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Author Topic: What's the word on Garcia?  (Read 82896 times)

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1075 on: July 14, 2021, 07:05:01 PM »
 i'm comparing styles.  garcia had a better freshman year than frankie, no doubt, but frankie developed and earned his place.  he actually had a nice few years in carolina.  i'm not dissing on the guy(frankie)  i've met him, he's as nice a guy as he appears to be on the floor.  my nephew went to high school with him and visits him often down in phoenix. my bro-in-law was his 8th grade b-ball coach and often quips, hey frankie, i knew you when you sucked.   
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1076 on: July 14, 2021, 07:06:31 PM »
Don’t care.  I’d take a team full of guys like him if they can match his college career



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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1077 on: July 14, 2021, 07:14:45 PM »
I am with you Goose.  Was not impressed with Garcia last year considering all the hype the signing got.  Lacks athleticism speed and hops.  defense suspect due to above shortcomings. Needs to develop a much more consistent shot . Nice college player but I think upside is limited.




Nah man, Garcia is tall. Dat kounts four somethin', aina?
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1078 on: July 14, 2021, 08:11:09 PM »



Nah man, Garcia is tall. Dat kounts four somethin', aina?

ya mean he gots length, ennn'a so
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1079 on: July 14, 2021, 08:55:06 PM »
I agree Carton was the bigger loss. But those dismissing Garcias talent are crazy
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1080 on: July 14, 2021, 09:48:39 PM »
Don’t care.  I’d take a team full of guys like him if they can match his college career
i i think you missed the Badger shot. Probably bad attempt on my part.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1081 on: July 15, 2021, 05:19:27 AM »
i i think you missed the Badger shot. Probably bad attempt on my part.

I think we all agree Frank Kaminsky can go pound sand
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1082 on: July 15, 2021, 07:03:43 AM »
I agree Carton was the bigger loss. But those dismissing Garcias talent are crazy

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1083 on: July 15, 2021, 09:44:48 AM »
TAMU

I think Garcia is a nice player and wish he was returning. That said, I was not a fan of his style of play. No doubt the kid can play, but I am not expecting to become a college AA or NBA star down the road. Have to admit, I have been wrong on a lot of players and he may prove me wrong.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1084 on: July 15, 2021, 09:51:00 AM »
Garcia was going to be a reincarnation of Scott Merritt. Good size, excellent skills, and a tad soft. I would love to have him on the team, but like many, if given the choice would have taken Carton.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1085 on: July 15, 2021, 10:02:13 AM »
Dawson Garcia is way better than Scott Merritt was after one year.  C'mon....
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1086 on: July 15, 2021, 10:25:21 AM »
Garcia was going to be a reincarnation of Scott Merritt. Good size, excellent skills, and a tad soft. I would love to have him on the team, but like many, if given the choice would have taken Carton.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1087 on: July 15, 2021, 10:29:43 AM »
Wasn't he rated lower than every other all Americans and some who didn't even get chosen in his class? I mean Joey at his peak was rated higher, Markus in his regular class was rated higher, JJJ and Vander were rated on par.

I keep seeing it mentioned that he didn't live up to his hype, but relative to his peers I don't think he was any better or worse. He was also a freshman, ill take those "soft" numbers from a freshman any day whether that's Dawson or Joey or whomever else.
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1088 on: July 15, 2021, 10:31:42 AM »
So far for comparisons we have (all stats from FR years):

Scott Merritt: 18.1mpg, 6.0ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.5 apg, 0.4 spg, 0.9 bpg, 61/142 FG (43%), 3/10 3P (30%)
Frank Kaminsky: 7.7 mpg, 1.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.3 apg, 0.1 spg, 0.4 bpg, 23/56 FG (41.1%), 10/35 3P (28.6%)
Dawson Garcia: 29.7 mpg, 13.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 0.8 apg, 0.3 spg, 0.5 bpg, 121/252 FG (48%), 26/73 (35.6%)

C'mon guys. You can not like Garcia's playstyle but these are hilariously bad comparisons. Kid is a huge talent. Does he have as much upside as Kaminsky? No idea but he was better as a FR than Merritt was a SR.
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1089 on: July 15, 2021, 10:39:09 AM »
So far for comparisons we have (all stats from FR years):

Scott Merritt: 18.1mpg, 6.0ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.5 apg, 0.4 spg, 0.9 bpg, 61/142 FG (43%), 3/10 3P (30%)
Frank Kaminsky: 7.7 mpg, 1.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.3 apg, 0.1 spg, 0.4 bpg, 23/56 FG (41.1%), 10/35 3P (28.6%)
Dawson Garcia: 29.7 mpg, 13.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 0.8 apg, 0.3 spg, 0.5 bpg, 121/252 FG (48%), 26/73 (35.6%)

C'mon guys. You can not like Garcia's playstyle but these are hilariously bad comparisons. Kid is a huge talent. Does he have as much upside as Kaminsky? No idea but he was better as a FR than Merritt was a SR.

Scott Merritt had a winning record at Marquette

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1090 on: July 15, 2021, 10:43:06 AM »
Scott Merritt had a winning record at Marquette


So did Andy Freund.  Are you going to argue he was better than Garcia as well?
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1091 on: July 15, 2021, 10:53:18 AM »

So did Andy Freund.  Are you going to argue he was better than Garcia as well?

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1092 on: July 15, 2021, 11:02:51 AM »
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Huge talent is a stretch. DWade was a huge talent. He definitely is better than Merritt and other than both being low energy, tall and skinny, I do not see any comparison between the two.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1093 on: July 15, 2021, 11:05:30 AM »
Scott Merritt had a winning record at Marquette

You are aware that basketball is a team sport correct?
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1094 on: July 15, 2021, 11:08:47 AM »
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Huge talent is a stretch. DWade was a huge talent.

Goose, if you want pick at my word choice go ahead. I would say DWade is one of the 25-30 best basketball players of all time. That goes beyond huge talent for me.
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1095 on: July 15, 2021, 11:19:53 AM »
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Not picking on your word, but disagree that a guy with one move around the basket, limited jumping ability and somewhat soft is a huge talent. Definitely not going to argue about Garcia, the player. As a fan, I was disappointed in what I saw from him last season. Again, I really hope he makes a crazy living in the NBA and no hard feelings regarding his departure.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1096 on: July 15, 2021, 11:27:39 AM »
Did not say that Merritt was better, just pointing out that there are some similarities. Do not underestimate the value of a pointless debate in the midst of the summer doldrums.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1097 on: July 15, 2021, 12:10:16 PM »
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Not picking on your word, but disagree that a guy with one move around the basket, limited jumping ability and somewhat soft is a huge talent. Definitely not going to argue about Garcia, the player. As a fan, I was disappointed in what I saw from him last season. Again, I really hope he makes a crazy living in the NBA and no hard feelings regarding his departure.
What's the over /under on where/whether Garcia gets drafted next year? I would put it at about number 40 (mid second round). I would not be surprised if he has a very good year and sneaks into the first round.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1098 on: July 15, 2021, 12:25:39 PM »
Did not say that Merritt was better, just pointing out that there are some similarities. Do not underestimate the value of a pointless debate in the midst of the summer doldrums.

It was just a really weird comparison, that's all.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #1099 on: July 15, 2021, 12:56:40 PM »
I understand some of flak towards Garcia. He's gone and a lot of you want to minimalize what he did. I thought he was terrific as a freshman. His biggest weakness was a lack of strength. Which is understandable considering he didn't come on campus until September. Meanwhile our current batch of FR have been working with Todd since June. Given a Summer working with a NCAA strength and conditioning coach would greatly improve his physical conditioning/strength. If not. Then why have the team have strenuous workouts in the summer? Dawson is probably on the UNC campus or heading there shortly. You'll see a different physical specimen come November and it will be seen in his play. He was a big, big, loss. For comparison. OMP had 41 rebs and 54 points for THE ENTIRE YEAR. That's averaging 10 minutes a game. For those who have seen Joplin play last year. Do you think he had the physical characteristics to play in the BE at the end of his HS career? I don't. But with a summer working out. Hopefully that will change.