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Author Topic: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?  (Read 22870 times)


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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2018, 11:44:37 AM »
ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN

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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2018, 11:57:00 AM »
I don't know about 4th in the country, but if we can have a top 100 defense as projected, 10-15 shouldn't be outside the realm of possibility.

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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2018, 12:02:24 PM »
So many weapons. Love this roster.

Borzello didn't mention Joey, but he should have. Big time.

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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2018, 12:03:33 PM »

Certainly can't hurt Recruiting.
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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2018, 12:15:49 PM »
So many weapons. Love this roster.

Borzello didn't mention Joey, but he should have. Big time.

http://latenighthoops.com/projecting-marquettes-2018-19-usage/#.W13y99VKjIU

Then he would have to have us above Kansas, no?

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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2018, 12:53:53 PM »
Well if we go far this year, those that aren't Wojo fans will get their wish as he will leave.  I'm going to enjoy the ride, hope we finally have a lifer.
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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2018, 12:56:10 PM »
Well if we go far this year, those that aren't Wojo fans will get their wish as he will leave.  I'm going to enjoy the ride, hope we finally have a lifer.

Leave for...where?
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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2018, 01:29:44 PM »
Another job.

wades asked "where," not "what."

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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2018, 01:58:32 PM »
So, if we don't get to final 4 Wojo underperforms
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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2018, 02:08:23 PM »
Another job.

lol.....save the Nostradamus stuff for the lottery.

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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2018, 02:11:03 PM »
So, if we don't get to final 4 Wojo underperforms

I guess so. This thread makes no sense.  If Wojo willing to go (I don't think he is) then MU needs to make a change ASAP. He is fortunate to have his job.

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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2018, 02:26:44 PM »
wades asked "where," not "what."

Does anyone honestly think that if he is successful here, Wojo would leave for anywhere other than Duke?
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2018, 02:32:12 PM »
Does anyone honestly think that if he is successful here, Wojo would leave for anywhere other than Duke?

I do.  This is college basketball.  He has more chance going somewhere else in his career than either staying here for life or going to duke.   

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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2018, 02:41:35 PM »
I do.  This is college basketball.  He has more chance going somewhere else in his career than either staying here for life or going to duke.

If you are talking about straight statistics, sure.  But if you are successful in a top tier program that provides you with just about everything you would ever want (including pay), and you have demonstrated that you are honored and humbled by being a part one of the most important programs in NCAA basketball history, why would you leave for anything other than the arguably the top job in NCAA basketball, which also happens to be your alma mater?

Where else would Wojo go?  North Carolina? Kansas?
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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2018, 02:43:30 PM »
How predictable is BPI anyway? Does anyone have the faintest clue what kind of statistical analysis goes into the model (beyond vague statements about the importance of returning players)? How does it compare to models like Pomeroy or Value Add?

For all I know, ESPN's primary goal in developing and promoting BPI is to create clickbait for college basketball fans. But I'm 100% on board with a Marquette Final Four appearance this season.
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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2018, 02:47:35 PM »
Wow.  BPI projects MU 4th.  And who would have guessed Wisconsin 8th?  Will be interesting to look back at this projection, come the end of the season.

What does seem clear, is that this MU team is expected to be really good this season.  The talent is there, and that's props to the coaching staff.  Now the litmus test comes down to, can the coach, coach?

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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2018, 02:54:20 PM »
If you are talking about straight statistics, sure.  But if you are successful in a top tier program that provides you with just about everything you would ever want (including pay), and you have demonstrated that you are honored and humbled by being a part one of the most important programs in NCAA basketball history, why would you leave for anything other than the arguably the top job in NCAA basketball, which also happens to be your alma mater?

Where else would Wojo go?  North Carolina? Kansas?


Eh.  I could see him leaving for a place like Florida or Texas.  A high level program but not a "blue blood."


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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2018, 03:50:36 PM »

Eh.  I could see him leaving for a place like Florida or Texas.  A high level program but not a "blue blood."

I think it's again worth asking where, though. What program is big enough that has a coach who might be on the hot seat? I don't see Wojo going to a Big Ten or Big East job. Maybe Maryland, but I don't think Turgeon is on the hot seat unless they are terrible.

Are there any ACC teams (aside from Duke/UNC) that are high enough level with coaches on the hot seat? Virginia, Louisville, Notre Dame, or NC State might be big enough, but I don't think anyone is on the hot seat or likely leaving. Syracuse I can't see going outside their own family even if Boeheim leaves. Maybe Wake Forest if Danny Manning gets fired?

In the SEC, Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, and LSU might be big enough jobs, but none of their coaches are likely going anywhere. Nowhere else seems possible. Same with Texas or Oklahoma in the Big 12. Can't see Smart leaving. Maybe Krueger does, that might be possible, but I don't think he's in any risk of losing his job.

I don't think he'd go to a bottom of a big league job, I think it would take another top-25 type program. Just not sure any of those are going to be cutting ties with their coaches this year.
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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2018, 04:21:12 PM »


I don't think he'd go to a bottom of a big league job, I think it would take another top-25 type program. Just not sure any of those are going to be cutting ties with their coaches this year.

But if Marquette is a top 25 program, why would he leave to go to another one?
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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2018, 04:32:25 PM »
I know many are still scarred by TC and Buzz leaving, but believe it or not, sometimes coaches stay at their current jobs. And not just the blue bloods.

Generally as long as a coach is happy at a Marquette level program, he will not look leave for another job unless it is one of the top jobs in the country. Since returning to relevancy, we haven't had that, so we assume its impossible.

Wojo may stay. Wojo may go. I could be wrong but I think unless a blue blood comes calling, or Wojo grows unhappy at Marquette, I think he will stick around for awhile.
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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2018, 04:43:47 PM »
Does anyone honestly think that if he is successful here, Wojo would leave for anywhere other than Duke?

I do. But I don’t think they’re programs that will A) have an opening after this season and B) warrant giving Wojo their job after a single good season at MU.
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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2018, 04:45:46 PM »
Certainly can't hurt Recruiting.
Haven’t you heard? We were in the NIT last year—-some on here believe that’s too large of a hurdle to overcome.
Nothing can help recruiting at this point.

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Re: ESPN: Why does BPI rate Marquette higher than Duke or Kentucky?
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2018, 04:46:17 PM »
I think Wojo is genuinely happy at MU and has seen what coach K's thinking and feelings that he considered when the NBA teams came a' calling.

 They both have similar backgrounds and are both Blue collar guys and are loyal..

I think there is only one team that might have a chance, and it still would be a difficult decision
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