UCLA/MU Next Year

[MuggsyB]

That will be a hot ticket at Fiserv.  I expect UCLA to be a top 5 team next year even if they lose Juzang to the draft.

[Herman Cain]

That will be a hot ticket at Fiserv.  I expect UCLA to be a top 5 team next year even if they lose Juzang tonthe draft.

Scholl and Broeker( and to be generous Wojo) did a nice job of making that series   happen. Could be a partial reason for people to re up season tickets.

[Silent Verbal]

What are the chances of this being a Saturday game?  Feels like it's going to be a Tuesday or Wednesday night game for tv purposes.

Also, this game is actually happening, right?  Like, UCLA can't back out now that they've caught fire?  I seem to recall MU playing UNC years ago in NC under Crean and possibly getting screwed out of the return game.

[marqfan22]

I believe the UNC game in 2000 was a one time thing. UNC was never scheduled to return the game.

[Johnny B]

how confident are we it will be full capcity allowed no masks?

[brewcity77]

how confident are we it will be full capcity allowed no masks?

I'm not confident at all. But I imagine the more people that get vaccinated, the closer we'll get to that. It will be interesting to see the requirements put in for fan attendance and vaccination.

[tower912]

I'm not confident at all. But I imagine the more people that get vaccinated, the closer we'll get to that. It will be interesting to see the requirements put in for fan attendance and vaccination.

Passport.

[GooooMarquette]

Passport.

Yep. If businesses/teams/leagues start requiring them, it would be the safest and most efficient way to get fans back in the seats.

[Uncle Rico]

how confident are we it will be full capcity allowed no masks?

100%

[MuggsyB]

how confident are we it will be full capcity allowed no masks?

I think it's a fluid situation.  We have no idea how long these vaccines will last.  Some are speculating we will have to get vaccinated every 6 or 12 mos.  We also don't have enough data regarding various strains.  As for the vaccine passport?  Businesses have every right to choose to operate in any way they please but a federal vaccine passport mandate would be extremely problematic and unconstitutional.

[mileskishnish72]

Passport.

As long as it's not a photo ID!

[Scoop Snoop]

I think it's a fluid situation.  We have no idea how long these vaccines will last.  Some are speculating we will have to get vaccinated every 6 or 12 mos.  We also don't have enough data regarding various strains.  As for the vaccine passport?  Businesses have every right to choose to operate in any way they please but a federal vaccine passport mandate would be extremely problematic and unconstitutional.

I would not be so sure about the bolded. I'm not saying anything about what should or not be. Look at the mandatory business shutdowns when the virus spiked. Stating that something is unconstitutional does not make it so.

[Badgerhater]

Yep. If businesses/teams/leagues start requiring them, it would be the safest and most efficient way to get fans back in the seats.

Then someone else gets my seat.  I am vaccinated but won't go to a game that requires a passport.

[MuggsyB]

I would not be so sure about the bolded. I'm not saying anything about what should or not be. Look at the mandatory business shutdowns when the virus spiked. Stating that something is unconstitutional does not make it so.

I don't want to get into a political discussion but if you mandate a vaccine passport there will be major issues about other health choices people make. 

[vogue65]

I think it's a fluid situation.  We have no idea how long these vaccines will last.  Some are speculating we will have to get vaccinated every 6 or 12 mos.  We also don't have enough data regarding various strains.  As for the vaccine passport?  Businesses have every right to choose to operate in any way they please but a federal vaccine passport mandate would be extremely problematic and unconstitutional.

Amend the constitution.

[Jockey]

Then someone else gets my seat.  I am vaccinated but won't go to a game that requires a passport.

Not a problem. No one will care and someone else will get the tickets.

[vogue65]

Then someone else gets my seat.  I am vaccinated but won't go to a game that requires a passport.

You won't be missed, and you are.

[vogue65]

Our constitution is like an autoimune disease.
I have an autoimune disease, my body works against itself.
Our system works against our country.
It's like using the rules to stop work and progress.

[MuggsyB]

Amend the constitution.

So if a person decides not to get vaccinated, or they don't want to be traced by big tech and live in a free society, they shouldn't be allowed say to buy groceries if that business chooses to require the passport?  Maybe they're worried about long-term ramifications for their children?  Also, what if the government wanted to determine the health rights of a mother's "right to choose"?  How do you think that would work out?  A mandatory vaccine passport would be a powder keg situation and very bad for a free society.  And it would hurt the lowest socioeconomic class the most.

[Pakuni]

Businesses have every right to choose to operate in any way they please but a federal vaccine passport mandate would be extremely problematic and unconstitutional.

Courts have ruled time and again that vaccine mandates are constitutional (such as for schools and workplaces), with very few exemptions allowed.

[Small Orange Soda]

So if a person decides not to get vaccinated, or they don't want to be traced by big tech and live in a free society

Then I'd suggest you dump your cell phone and stop posting on the internet.

[vogue65]

So if a person decides not to get vaccinated, or they don't want to be traced by big tech and live in a free society, they shouldn't be allowed say to buy groceries if that business chooses to require the passport?  Maybe they're worried about long-term ramifications for their children?  Also, what if the government say wanted to determine the health rights of a mother's "right to choose"?  How do you think that would work out?  A mandatory vaccine passport would be a powder keg situation and very bad for a free society.  And it would hurt the lowest socioeconomic class the most.

Yes, whatever it takes.

We argue about trivia, slippery slopes, and hypothetical nonsence as the world eats our lunch.
During the Vietnam war there was an explosion of law students and law schools for the draft dodging students.  That has led to paralysis by litigation.

So much for common sense, reasonableness, and the common good.  Today everyone is making a case about everything.   Yes, you are right, from your point of view.  From your camera angle, I understand how the world looks.  You win.  I'll just go down with the ship with the rest of us. 

I forgot to mention the proliferation of extrajudicial mediation and arbitration. Why?  The courts are full of litigation.  The dockets are full of lawyers and their cases.  Then we have plea bargening and we call that justice under our constitution.  We need reform, big time reform, including the constitution.  And by the way, I'm a real conservative, if lables matter.

HAPPY, PEACEFUL, EASTER

[GooooMarquette]

Courts have ruled time and again that vaccine mandates are constitutional (such as for schools and workplaces), with very few exemptions allowed.

Correct. Somewhere in one of these threads I posted a description of the constitutional analysis back when states were mandating polio vaccines. The Supreme Court upheld it then, and there haven't been any pertinent Constitutional amendments that would cause them to rule otherwise today.

[MuggsyB]

Then I'd suggest you dump your cell phone and stop posting on the internet.

I didn't say me personally but people are going to have a problem with their health privacy being eliminated.  And you could easily argue that if the government can mandate these particular vaccines they could mandate a lot of other things. It wouldn't be pleasant regardless of which party is in power..   

[MuggsyB]

Yes, whatever it takes.

We argue about trivia, slippery slopes, and hypothetical nonsence as the world eats our lunch.
During the Vietnam war there was an explosion of law students and law schools for the draft dodging students.  That has led to paralysis by litigation.

So much for common sense, reasonableness, and the common good.  Today everyone is making a case about everything.   Yes, you are right, from your point of view.  From your camera angle, I understand how the world looks.  You win.  I'll just go down with the ship with the rest of us. 

I forgot to mention the proliferation of extrajudicial mediation and arbitration. Why?  The courts are full of litigation.  The dockets are full of lawyers and their cases.  Then we have plea bargening and we call that justice under our constitution.  We need reform, big time reform, including the constitution.  And by the way, I'm a real conservative, if lables matter.

HAPPY, PEACEFUL, EASTER

So you literally believe if a person chooses not to get vaccinated, for whatever reason, now and every year moving forward, they shouldn't be allowed to buy groceries if that business requires a vaccine passport?  I mean think about this for a second.....really??