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Re: Vote!
« Reply #125 on: October 21, 2020, 08:58:38 AM »
I should've been more expansive. People without face coverings will not be allowed in polling locations. They may stay outside and have a ballot brought to them by a greeter. This is per the poll worker training I attended last week.

They cannot be prevented from casting a ballot, but they will not be allowed in the polling place.

Gotcha. That makes sense.
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« Reply #126 on: October 21, 2020, 09:38:01 AM »
I should've been more expansive. People without face coverings will not be allowed in polling locations. They may stay outside and have a ballot brought to them by a greeter. This is per the poll worker training I attended last week.

They cannot be prevented from casting a ballot, but they will not be allowed in the polling place.


I like that plan. Good to hear voting officials have thought this through and come up with viable - and safe - plans.

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Re: Vote!
« Reply #127 on: October 21, 2020, 09:49:17 AM »
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« Reply #128 on: October 21, 2020, 04:19:52 PM »
This probably belongs in the "Vote - Humor" section, but...


Amy Barrett's response to written follow-up questions about whether things that are illegal are illegal.

“According to federal law, is it legal to vote twice in a single federal election?” asked Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.).

“As a sitting judge and as a judicial nominee, it would not be appropriate for me to offer an opinion on abstract legal issues or hypotheticals,” Barrett wrote.

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Re: Vote!
« Reply #129 on: October 22, 2020, 09:22:17 AM »
Annnnd ... here we go with armed thugs doing Trump's bidding to "watch" polling places.

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-pinellas/sheriffs-office-investigates-report-of-possible-voter-intimidation-at-st-pete-voting-location-pinellas-soe-says

Voter suppression is his only chance, and he very well might pull it off.
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Re: Vote!
« Reply #130 on: October 22, 2020, 03:52:46 PM »
Voter suppression is his only chance, and he very well might pull it off.

Fake news.
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« Reply #131 on: October 22, 2020, 04:03:22 PM »
Rocket Trigger Warning (wild that saying this would trigger anyone, but it's the world we live in): Black Lives Matter

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« Reply #132 on: October 22, 2020, 04:08:33 PM »
Boris and Natasha at it again.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/us/politics/russia-election-interference-hacks.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20201022&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=41935&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

WASHINGTON — While senior Trump administration officials said this week that Iran has been actively interfering in the presidential election, many intelligence officials said they remained far more concerned about Russia, which in recent days has hacked into state and local computer networks in breaches that could allow Moscow broader access to American voting infrastructure.

The discovery of the hacks came as American intelligence agencies, infiltrating Russian networks themselves, have pieced together details of what they believe are Russia’s plans to interfere in the presidential race in its final days or immediately after the election on Nov. 3. Officials did not make clear what Russia planned to do, but they said its operations would be intended to help President Trump, potentially by exacerbating disputes around the results, especially if the race is too close to call.

There is no evidence that the Russians have changed any vote tallies or voter registration information, officials said. They added that the Russian-backed hackers had penetrated the computer networks without taking further action, as they did in 2016. But American officials expect that if the presidential race is not called on election night, Russian groups could use their knowledge of the local computer systems to deface websites, release nonpublic information or take similar steps that could sow chaos and doubts about the integrity of the results, according to American officials briefed on the intelligence.
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Re: Vote!
« Reply #133 on: October 22, 2020, 07:11:47 PM »
Annnnd ... here we go with armed thugs doing Trump's bidding to "watch" polling places.



I remember when the new Black Panther Party (unarmed but dressed in para military gear) were intimidating voters at polling places. Obama’s attorney general (and self proclaimed “wingman”) Eric Holder (unsurprisingly) declined to prosecute.

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« Reply #134 on: October 22, 2020, 07:13:32 PM »
I remember when the new Black Panther Party (unarmed but dressed in para military gear) were intimidating voters at polling places. Obama’s attorney general (and self proclaimed “wingman”) Eric Holder (unsurprisingly) declined to prosecute.

I know.  For some people unarmed black people can be intimidating.
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« Reply #135 on: October 22, 2020, 08:05:48 PM »
I know.  For some people unarmed black people can be intimidating.

I think for most people young guys (black or white) in para military garb (technically unarmed but at least one with a baseball bat) would be intimidating.

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Re: Vote!
« Reply #136 on: October 22, 2020, 08:31:07 PM »
I think for most people young guys (black or white) in para military garb (technically unarmed but at least one with a baseball bat) would be intimidating.

Paramilitary garb? Lots of armies wear black leather jackets, I guess.



Maybe you meant these bat-wielding young guys in paramilitary garb.



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« Reply #137 on: October 22, 2020, 08:36:05 PM »
I think for most people young guys (black or white) in para military garb (technically unarmed but at least one with a baseball bat) would be intimidating.

So scary.
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« Reply #138 on: October 22, 2020, 08:56:27 PM »
I think for most people young guys (black or white) in para military garb (technically unarmed but at least one with a baseball bat) would be intimidating.

I would avoid anyone walking around with a baseball bat (or a gun for that matter)

But para military gear? That's business casual around here.
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« Reply #139 on: October 22, 2020, 10:13:24 PM »
Look at all the pics from Google (where Pak) got his) Pants tucked into army boots, a guy with what looks like a baseball bat, etc.

Look, I’m not trying to start a fight. If you guys honestly think those guys were there to hand out “Kiss me, I voted” stickers and not to intimidate people, so be it.

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« Reply #140 on: October 22, 2020, 10:19:50 PM »
Look at all the pics from Google (where Pak) got his) Pants tucked into army boots, a guy with what looks like a baseball bat, etc.

Look, I’m not trying to start a fight. If you guys honestly think those guys were there to hand out “Kiss me, I voted” stickers and not to intimidate people, so be it.

You've got a small leg to stand on but, and maybe it's just me, I'd personally find a bunch of people with assault weapons slightly more intimidating than a piece of sporting equipment. Maybe it's just a bit of false equivalency despite similar situations.
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Re: Vote!
« Reply #141 on: October 22, 2020, 10:26:46 PM »
Look at all the pics from Google (where Pak) got his) Pants tucked into army boots, a guy with what looks like a baseball bat, etc.

Look, I’m not trying to start a fight. If you guys honestly think those guys were there to hand out “Kiss me, I voted” stickers and not to intimidate people, so be it.

Just having some fun with your whataboutism, Lenny.
It shouldn't be hard to say, regardless of political leaning, that voter intimidation is bad, without dredging up something that happened more than a decade ago.
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« Reply #142 on: October 22, 2020, 11:07:11 PM »
Just having some fun with your whataboutism, Lenny.
It shouldn't be hard to say, regardless of political leaning, that voter intimidation is bad, without dredging up something that happened more than a decade ago.

No problem, Pak. And in the spirit of fairness, I was wrong about the baseball bat. It was actually a billy club.

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« Reply #143 on: October 23, 2020, 07:59:18 AM »
Fake news.

I mean, I don't think it's his only way.  But if one of your overt tactics is to make it harder for people to cast their vote, and throw up a bunch of false fraud claims in the process, then you're really not much of a believer in the democratic process.

Socialists indeed.
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« Reply #144 on: October 23, 2020, 12:41:05 PM »
I just heard on NPR that military personnel stationed overseas can vote online.

Which means it can be done, safely and securely.

We all should be able to do it that way.
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« Reply #145 on: October 23, 2020, 01:43:52 PM »
I just heard on NPR that military personnel stationed overseas can vote online.

Which means it can be done, safely and securely.

We all should be able to do it that way.

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... nope.

Too much room for chicanery.  Unless we get a robust blockchain voting system.

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« Reply #146 on: October 23, 2020, 02:25:52 PM »
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... nope.

Too much room for chicanery.  Unless we get a robust blockchain voting system.

30 years ago, not long after Al Gore invented the interwebs, all of the stuff we are able to do online now sounded like something from The Jetsons or 2001: A Space Odyssey.

I'm hopeful that there will be a way.
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« Reply #147 on: October 23, 2020, 05:24:45 PM »
30 years ago, not long after Al Gore invented the interwebs, all of the stuff we are able to do online now sounded like something from The Jetsons or 2001: A Space Odyssey.

I'm hopeful that there will be a way.


Yep. I manage all my financial assets online, do the vast majority of my non-grocery shopping online, even bought a car online. I can find a hard-to-find old gizmo halfway around the world and have it at my front door in a couple of days without ever interacting with another human being.

In terms of governmental things, I complete and file my state and federal income taxes online. And if I wanted to pay a service fee, I could also pay my real estate taxes online.

And although I can't yet vote online, I went online to request an absentee ballot. Then after completing and returning the ballot, I went (surprise!) online to verify that the ballot had been authenticated and registered into the MN Secretary of State's voting system.

The fact that we can't actually vote online is a relic that will change before we know it. And someday our incredulous grandkids or great-grandkids will be amazed that grandma and grandpa actually had to go to a local school or church to fill out a paper form to vote.

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Re: Vote!
« Reply #148 on: October 23, 2020, 07:28:18 PM »
I know.  For some people unarmed black people can be intimidating.

  i'm just going to hang up and listen-

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Re: Vote!
« Reply #149 on: October 23, 2020, 07:48:36 PM »
More people have already voted early in Georgia than they did in all of 2016. Over a week of early voting to go there, also open Saturdays.