Bizarre story with Alec Baldwin

[Hards Alumni]

So it's been verified it was s real pistol??  How could a real gun be on the set?

Real guns are used all the time.  Usually there is a qualified 'gun guy' who is in charge of everything firearm related.

[StillAWarrior]

This.  It seems like if you don't have any live rounds anywhere on set and you make sure the guns are emptied before bringing them on set, this would never happen.  Again, I don't know the movie business, but it seems this could be prevented by very modest means and a simplest procedures.  It has to be either criminal neglect or intentional, one would think.

As others have said, I've read in a number of places that "live" rounds on a movie set is what most would think of as blanks. They make a realistic bang and can have projectiles.

I also read that proper protocol is that real ammunition is absolutely never, ever supposed to be on a movie set. Ever. So, exactly as you're suggesting. Sometimes they want real-looking bullets that will be seen, but those aren't live and don't have powder (and I read they make them so they rattle when you shake them to prevent confusion).

Based on what I've read, there are many rules and regulations to prevent this sort of tragedy from occurring (including, not insignificantly, never pointing the gun at anyone). This likely isn't the result of not enough rules. This is the result of not following the rules.

[warriorchick]

An actor famously died on set by placing a gun loaded with a live (blank) round to his head and pulling the trigger not realizing that was a lethal decision.

I remember this. Jon-Erik Hexum in the mid-eighties.  He was on the set of his TV show and responded to a continued delay in filming by jokingly holding a prop gun to his temple and pulling the trigger.  The wadding in the gun expelled and killed him.

[real chili 83]

I heard it was an elephant gun.

[Lennys Tap]

This likely isn't the result of not enough rules. This is the result of not following the rules.

True here and in the vast majority of all tragic accidents.

[MuggsyB]

True here and in the vast majority of all tragic accidents.

True but many of the actors on the set are saying the environment was an utter s-show. 

[forgetful]

True but many of the actors on the set are saying the environment was an utter s-show.

Apparently cutting corners and not properly staffing the prop/armory.

So a person died because people tried to save a few bucks. Meanwhile I'm sure several actors were being paid millions. Them cutting their salary by a small fraction would mean a life would have been saved.

So bottom line, it comes down to greed.

[Lennys Tap]

Anyone see the interview with George S.? I was initially sympathetic to Baldwin. No more. Narcissistic, lying POS.

[MuggsyB]

Anyone see the interview with George S.? I was initially sympathetic to Baldwin. No more. Narcissistic, lying POS.

I didn't see it but heard that he said  he thought this woman fainted and he didn't realize she was shot until 45 mins later??  How on earth Is that plausible?  I guess I  thought I tomahawk dunked on Kur Kuath but didn't realize I couldn't have until 45 mins later?

[wadesworld]

I didn't see it but heard that he said  he thought this woman fainted and he didn't realize she was shot until 45 mins later??  How on earth Is that plausible?  I guess I  thought I tomahawk dunked on Kur Kuath but didn't realize I couldn't have until 45 mins later?

You thought you were Ners. Happens to us all at some point.

[JWags85]

Baldwin for all his wealth and connections has some seemingly brain dead lawyers

[4everwarriors]

Da devil maid 'im due it, aina?

[Goose]

I watched the entire interview and could not believe what I was hearing. Strange interview and I struggled believing anything that he said.

[real chili 83]

Anyone see the interview with George S.? I was initially sympathetic to Baldwin. No more. Narcissistic, lying POS.

Anyone surprised by that?  You nailed it. 

[MU82]

Anyone see the interview with George S.? I was initially sympathetic to Baldwin. No more. Narcissistic, lying POS.

Yeah ... he looked like a dirtbag. And probably is one.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Yeah ... he looked like a dirtbag. And probably is one.

He has quite a track record of abuse, assault and general dickness, but he played Trump on SNL (poorly) so he gets a pass.

[mu_hilltopper]

Personally .. I had more sympathy for Baldwin after watching the interview.

[Hards Alumni]

He has quite a track record of abuse, assault and general dickness, but he played Trump on SNL (poorly) so he gets a pass.

I'm not sure his tenure as DJT on SNL buys him as much love as you think.

He's always been a huge douche nozzle.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I'm not sure his tenure as DJT on SNL buys him as much love as you think.

He's always been a huge douche nozzle.

Last good thing he did was Hunt for Red October.

[Boozemon Barro]

Last good thing he did was Hunt for Red October.

He's great on 30 Rock.

[The Sultan]

Last good thing he did was Hunt for Red October.

Much better in that role than Harrison Ford was.

[MuggsyB]

Last good thing he did was Hunt for Red October.

He's a decent actor.  I thought he was fabulous in Team America. 

[JWags85]

Last good thing he did was Hunt for Red October.

He was good playing himself in Glengarry Glen Ross

[ZiggysFryBoy]

He was good playing himself in Glengarry Glen Ross

Ha!  But that was pre Red October, no?

[JWags85]

Ha!  But that was pre Red October, no?

I wanna say it was a year or 2 after? I think HFRO was 1990 and GGR was 91/92