collapse

* Recent Posts

Please Register - It's FREE!

The absolute only thing required for this FREE registration is a valid e-mail address.  We keep all your information confidential and will NEVER give or sell it to anyone else.
Login to get rid of this box (and ads) , or register NOW!


Author Topic: Omicron variant  (Read 30715 times)

Jockey

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 2044
  • “We want to get rid of the ballots"
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #225 on: December 30, 2021, 04:32:47 PM »
Sure glad the CDC caved to big business interests on time off

You may be correct, but real life is funny. Just look at the post before yours. There are infected people out and about, and going to work and school every day. Many don't even know they are infected. We just know the numbers are astronomical.

Frenns Liquor Depot

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 3195
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #226 on: December 30, 2021, 06:31:29 PM »
I’ll put this in the not great news column.  We’re in for a swift hit with this…I hope the next few weeks don’t break the hospital or staff with the volume of visits and the amount of staff that will be out for a period of time. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/30/world/europe/uk-covid-omicron-london-england.html

pacearrow02

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 126
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #227 on: December 30, 2021, 08:01:15 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1476710278096166917

I remember the good ol days when saying something like this would get you suspended from Twitter and called a quack.  Biden admitting this week that covid is now a state issue and very little the federal gov’t can do to stop this next wave.  CDC cutting quarantine times in half this week cause, science???

Everyone is starting to come around slowly but surely.


pacearrow02

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 126
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #228 on: December 30, 2021, 08:02:44 PM »
Wasn’t too long ago some knuckleheads on here were pointing to NYC as the reason to support mask mandates and vaccine passports cause look how different the infection rates where in NYC compared to rest of the state of NY.  How’s that going?

pacearrow02

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 126
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #229 on: December 30, 2021, 08:17:13 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/Hold2LLC/status/1476588087778107392

Boy, anyone who argued there was a seasonality component to Covid.  Those folks might be onto something.

rocket surgeon

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 3689
  • NA of course
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #230 on: December 30, 2021, 09:27:49 PM »
Wasn’t too long ago some knuckleheads on here were pointing to NYC as the reason to support mask mandates and vaccine passports cause look how different the infection rates where in NYC compared to rest of the state of NY.  How’s that going?

  the omicron variant has killed between 10-20...WORLWIDE.  it infects the upper respiratory as opposed to deep lung tissue the original bug and the delta variant.  omicron is about as close as you can get to an attenuated viral particle used to make vaccines as you can get.  thus, it is essentially a natural herd immunity producer.  the covid virus is struggling to remain relevant and it is doing that by becoming weaker, but more infective. 

all the continued hysteria is overblown.  many do not want this to end for way too many reasons.  pfizer, moderna and J & J should be the fat ladys warming up, but they need to milk every last dollar out of us as they can.   
don't...don't don't don't don't

reinko

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 2696
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #231 on: December 30, 2021, 09:49:40 PM »
  the omicron variant has killed between 10-20...WORLWIDE.  it infects the upper respiratory as opposed to deep lung tissue the original bug and the delta variant.  omicron is about as close as you can get to an attenuated viral particle used to make vaccines as you can get.  thus, it is essentially a natural herd immunity producer.  the covid virus is struggling to remain relevant and it is doing that by becoming weaker, but more infective. 

all the continued hysteria is overblown.  many do not want this to end for way too many reasons.  pfizer, moderna and J & J should be the fat ladys warming up, but they need to milk every last dollar out of us as they can.

Just gonna quote because methinks omicron may not be so “mild” once it hits the swaths of folks and parts of the country who thinks Bill Gates is implanting microchips into them via vaccine.

Skatastrophy

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 5556
  • ✅ Verified Member
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #232 on: December 30, 2021, 10:02:19 PM »
Wasn’t too long ago some knuckleheads on here were pointing to NYC as the reason to support mask mandates and vaccine passports cause look how different the infection rates where in NYC compared to rest of the state of NY.  How’s that going?

You're against masks and vaccines now?

pacearrow02

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 126
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #233 on: December 30, 2021, 10:17:01 PM »
You're against masks and vaccines now?

Against mandating of both. 

pbiflyer

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1750
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #234 on: December 30, 2021, 10:56:33 PM »
We should probably close this sub board then, eh? It’s over……just like this past summer.

pbiflyer

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1750
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #235 on: December 30, 2021, 10:58:09 PM »
  the omicron variant has killed between 10-20...WORLWIDE.  it infects the upper respiratory as opposed to deep lung tissue the original bug and the delta variant.  omicron is about as close as you can get to an attenuated viral particle used to make vaccines as you can get.  thus, it is essentially a natural herd immunity producer.  the covid virus is struggling to remain relevant and it is doing that by becoming weaker, but more infective. 

all the continued hysteria is overblown.  many do not want this to end for way too many reasons.  pfizer, moderna and J & J should be the fat ladys warming up, but they need to milk every last dollar out of us as they can.

So the thousands dying of Covid each day are imaginary? Overblown? Or maybe Covid really is still killing people.

ZiggysFryBoy

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 5115
  • MEDITERRANEAN TACOS!
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #236 on: December 30, 2021, 11:55:01 PM »
So the thousands dying of Covid each day are imaginary? Overblown? Or maybe Covid really is still killing people.


Or they have delta.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 11964
  • “Good lord, you are an idiot.” - real chili 83
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #237 on: December 31, 2021, 07:01:41 AM »
It really is too early to tell how deadly omicron is.  Deaths usually peak about four to six weeks after a spike, and even in South Africa four weeks haven't passed.  Signs are very encouraging though.
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” - Clarence Darrow

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 11964
  • “Good lord, you are an idiot.” - real chili 83
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #238 on: December 31, 2021, 07:03:10 AM »
This is crazy.  MA has been consistently tracking COVID in their wastewater the entire pandemic.  It is off the charts higher than at any point in the last two years. 

https://www.mwra.com/biobot/MWRAData20211229-graphs.pdf


So a bunch of people are carrying this around without realizing it.  Or even if they have mild symptoms, are writing it off as a cold.  If we can get through this without significant hospitalizations and deaths, that might not be a bad thing.
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” - Clarence Darrow

pacearrow02

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 126
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #239 on: December 31, 2021, 07:23:31 AM »

So a bunch of people are carrying this around without realizing it.  Or even if they have mild symptoms, are writing it off as a cold.  If we can get through this without significant hospitalizations and deaths, that might not be a bad thing.

hahahahahahaha!!!!!  Natural immunity for the win....the talking points are shifting folks.

pacearrow02

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 126
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #240 on: December 31, 2021, 07:28:53 AM »
"We haven't quite had an illness this infectious and this possible to cause serious illness," explained Hayes, adding that this "does look more like the flu. Flu, of course, can still be dangerous, kills tens of thousands of Americans every year, but we don't orient our lives around the flu. That's closer to the level of risk that 200 million Americans, or less than that, are now dealing with.

The Hayes mentioned above is of course MSNBC "STAR" Chris Hayes comparing Covid to the flu.  Hell has frozen over.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 11964
  • “Good lord, you are an idiot.” - real chili 83
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #241 on: December 31, 2021, 07:33:26 AM »
hahahahahahaha!!!!!  Natural immunity for the win....the talking points are shifting folks.


Uh no.  We have wanted to get to the point of Covid being an endemic from the beginning.  A milder but widespread version is exactly what an endemic looks like.  No shifting at all.
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” - Clarence Darrow

pacearrow02

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 126
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #242 on: December 31, 2021, 07:39:50 AM »

Uh no.  We have wanted to get to the point of Covid being an endemic from the beginning.  A milder but widespread version is exactly what an endemic looks like.  No shifting at all.

We have all wanted that Fluffy.  It’s just now though that you’re strangely ok with record case counts and in some areas of the county record hospitalizations. 

pacearrow02

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 126
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #243 on: December 31, 2021, 07:52:40 AM »

Uh no.  We have wanted to get to the point of Covid being an endemic from the beginning.  A milder but widespread version is exactly what an endemic looks like.  No shifting at all.

Widespread version?  CDC said this week the current record case counts are made up of only about 25% Omicron.  Per the experts, it is still largely Delta spreading like wildfire.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 11964
  • “Good lord, you are an idiot.” - real chili 83
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #244 on: December 31, 2021, 07:54:17 AM »
We have all wanted that Fluffy.  It’s just now though that you’re strangely ok with record case counts and in some areas of the county record hospitalizations. 


How am I strangely OK with it?  This is what I said:  "If we can get through this without significant hospitalizations and deaths, that might not be a bad thing."

Note the use of "if" and "might."

Might do you well to actually learn English.
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” - Clarence Darrow

forgetful

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 4775
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #245 on: December 31, 2021, 09:43:47 AM »
Widespread version?  CDC said this week the current record case counts are made up of only about 25% Omicron.  Per the experts, it is still largely Delta spreading like wildfire.

Depends where you look. In many areas, Omicron is now making up 90+% of cases.

And the danger is, like vaccines and previous infection do not help much against Omicron. An Omicron infection is unlikely to provide much protection against strains like Delta.

Let's hope it at least puts a dent in the degree of severity of subsequent infections, so maybe the idiots who refuse to get vaccinated, and would rather see people die and the economy languish, can finally quit holding the rest of us hostage.

MUBurrow

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1411
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #246 on: December 31, 2021, 09:47:08 AM »
An Omicron infection is unlikely to provide much protection against strains like Delta.


Bummer.  I knew that scientists didn't think previous alpha or delta infections would be a huge protection against infection from omicron due to the additional spike proteins, but I hadn't seen much on the reverse.  :-\

Hards Alumni

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 6661
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #247 on: December 31, 2021, 10:33:43 AM »


Or they have delta.

Actually correct.  As we know, deaths lag case numbers by days/weeks.  Omicron was only detected this month.  It hasn't had time to wind up, spread, and truly take over until the last week or so when the cases exploded.  The people who are dying of Omicron now are just starting, and HOPEFULLY it won't be as many and Omicron can overtake Delta.

I honestly agree with some of the underboarders here.  I feel awful for our healthcare workers, and I still want everyone to get vaccinated, but if this blows through the US the way it has blown through South Africa we may get some sort of normalcy sooner rather than later.

This isn't me 'coming around' to your 'side' either before you try to say that, you psychos.   ;)  I don't have a side.

pacearrow02

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 126
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #248 on: December 31, 2021, 11:24:09 AM »
Depends where you look. In many areas, Omicron is now making up 90+% of cases.

And the danger is, like vaccines and previous infection do not help much against Omicron. An Omicron infection is unlikely to provide much protection against strains like Delta.

Let's hope it at least puts a dent in the degree of severity of subsequent infections, so maybe the idiots who refuse to get vaccinated, and would rather see people die and the economy languish, can finally quit holding the rest of us hostage.

💯!!

What are your thoughts on Fauci saying we’re seeing a lot of kids hospitalized with Covid not from Covid.  Obviously that is also the case with adults as well, Infirnkne was surprised to hear him echo the conspiracy theorists out there.

jesmu84

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 6084
Re: Omicron variant
« Reply #249 on: December 31, 2021, 11:53:50 AM »
💯!!

What are your thoughts on Fauci saying we’re seeing a lot of kids hospitalized with Covid not from Covid.  Obviously that is also the case with adults as well, Infirnkne was surprised to hear him echo the conspiracy theorists out there.

What are your thoughts on folks saying we're severely undercounting deaths from covid?