What's the word on Garcia?

[pbiflyer]

TAMU

I think Garcia is a nice player and wish he was returning. That said, I was not a fan of his style of play. No doubt the kid can play, but I am not expecting to become a college AA or NBA star down the road. Have to admit, I have been wrong on a lot of players and he may prove me wrong.

Somewhere in the internet universe is me proclaiming that both Tre Young and Ja Morant will be huge NBA busts.
Still shocked no NBA team has offered me a scouting job.

[Herman Cain]

The Garcia situation reminds me of something that happened many years ago with the Badgers. In the early 80s the Badgers had a very strong recruiting class led by a guy named Brad Sellers as well as Corey Blackwell and Scott Roth all three who eventually went to play in the NBA . For those to young to remember, Sellers was one of the first super tall , skinny and talented big man. He was 7 feet and barely 200 pounds. Unfortunately for the Badgers they had a Bad Coach , who just like our mediocre coach,  was named Steve. So the Badgers went 6-21 and 8-20 in Sellers first two years. Despite having a team with 3 future NBA players. Sellers played well and put up numbers those two years but ended up transferred to Ohio State. When he got to Ohio State, the head coach was Eldon Miller, who was essentially the Mike Deane of Ohio State coaches. Sellers was paired with Dennis Hopson who was Ohio States all time leading scorer , All American etc. Sellers was a lottery pick (9th) and Hopson was picked 3rd. Despite all this talent, the lousy of coaching of Miller resulted in a 3rd and 7th place finish in the Big Ten.

I am pointing this out because I believe in the top down approach to winning. Have to start with a good coach. Coach lays down the philosophies and foundation of what makes a winning team.   It is really easy to get caught up in the individual performances but it is a team sport( The Brad Sellers saga) and the bottom line is winning.

On the whole I believe our coaching staff this year is substantially improved and our composite roster is more than strong enough to compete for that 3rd spot in the Big East after Nova and U Conn. 

[Shooter McGavin]

Hope you are right on this years team Herm.  Agreed that coaching is the major advantage over the long run in team sports.  Great players and bad coaching gets you mediocrity. 

[The Sultan]

Herman, good story.  Only inaccuracy is that Bill Cofield was the head coach that recruited those three to Wisconsin and coached them their first year.  Yoder came in their second year, only to be just as terrible.  That coaching search was a fiasco because their first choice was the head coach of UW-Eau Claire - a guy named Ken Anderson.  The AD at the time, Elroy Hirsch, skipped his introductory press conference to go on a Caribbean cruise, and his assistant kept calling him the wrong name.  So Anderson went back to Eau Claire, and they ended up with Yoder.

BTW, one of Cofield's proteges, who Cofield brought to Wisconsin, was none other than....Bo Ryan.

[The Lens]

Herman, good story.  Only inaccuracy is that Bill Cofield was the head coach that recruited those three to Wisconsin and coached them their first year.  Yoder came in their second year, only to be just as terrible.  That coaching search was a fiasco because their first choice was the head coach of UW-Eau Claire - a guy named Ken Anderson.  The AD at the time, Elroy Hirsch, skipped his introductory press conference to go on a Caribbean cruise, and his assistant kept calling him the wrong name.  So Anderson went back to Eau Claire, and they ended up with Yoder.

BTW, one of Cofield's proteges, who Cofield brought to Wisconsin, was none other than....Bo Ryan.

Legend has it that Cofield believed in NIL long before anyone else. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

BTW, one of Cofield's proteges, who Cofield brought to Wisconsin, was none other than....Bo Ryan.

And where St. Bo earned himself a  NCAA Elba banishment to Platteville that eventually got Cofield fired.

[Silent Verbal]

There are two things Wisconsin-born sports fans who grew up in the 90s and beyond can't comprehend:  The Packers and Badgers sucking on a very consistent basis.

[The Sultan]

And where St. Bo earned himself a  NCAA Elba banishment to Platteville that eventually got Cofield fired.

Ryan was an assistant under Yoder for a couple seasons though.

[HutchwasClutch]

There are two things Wisconsin-born sports fans who grew up in the 90s and beyond can't comprehend:  The Packers and Badgers sucking on a very consistent basis.

Yep.  Hard to believe a good segment of adult population in WI can only remember a future first ballot HOF at QB for the Packers. 

I remember a late 80's chant at the new Bradley Center "Bad-ger Foot-ball".  😆

[HutchwasClutch]

Ryan was an assistant under Yoder for a couple seasons though.

Wasn't he gone to Platteville before Yoder arrived?

NM. He was on Yoder's bench two seasons

[Dr. Blackheart]

Ryan was an assistant under Yoder for a couple seasons though.

Bo paid players. Squirmy. Fact

[Uncle Rico]

Bo paid players. Squirmy. Fact

FWIW, when he was at Milwaukee, he'd take his players golfing and open the charge card and let them use it to buy stuff from the pro shop along with paying for the golf and lunch.  For me, this is a shrug your shoulders thing.  It did bring me to a smile when Bagder fans would rant and rave about St. Bo, though.  I don't have a problem with him doing what I described but the idea he was above board is laughable

[Viper]

FWIW, when he was at Milwaukee, he'd take his players golfing and open the charge card and let them use it to buy stuff from the pro shop along with paying for the golf and lunch.  For me, this is a shrug your shoulders thing.  It did bring me to a smile when Bagder fans would rant and rave about St. Bo, though.  I don't have a problem with him doing what I described but the idea he was above board is laughable

better dead, than RED...but I'd take Bo. Yup.

[Dr. Blackheart]

FWIW, when he was at Milwaukee, he'd take his players golfing and open the charge card and let them use it to buy stuff from the pro shop along with paying for the golf and lunch.  For me, this is a shrug your shoulders thing.  It did bring me to a smile when Bagder fans would rant and rave about St. Bo, though.  I don't have a problem with him doing what I described but the idea he was above board is laughable

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1985-07-22-8502170750-story,amp.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1986-01-22-8601060733-story,amp.html

[The Sultan]

Bo paid players. Squirmy. Fact

Not debating that in the least. Ryan's move to Platteville happened years after Cofield was fired. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

Not debating that in the least. Ryan's move to Platteville happened years after Cofield was fired.

Cofield's last season was 1981-82.   Bo's first year in exile in Platteville was 84-85. Bo set up the loan under Cofield, and under Yoder they thought the idea of transferring rather than reporting the loan was a good idea (double squirmy).

So, Bo helped bring down two coaches (who knows how much Finley was paid). Yoder was on the chopping block with that move per the articles from that time but he got off with a reprimand. Bo was sent parts west.

[The Sultan]

Cofield's last season was 1981-82.   Bo's first year in exile in Platteville was 84-85. Bo set up the loan under Cofield, and under Yoder they thought the idea of transferring rather than reporting the loan was a good idea (double squirmy).

So, Bo helped bring down two coaches (who knows how much Finley was paid). Yoder was on the chopping block with that move per the articles from that time but he got off with a reprimand. Bo was sent parts west.

Gotcha.  Didn't get a lot of bang for his buck win wise.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Awesome Story Herm hope you are correct.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Awesome Story Herm hope you are correct.

Heard from someone who has played against Carton and against and with Kur Kuath.
He feels Carton and Garcia were both "very good players" as evidenced by North Carolina. Darryl Morsell is an excellent replacement if not better than Carton overall especially when it comes to winning. As far as Replacing Garcia. Garcia was excellent but Kur is not as good but a very good player defensively and about as good when it comes to winning. I feel with Lewis playing more and maybe Joplin and others we will be alright. Am trying to relay what I was told to the best of my knowledge.

[TallTitan34]

Dawson wearing an edited Marquette jersey in his first endorsement.

https://twitter.com/jimmysseafood/status/1419996622092738561?s=21

[Johnny B]

Dawson wearing an edited Marquette jersey in his first endorsement.

https://twitter.com/jimmysseafood/status/1419996622092738561?s=21

how much money he make for somthing like thus

[TallTitan34]

Also has a camp now. Wasting no time with the NIL.

https://twitter.com/dawson23lee/status/1419763980420190212?s=21

[4everwarriors]

This is the way elite programs will do better going forward and get highly rated recruits. No kid is going to a camp hosted by athletes from Winona State, aina?

[lawdog77]

how much money he make for somthing like thus

Here's the connection:
http://baltimore.unc.alumnispaces.com/event/jimmys-unc-tar-heel-road-trip/

[wadesworld]

This is the way elite programs will do better going forward and get highly rated recruits. No kid is going to a camp hosted by athletes from Winona State, aina?

Yeah, because Winona State was so competitive with the elite programs on the recruiting trail before players could profit off their NIL.