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Author Topic: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?  (Read 2712 times)

tower912

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Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« on: October 13, 2020, 08:40:37 PM »
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2020, 08:41:44 PM »
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/report-ncaa-division-i-council-has-made-decision-on-extra-eligibility-for-winter-sports-student-athletes/

This should lead to some interesting discussions.   

Bring back Markus!

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Lose lose for MU. Cancel the season because of covid, or cancel the season because Markus is too hard to play with so we couldn’t field a team of 5.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2020, 08:51:44 PM »
Just for discussion purposes ...

Markus finished with 2,761 points (#21 all-time D1 college basketball)

If he came back, Maravich's all-time points record of 3,667 points is 906 points away.

Assuming 30 game season, he would have to average 30 points/game to break the record.

Second place is Portland State's Freeman Williams (1974 to 1978) with 3249 points.  That is 488 points away, or 16 points/game (again assuming 30 games).

Second place would make him the highest career scoring college player in 40+ years.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2020, 08:58:24 PM »
The way I read it the description, it will apply only to people coming into this season, not to athletes who have already used up their eligibility.

Probably based on the assumption that there will be risk and disruption playing this coming season.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2020, 10:59:25 PM »
Markus can't come back.

The provision would be for coronavirus, not cancer.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2020, 08:23:06 AM »
The way I read it the description, it will apply only to people coming into this season, not to athletes who have already used up their eligibility.

Probably based on the assumption that there will be risk and disruption playing this coming season.

This. And unfortunately our senior class isn’t exactly star studded.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2020, 08:30:45 AM »
This. And unfortunately our senior class isn’t exactly star studded.

Give Theo a fifth year and maybe he could make it through 40min without fouling out.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2020, 08:46:02 AM »
We're having a difficult enough time recruiting a big as is. Having John around for a 5th year will all but close the books on the Holmes and Aidoo recruitments

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2020, 08:52:31 AM »
We're having a difficult enough time recruiting a big as is. Having John around for a 5th year will all but close the books on the Holmes and Aidoo recruitments

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2020, 08:54:33 AM »
Look, Markus is a great guy and huge asset to our program. But it is time to move on.

For better or worse, we need to develop what we have. Let Carton and Koby take the helm. Learn to distribute and get our four star/Burger Boy wings fully engaged.

We have a great opportunity to see what we have, beginning with the Coach. Either we make it or not but bringing Markus back at this point would be a disaster.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2020, 08:57:44 AM »
Look, Markus is a great guy and huge asset to our program. But it is time to move on.

For better or worse, we need to develop what we have. Let Carton and Koby take the helm. Learn to distribute and get our four star/Burger Boy wings fully engaged.

We have a great opportunity to see what we have, beginning with the Coach. Either we make it or not but bringing Markus back at this point would be a disaster.


Cmon people.  tower's comment was in teal and Heisey is just doing what Heisey does.

Markus can't come back.  The rule doesn't cover him.  He's already signed with an agent anyway.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2020, 09:06:21 AM »
I wonder if the thing that is the biggest knock-on effect of a 5th year of eligibility granted across the board is an explosion of grad transfers.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2020, 09:35:00 AM »
I know Markus can't come back.   Hence the teal.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2020, 09:48:41 AM »
I wonder if the thing that is the biggest knock-on effect of a 5th year of eligibility granted across the board is an explosion of grad transfers.
The biggest thing is how they handle the scholarship limit. The NCAA would at least temporarily allow more than 13 scholarships.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2020, 10:50:53 AM »
The biggest thing is how they handle the scholarship limit. The NCAA would at least temporarily allow more than 13 scholarships.

Probably only for teams that have guys returning get the extra spots. 

IE - lets say Theo and Jamal decide to return for a 5th year, and Koby decides to move on.

Marquette then has 15 scholarships for 2021-22 season, not 13. 

Only way to keep the grad transfers in check. 
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2020, 11:43:14 AM »
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2020, 11:44:06 AM »
I wonder if the thing that is the biggest knock-on effect of a 5th year of eligibility granted across the board is an explosion of grad transfers.

Every Ivy League senior will be grad transfer eligible.  The don't allow players to stay for a 5th year or play in grad school. 

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2020, 11:54:52 AM »
Probably only for teams that have guys returning get the extra spots. 

IE - lets say Theo and Jamal decide to return for a 5th year, and Koby decides to move on.

Marquette then has 15 scholarships for 2021-22 season, not 13. 

Only way to keep the grad transfers in check. 

Or a say Jamal or Theo graduate. Marquette could simply move on as well. It’s a mutual decision.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2020, 02:16:14 PM »
Markus can't come back.

The provision would be for coronavirus, not cancer.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2020, 11:44:11 AM »
Sounds like this a done deal per Goodman.

Guys who stay with their team don't count against scholarship for their 5th year.  If you transfer, it WOULD count against the new schools 13 scholarships.

Will still see a ton of grad transfers.

Seeing as how thin we are up front, Theo staying for a 5th year would certainly be a welcome addition. 
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2020, 11:49:02 AM »
So even if we get a full season in and the player plays a full season, they get an extra year of eligibility? Is it just seniors, or could every player currently in college get an extra year of eligibility (like last year’s spring student athletes)?
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2020, 12:01:06 PM »
So even if we get a full season in and the player plays a full season, they get an extra year of eligibility? Is it just seniors, or could every player currently in college get an extra year of eligibility (like last year’s spring student athletes)?

Sounds like just seniors to me. 
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2020, 12:10:27 PM »
Sounds like just seniors to me. 

No I don't think so.  I think it's everyone.
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Re: Extra year of eligibility for winter athletes?
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2020, 12:36:44 PM »
No I don't think so.  I think it's everyone.

Graduating seniors will be granted a free waiver.

It sounds like the NCAA will be amending it’s transfer with out rule to a one time “free” transfer for all players.

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« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2020, 01:54:43 PM »
No I don't think so.  I think it's everyone.

Where do you see that? 
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