Vaccine/Antibody updates

[Hards Alumni]

Mentioning it after the fact?! Sounds like someone chasing that prestigious vaxx clout 🧐🧐

[Hards Alumni]

Not if he didn't put it on Facebook

With a funky fresh border around a picture of my band-aid arm.

[4everwarriors]

For the past 19 months I've spent the bulk of my workday, 12 inches from people's pie hole. In retrospect I'm not convinced the U.S., from Trump, and now continuing with Biden, responded in the most prudent manner. Blind trust was given to Fauci/Birks to advise us and guide us. Did they have a sure fire plan to negotiate the pandemic. Hell no, only educated guesses. 6 feet, masks...not convinced either is a difference maker.
The vaccine was to be our ticket out of jail...its not. Being vaccinated merely kicks the can down the road a bit. Buy some time. The real answer is in the development of effective therapeutics. Face it, covid is not going away. Learn to live with it. The operative word is...live with it. We have created a society that is fearful and overreactive. Can measurement be made of the economic hardships created or mental illness developed from the stress of life under these conditions and isolation from human interaction? 
Fauci doesn't have the answers and has flip flopped more times than a salmon during spawning season. Its time to put politics and agendas aside. Fauci's 15 minutes of fame is over. But, what the hell do I know? I'm just a fake doctor who didn't earn the degree, hey?

[jesmu84]

No, the partisan hackery is you asking why this matters.

So why does it matter?

[jesmu84]

For the past 19 months I've spent the bulk of my workday, 12 inches from people's pie hole. In retrospect I'm not convinced the U.S., from Trump, and now continuing with Biden, responded in the most prudent manner. Blind trust was given to Fauci/Birks to advise us and guide us. Did they have a sure fire plan to negotiate the pandemic. Hell no, only educated guesses. 6 feet, masks...not convinced either is a difference maker.
The vaccine was to be our ticket out of jail...its not. Being vaccinated merely kicks the can down the road a bit. Buy some time. The real answer is in the development of effective therapeutics. Face it, covid is not going away. Learn to live with it. The operative word is...live with it. We have created a society that is fearful and overreactive. Can measurement be made of the economic hardships created or mental illness developed from the stress of life under these conditions and isolation from human interaction? 
Fauci doesn't have the answers and has flip flopped more times than a salmon during spawning season. Its time to put politics and agendas aside. Fauci's 15 minutes of fame is over. But, what the hell do I know? I'm just a fake doctor who didn't earn the degree, hey?

Okay...

So what's the agenda?

[rocket surgeon]

For the past 19 months I've spent the bulk of my workday, 12 inches from people's pie hole. In retrospect I'm not convinced the U.S., from Trump, and now continuing with Biden, responded in the most prudent manner. Blind trust was given to Fauci/Birks to advise us and guide us. Did they have a sure fire plan to negotiate the pandemic. Hell no, only educated guesses. 6 feet, masks...not convinced either is a difference maker.
The vaccine was to be our ticket out of jail...its not. Being vaccinated merely kicks the can down the road a bit. Buy some time. The real answer is in the development of effective therapeutics. Face it, covid is not going away. Learn to live with it. The operative word is...live with it. We have created a society that is fearful and overreactive. Can measurement be made of the economic hardships created or mental illness developed from the stress of life under these conditions and isolation from human interaction? 
Fauci doesn't have the answers and has flip flopped more times than a salmon during spawning season. Its time to put politics and agendas aside. Fauci's 15 minutes of fame is over. But, what the hell do I know? I'm just a fake doctor who didn't earn the degree, hey?

well said doc-"never let a good crisis go to waste"  we will never get ahead of this unless good old fashioned debate and science is truly followed.  we also need to find out the TRUE origin in order to prevent this from happening again.  yes we know wuhan, but remember when one couldn't even put that on social media.  the censorship and cancellations are going to be our demise.  there have been so many things that have been preached to us as fact that either have been out right lies or have been found to be untrue.  the road toward the truth has been paved with brass tacks and hot coals and dirty underwear

[4everwarriors]

Its very simple. Create an atmosphere of fear and control follows, aina?

[rocket surgeon]

Okay...

So what's the agenda?

seriously?  you don't have a feel for what's going on?  start with power and control.  if you don't sense that...you are either dishonest or you are a follower.  critical thinking has gone out the window

[Uncle Rico]

I haven't laughed this hard in awhile

[pacearrow02]

So why does it matter?

If it doesn't matter why did Fauci lie about it?

[4everwarriors]

Rico Baby, be careful not to pee yourself again, hey?

[rocket surgeon]

I haven't laughed this hard in awhile

he who laughs last...laughs...last


umm...0 for the zero.  if you are being honest, you're part of the problem

[forgetful]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/nih-admits-funding-risky-virus-research-in-wuhan

Vanity Fair, not your run of the mill right wing rag.  Of course officials at NIH say Fauci didn't lie because he didn't know about the findings of the report despite it being sent and reviewed in 2018 and 2020.  Can we finally get this guy to resign and leave us alone at minimum.  Really deserves to be charged and arrested lying under oath to Congress but I'd be fine just letting the old man walk off into the sunset.

I have given up responding to your posts, since you clearly are a troll, but part of this article is interesting to me so I wanted to reply. First, the tone of vanity fair article is stupid. Comes from people that do not understand NIH funding, or the review process. Their tone/arguments are for either: 1. Clicks. 2. Partisan hackery.

To me as a scientist, this actually further clears him of any wrongdoing. And confirms he didn't lie to anyone.

What is interesting is this article again focuses on the "Furin Cleavage site" as some kind of red herring. Comments on the fact that since there was an aim related to a Furin Cleavage Site that this proves wrong doing.

Here is the problem with that, aims have to be based on scientific data and a reasonable hypothesis. Their hypothesis originated from the fact that Furin cleavage sites often naturally occur in coronaviruses, including close relatives of SARS, and in human pathogens. It would raise the question then, as to what does a Furin cleavage site contribute to viral infectivity. That is a testable hypothesis.

But it is rooted in the common natural occurrence of such sites in existing relatives of SARS, which actually reinforces a natural origin of SARS-COV2. Moreover, the article indicates that the US researchers conducting the study reported strains made in Wuhan, or contained in Wuhan. They are all quite distant from actual SARS-COV2. Hence...again, most likely natural origin. The idea of it being manufactured would require either Wuhan, or/both Eco Health hiding massive amounts of lab created strains from the NIH (you would have to have all the intermediates between their strain and the final SARS-COV2). That would be years of data deliberately being hid, while others being included. It frankly makes zero sense. Frankly, it confirms that SARS-COV2 was not related to this study at all.

The other thing this article does is highlight the difficulty in determining if something is "gain of function" research. Testing the role of Furin cleavage sites in coronavirus infectivity is an important question, where the results would be unknown. It could make them far less infectious, or make them more infectious. But the goal isn't to "gain a function" it is to test the evolutionary rule of such sites. So it does not officially qualify as gain of function.

Notably, as a precaution, the funded lab was required to report any new strains that did demonstrate a significant increase in infectivity...this in part is to allow them to reevaluate whether funding should continue, or if it now qualifies as "gain of function" research.

So all these documents released actually do more to clear Fauci, the NIH, and Eco-Health from any wrong doing. It also distracts from anyone actually looking for the origin of SARS-COV2. If by chance it did come from a lab accident, it didn't come from this research, that is pretty clear. But it would be naive to believe that this project was the only SARS related project being done in Wuhan.

Those looking for a lab-accident origin would be better off trying to find that data, instead of pushing this partisan hackery thats sole focus is to attack Fauci for some childish reason. Honestly, the Fauci demonization is one of the most childish and absurd things in politics/media right now.

[jesmu84]

Its very simple. Create an atmosphere of fear and control follows, aina?

Okay...and what control? Social distancing is basically done. There's some mask mandates sprinkled throughout communities. There's some vaccine mandates by private companies and a test/vaccine mandate by the feds.

So what control are you so convinced about? And to what end?

[jesmu84]

seriously?  you don't have a feel for what's going on?  start with power and control.  if you don't sense that...you are either dishonest or you are a follower.  critical thinking has gone out the window

What control? And what will whomever do with that control?

[jesmu84]

If it doesn't matter why did Fauci lie about it?

At this moment in time, why do the origins matter, is what I'm asking?

[rocket surgeon]

At this moment in time, why do the origins matter, is what I'm asking?

once again, are you serious?  you know that thingy about history?  i'll let you take it from there.  if you are still struggling, there might be a few others here who can help ya out, but it has to do with something about repetition and i guess you could throw insanity in there as well

[MUDPT]

For the past 19 months I've spent the bulk of my workday, 12 inches from people's pie hole. In retrospect I'm not convinced the U.S., from Trump, and now continuing with Biden, responded in the most prudent manner. Blind trust was given to Fauci/Birks to advise us and guide us. Did they have a sure fire plan to negotiate the pandemic. Hell no, only educated guesses. 6 feet, masks...not convinced either is a difference maker.
The vaccine was to be our ticket out of jail...its not. Being vaccinated merely kicks the can down the road a bit. Buy some time. The real answer is in the development of effective therapeutics. Face it, covid is not going away. Learn to live with it. The operative word is...live with it. We have created a society that is fearful and overreactive. Can measurement be made of the economic hardships created or mental illness developed from the stress of life under these conditions and isolation from human interaction? 
Fauci doesn't have the answers and has flip flopped more times than a salmon during spawning season. Its time to put politics and agendas aside. Fauci's 15 minutes of fame is over. But, what the hell do I know? I'm just a fake doctor who didn't earn the degree, hey?

I've spent approximately 140 hours within 5 feet of COVID positive patients. Masks do work.

[Uncle Rico]

he who laughs last...laughs...last


umm...0 for the zero.  if you are being honest, you're part of the problem

Ellipses and right wing fear porn.

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[Uncle Rico]

once again, are you serious?  you know that thingy about history?  i'll let you take it from there.  if you are still struggling, there might be a few others here who can help ya out, but it has to do with something about repetition and i guess you could throw insanity in there as well

That reminds me of the 1918 pandemic and learning from history.  It also reminds me of the pandemic response plan put into place under the George W. Bush presidency that was scrapped and gutted by Dear Leader.  Insanity, indeed.

[The Sultan]

The Fox News crowd preaching about "fear and control" is pretty damn funny.

[Uncle Rico]

The Fox News crowd preaching about "fear and control" is pretty damn funny.

Living in fear of fear porn is something else

[TSmith34, Inc.]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/nih-admits-funding-risky-virus-research-in-wuhan

Vanity Fair, not your run of the mill right wing rag.  Of course officials at NIH say Fauci didn't lie because he didn't know about the findings of the report despite it being sent and reviewed in 2018 and 2020.  Can we finally get this guy to resign and leave us alone at minimum.  Really deserves to be charged and arrested lying under oath to Congress but I'd be fine just letting the old man walk off into the sunset.

Emmanuel Goldstein is the root of all our evils.

[tower912]

Doc, I am genuinely depressed and appalled at how a segment of society is choosing willful stupidity, facebook cures over vaccines, owning the libs over living.   This could be all but over right now for America.    A section of society had access to the golden ticket, dropped their drawers and took a huge dump on it.   While pushing snake oil cures they heard about on facebook.    Egged on by the talking head grifters who make their money by 'controlling'  the weak-minded's fear.    And those who repeat those lies.   

  I mentioned a few weeks ago that a patient cursed at me when I asked if he was vaccinated.    What I didn't add is that I ended up doing CPR on him 10 minutes later and that he died.    Two of his last 10 words on the planet were F you.   His last were 'I'm scared' as we loaded him in the ambulance.      He isn't the first COVID patient I have done CPR on.    He is the first one to swear at me.   

He showed me.     

This didn't have to happen.   This could be all but over in America.   Choose to end it. 

[The Sultan]

Doc, I am genuinely depressed and appalled at how a segment of society is choosing willful stupidity, facebook cures over vaccines, owning the libs over living.   This could be all but over right now for America.    A section of society had access to the golden ticket, dropped their drawers and took a huge dump on it.   While pushing snake oil cures they heard about on facebook.    Egged on by the talking head grifters who make their money by 'controlling'  the weak-minded's fear.    And those who repeat those lies.   

  I mentioned a few weeks ago that a patient cursed at me when I asked if he was vaccinated.    What I didn't add is that I ended up doing CPR on him 10 minutes later and that he died.    Two of his last 10 words on the planet were F you.   His last were 'I'm scared' as we loaded him in the ambulance.      He isn't the first COVID patient I have done CPR on.    He is the first one to swear at me.   

He showed me.     

This didn't have to happen.   This could be all but over in America.   Choose to end it. 

Grifters and snake oil salesmen. Even medical professionals here aren't immune to their charms.