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Creighton coach Greg McDermott says he offered to resign after racially insensitive comments to men's basketball team
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31000499/creighton-coach-greg-mcdermott-says-offered-resign-racially-insensitive-comments-men-basketball-team

He did it correctly. He asked the players the comment was addressed to what they thought should be done.

Hopefully, this is the end of it.

Creighton men's basketball coach Greg McDermott, who previously apologized for urging his players to "stay on the plantation" in a postgame locker room talk following a loss over the weekend, said on Wednesday that he offered to resign over his comments.

McDermott said on Creighton's pregame radio show before a 72-60 loss to No. 10 Villanova that he had a long meeting with players on Sunday night and said he saw "pain in their face(s)" and hoped "one mistake doesn't define you."

McDermott said he wanted to make sure the Bluejays wanted him to remain as coach and apologized for the "distraction that I brought to this team for the choice that I made."

McDermott said the Bluejays -- whose players wear "equality" on the back of their jerseys -- did not ask for him to resign.

"Our guys wanted me to coach and that's my job," McDermott said.



D'Lo Brown

QuoteHopefully, this is the end of it.

Agreed, but I'm dubious. All it takes is one former player or disgruntled person etc claiming he said whatever. He could be taken down with a feather right now.

brewcity77

I think the long term ramifications are the real problem. The negative recruiting story writes itself and doesn't go away after March.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 04, 2021, 07:00:41 AM
I think the long term ramifications are the real problem. The negative recruiting story writes itself and doesn't go away after March.

Eh, maybe.  He said he immediately apologized, and it is the first time something like this has come up with him.  If there was more to it, there would be more reports from players and coworkers... sort of like there was with Gregg Marshall.

I think this story is over unless other past allegations arise.

naginiF

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 04, 2021, 07:12:28 AM
Eh, maybe.  He said he immediately apologized, and it is the first time something like this has come up with him.  If there was more to it, there would be more reports from players and coworkers... sort of like there was with Gregg Marshall.

I think this story is over unless other past allegations arise.
As a stand alone I agree, but depending on what happened behind the scenes with the NCAA violations a couple of years back there could also be a trend of questionable behavior that adds up. I know the assistant that was the cause of the investigation left the program but don't know if any of that touched McDermott.

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The Sultan

Quote from: naginiF on March 04, 2021, 07:27:28 AM
As a stand alone I agree, but depending on what happened behind the scenes with the NCAA violations a couple of years back there could also be a trend of questionable behavior that adds up. I know the assistant that was the cause of the investigation left the program but don't know if any of that touched McDermott.


Remember there were also some allegations from former Black players just a few months ago.  Then you have McDermott using words like plantation, and apparently he has lost the team....

I think he's done.
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brewcity77

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 04, 2021, 07:12:28 AM
Eh, maybe.  He said he immediately apologized, and it is the first time something like this has come up with him.  If there was more to it, there would be more reports from players and coworkers... sort of like there was with Gregg Marshall.

I think this story is over unless other past allegations arise.

I think it gets him through the end of the season with players that know him, but when it comes to a 2022, 2023, or further beyond recruit, it will be the option of going with the guy that told his players to stay on the plantation or another coach that didn't. When stories like this go national, it's easy fodder.

cheebs09

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 04, 2021, 08:03:35 AM

Remember there were also some allegations from former Black players just a few months ago.  Then you have McDermott using words like plantation, and apparently he has lost the team....

I think he's done.

Yea. I wouldn't be surprised if the players said we've got a good season going, let's ride it out. Just because he didn't resign today, doesn't mean he's long for Creighton.

WarriorPride68

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 04, 2021, 08:03:35 AM

Remember there were also some allegations from former Black players just a few months ago.  Then you have McDermott using words like plantation, and apparently he has lost the team....

I think he's done.

Justin Patton & Mo Watson didn't waste any time to let their thoughts be known.

Agree with others. Good luck recruiting moving forward. Seth Trimble, 2022 offer of theirs from Mf, his mother was online saying she won't be sending her son there

brewcity77

I also thought Terrence Rencher's comments were worth looking at:

"I am deeply hurt by his words," said Rencher, who is Black. "While my relationship with Coach has been positive and I have never witnessed any racist energy from him, what he said was wrong and insensitive. 'Plantation' had a dark and hurtful history in my community and cannot be overlooked.

"The players have decided that they want to continue to chase their goals on the court this season with Coach McDermott, and I support their wishes and will continue to pour my heart into coaching them and helping them deal with larger issues."


I wonder if the "this season" part is telling. Basically, the team is in to finish out this campaign, but all bets are off once their NCAA run is over.

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Who TF even says the word plantation?  How is that in your lexicon?
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CTWarrior

Quote from: The Lens on March 04, 2021, 08:50:11 AM
Who TF even says the word plantation?  How is that in your lexicon?
That is what I was thinking.  How does that even accidentally pop out of your mouth?

As far as the Big East is concerned, the league is starting to sink a bit because top coaches are leaving, so I'd hate to have to see him leave.
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MU24

Such a weird phrase to come out of someone's mouth, especially since its not the 80s or something. Seems like he owned up and hopes to grow as a person. Its not like he deflected his responsibility and didnt own up to it, like so many other people do with their "apologies".
Its not right what he said, but noone is perfect. We can only hope people change and become more aware of their words and the impact they have.

MU82

Based on what we know today, I hope McDermott can survive this. I believe strongly in second chances, especially when the offending party seems genuinely contrite and willing to work to improve.

But the reality is that if Creighton's administration sees this as something that can hurt the program going forward, they have little choice to move on ... and it effectively will end McDermott's career.

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The Sultan

Quote from: MU24 on March 04, 2021, 09:00:18 AM
Such a weird phrase to come out of someone's mouth, especially since its not the 80s or something. Seems like he owned up and hopes to grow as a person. Its not like he deflected his responsibility and didnt own up to it, like so many other people do with their "apologies".
Its not right what he said, but noone is perfect. We can only hope people change and become more aware of their words and the impact they have.


While this is undoubtedly true, Creighton may legit feel that he can change and become more aware on someone else's dime.
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tower912

I think there are steps he can take and Creighton can take to save his job.   For example, take 1/4 of his salary for the next couple years and fund diversity sensitivity classes for the university and community.  Greg attends.   

The details can be worked out, but something on that track.
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GooooMarquette

Like others have said, I think he's gone after the season.

It's one thing for this year's players to want an experienced coach to keep coaching them when they're having a good season. It's another for a coach to recruit new players with a story like that floating around. And it isn't a story abut something he said or did years ago; it's something he said in the middle of today's social and racial tensions.

Maybe he can salvage it, but it would be an uphill climb.

WarriorPride68

Quote from: MU82 on March 04, 2021, 09:03:51 AM
Based on what we know today, I hope McDermott can survive this.

Greg shouldn't say racially insensitive things. I don't feel bad for him


Dr. Blackheart

Leave colloquialisms out of your speeches. Unfortunate use of that phrase but I have heard it used a long time ago. Think about the alternative choices he could have used:  "Circle the wagons" or "Gather the troops". Not good either in today's world but they are used even today in sports or media. Is there one of us who has not used those two phrases?

Unless there is something else that comes out, his mistake is something we can all learn from. He apologized, he is getting penalized, and he is contrite.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: The Lens on March 04, 2021, 08:50:11 AM
Who TF even says the word plantation?  How is that in your lexicon?

I mean it is Nebraska...
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jficke13

I've never heard that expression used in that way. It's a weird one to use tbh.

It will be interesting to see if he survives this. I could see it going either way. Gut says he steps down at the end of the year, but it's not a firmly held conviction.

cheebs09

If this comment was the extent of it. I think he would probably survive it. My thought is based on comments from former players and some comments recently, this might be more than a one-time incident.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Doesn't seem like this is the first instance though. If Justin Patton is anything to go off of.

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