Vaccine/Antibody updates

[jesmu84]

I'm sure it'll be free/reasonably priced too

[#UnleashSean]

I'm sure it'll be free/reasonably priced too

Have some faith brother. The polio vaccine was.

[jesmu84]

Have some faith brother. The polio vaccine was.

Sure. But how long ago was that? And how different is the pharma industry now from those days?

[forgetful]

Have some faith brother. The polio vaccine was.

That's because the scientists the created it refused any patent rights, saying it belonged to the people.

That ain't happening here, which is why all these big companies are racing to be first.

[warriorchick]

That's because the scientists the created it refused any patent rights, saying it belonged to the people.

That ain't happening here, which is why all these big companies are racing to be first.

The fact that Pharma companies are racing to be first is also why there will be a vaccine way quicker than if we just let the government try to figure it out - or if there was no profit involved.

[forgetful]

The fact that Pharma companies are racing to be first is also why there will be a vaccine way quicker than if we just let the government try to figure it out - or if there was no profit involved.

The government is the one paying all the companies to do this right now. So not sure your point is true. Most of the technology they are all using was also paid for with government money.

[pbiflyer]

The government is the one paying all the companies to do this right now. So not sure your point is true. Most of the technology they are all using was also paid for with government money.

Socialize the expense, capitalize the profit.

[tower912]

Blood thinners.

[injuryBug]

Blood thinners.

interesting was it not said early on to avoid them as they make it worse?

[tower912]

https://news.yahoo.com/blood-thinners-could-help-coronavirus-142158406.html

Clotting is a symptom in some more extreme cases.   

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

interesting was it not said early on to avoid them as they make it worse?

I thought ibuprofen was I'd earlier.  I think disproved but not certain.  I didn't see blood thinners listed as something that made it worse. 

[injuryBug]

I thought ibuprofen was I'd earlier.  I think disproved but not certain.  I didn't see blood thinners listed as something that made it worse.

i guess that is what i was thinking of.  People just need to be smart and not rush things.  Each day we find out more and more about this virus and will be able to help more and more people just need to give it some time

[The Sultan]

Excellent news

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/health/coronavirus-antibody-prevalence.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytnational

[JWags85]

Any recommendations on where to get an antibody test in SE WI? My father had some COVID-like symptoms early in 2020 after Asian travel. Could be a coincidence, but given what's come out about the timeline of COVID stretching back into 2019, it makes sense to look into it.

[GooooMarquette]

Any recommendations on where to get an antibody test in SE WI? My father had some COVID-like symptoms early in 2020 after Asian travel. Could be a coincidence, but given what's come out about the timeline of COVID stretching back into 2019, it makes sense to look into it.

Don't know for sure, but I'd suggest contacting one of the hospitals associated with MCW, like maybe Froedtert. I know they are participating in the national study that is treating people with convalescent plasma, so they might be a reasonable place to start.

[Hards Alumni]

Don't know for sure, but I'd suggest contacting one of the hospitals associated with MCW, like maybe Froedtert. I know they are participating in the national study that is treating people with convalescent plasma, so they might be a reasonable place to start.

^ that

[#UnleashSean]

Any recommendations on where to get an antibody test in SE WI? My father had some COVID-like symptoms early in 2020 after Asian travel. Could be a coincidence, but given what's come out about the timeline of COVID stretching back into 2019, it makes sense to look into it.

Got mine at uw Madison before kidney transplant

[JWags85]

Don't know for sure, but I'd suggest contacting one of the hospitals associated with MCW, like maybe Froedtert. I know they are participating in the national study that is treating people with convalescent plasma, so they might be a reasonable place to start.

Appreciated. Will let him know

[mu_hilltopper]

Any recommendations on where to get an antibody test in SE WI? My father had some COVID-like symptoms early in 2020 after Asian travel. Could be a coincidence, but given what's come out about the timeline of COVID stretching back into 2019, it makes sense to look into it.

https://www.arcpointlabs.com/covid-19-antibody-testing/


https://www.questdiagnostics.com/home/Covid-19/

[forgetful]

Why I'm not buying Gilead on the Remdesivir news:

Early on I had posted that Remdesivir was the most likely drug to work against SARS. But the problem with Remdesivir, is the same problem it had with Ebola. It works, but not great. It got pushed aside in the Ebola pandemic, because monoclonal antibodies proved to be far more effective in treatment.

I think that is the same fate for SARS. It is going to be a hold-over treatment until monoclonal antibodies come on line in September-November window. Then it will be pushed aside and placed back on the shelves.

The window of time it can be monetized is very narrow.

[tower912]

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/05/12/coronavirus-nanobio-protect-nasal-antiseptic-bluewillow-biologics/5175988002/

My gut says hokum, but there is just enough there to intrigue me. 

[forgetful]

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/05/12/coronavirus-nanobio-protect-nasal-antiseptic-bluewillow-biologics/5175988002/

My gut says hokum, but there is just enough there to intrigue me.

I just don't see the benefit. It isn't going to stop infection. It may be mildly unsafe.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Then there is this story. 
If there was a real pandemic response team the'd be sourcing these items now (or a workable replacement) and putting in stock.



The 'biggest challenge' won't come until after a coronavirus vaccine is found
The nation's supply chain isn't anywhere close to ready.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/11/coronavirus-vaccine-supply-shortages-245450

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Then there is this story. 
If there was a real pandemic response team the'd be sourcing these items now (or a workable replacement) and putting in stock.



The 'biggest challenge' won't come until after a coronavirus vaccine is found
The nation's supply chain isn't anywhere close to ready.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/11/coronavirus-vaccine-supply-shortages-245450

Trump said he can get the team back very quickly.  Also, there is no need for them when you have Jared and his crack team of volunteers.

[mu_hilltopper]

Then there is this story. 
If there was a real pandemic response team the'd be sourcing these items now (or a workable replacement) and putting in stock.



The 'biggest challenge' won't come until after a coronavirus vaccine is found
The nation's supply chain isn't anywhere close to ready.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/11/coronavirus-vaccine-supply-shortages-245450

I'd read that yesterday .. this is not rocket science.  The world will need several billion doses of the vaccine.   


If someone isn't working on getting several billion vials, rubber stoppers and syringes .. that would be absolute insanity. 


The hard part is the vaccine.  Rubber stoppers better be easy in comparison, or we're in a world of hurt.