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« Reply #3400 on: January 11, 2024, 08:47:22 AM »
Do some people spend irresponsibly? Yes.

Have wages lagged significantly behind productivity and inflation throughout the last 40 years? Also yes.

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« Reply #3401 on: January 11, 2024, 10:28:46 AM »
Do some people spend irresponsibly? Yes.

Have wages lagged significantly behind productivity and inflation throughout the last 40 years? Also yes.

I watched this the other day. It touches a lot of what you and I mention here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sj-8pjt9Xk&t=624s
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« Reply #3402 on: January 11, 2024, 12:05:37 PM »
For those inclined to take a high risk high reward play, I've been heavily invested in SAVA since 2019, and it has been through the ringer with short hedge funds throwing the kitchen sink at it..they are fully enrolled in their Phase 3 Alzheimer's trial and I feel their Phase 3 will be successful and result in massive valuation.

You can buy warrants currently for $6.75/share at SAVAW or regular shares at SAVA for $26.  Warrants have a 1.5 share bonus, if you exercise for shares that would equate to a $22 cost basis.  Warrants exercise at $33/share.  You can read more on the Cassava Sciences website Investor Relations.

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« Reply #3403 on: January 12, 2024, 09:43:20 PM »
Memo to Scoop Dividend Investors:

Estimated Taxes Due January 16

For those of you that had a lot of dividends and didn't withhold, pay 110% of last years taxes paid by January 16 for safe harbor from penalties.



 
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« Reply #3404 on: January 20, 2024, 09:53:27 AM »
Greedflation.   Get used to hearing the term.
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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« Reply #3405 on: January 20, 2024, 10:01:04 AM »
Greedflation.   Get used to hearing the term.
Corporations pass through costs, in order to maintain profitability. Public Pension funds own vast pools of Corporate Equity and require returns in order satisfy the obligation they have to Pensioners.

Public Employees have mandatory inflation adjustments in their Pensions. What is the term for that?
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« Reply #3406 on: January 20, 2024, 10:06:32 AM »
Quality negotiating.

Studies are out and more are coming that show a significant portion of the 2022 inflation was due to greedflation.    I appreciate your rapid response indicating what the corporate defense will be.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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« Reply #3407 on: January 20, 2024, 10:08:17 AM »

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« Reply #3408 on: January 20, 2024, 10:14:23 AM »
Among others.  But I have been referencing it since July.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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« Reply #3409 on: January 20, 2024, 11:24:48 AM »
Corporations pass through costs, in order to maintain profitability. Public Pension funds own vast pools of Corporate Equity and require returns in order satisfy the obligation they have to Pensioners.

Public Employees have mandatory inflation adjustments in their Pensions. What is the term for that?

LOL

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« Reply #3410 on: January 20, 2024, 04:35:53 PM »
Im not sure exactly what point that’s trying to make

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« Reply #3411 on: January 20, 2024, 05:11:41 PM »
Im not sure exactly what point that’s trying to make

Public pensions are to blame for corporate profiteering, stock buybacks, mass layoffs, inflation and economic collapse?

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« Reply #3412 on: January 20, 2024, 05:12:26 PM »
Easy red herring deflection.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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« Reply #3413 on: January 20, 2024, 05:35:02 PM »
Quality negotiating.

Studies are out and more are coming that show a significant portion of the 2022 inflation was due to greedflation.    I appreciate your rapid response indicating what the corporate defense will be.
In order to retain employees, wages have risen. Those are permanent increases . Employees don't go backward in wages once raises are made.  Material costs have risen and combined with labor there is an inflationary cost spiral. Corporations need to sell their products and services at greater than the cost to produce.

From 2017 up until Covid shutdown in 2020 we had an excellent economic environment . Low inflation, Real wage and GDP growth with low interest . Was a winning scenario for Corporations , Their  Customers , Consumers , Employees, Pensioners,Homeowners and  Renters.

 
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« Reply #3414 on: January 20, 2024, 05:45:37 PM »
Public pensions are to blame for corporate profiteering, stock buybacks, mass layoffs, inflation and economic collapse?

Mass layoffs? Economic collapse? lol

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« Reply #3415 on: January 20, 2024, 06:31:05 PM »
In order to retain employees, wages have risen. Those are permanent increases . Employees don't go backward in wages once raises are made.  Material costs have risen and combined with labor there is an inflationary cost spiral. Corporations need to sell their products and services at greater than the cost to produce.

From 2017 up until Covid shutdown in 2020 we had an excellent economic environment . Low inflation, Real wage and GDP growth with low interest . Was a winning scenario for Corporations , Their  Customers , Consumers , Employees, Pensioners,Homeowners and  Renters.



Wages lag significantly from where they should be
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« Reply #3416 on: January 20, 2024, 06:33:51 PM »
Mass layoffs? Economic collapse? lol

I just assumed herman was blaming them for everything bad in the US economy

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« Reply #3417 on: January 20, 2024, 06:38:25 PM »


Wages lag significantly from where they should be


Why should employers pay more if they are more productive paying relatively less?
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« Reply #3418 on: January 20, 2024, 06:42:51 PM »

Why should employers pay more if they are more productive paying relatively less?

Because we want a stable society?

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« Reply #3419 on: January 20, 2024, 06:50:26 PM »
The core issue at work in greedflation is the same as wage lag - consolidation and lack of competition.  You can't run an economy on good feels and hoping businesses make less profit to pass on savings to customers or pay employees more.  They have to be forced to do those things through competition.  And its generally natural market forces that lead to that consolidation, so I'm not exactly sure what you do about it without 20x-ing the size of the SEC and turning it into an organization that makes Republicans' worst characterization of the IRS blush.

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« Reply #3420 on: January 20, 2024, 06:52:21 PM »
The core issue at work in greedflation is the same as wage lag - consolidation and lack of competition.  You can't run an economy on good feels and hoping businesses make less profit to pass on savings to customers or pay employees more.  They have to be forced to do those things through competition.  And its generally natural market forces that lead to that consolidation, so I'm not exactly sure what you do about it without 20x-ing the size of the SEC and turning it into an organization that makes Republican's worst boogeymanning of the IRS blush.

Good post burrow.

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« Reply #3421 on: January 20, 2024, 07:01:02 PM »
The core issue at work in greedflation is the same as wage lag - consolidation and lack of competition.  You can't run an economy on good feels and hoping businesses make less profit to pass on savings to customers or pay employees more.  They have to be forced to do those things through competition.  And its generally natural market forces that lead to that consolidation, so I'm not exactly sure what you do about it without 20x-ing the size of the SEC and turning it into an organization that makes Republicans' worst characterization of the IRS blush.

Completely fair.    But it does need to be reported.   
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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« Reply #3422 on: January 20, 2024, 07:58:34 PM »


Wages lag significantly from where they should be
This graph reflects what has hapoened in the world.

The advances in technology have made automation possible in domestic production. For example in the pre 1980 era , Companies had very large typing and clerical pools . Similar things have happened in industrial production with automated machinery and equipment. Further many companies sent their production off shore.

Consumers are enjoying the benefit of an increased standard of living as a result of the low priced goods available at Walmart , Target , Costco etc

We have a medical system the envy of the world .

Our domestic technology industry is without peer and we are at the beginning of a new frontier of AI based productivity in many fields

Zoning policies and decades of low interest have fueled the growth in real estate values . Homeowners have been direct beneficiaries

Yes there is inflation. However , there is plenty of excess capacity and innovation that will impact price levels .



 

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« Reply #3423 on: January 20, 2024, 08:17:45 PM »
I’m tired of winning over the last three years.

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« Reply #3424 on: January 20, 2024, 08:31:26 PM »
In order to retain employees, wages have risen. Those are permanent increases . Employees don't go backward in wages once raises are made.  Material costs have risen and combined with labor there is an inflationary cost spiral. Corporations need to sell their products and services at greater than the cost to produce.

From 2017 up until Covid shutdown in 2020 we had an excellent economic environment . Low inflation, Real wage and GDP growth with low interest . Was a winning scenario for Corporations , Their  Customers , Consumers , Employees, Pensioners,Homeowners and  Renters.

  many have short memories-people made on average up to $5k more.  less regulation, lower taxes, median household incomes hit all time high~$66k people could afford stuff, then covid hit
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