Well that was a waste

[brewcity77]

Yes, but what does that have to do with this Federal Judge denying the NCAA access to evidence?  That is what I was commenting on as not the NCAA's fault.

They seem to have lied about overpromising. From the article:

The NCAA had held off on investigations, he said, at the request of the government until the trials were concluded.

"So now that's it over, we're going to be moving forward with a number of Level I cases that will help people realize that, 'Yeah, the enforcement staff was in a position to move forward,'" Wilcox said.

Whether they didn't have the authority or ability to get what they needed to assure compliance, this is a failure on their part. Clearly the enforcement staff wasn't in a position to move forward. Don't assert you're ready to start swinging when you don't even have your stick yet.

[NorthernDancerColt]

They seem to have lied about overpromising. From the article:

The NCAA had held off on investigations, he said, at the request of the government until the trials were concluded.

"So now that's it over, we're going to be moving forward with a number of Level I cases that will help people realize that, 'Yeah, the enforcement staff was in a position to move forward,'" Wilcox said.

Whether they didn't have the authority or ability to get what they needed to assure compliance, this is a failure on their part. Clearly the enforcement staff wasn't in a position to move forward. Don't assert you're ready to start swinging when you don't even have your stick yet.

The whole thing is a giant charade. Again, the world is but a stage. Smoke n mirrors from the NCAA. Frankly, we are all culpable for buying into this sham. I would love a Nick Nolte BlueChips moment that will never come. Nothing in the world worse than hypocrisy. Pay the players already and truly level the playing field. Enough of the masquerade. Ironically, our own Markus is exhibit A that a kid can embrace college and all it encompasses and yet excel at the very top of the game. When he graduates, there should be a goddamn statue of him outside the AL.

[Uncle Rico]

Death to the NCAA

[MUCam]

This decision is so much bigger than the NCAA. The federal government and its law enforcement agencies have a vested interest in not allowing any third party from simply obtaining their records and the information obtained in criminal investigations, whether it is the Humane Society, the Church of Scientology, or the NCAA.

This legal battle was fought on a battle field far away from corruption in college athletics.

[Silent Verbal]

So does this mean Mannion is coming to Marquette now, hey?

[Uncle Rico]

So does this mean Mannion is coming to Marquette now, hey?

And Sean Miller will be at Arizona getting top recruits for the foreseeable future.  NCAA is an abject failure

[The Sultan]

This decision is so much bigger than the NCAA. The federal government and its law enforcement agencies have a vested interest in not allowing any third party from simply obtaining their records and the information obtained in criminal investigations, whether it is the Humane Society, the Church of Scientology, or the NCAA.

This legal battle was fought on a battle field far away from corruption in college athletics.

And the legal "battle" wasn't much of one and ended up to be a waste of time.

[Loose Cannon]

Death to the NCAA

Slim Chance.  Tarn had the NCAA's number years ago, some of us are in the process of catching up.

[Cheeks]

The whole thing is a giant charade. Again, the world is but a stage. Smoke n mirrors from the NCAA. Frankly, we are all culpable for buying into this sham. I would love a Nick Nolte BlueChips moment that will never come. Nothing in the world worse than hypocrisy. Pay the players already and truly level the playing field. Enough of the masquerade. Ironically, our own Markus is exhibit A that a kid can embrace college and all it encompasses and yet excel at the very top of the game. When he graduates, there should be a goddamn statue of him outside the AL.

The charade and sham is believing if you pay it will level the playing field.  That is beyond delusional.

[Jon]

...it's a film flam organization.

[wadesworld]

The charade and sham is believing if you pay it will level the playing field.  That is beyond delusional.

Players are already being paid...

[Cheeks]

They seem to have lied about overpromising. From the article:

The NCAA had held off on investigations, he said, at the request of the government until the trials were concluded.

"So now that's it over, we're going to be moving forward with a number of Level I cases that will help people realize that, 'Yeah, the enforcement staff was in a position to move forward,'" Wilcox said.

Whether they didn't have the authority or ability to get what they needed to assure compliance, this is a failure on their part. Clearly the enforcement staff wasn't in a position to move forward. Don't assert you're ready to start swinging when you don't even have your stick yet.

Let's see how it shakes out, Summer isn't over.

[Cheeks]

Players are already being paid...

True, they all have scholarships and enormous value they receive.


Yes, SOME are being paid illegally....SOME.


And then we have all those that aren't, in every sport......

[Dr. Blackheart]

True, they all have scholarships and enormous value they receive.

Rashad McCants disagrees.

#flimflam

[Uncle Rico]

True, they all have scholarships and enormous value they receive.


Yes, SOME are being paid illegally....SOME.


And then we have all those that aren't, in every sport......

Suckers

[Cheeks]

Rashad McCants disagrees.

#flimflam

That's nice....I hear he is tearing it up in the Big 3 league....

[Shooter McGavin]

https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status/1169030116841836546?s=21

Why is the NCAA a sham based on this tweet?   How did they lie?   Because a judge won't give them access to findings in an FBI investigation?  Seems to be an over reaction.  Maybe it can be said they don't have enough teeth but not seeing "sham" based off the information provided.

[The Sultan]

Why is the NCAA a sham based on this tweet?   How did they lie?   Because a judge won't give them access to findings in an FBI investigation?  Seems to be an over reaction.  Maybe it can be said they don't have enough teeth but not seeing "sham" based off the information provided.

I never stated that.  I stated that the federal investigation was a waste based on that tweet.

[Shooter McGavin]

Gotcha.  But many of the following posts seem to imply its the NCAA fault they didn't get access to the information and it is a sham organization.

[Boozemon Barro]

Deregulate it all. Let each university decide how much they want to compensate each individual player in every sport. It's the most fair option.

[Uncle Rico]

Gotcha.  But many of the following posts seem to imply its the NCAA fault they didn't get access to the information and it is a sham organization.

It is a sham organization.

[Pakuni]

Gotcha.  But many of the following posts seem to imply its the NCAA fault they didn't get access to the information and it is a sham organization.

It's not the NCAA's fault, though I suspect deep down Mark Emmert is feeling quite relieved.
It is a sham organization.

[Uncle Rico]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/candid-coaches-would-you-support-an-olympic-style-model-for-student-athletes/

Weird.  Most coaches are okay with the Olympic model being adopted for "student athletes".

They know the NCAA is a sham

[jesmu84]

Why is the NCAA a sham based on this tweet?   How did they lie?   Because a judge won't give them access to findings in an FBI investigation?  Seems to be an over reaction.  Maybe it can be said they don't have enough teeth but not seeing "sham" based off the information provided.

If they don't divulge the major violations by the end of summer, I'd say they lied.

[Pakuni]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/candid-coaches-would-you-support-an-olympic-style-model-for-student-athletes/

Weird.  Most coaches are okay with the Olympic model being adopted for "student athletes".

They know the NCAA is a sham

"The biggest thing working against it is that the money companies and boosters are now donating to universities would, in some cases, instead go directly to student-athletes -- which means universities would lose control of some revenue, and God knows they hate the idea of that."

Sounds a lot like something a really smart person here said.