Athletic: Joey Hauser Talks About Leaving Marquette

[#UnleashSean]

tragity?   a player being asked?  i think it was the player axking the coach, right?  and who mentioned tragedy?   

Raroh

[Lennys Tap]

Says the guy claiming the Marquette felt they really needed to convince Joey he needed to be at Marquette a semester early so if he hated Marquette it'd make it harder for him to transfer.

More lies. But by all means keep digging. Tell us your inside information about Joey's free surgery performed by MU's doctors. That's why he came to MU early, right? The World According to Wades. Hilarious.

[wadesworld]

I wonder if Joey's strong pull to MSU was part of the reason MU got him on campus a semester early.  Burning his redshirt may have been a preemptive way of making Joey think twice about transferring if he had a change of heart.

This is, of course, the most logical explanation given what we now know. The idea that Joey was driving the bus or that he needed to be in Milwaukee to rehab his ankle makes little sense. I'm sure the MU coaching staff felt that once they had Joey on campus he would love it - but the fact that it would make a future transfer for a kid with doubts more difficult was certainly a bonus.

Says the guy claiming the Marquette felt they really needed to convince Joey he needed to be at Marquette a semester early so if he hated Marquette it'd make it harder for him to transfer.

You're right, let me shut my mouth because you know exactly what happened!

We all love you Lenny.  You provide some incredible comedy here.  We know how Lenny's logic works.

More lies. But by all means keep digging. Tell us your inside information about Joey's free surgery performed by MU's doctors. That's why he came to MU early, right? The World According to Wades. Hilarious.

We're all laughing.

[dbwarriors]

soft, slow, non-athletic

[Jay Bee]

soft, slow, non-athletic

He's a very good basketball player

[TallTitan34]

He's a very good basketball player

Yup, he definitely has his weaknesses but he is still a hell of a player.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

U guys still talking about that Bi+ch?

[Golden Avalanche]

soft, slow, non-athletic

He's a very good basketball player

These aren't mutually exclusive.

[Uncle Rico]

I wish Joey all the best at East Lansing and continues to beat the rodents 90 miles west of Milwaukee.

"It's time to move on, time to get going, what lies ahead I have no way of knowing, but under my feet, baby, the grass is growing, it's time to move on, it's time to get going"

[MU82]

Yup, he definitely has his weaknesses but he is still a hell of a player.

I am not in the "Joey sucks" camp, not by a long stretch. I mostly liked his offensive game, and I wish he was gonna be a Warrior for a couple more seasons.

However, Titan, I'm not sure how you could have watched the 2018-19 season -- especially the last 2 months of it -- and determined that he is "a hell of a player."

Markus is an All-American, and there are plenty of Scoopers who don't think that even he is "a hell of a player."

When I see the phrase "a hell of a player," I think of a superstar, not a guy who averaged 10 and 5, a guy who faded badly down the stretch.

Now, Joey might one day be a great player. Obviously, Izzo thinks he's going to be good. We'll have to wait and see.

[Marcus92]

Joey started 31 games as a freshman -- finishing the season 1st on the team in 3-point percentage (42.5%), 2nd in rebounding (5.3 rpg), 3rd in scoring (9.7 ppg), 3rd in 3-pointers made (45) and 4th in minutes (29.2 mpg).

So how does that compare to other recent freshman performances?

Joey's older brother Sam started 28 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in minutes (26.5 mpg), 2nd in 2-point percentage (51.5%), 2nd in 3-point percentage (44.7%), 2nd in rebounding (5.0 rpg), 3rd in 3-pointers made (63) and 6th in scoring (8.8 ppg).

Markus Howard started 27 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in scoring (13.2 ppg), 1st in 3-pointers made (82), 1st in 3-point percentage (54.7%), 3rd in assists (70), and 6th in minutes (22.0 mpg).

Davante Gardner started 0 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in 2-point percentage (57.6%), 7th in scoring (4.6 ppg), 7th in rebounding, and 8th in minutes (9.0 mpg).

Vander Blue started 12 games as a freshman -- finishing 4th on the team in steals (33), 5th in scoring (5.1 ppg), 5th in 3-point percentage (16.0%), 5th in assists (59) and 6th in minutes (19.0 mpg).

Dominic James started 31 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in assists (167), 2nd in scoring (15.3 ppg), 2nd in steals (50), 2nd in minutes (32.5 mpg), 4th in blocks, 5th in 2-point percentage (49.6%) and 6th in 3-point percentage (30.1%).

Jerel McNeal started 31 games as a freshman -- finishing 2nd on the team in assists (85), 3rd in scoring (11.1 ppg), 3rd in minutes (27.5 mpg), 7th in 2-point percentage (47.0%) and 7th in 3-point percentage (28.3%).

Wes Matthews started 14 games as a freshman -- finishing 2nd on the team in 3-point percentage (43.8%), 3rd in assists (51), 3rd in steals (29), 4th in scoring (9.0 ppg), 4th in rebounding (4.0 rpg) 4th in minutes (24.9 mpg) and 9th in 2-point percentage (38.9%).

Lazar Hayward started 16 games as a freshman -- finishing 3rd on the team in 2-point percentage (50.0%), 5th in rebounding (3.6 rpg), 6th in scoring (6.6 ppg), 6th in 3-point percentage (20.8%), 6th in steals (20) and 7th in minutes (16.3 mpg).

Steve Novak started 0 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in 3-point percentage (50.5%), 2nd in 3-pointers made (55), 5th in scoring (6.7 mpg), 6th in minutes (15.5 mpg) and 7th in rebounding (2.2 rpg).

Travis Diener started 3 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in 3-point percentage (44.2%), 1st in 3-pointers made (57), 3rd in assists (86), 4th in scoring (7.9 ppg) 5th in minutes (23.7 mpg) and 6th in rebounds (2.5 rpg).

I could go back further. But it seems fair to say that Joey Hauser had as good a freshman season at Marquette as any player over the past 20 years not named Dominic James. Most freshmen are a work in progress. His performance suggests he's going to be very good player.

[tower912]

But he didn't get the ball enough so he left.   

[The Lens]

But he didn't get the ball enough so he left.

Ball didn't move so he left. 

There's a difference.

[Uncle Rico]

Ball didn't move so he left. 

There's a difference.

Markus had the highest assist rate on the team and was 125th in the nation. 

[Loose Cannon]

Ball didn't move so he left. 

There's a difference.

I guess, If you play slow it might seem that way.

[tower912]

The ball moved.   Not the way he wanted. 

[lawdog77]

Joey started 31 games as a freshman -- finishing the season 1st on the team in 3-point percentage (42.5%), 2nd in rebounding (5.3 rpg), 3rd in scoring (9.7 ppg), 3rd in 3-pointers made (45) and 4th in minutes (29.2 mpg).

So how does that compare to other recent freshman performances?

Joey's older brother Sam started 28 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in minutes (26.5 mpg), 2nd in 2-point percentage (51.5%), 2nd in 3-point percentage (44.7%), 2nd in rebounding (5.0 rpg), 3rd in 3-pointers made (63) and 6th in scoring (8.8 ppg).

Markus Howard started 27 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in scoring (13.2 ppg), 1st in 3-pointers made (82), 1st in 3-point percentage (54.7%), 3rd in assists (70), and 6th in minutes (22.0 mpg).

Davante Gardner started 0 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in 2-point percentage (57.6%), 7th in scoring (4.6 ppg), 7th in rebounding, and 8th in minutes (9.0 mpg).

Vander Blue started 12 games as a freshman -- finishing 4th on the team in steals (33), 5th in scoring (5.1 ppg), 5th in 3-point percentage (16.0%), 5th in assists (59) and 6th in minutes (19.0 mpg).

Dominic James started 31 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in assists (167), 2nd in scoring (15.3 ppg), 2nd in steals (50), 2nd in minutes (32.5 mpg), 4th in blocks, 5th in 2-point percentage (49.6%) and 6th in 3-point percentage (30.1%).

Jerel McNeal started 31 games as a freshman -- finishing 2nd on the team in assists (85), 3rd in scoring (11.1 ppg), 3rd in minutes (27.5 mpg), 7th in 2-point percentage (47.0%) and 7th in 3-point percentage (28.3%).

Wes Matthews started 14 games as a freshman -- finishing 2nd on the team in 3-point percentage (43.8%), 3rd in assists (51), 3rd in steals (29), 4th in scoring (9.0 ppg), 4th in rebounding (4.0 rpg) 4th in minutes (24.9 mpg) and 9th in 2-point percentage (38.9%).

Lazar Hayward started 16 games as a freshman -- finishing 3rd on the team in 2-point percentage (50.0%), 5th in rebounding (3.6 rpg), 6th in scoring (6.6 ppg), 6th in 3-point percentage (20.8%), 6th in steals (20) and 7th in minutes (16.3 mpg).

Steve Novak started 0 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in 3-point percentage (50.5%), 2nd in 3-pointers made (55), 5th in scoring (6.7 mpg), 6th in minutes (15.5 mpg) and 7th in rebounding (2.2 rpg).

Travis Diener started 3 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in 3-point percentage (44.2%), 1st in 3-pointers made (57), 3rd in assists (86), 4th in scoring (7.9 ppg) 5th in minutes (23.7 mpg) and 6th in rebounds (2.5 rpg).

I could go back further. But it seems fair to say that Joey Hauser had as good a freshman season at Marquette as any player over the past 20 years not named Dominic James. Most freshmen are a work in progress. His performance suggests he's going to be very good player.

Markus' freshman year was a hell of a lot better as well. Precancerous

[MU82]

Joey started 31 games as a freshman -- finishing the season 1st on the team in 3-point percentage (42.5%), 2nd in rebounding (5.3 rpg), 3rd in scoring (9.7 ppg), 3rd in 3-pointers made (45) and 4th in minutes (29.2 mpg).

So how does that compare to other recent freshman performances?

Joey's older brother Sam started 28 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in minutes (26.5 mpg), 2nd in 2-point percentage (51.5%), 2nd in 3-point percentage (44.7%), 2nd in rebounding (5.0 rpg), 3rd in 3-pointers made (63) and 6th in scoring (8.8 ppg).

Markus Howard started 27 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in scoring (13.2 ppg), 1st in 3-pointers made (82), 1st in 3-point percentage (54.7%), 3rd in assists (70), and 6th in minutes (22.0 mpg).

Davante Gardner started 0 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in 2-point percentage (57.6%), 7th in scoring (4.6 ppg), 7th in rebounding, and 8th in minutes (9.0 mpg).

Vander Blue started 12 games as a freshman -- finishing 4th on the team in steals (33), 5th in scoring (5.1 ppg), 5th in 3-point percentage (16.0%), 5th in assists (59) and 6th in minutes (19.0 mpg).

Dominic James started 31 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in assists (167), 2nd in scoring (15.3 ppg), 2nd in steals (50), 2nd in minutes (32.5 mpg), 4th in blocks, 5th in 2-point percentage (49.6%) and 6th in 3-point percentage (30.1%).

Jerel McNeal started 31 games as a freshman -- finishing 2nd on the team in assists (85), 3rd in scoring (11.1 ppg), 3rd in minutes (27.5 mpg), 7th in 2-point percentage (47.0%) and 7th in 3-point percentage (28.3%).

Wes Matthews started 14 games as a freshman -- finishing 2nd on the team in 3-point percentage (43.8%), 3rd in assists (51), 3rd in steals (29), 4th in scoring (9.0 ppg), 4th in rebounding (4.0 rpg) 4th in minutes (24.9 mpg) and 9th in 2-point percentage (38.9%).

Lazar Hayward started 16 games as a freshman -- finishing 3rd on the team in 2-point percentage (50.0%), 5th in rebounding (3.6 rpg), 6th in scoring (6.6 ppg), 6th in 3-point percentage (20.8%), 6th in steals (20) and 7th in minutes (16.3 mpg).

Steve Novak started 0 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in 3-point percentage (50.5%), 2nd in 3-pointers made (55), 5th in scoring (6.7 mpg), 6th in minutes (15.5 mpg) and 7th in rebounding (2.2 rpg).

Travis Diener started 3 games as a freshman -- finishing 1st on the team in 3-point percentage (44.2%), 1st in 3-pointers made (57), 3rd in assists (86), 4th in scoring (7.9 ppg) 5th in minutes (23.7 mpg) and 6th in rebounds (2.5 rpg).

I could go back further. But it seems fair to say that Joey Hauser had as good a freshman season at Marquette as any player over the past 20 years not named Dominic James. Most freshmen are a work in progress. His performance suggests he's going to be very good player.

Starting with your very last line, I did not say anything different. He indeed could be a very good player someday. Obviously, Izzo believes he will be, and Izzo knows even more about this stuff than you and I do. Joey might even be "a hell of a player" one day.

10 and 5, disappearing for 6 weeks, playing poor defense all year long ... that is not "a hell of a player" stuff, not the way I define "a hell of a player," anyway.

Zion was "a hell of a player." KD, as a freshman, was "a hell of a player." Anthony Davis was "a hell of a player." Joey, as a freshman, had some very good moments ... but, looking at his overall body of work, he was decent. There's no shame in being a decent 10-and-5 guy as a freshman on a good team. Let's not make him out to be something he wasn't.

[The Lens]

Markus had the highest assist rate on the team and was 125th in the nation.

Well we was the point guard

The ball moved.   Not the way he wanted. 

And ran off to the Paul Westhead of 2019, Tom Izzo. While his brother left for Mike Dantoni 2.0, Tony Bennett.  Both of whom are famous for feeding kids everything they want and letting the players call the shots.  I just wish for their sake they would have found coaches who preach team and defense and have a proven track record. SMH. 

[Uncle Rico]

Well we was the point guard

And ran off to the Paul Westhead of 2019, Tom Izzo. While his brother left for Mike Dantoni 2.0, Tony Bennett.  Both of whom are famous for feeding kids everything they want and letting the players call the shots.  I just wish for their sake they would have found coaches who preach team and defense and have a proven track record. SMH.

Nick Ward and Cassius Winston took 28% of the shots while on the court.  Joshua Langford was at 29%.  Izzo isn't afraid to let his best players dominate the ball.  If we want to go back and look at other years, Denzel Valentine for example, was a guy that dominated the ball a lot.  I'll submit, not as much as Markus, none are as dynamic, though.  Saying Izzo doesn't let his best players dominate the ball, simply isn't true

[NorthernDancerColt]

Ball didn't move so he left. 

There's a difference.

Can you see the effort in the SUMMER workouts? These guys are busting their butts, and appear almost frenetic. The chemistry is already there. These guys look like a bunch with something to prove.  Joey, right or wrong in being disgruntled, had horrible body language almost all year. Goodbye.

Replacing the production of Sam, who always gave his all, is what I'm concerned with.

I think doubters like you.....are in for a big surprise.

[tower912]

Nick Ward and Cassius Winston took 28% of the shots while on the court.  Joshua Langford was at 29%.  Izzo isn't afraid to let his best players dominate the ball.  If we want to go back and look at other years, Denzel Valentine for example, was a guy that dominated the ball a lot.  I'll submit, not as much as Markus, none are as dynamic, though.  Saying Izzo doesn't let his best players dominate the ball, simply isn't true

So true.   Due to injuries, Winston rarely came off the floor.    Dominated usage.    Clearly more assists, but he has always been a PG.   He won't be there when Joey is eligible, though. 

[NorthernDancerColt]

So true.   Due to injuries, Winston rarely came off the floor.    Dominated usage.    Clearly more assists, but he has always been a PG.   He won't be there when Joey is eligible, though.

As "Our Kev" would say, "If Cassius Winston goes in front of a bus today, Coach Izzo goes in front of one tomorrow."

I ran into (pardon the pun) Tony Miller walking on campus once and asked him if he felt any stress about having the ball in his hands all the time...and what it was like having basically the only set of keys to the MU offense/car. He said something to the effect of "I can't drive it on any vacations or let anyone steal it" and "I better return it to the garage every night without a ding or scratch." 

If Tony had much of a shot, his usage would've rivaled Winston's.

[The Lens]

Can you see the effort in the SUMMER workouts? These guys are busting their butts, and appear almost frenetic. The chemistry is already there. These guys look like a bunch with something to prove.  Joey, right or wrong in being disgruntled, had horrible body language almost all year. Goodbye.

Replacing the production of Sam, who always gave his all, is what I'm concerned with.

I think doubters like you.....are in for a big surprise.

Dude, this is my life. It's my only season ticket subscription, the only team I find a message board for, the only team that consumes my thoughts day and night.  I hope you're right.

[Lennys Tap]

Markus had the highest assist rate on the team and was 125th in the nation.

He was a point guard  ball who dominated the ball. He was surrounded by one elite and one outstanding 3 pt shooter. The 125th assist rate in the nation under those circumstances is (IMO) disappointing.