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muguru

Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 16, 2020, 10:32:25 AM
Very true.  I suspect this is a function of knowing they almost never get the ball.  All basketball players want to shoot/score. 

Thought last night was one of our best games, due to better sharing of the ball and getting bigs involved.  It's good for morale, and keeps bigs engaged.

Actually it was one of their best games because they played fast...like they are supposed to be doing. Their transition game was on point last night. THAT is how Wojo's offense is supposed to look. You look at the numbers, they are one of the best transition teams in the country...so why they haven't been playing that way more...is anyone's guess. Amazing what happens when you actually go back to doing what you were built to do all along.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

BM1090

Quote from: muguru on January 16, 2020, 11:42:45 AM
Actually it was one of their best games because they played fast...like they are supposed to be doing. Their transition game was on point last night. THAT is how Wojo's offense is supposed to look. You look at the numbers, they are one of the best transition teams in the country...so why they haven't been playing that way more...is anyone's guess. Amazing what happens when you actually go back to doing what you were built to do all along.

Because they don't force many turnovers, so it's tough to get into transition.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 16, 2020, 07:30:29 AM
In rhythm. No one close. Good shot.
If you like a 21% chance (generously) to make it, sure.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

MU82

Quote from: muguru on January 16, 2020, 11:42:45 AM
Actually it was one of their best games because they played fast...like they are supposed to be doing. Their transition game was on point last night. THAT is how Wojo's offense is supposed to look. You look at the numbers, they are one of the best transition teams in the country...so why they haven't been playing that way more...is anyone's guess. Amazing what happens when you actually go back to doing what you were built to do all along.

I like when we play fast (but in control), also. We have several guards/wings who are pretty darn good when we get on a roll like that, and even our bigs run the floor quite well.

The problem is we force very few live-ball turnovers, so we don't get those easy run-and-gun points. Also, we often are a little loose with the ball ourselves, so we waste some of the opportunities we do get.

Also, sometimes the other team does deserve credit, you know. They have good coaches and fine athletes and smart players, too. Sometimes, the opponent is playing so well -- taking care of the ball, grabbing some offensive rebounds, making shots -- that it's difficult for us to play fast. It happens.

There probably were Nova fans wondering why they didn't do this or that against us. Maybe part of the reason was we didn't let them.

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The Sultan

Quote from: We R Final Four on January 16, 2020, 10:52:36 AM
Would EM taking an open 3 within the rhythm of the offense been a good shot?

No
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

We R Final Four

Me either.....and I suspect the % wouldn't increase much for EM when moving 4' closer.

BubbaWilliams

I heard he's on vacation. The guy loves to travel...
"Marquette is so good defensively, they steal your mouth guards."

MU82

Quote from: BubbaWilliams on January 16, 2020, 12:13:23 PM
I heard he's on vacation. The guy loves to travel...

I laughed.

And teal was unnecessary.
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: tower912 on January 16, 2020, 11:14:27 AM
I hope he is able to return.  The team is better with him.

Agreed.  The fact that they've left it open ended would seem he didn't burn all bridges on his way out.  But Wojo comment on it in the post gamer was fairly telling - he basically just said "No idea if we'll get him back.  We'll have to play by ear."  He clearly wasn't interested in discussing it, and Markus body language when the question was asked was also telling.  He immediately dropped his head and looked down at the stat sheet. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 16, 2020, 12:26:36 PM
Agreed.  The fact that they've left it open ended would seem he didn't burn all bridges on his way out.  But Wojo comment on it in the post gamer was fairly telling - he basically just said "No idea if we'll get him back.  We'll have to play by ear."  He clearly wasn't interested in discussing it, and Markus body language when the question was asked was also telling.  He immediately dropped his head and looked down at the stat sheet.

He then left in the middle.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 16, 2020, 12:27:50 PM
He then left in the middle.

I don't think that had anything to do with Ed, or being upset or anything.  I think Markus probably just felt his questions were done and wanted to get back with his teammates. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

lawdog77

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 16, 2020, 12:29:30 PM
I don't think that had anything to do with Ed, or being upset or anything.  I think Markus probably just felt his questions were done and wanted to get back with his teammates.
sacar did that last year in a presser, I think. Post game therapy, I would guess.

Jay Bee

Has anyone obtained a copy of the letter yet?

For me, Ed was an x-factor to this season. Had the ability to push this team up a notch. Didn't pan out. The turnovers - especially the traveling - was borderline bizarre tbh.

I do hope he comes back and does well.
The portal is NOT closed.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Jay Bee on January 16, 2020, 12:36:22 PM
Has anyone obtained a copy of the letter yet?

For me, Ed was an x-factor to this season. Had the ability to push this team up a notch. Didn't pan out. The turnovers - especially the traveling - was borderline bizarre tbh.

I do hope he comes back and does well.

Agreed. He brought a ton of intensity on the defensive end. It seemed his focus was waning and definitely was not as sure of himself this year from appearances. I hope he returns to teh team with renewed focus.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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PuertoRicanNightmare

Three of our top 6 rotation guys from last year have just got up and walked away.

CountryRoads

Not sure I buy the "we're better with Ed" narrative. It's the safe thing to say at this point, but I don't think it's necessarily true. Imo, the ideal number of guys in a rotation is 8 which is what we had last night. I just don't think depth equals better, in this case anyway.

Jay Bee

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 16, 2020, 12:42:12 PM
Three of our top 6 rotation guys from last year have just got up and walked away.

Charty played more than Morrow last year.
The portal is NOT closed.

TheyWereCones

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 16, 2020, 12:27:50 PM
He then left in the middle.

Yeah but I don't think this had anything to do with anything relevant.  It looked like someone off camera was talking to him or asked him a question, because he looked like he turned to that person and was like, "Right now?"  As in he was being asked to go somewhere right then by whoever that was.  Then he grabbed his stuff and left as if he was told it's time.  I wouldn't read into it at all.
Those could have been guests at her wedding.

muguru

I think it's safe to say he thought(or was told more likely) he would be playing the 4 this year, as he worked on his jump shot all summer long, and there were even videos of him in practice before the season started taking and hitting deep 3's with good form etc.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Goose

Maybe he just wanted to free up a few more shots for Markus.

MU82

Quote from: AirPunch on January 16, 2020, 12:43:18 PM
Not sure I buy the "we're better with Ed" narrative. It's the safe thing to say at this point, but I don't think it's necessarily true. Imo, the ideal number of guys in a rotation is 8 which is what we had last night. I just don't think depth equals better, in this case anyway.

Just having the extra big body and fouls available is a plus. It's especially so at a position with guys who tend to be foul-prone. If such a player is willing to wait for his number to be called, rather than get upset at lack of PT, it's a big bonus to have that person available. There already have been four games in which both Theo and Jayce have both had 3+ fouls, including a combined 9 fouls vs Davidson, and that was with a third option able to play double-digit minutes. Against USC, Jayce and Morrow fouled out and Theo had 4. As long as team chemistry isn't affected, it never hurts to have more bigs available.

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 16, 2020, 12:42:12 PM
Three of our top 6 rotation guys from last year have just got up and walked away.

Morrow was 7th in minutes played, and was only a few minutes ahead of Bailey, who clearly has surpassed him in importance.
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BCHoopster

Quote from: MU82 on January 16, 2020, 01:07:51 PM
Just having the extra big body and fouls available is a plus. It's especially so at a position with guys who tend to be foul-prone. If such a player is willing to wait for his number to be called, rather than get upset at lack of PT, it's a big bonus to have that person available. There already have been four games in which both Theo and Jayce have both had 3+ fouls, including a combined 9 fouls vs Davidson, and that was with a third option able to play double-digit minutes. Against USC, Jayce and Morrow fouled out and Theo had 4. As long as team chemistry isn't affected, it never hurts to have more bigs available.

Morrow was 7th in minutes played, and was only a few minutes ahead of Bailey, who clearly has surpassed him in importance.

Just maybe, Wojo might think of playing zone, lets say 5 minutes a game, to hide the centers.  Providence played a zone against St. Johns, why, because they can not
shot the ball, should have played it against X, they can not shoot the ball either. 

onepost

Quote from: Goose on January 16, 2020, 01:06:51 PM
Maybe he just wanted to free up a few more shots for Markus.

Would still love for you to explain Ed Morrow's "high basketball IQ" since I'm completely confused by that notion.

Goose

onepost

I have little interest in having interaction with you on any basketball related topic. I find you to be combative and generally lacking in understanding the game. Best of luck to you!!

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

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