Well that was a waste

[The Sultan]

He's not interested in intellectual debate. Lacks the capability.

It's so cute that you are now as obsessed with me as you are with Chico's. Did you break up with him?

[Lennys Tap]

It's so cute that you are now as obsessed with me as you are with Chico's. Did you break up with him?

Wow.

Officially occupying a place in Sultan's brain. Very small space. not much room.

[TallTitan34]

Also consider there are other sports (soccer, volleyball, lacrosse, etc.) that rely on the revenue men's basketball brings in.

[Cheeks]

It would devastate.  Coaches are right.  Encourage cheating, damage smaller programs, just beyond dumb.

https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/NCAA-coaches-loudly-speaking-out-on-potential-transfer-rule--107036402/

[Uncle Rico]

In your scenario I would gather at least 30 to 50 D1 schools would say they are out, drop down to D2.  My opinion only.  That would reduce D1 opportunities for 360 to 600 kids in basketball alone.  Thousands more in other sports.  Do you care about those kids?

Why would any school bother to put the effort, money, etc into developing their program if kids bail on that investment?  Why would fans invest their time and money into the product?  This isn't pro sports, but even there contracts prevent what you are advocating for.  Someone doesn't like playing for the Brewers, they cannot just leave to play for the Reds at the end of the season Willy nilly.  Not unless they are an unrestricted free agent.  A student athlete agrees to a "contract" in exchange for their free education and grant in aid.  Part of leaving is sitting out a year.

The rich would get richer.  Plug and play with kids.  Hell, poach off mid level Big East, Big Ten, SEC teams to the top teams.  A disaster for college basketball.

Make your program better and they won't leave. 

[The Sultan]

It would devastate.  Coaches are right.  Encourage cheating, damage smaller programs, just beyond dumb.

https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/NCAA-coaches-loudly-speaking-out-on-potential-transfer-rule--107036402/

"People who have vested interest in status quo make dire predictions should status quo change." 

<yawn>

[Uncle Rico]

"People who have vested interest in status quo make dire predictions should status quo change." 

<yawn>

Further proof coaches and programs don't actually care about their players but their own hides and the dollars the kids make them

[Billy Hoyle]

I agree with Chicos. If you have no penalties on transfers you will destroy college basketball.

I do agree though that players on teams that receive a post season should be free to transfer without sitting out a year.

That's already the rule when there's a ban. The problem for Ga Tech kids is the timing. School has already started, they can't go anywhere and play this year.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

That's already the rule when there's a ban. The problem for Ga Tech kids is the timing. School has already started, they can't go anywhere and play this year.

Are they allowed to leave 2nd semester and play right away?

[TallTitan34]

That's already the rule when there's a ban. The problem for Ga Tech kids is the timing. School has already started, they can't go anywhere and play this year.

Oh I didn't realize they already have that rule. That pleases me.

That's does suck though that school has started. The NCAA should issue these penalties in April.

[Cheeks]

Also consider there are other sports (soccer, volleyball, lacrosse, etc.) that rely on the revenue men's basketball brings in.

Yup.

[Cheeks]

Make your program better and they won't leave.

So simple.  Simple statements on bumper stickers, what could go wrong. 

[Uncle Rico]

So simple.  Simple statements on bumper stickers, what could go wrong.

You fail to make your program better?

[Cheeks]

"People who have vested interest in status quo make dire predictions should status quo change." 

<yawn>

Further proof that short term thinking has long term consequences that impact many people.  Examples are endless of "really swell ideas" that cost people their lives, livelihoods and opportunities because people didn't think them through before they unleashed the changes.

[The Sultan]

Further proof that short term thinking has long term consequences that impact many people.  Examples are endless of "really swell ideas" that cost people their lives, livelihoods and opportunities because people didn't think them through before they unleashed the changes.

OMG really?  We are talking about college kids transferring. Not starting a war in Iraq.

But I guess when your argument sucks you have to resort to the absurd.

[Uncle Rico]

Further proof that short term thinking has long term consequences that impact many people.  Examples are endless of "really swell ideas" that cost people their lives, livelihoods and opportunities because people didn't think them through before they unleashed the changes.

If anyone dies because student athletes get paid for their likeness, that will be incredibly sad.

Free agency will kill professional sports.  Unlimited TV exposure will kill live attendance figures. 

Here's an idea, if opportunities dry up for student athletes because terrible programs fold up or drop a level, increase scholarship numbers for those that continue on.  Wait, the NCAA capped those and already eliminated opportunities.

[Pakuni]

OMG really?  We are talking about college kids transferring. Not starting a war in Iraq.

But I guess when your argument sucks you have to resort to the absurd.

If kids are allowed to profit of their likeness, schools will have no choice but to take the nonrevenue athletes out back and shoot them.

[Cheeks]

OMG really?  We are talking about college kids transferring. Not starting a war in Iraq.

But I guess when your argument sucks you have to resort to the absurd.

My argument doesn't suck.  It's why this is the rule across the country for college basketball.  You may want to stick to D2 or D3 or whatever norby's is....probably more your speed.

[🏀]

I don't think transfers should be able to move freely whenever they want without sitting, but I think that would be a benefit to Marquette as a program if allowed.

[Billy Hoyle]

I don't think transfers should be able to move freely whenever they want without sitting, but I think that would be a benefit to Marquette as a program if allowed.

I supported immediate eligibility with a minimum GPA, but people like Bilas, Goodman, et al helped kill that.

[Cheeks]

I don't think transfers should be able to move freely whenever they want without sitting, but I think that would be a benefit to Marquette as a program if allowed.

Why?  We have been to one Final Four in 30 years.  The programs that are perennial powers would be able to pluck whenever they want for a chance at the ring.  1st tier would pull from 2nd tier, 2nd tier f my 3rd tier, and so on and so on.

[The Sultan]

My argument doesn't suck.  It's why this is the rule across the country for college basketball. 

No the rule was made by those in power to keep the status quo.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Currently, for every 1 player transferring up in competition, there are 3 or 4 transferring down. I think the mid-majors would be fine.

[Cheeks]

Currently, for every 1 player transferring up in competition, there are 3 or 4 transferring down. I think the mid-majors would be fine.

Why do the mid major coaches disagree?

[MU82]

Coaches leave for greener pastures all the time. Never have to sit out a year. just get richer and richer and richer. Buyout clauses are a joke.

Players? They are under "contract" and locked in. "That 18-year-old knew exactly what he was doing. Screw him! And no, his likeness belongs to somebody else, too!"