Omicron variant

[Jockey]

Sure glad the CDC caved to big business interests on time off

You may be correct, but real life is funny. Just look at the post before yours. There are infected people out and about, and going to work and school every day. Many don't even know they are infected. We just know the numbers are astronomical.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I'll put this in the not great news column.  We're in for a swift hit with this...I hope the next few weeks don't break the hospital or staff with the volume of visits and the amount of staff that will be out for a period of time. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/30/world/europe/uk-covid-omicron-london-england.html

[pacearrow02]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1476710278096166917

I remember the good ol days when saying something like this would get you suspended from Twitter and called a quack.  Biden admitting this week that covid is now a state issue and very little the federal gov't can do to stop this next wave.  CDC cutting quarantine times in half this week cause, science???

Everyone is starting to come around slowly but surely.

[pacearrow02]

Wasn't too long ago some knuckleheads on here were pointing to NYC as the reason to support mask mandates and vaccine passports cause look how different the infection rates where in NYC compared to rest of the state of NY.  How's that going?

[pacearrow02]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Hold2LLC/status/1476588087778107392

Boy, anyone who argued there was a seasonality component to Covid.  Those folks might be onto something.

[rocket surgeon]

Wasn't too long ago some knuckleheads on here were pointing to NYC as the reason to support mask mandates and vaccine passports cause look how different the infection rates where in NYC compared to rest of the state of NY.  How's that going?

  the omicron variant has killed between 10-20...WORLWIDE.  it infects the upper respiratory as opposed to deep lung tissue the original bug and the delta variant.  omicron is about as close as you can get to an attenuated viral particle used to make vaccines as you can get.  thus, it is essentially a natural herd immunity producer.  the covid virus is struggling to remain relevant and it is doing that by becoming weaker, but more infective. 

all the continued hysteria is overblown.  many do not want this to end for way too many reasons.  pfizer, moderna and J & J should be the fat ladys warming up, but they need to milk every last dollar out of us as they can.   

[reinko]

  the omicron variant has killed between 10-20...WORLWIDE.  it infects the upper respiratory as opposed to deep lung tissue the original bug and the delta variant.  omicron is about as close as you can get to an attenuated viral particle used to make vaccines as you can get.  thus, it is essentially a natural herd immunity producer.  the covid virus is struggling to remain relevant and it is doing that by becoming weaker, but more infective. 

all the continued hysteria is overblown.  many do not want this to end for way too many reasons.  pfizer, moderna and J & J should be the fat ladys warming up, but they need to milk every last dollar out of us as they can.

Just gonna quote because methinks omicron may not be so "mild" once it hits the swaths of folks and parts of the country who thinks Bill Gates is implanting microchips into them via vaccine.

[Skatastrophy]

Wasn't too long ago some knuckleheads on here were pointing to NYC as the reason to support mask mandates and vaccine passports cause look how different the infection rates where in NYC compared to rest of the state of NY.  How's that going?

You're against masks and vaccines now?

[pacearrow02]

You're against masks and vaccines now?

Against mandating of both. 

[pbiflyer]

We should probably close this sub board then, eh? It's over......just like this past summer.

[pbiflyer]

  the omicron variant has killed between 10-20...WORLWIDE.  it infects the upper respiratory as opposed to deep lung tissue the original bug and the delta variant.  omicron is about as close as you can get to an attenuated viral particle used to make vaccines as you can get.  thus, it is essentially a natural herd immunity producer.  the covid virus is struggling to remain relevant and it is doing that by becoming weaker, but more infective. 

all the continued hysteria is overblown.  many do not want this to end for way too many reasons.  pfizer, moderna and J & J should be the fat ladys warming up, but they need to milk every last dollar out of us as they can.

So the thousands dying of Covid each day are imaginary? Overblown? Or maybe Covid really is still killing people.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

So the thousands dying of Covid each day are imaginary? Overblown? Or maybe Covid really is still killing people.

Or they have delta.

[The Sultan]

It really is too early to tell how deadly omicron is.  Deaths usually peak about four to six weeks after a spike, and even in South Africa four weeks haven't passed.  Signs are very encouraging though.

[The Sultan]

This is crazy.  MA has been consistently tracking COVID in their wastewater the entire pandemic.  It is off the charts higher than at any point in the last two years. 

https://www.mwra.com/biobot/MWRAData20211229-graphs.pdf

So a bunch of people are carrying this around without realizing it.  Or even if they have mild symptoms, are writing it off as a cold.  If we can get through this without significant hospitalizations and deaths, that might not be a bad thing.

[pacearrow02]

So a bunch of people are carrying this around without realizing it.  Or even if they have mild symptoms, are writing it off as a cold.  If we can get through this without significant hospitalizations and deaths, that might not be a bad thing.

hahahahahahaha!!!!!  Natural immunity for the win....the talking points are shifting folks.

[pacearrow02]

"We haven't quite had an illness this infectious and this possible to cause serious illness," explained Hayes, adding that this "does look more like the flu. Flu, of course, can still be dangerous, kills tens of thousands of Americans every year, but we don't orient our lives around the flu. That's closer to the level of risk that 200 million Americans, or less than that, are now dealing with.

The Hayes mentioned above is of course MSNBC "STAR" Chris Hayes comparing Covid to the flu.  Hell has frozen over.

[The Sultan]

hahahahahahaha!!!!!  Natural immunity for the win....the talking points are shifting folks.

Uh no.  We have wanted to get to the point of Covid being an endemic from the beginning.  A milder but widespread version is exactly what an endemic looks like.  No shifting at all.

[pacearrow02]

Uh no.  We have wanted to get to the point of Covid being an endemic from the beginning.  A milder but widespread version is exactly what an endemic looks like.  No shifting at all.

We have all wanted that Fluffy.  It's just now though that you're strangely ok with record case counts and in some areas of the county record hospitalizations. 

[pacearrow02]

Uh no.  We have wanted to get to the point of Covid being an endemic from the beginning.  A milder but widespread version is exactly what an endemic looks like.  No shifting at all.

Widespread version?  CDC said this week the current record case counts are made up of only about 25% Omicron.  Per the experts, it is still largely Delta spreading like wildfire.

[The Sultan]

We have all wanted that Fluffy.  It's just now though that you're strangely ok with record case counts and in some areas of the county record hospitalizations. 

How am I strangely OK with it?  This is what I said:  "If we can get through this without significant hospitalizations and deaths, that might not be a bad thing."

Note the use of "if" and "might."

Might do you well to actually learn English.

[forgetful]

Widespread version?  CDC said this week the current record case counts are made up of only about 25% Omicron.  Per the experts, it is still largely Delta spreading like wildfire.

Depends where you look. In many areas, Omicron is now making up 90+% of cases.

And the danger is, like vaccines and previous infection do not help much against Omicron. An Omicron infection is unlikely to provide much protection against strains like Delta.

Let's hope it at least puts a dent in the degree of severity of subsequent infections, so maybe the idiots who refuse to get vaccinated, and would rather see people die and the economy languish, can finally quit holding the rest of us hostage.

[MUBurrow]

An Omicron infection is unlikely to provide much protection against strains like Delta.

Bummer.  I knew that scientists didn't think previous alpha or delta infections would be a huge protection against infection from omicron due to the additional spike proteins, but I hadn't seen much on the reverse. 

[Hards Alumni]

Or they have delta.

Actually correct.  As we know, deaths lag case numbers by days/weeks.  Omicron was only detected this month.  It hasn't had time to wind up, spread, and truly take over until the last week or so when the cases exploded.  The people who are dying of Omicron now are just starting, and HOPEFULLY it won't be as many and Omicron can overtake Delta.

I honestly agree with some of the underboarders here.  I feel awful for our healthcare workers, and I still want everyone to get vaccinated, but if this blows through the US the way it has blown through South Africa we may get some sort of normalcy sooner rather than later.

This isn't me 'coming around' to your 'side' either before you try to say that, you psychos.     I don't have a side.

[pacearrow02]

Depends where you look. In many areas, Omicron is now making up 90+% of cases.

And the danger is, like vaccines and previous infection do not help much against Omicron. An Omicron infection is unlikely to provide much protection against strains like Delta.

Let's hope it at least puts a dent in the degree of severity of subsequent infections, so maybe the idiots who refuse to get vaccinated, and would rather see people die and the economy languish, can finally quit holding the rest of us hostage.

💯!!

What are your thoughts on Fauci saying we're seeing a lot of kids hospitalized with Covid not from Covid.  Obviously that is also the case with adults as well, Infirnkne was surprised to hear him echo the conspiracy theorists out there.

[jesmu84]

💯!!

What are your thoughts on Fauci saying we're seeing a lot of kids hospitalized with Covid not from Covid.  Obviously that is also the case with adults as well, Infirnkne was surprised to hear him echo the conspiracy theorists out there.

What are your thoughts on folks saying we're severely undercounting deaths from covid?