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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2020, 01:56:44 PM »
Where do you see that? 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/10/14/ncaa-winter-sports-extra-eligibility/

"For fall sports, seniors who return for an extra season during the 2021-22 academic year will not count toward the team’s scholarship limit. However, in the years that follow, schools cannot exceed the limit, even though athletes on the team still would be allowed extra eligibility. In those cases, if schools choose to let athletes use their extra season of eligibility, it would effectively take away that scholarship from incoming recruits. The Division I Council’s announcement did not specify whether those same rules would be applied for winter sports."


Logically, there is no reason to comment on years after 2021-22 if this only applied to seniors. 
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2020, 02:07:48 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/10/14/ncaa-winter-sports-extra-eligibility/

"For fall sports, seniors who return for an extra season during the 2021-22 academic year will not count toward the team’s scholarship limit. However, in the years that follow, schools cannot exceed the limit, even though athletes on the team still would be allowed extra eligibility. In those cases, if schools choose to let athletes use their extra season of eligibility, it would effectively take away that scholarship from incoming recruits. The Division I Council’s announcement did not specify whether those same rules would be applied for winter sports."


Logically, there is no reason to comment on years after 2021-22 if this only applied to seniors.

And I believe it was the same for the spring 2020 season, although that was a different situation in that their seasons were fully shut down.  But I can't imagine they'd offer an extra year of eligibility to all classes for fall and spring, and then only to seniors for winter.

Theo playing this season and then being back for the 2021-2022 season would be nice.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2020, 05:06:16 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/10/14/ncaa-winter-sports-extra-eligibility/

"For fall sports, seniors who return for an extra season during the 2021-22 academic year will not count toward the team’s scholarship limit. However, in the years that follow, schools cannot exceed the limit, even though athletes on the team still would be allowed extra eligibility. In those cases, if schools choose to let athletes use their extra season of eligibility, it would effectively take away that scholarship from incoming recruits. The Division I Council’s announcement did not specify whether those same rules would be applied for winter sports."


Logically, there is no reason to comment on years after 2021-22 if this only applied to seniors.

Thanks.  Helpful.

So basically all college athletes get an extra year, but that will require a team making space for them in the scholership count following 21-22 season.  Nice little perk I suppose with a younger roster. 
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2020, 06:30:14 PM »
No I don't think so.  I think it's everyone.
This is the way I took it. Basically, they said they were going to grant the extra year now, so players do not redshirt, because the season might go in the tank.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2020, 07:03:50 PM »
So this means we get one more year out of Wade, right?
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2020, 07:08:19 PM »
O'tule can finally come back for his tenth season.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2020, 09:45:40 PM »
O'tule can finally come back for his tenth season.

We call him Professor O'tule at this point right?

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2020, 09:26:01 AM »
So this means we get one more year out of Wade, right?


It's possible he may have signed with an agent at some point. Could someone check this?

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2020, 09:31:12 AM »
Since we are thin upfront, Jim Chones is available?

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2020, 10:30:49 AM »
Should Perez immediately apply for a waiver to play this season? It seems to me it would be a mistake to redshirt as he had planned to.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2020, 10:32:31 AM »
Should Perez immediately apply for a waiver to play this season? It seems to me it would be a mistake to redshirt as he had planned to.

Good point.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2020, 10:36:28 AM »
Should Perez immediately apply for a waiver to play this season? It seems to me it would be a mistake to redshirt as he had planned to.

Thought process being that he could play out his 2 years, and then get a the extra Covid year, as opposed to sitting this one out and then playing out his last 2 years?

Are we sure that if he redshirts this year, we won't be eligible for the extra year anyway?

If a guy is currently a 5th year senior, I would assume that 5th senior isn't exempt from the new covid eligibility rule, so not sure why Perez would be any different (other than he would count towards the 13 scholarships in his 5th year of play). 
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2020, 08:30:39 AM »
Thought process being that he could play out his 2 years, and then get a the extra Covid year, as opposed to sitting this one out and then playing out his last 2 years?

Are we sure that if he redshirts this year, we won't be eligible for the extra year anyway?

If a guy is currently a 5th year senior, I would assume that 5th senior isn't exempt from the new covid eligibility rule, so not sure why Perez would be any different (other than he would count towards the 13 scholarships in his 5th year of play).

I do not know for sure. However, they said the reason why they were making the decision now was so players did not decide to redshirt because they were afraid the season would be shorten. It stands to reason they are not going to give an extra year to a player who is redshirting.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2020, 09:07:18 AM »
He will get the extra year. It’s now six years to play five.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2020, 10:49:52 AM »
Seriously, unless Perez really doesn't want to play this season, why wouldn't he go for a waiver? Or has the deadline already passed for such a thing?
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2020, 01:39:53 PM »
Unless something has changed, Perez is not seeking a waiver. I think when he was recruited the coaches presented a plan about how they would use his redshirt year to up his game and I think he liked what he heard.

While most athletes would prefer to play over redshirt, there are a few who see and appreciate the benefit of a year off. Its really an underutilized tool in college basketball.
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« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2020, 03:14:05 PM »
Unless something has changed, Perez is not seeking a waiver. I think when he was recruited the coaches presented a plan about how they would use his redshirt year to up his game and I think he liked what he heard.

While most athletes would prefer to play over redshirt, there are a few who see and appreciate the benefit of a year off. Its really an underutilized tool in college basketball.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2020, 03:42:28 PM »
So this means we get one more year out of Wade, right?

Didn't he already have a year left?
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2020, 04:00:08 PM »
Next offseason is going to be wild. Some seniors staying, some leaving, possibly instant transfers. I hope we are prepping now. Those not prepared for the new world order could get left behind quickly.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2020, 06:30:25 PM »
Unless something has changed, Perez is not seeking a waiver. I think when he was recruited the coaches presented a plan about how they would use his redshirt year to up his game and I think he liked what he heard.

While most athletes would prefer to play over redshirt, there are a few who see and appreciate the benefit of a year off. Its really an underutilized tool in college basketball.


Thanks for the update.

And I agree with you on the redshirt year. The combination of academics and playing a high D1 level must be pretty overwhelming. If a kid isn’t expected to play much anyway, I can see how a redshirt year could be a godsend. Gives him the opportunity to advance his academics, be part of the team, but not have the added pressure of being game ready if he isn’t expected to play.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2020, 09:29:05 PM »
I think it basically comes down to this. Redshirt this year and play 2021-22 & 2022-23. Do not redshirt this year and play 2020-2021, 2021-2022 and 2022-2023.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2020, 09:34:59 PM »
I think it basically comes down to this. Redshirt this year and play 2021-22 & 2022-23. Do not redshirt this year and play 2020-2021, 2021-2022 and 2022-2023.

I don't believe this is correct. I think the first option is redshirt this year, play 2021-2024.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2020, 10:15:43 PM »
I don't believe this is correct. I think the first option is redshirt this year, play 2021-2024.

I guess the question is if one has to play the 2020-21 season to get the extra COVID year. If that's the only shortened year, I can see playing that season being a requirement. Maybe play 20-21 and sit out a later year? Obviously that's not the plan, though.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2020, 07:11:19 AM »
I guess the question is if one has to play the 2020-21 season to get the extra COVID year. If that's the only shortened year, I can see playing that season being a requirement. Maybe play 20-21 and sit out a later year? Obviously that's not the plan, though.

As I understand it, it’s just giving someone six seasons to complete five years of eligibility, so you can redshirt this year.
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« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2020, 12:19:29 PM »
Next offseason is going to be wild. Some seniors staying, some leaving, possibly instant transfers. I hope we are prepping now. Those not prepared for the new world order could get left behind quickly.

Decisions are likely being prepared for already as to who gets asked to return and who gets shown the door. Schools are going to have difficulty managing larger rosters and paying for more scholarships. Wisconsin took the “you played four years, time to move on to real life” position in the spring which seemed harsh but now may become the norm. Would MU be ok with 17 women’s scholarship players next year?
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