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tower912

Quote from: warriorchick on January 06, 2022, 11:34:37 AM
I actually gave some serious thought to signing up to substitute teach where I live during the school year.  The problem is that you are expected to be available every single school day in case they need you.  If you turn down assignments more than a certain number of times (I don't remember the exact number, but it was relatively small), they drop you from the list.

I have other things going on in my life and I can't be on call every day.  If I could sign up for just the blocks of days where I would be available, I would do it.
I did it for my daughter's elementary school a couple of times.  The logic being that I already went on the field trips and coached a bunch of them, I was really good with them in those roles, how bad could it be?  The experience taught me my limits and increased my appreciation for teachers.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

warriorchick

Quote from: tower912 on January 06, 2022, 11:46:05 AM
I did it for my daughter's elementary school a couple of times.  The logic being that I already went on the field trips and coached a bunch of them, I was really good with them in those roles, how bad could it be?  The experience taught me my limits and increased my appreciation for teachers.

It's probably easier if you have an "in" at a school, which I don't.  My sister volunteered a lot at her kids' elementary school, and she ended up being the first person they would call whenever they needed a sub.

I just think our district needs to make better use of folks like me.  As it is, their teacher shortage is so severe that they are taking the cruise ship approach and recruiting internationally. 
Have some patience, FFS.

Galway Eagle

#952
Quote from: warriorchick on January 06, 2022, 11:34:37 AM
I actually gave some serious thought to signing up to substitute teach where I live during the school year.  The problem is that you are expected to be available every single school day in case they need you.  If you turn down assignments more than a certain number of times (I don't remember the exact number, but it was relatively small), they drop you from the list.

I have other things going on in my life and I can't be on call every day.  If I could sign up for just the blocks of days where I would be available, I would do it.

That's a wonderful thing to have considered. But you see the irony of how you were frustrated at the stupid systems in place just trying to help. Consider how teachers feel rather than just how it effected your experience? There's a million of these stupid bureaucratic bs policies.

(Not pointing at you but at the broader anti teacher sentiment a certain side supports)
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Pakuni on January 06, 2022, 10:48:00 AM
Cops are fleeing the profession and departments are having an extraordinarily difficult time filling open positions. Departments that would get 500 candidates to show up for a testing session five years ago are thrilled if they get 100 today. Nationwide, departments are operating at about 93 percent staffing.
So, the idea that cops are sucking it up while teachers are being babies is provably false.

If you think staffing issues in police departments is due to covid, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: MU82 on January 06, 2022, 11:07:04 AM
Don't forget about the winter of hate, when well over 100+ cops were injured during Trump's violent coup attempt one year ago today.

Are you having a big party today or just immediate family?

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: MU82 on January 06, 2022, 11:07:04 AM
Don't forget about the winter of hate, when well over 100+ cops were injured during Trump's violent coup attempt one year ago today.

Do Portland and Seattle next.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on January 06, 2022, 12:55:12 PM
Are you having a big party today or just immediate family?

Personally?  No party for me but solemn reflection on adequately understanding how things would end after America elected a narcissistic grifter reality TV star.  It's the future and hoping lessons were learned but knowing they weren't.
Guster is for Lovers

Uncle Rico

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on January 06, 2022, 12:53:03 PM
If you think staffing issues in police departments is due to covid, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

I mean, the same can be said about teaching and just about any public servant role
Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on January 06, 2022, 12:53:03 PM
If you think staffing issues in police departments is due to covid, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

But if you sold me your bridge, you'd have nothing to live under.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on January 06, 2022, 12:53:03 PM
If you think staffing issues in police departments is due to covid, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

Oh no, all the cops who can't do racism and assault are leaving!  What a terrible result!

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 06, 2022, 12:58:33 PM
Personally?  No party for me but solemn reflection on adequately understanding how things would end after America elected a narcissistic grifter reality TV star.  It's the future and hoping lessons were learned but knowing they weren't.

Well the Paul brothers announced they're going to run in 2032 so we'll see if we've learned our lesson!
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

jficke13

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on January 06, 2022, 12:57:05 PM
Do Portland and Seattle next.

Ah you see, since this other thing is also bad, the thing that is bad that you are talking about is, in point and fact, NOT bad.

tower912

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on January 06, 2022, 12:55:12 PM
Are you having a big party today or just immediate family?

A moment of mourning, perhaps.    For the shot that fascism took across the bow of democracy.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 06, 2022, 01:09:18 PM
Well the Paul brothers announced they're going to run in 2032 so we'll see if we've learned our lesson!

I suspect the celebrity politician is going to be the new norm and not the outlier moving forward
Guster is for Lovers

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 06, 2022, 01:12:20 PM
I suspect the celebrity politician is going to be the new norm and not the outlier moving forward

Reagan would be proud
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 06, 2022, 01:17:38 PM
Reagan would be proud

He popped into my mind typing that but Reagan was a natural/established politician as much as an actor, especially when he ran for President.  Today's celebrity politician are far less substance and almost 100% style.  That's not a fair assessment of Reagan.

His background was more varied on the political scale as well.  Though hailed in conservative circles, he had a lot of liberal ideals.

It's always humorous to me how his legend as a conservative ideal has grown since his presidency.  His last 4 years were seen as a disappointment to many in the conservative movement, especially his approach to the USSR
Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 06, 2022, 01:46:10 PM
He popped into my mind typing that but Reagan was a natural/established politician as much as an actor, especially when he ran for President.  Today's celebrity politician are far less substance and almost 100% style.  That's not a fair assessment of Reagan.

His background was more varied on the political scale as well.  Though hailed in conservative circles, he had a lot of liberal ideals.

It's always humorous to me how his legend as a conservative ideal has grown since his presidency.  His last 4 years were seen as a disappointment to many in the conservative movement, especially his approach to the USSR

Reagan gave illegal immigrants amnesty, hiked taxes, expanded the federal workforce, supported collective bargaining rights for public workers (air traffic controllers notwithstanding), raised the debt limit 18 times and signed an international treaty to protect the environment.
He'd be labeled a socialist RINO by today's GOP.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on January 06, 2022, 01:57:17 PM
Reagan gave illegal immigrants amnesty, hiked taxes, expanded the federal workforce, supported collective bargaining rights for public workers (air traffic controllers notwithstanding), raised the debt limit 18 times and signed an international treaty to protect the environment.
He'd be labeled a socialist RINO by today's GOP.

Little doubt he would have seen right through Agent Orange as well
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 06, 2022, 02:06:28 PM
Little doubt he would have seen right through Agent Orange as well

Reagan would have joined the Republican leaders who strongly condemned Trump for what happened one year ago today, one of the saddest days in the history of our democratic republic.

And unlike Kevin McCarthy and other Republicans who strongly condemned Trump on 1/6/21 only to quickly capitulate and bend the knee in obvious political calculus, Reagan would have been more like Liz Cheney in continuing to warn Americans about the evils of Trumpism. It would have been interesting to see if Republicans would have canceled Reagan as they have Cheney, one of the most conservative members of Congress.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

jesmu84

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 06, 2022, 11:13:41 AM
Of course there are - some incredibly smart and gifted people still choose teaching. But a whole lot of Uber talented people who didn't have much of a choice now do - that makes the pool from which our teachers come a weaker one.

What does that have to do with how we have marginalized teachers as a country? You think we only started marginalizing them because of the weak pool? Or could it possibly be a weak pool because it's a marginalized profession?

lawdog77

Quote from: Pakuni on January 06, 2022, 01:57:17 PM
Reagan gave illegal immigrants amnesty, hiked taxes, expanded the federal workforce, supported collective bargaining rights for public workers (air traffic controllers notwithstanding), raised the debt limit 18 times and signed an international treaty to protect the environment.
He'd be labeled a socialist RINO by today's GOP.
Here's one site view of where Reagan would fall in the Republican Party spectrum:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/wp/2015/02/25/if-ronald-reagan-ran-today-where-would-he-fall-on-the-conservative-spectrum/

Pakuni

Quote from: lawdog77 on January 06, 2022, 02:40:01 PM
Here's one site view of where Reagan would fall in the Republican Party spectrum:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/wp/2015/02/25/if-ronald-reagan-ran-today-where-would-he-fall-on-the-conservative-spectrum/

Interesting, but that was seven years ago. I'd say the party has changed quite a bit since then.

lawdog77

Quote from: Pakuni on January 06, 2022, 02:55:29 PM
Interesting, but that was seven years ago. I'd say the party has changed quite a bit since then.
I agree with you.
I also honestly think Reagan would have figuratively and literally kicked Trumps ass if he was around to run in 2016.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on January 06, 2022, 01:57:17 PM
Reagan gave illegal immigrants amnesty, hiked taxes, expanded the federal workforce, supported collective bargaining rights for public workers (air traffic controllers notwithstanding), raised the debt limit 18 times and signed an international treaty to protect the environment.
He'd be labeled a socialist RINO by today's GOP.

Oohhhhh this is fun!  Now do Nixon!  He had some pretty socialist ideas about healthcare!

rocket surgeon

So nothing about February 2011 insurrection on Madison, Wisconsin??  Ohhhh, mostly peaceful, just peeing and crapping on the steps...that would be called bio hazardous eyna?  We are seeing within one year where the beliefs of many of you here got us...into a big chit hole that is far from temporary, affecting mostly those who cannot afford to bale out. hitler is blushing down there
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

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