-marthas-vineyard/

Again, it is all about hurting the other side, not helping your side.  Such things get really ugly.

So, I hope it does not happen.  If/when it does, look out.

[MUBurrow]

There are certain groups hoping for a civil war, but it's not going to happen. We're going to have to finish Reconstruction, though.

Haha this post is awesome.

[reinko]

IBTL.

I've said it before.  Within XX years, the probability the US will contain the original 50 states is zero percent.   Might take 50 years, might take 5.

California will secede and a GOP president will let them, no shots fired.

This reads like a mad lib.

I've said it before, within xx amount of years Marquette will win back to back NCAA titles, might take 5 years, might take 50.

[Jockey]

Supreme Court precedent says it can't happen.

Oops..., never mind. Precedent is soooo yesterday.

Seriously, it ain't happening. Basically, just logistics and $$$$. Texas has the 3rd most defense contracts in the country. They would lose those. They would lose thousands of businesses. They would no longer receive gov't welfare. They would have to raise and pay for their own army for defense against all of those rapists coming in from Mexico. Then there is the security issues. Does anyone think the US would allow Texans into what is left of the US either to work or visit? We'd also probably go back to Middle East oil (as needed) and freeze out their one true revenue stream.

Ted Cruz is little more than a loud mouth fool. With an ugly wife and an assassin for a father.

[#UnleashSean]

Supreme Court precedent says it can't happen.

Oops..., never mind. Precedent is soooo yesterday.

Seriously, it ain't happening. Basically, just logistics and $$$$. Texas has the 3rd most defense contracts in the country. They would lose those. They would lose thousands of businesses. They would no longer receive gov't welfare. They would have to raise and pay for their own army for defense against all of those rapists coming in from Mexico. Then there is the security issues. Does anyone think the US would allow Texans into what is left of the US either to work or visit? We'd also probably go back to Middle East oil (as needed) and freeze out their one true revenue stream.

Ted Cruz is little more than a loud mouth fool. With an ugly wife and an assassin for a father.

I'm glad you stooped to middle school and made fun of someone for having an ugly wife. Very mature. Great example.

[Jockey]

I'm glad you stooped to middle school and made fun of someone for having an ugly wife. Very mature. Great example.

You are not bright enough to respond. It was your hero, trump, who said those things about Cruz' wife and father.

[dgies9156]

You people have no sense of history or what our country is about.

You think today is the worst we've ever seen? Not even close! In the 1960s, we engaged in an unpopular war, had Boomers screaming about distrust of anyone over 30, had massive (and I mean massive) riots in almost every major city in the United States. Not to mention the fact that historically oppressed groups, like gays and lesbians, women, etc., began protesting. Many thought the country was falling apart.

In the 1930s, a series of bad economic decisions and an overheated economy led to one of the worst economic times this nation had ever seen. Our parents/grandparents or great grandparents' lives were forever changed by those times. At times, the situation was so bad many thought the republic we have would fall apart.

In the early 1970s, we had a President who was a crook and openly flaunted the constitution.

Between our founding and at least the mid-1960s, we systematically oppressed an entire race. Our country went to war over the right to do so -- and almost did again in the 1960s -- but the inherent superiority of our system over anything else in the world held firm, even with the demagogues, dividers and political grandstanders.

Gang, the reality is we always have challenges. We always have differences that divide us. There is no shortage of aggrieved parties. We have a system to address it, far better than anyplace else in the world. We'll get through it, like we did the 1860s, 1930s, 1960s and 1970s.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Gang, the reality is we always have challenges. We always have differences that divide us. There is no shortage of aggrieved parties. We have a system to address it, far better than anyplace else in the world. We'll get through it, like we did the 1860s, 1930s, 1960s and 1970s.

I agree and everyone who believes this better start standing up for the system because it's under assault.

[Heisenberg]

Supreme Court precedent says it can't happen.

Oops..., never mind. Precedent is soooo yesterday.

Seriously, it ain't happening. Basically, just logistics and $$$$. Texas has the 3rd most defense contracts in the country. They would lose those. They would lose thousands of businesses. They would no longer receive gov't welfare. They would have to raise and pay for their own army for defense against all of those rapists coming in from Mexico. Then there is the security issues. Does anyone think the US would allow Texans into what is left of the US either to work or visit? We'd also probably go back to Middle East oil (as needed) and freeze out their one true revenue stream.

Ted Cruz is little more than a loud mouth fool. With an ugly wife and an assassin for a father.

Above I noted that splitting up was about punishing the other side, not making your life better.

... and then Jockey weighted it to perfectly illustrate what is wrong with this country.

He is a living/breathing cautionary tale of what is wrong today.

[reinko]

I'm glad you stooped to middle school and made fun of someone for having an ugly wife. Very mature. Great example.

🤡 🤡 🤡

[Heisenberg]

You people have no sense of history or what our country is about.

You think today is the worst we've ever seen? Not even close! In the 1960s, we engaged in an unpopular war, had Boomers screaming about distrust of anyone over 30, had massive (and I mean massive) riots in almost every major city in the United States. Not to mention the fact that historically oppressed groups, like gays and lesbians, women, etc., began protesting. Many thought the country was falling apart.

In the 1930s, a series of bad economic decisions and an overheated economy led to one of the worst economic times this nation had ever seen. Our parents/grandparents or great grandparents' lives were forever changed by those times. At times, the situation was so bad many thought the republic we have would fall apart.

In the early 1970s, we had a President who was a crook and openly flaunted the constitution.

Between our founding and at least the mid-1960s, we systematically oppressed an entire race. Our country went to war over the right to do so -- and almost did again in the 1960s -- but the inherent superiority of our system over anything else in the world held firm, even with the demagogues, dividers and political grandstanders.

Gang, the reality is we always have challenges. We always have differences that divide us. There is no shortage of aggrieved parties. We have a system to address it, far better than anyplace else in the world. We'll get through it, like we did the 1860s, 1930s, 1960s and 1970s.

Man, you are such a boomer, every example is after the day you were born.

Go back and look at the 1840s/1850s, a lot of similarities.  This does not mean we end up splitting up as we did in the 1860s, but the parallels are uncomfortably close.

[4everwarriors]

This country's greatest threat is the Democratic Party, aina?

[reinko]

This country's greatest threat is the Democratic Party, aina?

Not often a comment is sad, pathetic and funny at the same time because of a deep down need for acknowledgment and knowing your small little life isn't giving you enough.  Good luck

[tower912]

You're adorable

[Billy Hoyle]

https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/status/1469865185493983234?t=fjfzG8teGxuUqPL2mqrxFg&s=19

And yet Newsom is ok with open air drug markets and rampant theft ih his former city. Maybe he should focus on his own state's issues which have resulted in a loss of population under his watch.

[jesmu84]

And yet Newsom is ok with open air drug markets and rampant theft ih his former city. Maybe he should focus on his own state's issues which have resulted in a loss of population under his watch.

Good. We should legalize, tax and regulate drugs like anything else.

As for this "increase in crime...." - https://youtu.be/de3tBrCg8sI

[4everwarriors]

Plus, give non-citizens the right to vote, hey?

#bullchit

[Billy Hoyle]

Good. We should legalize, tax and regulate drugs like anything else.

As for this "increase in crime...." - https://youtu.be/de3tBrCg8sI

Newsom was mayor of SF, not LA. And some clown on YouTube, really? You're better than that.

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-san-francisco-nearly-most-crime-ridden-city-us

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

Statewide: https://capitolweekly.net/amid-pandemic-california-murder-rate-shows-shocking-rise/

Preliminary numbers from California's biggest cities suggest that 2020's stunning 30-percent increase in the statewide murder rate – the largest since 1960 – has continued to rise this year, and crime experts have as many questions as answers.

"We're seeing a continued trend" in rising murder rates throughout 2021, said Magnus Lofstrom, a policy director and senior fellow at the nonpartisan Public Policy Institute of California. "We're seeing increases in homicide year over year again."

Official numbers for 2021, a year with a few weeks remaining, are months away. (Thoroughly analyzed crime data takes time.) But, thanks to the record-keeping reliability of Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland and San Diego, researchers have an almost real-time count that shows 2021 is going to be another unsettling year.

[jesmu84]

Newsom was mayor of SF, not LA. And some clown on YouTube, really? You're better than that.

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-san-francisco-nearly-most-crime-ridden-city-us

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

Statewide: https://capitolweekly.net/amid-pandemic-california-murder-rate-shows-shocking-rise/

Preliminary numbers from California's biggest cities suggest that 2020's stunning 30-percent increase in the statewide murder rate – the largest since 1960 – has continued to rise this year, and crime experts have as many questions as answers.

"We're seeing a continued trend" in rising murder rates throughout 2021, said Magnus Lofstrom, a policy director and senior fellow at the nonpartisan Public Policy Institute of California. "We're seeing increases in homicide year over year again."

Official numbers for 2021, a year with a few weeks remaining, are months away. (Thoroughly analyzed crime data takes time.) But, thanks to the record-keeping reliability of Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland and San Diego, researchers have an almost real-time count that shows 2021 is going to be another unsettling year.

Homicide = theft? Weird

No surprise you wouldn't watch the video.