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Floorslapper

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 18, 2018, 07:33:21 AM
I think the difference was the Howard injury. If Howard and Rowsey are out there together, the zone likely doesn't work as well. To run it effectively, we need the additional quickness and length we get from guys like Elliott and Cain. It'll be interesting to see how we run it going forward depending on health.

Spot on.

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Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on February 18, 2018, 07:06:35 AM
Great win.  Thank God Wojo finally, finally  had the team play zone.

You do realize that he has used zone in stretches of numerous games, right?
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Quote from: MU82 on February 18, 2018, 02:38:53 PM
You do realize that he has used zone in stretches of numerous games, right?
Yes, but this was the first time he stuck with it.

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Quote from: Nukem2 on February 18, 2018, 06:19:19 PM
Yes, but this was the first time he stuck with it.

This is incorrect.

As TAMU pointed out in another thread, the zone helped us beat Nova last year. Wojo stuck with it over the next 5 games, and we went 1-4. And that was with JJJ to be a ballhawk. Wojo went back to man against X and we won, starting the 4-1 stretch that clinched our NCAA berth.
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BM1090

Synergy still hasn't logged last night's game vs Creighton, but going in to it #mubb had given up .972 PPP in man defense and 1.089 PPP in zone D.

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Quote from: MUeagle1090 on February 18, 2018, 10:46:37 PM
Synergy still hasn't logged last night's game vs Creighton, but going in to it #mubb had given up .972 PPP in man defense and 1.089 PPP in zone D.

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Good info, though my guess is that we used man a lot more against cupcakes so that might skew the results a bit.
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Quote from: MUeagle1090 on February 18, 2018, 10:46:37 PM
Synergy still hasn't logged last night's game vs Creighton, but going in to it #mubb had given up .972 PPP in man defense and 1.089 PPP in zone D.

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This is great.  Yet - what Synergy cannot account for:

1) How long did we stay in zone for?  I'm a firm believer that you execute better with repetition and consistency.  I don't recall 1 instance in the last few years where we went EXCLUSIVELY zone for an entire half.

2) The personnel used in a zone make a HUGE difference in a zone defense's effectiveness.  Cuse always has long athletes.  Playing a zone with both Markus and Rowsey in it, is going to yield worse results than subbing out one of them and adding uber long and athletic Cain.

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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 18, 2018, 11:16:04 PM
Good info, though my guess is that we used man a lot more against cupcakes so that might skew the results a bit.

Yes, can confirm this.
We were almost exclusively man against Wisconsin.
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Got to say I've grown sour on wojo - mostly because he's just so freaking boring & shows zero emotion. But, I got to give credit where credit is due, every player he's brought in plays to win every night which is truly a joy to watch. Elliot, Cain, John, Anim have all shown exceptional toughness all season long. It's a strong point for Wojo, the players play hard for him. Even though I'd like a little more from the coach as long as the players are responding to his teaching of gritty play it doesn't matter if wojo doesn't get as fired up on the sideline or shows even an ounce of personality in post game pressers. I'm such a fan of the way the freshman and Sacar have approached the game this year. We knew what rowsey, howard and hauser would bring but the others playing the way they do speaks volumes to wojo as a leader and is very promising as these kids continue to fill out and improve their game in the big east.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: barfolomew on February 19, 2018, 12:04:43 PM
Yes, can confirm this.
We were almost exclusively man against Wisconsin.

winner.

jsglow

Quote from: Boards on February 19, 2018, 02:05:29 PM
Got to say I've grown sour on wojo - mostly because he's just so freaking boring & shows zero emotion. But, I got to give credit where credit is due, every player he's brought in plays to win every night which is truly a joy to watch. Elliot, Cain, John, Anim have all shown exceptional toughness all season long. It's a strong point for Wojo, the players play hard for him. Even though I'd like a little more from the coach as long as the players are responding to his teaching of gritty play it doesn't matter if wojo doesn't get as fired up on the sideline or shows even an ounce of personality in post game pressers. I'm such a fan of the way the freshman and Sacar have approached the game this year. We knew what rowsey, howard and hauser would bring but the others playing the way they do speaks volumes to wojo as a leader and is very promising as these kids continue to fill out and improve their game in the big east.

I was kinda waiting for this to pop up and it's something that I think hasn't been discussed much since Saturday.  Watch Wojo and the team closely in all the time following the M2N injury.  I think the demeanor and body language speak volumes.  Immediately after the injury, Wojo is literally pounding the chests of Heldt and Theo.  And he's clearly challenging each and every player to stand up like men if they want this.  Moments later he takes his T, not because he's mad about a particular call it seemed to me, but in a classic 'wake the eff up' approach.  In the second half, we actually hear him talking about winning the last 4 minute segment and telling his players it's zero/zero now.  With 90 seconds to go, he draws up an effective iso play for Sacar.  'I'll make it coach.'  And one last thing.  In the very last timeout with 6 seconds, Wojo steps aside with all his coaches for several seconds and the entire team gathers around Rowsey.  And you can clearly tell AR is reminding everyone about their assignments and to r-e-l-a-x and not do something stupid.  He had 100% attention. 

I think I saw a coach and a team grow up a little.  Now it may not salvage the season but I liked every moment of that.

Its DJOver

Quote from: jsglow on February 19, 2018, 03:08:18 PM
I was kinda waiting for this to pop up and it's something that I think hasn't been discussed much since Saturday.  Watch Wojo and the team closely in all the time following the M2N injury.  I think the demeanor and body language speak volumes.  Immediately after the injury, Wojo is literally pounding the chests of Heldt and Theo.  And he's clearly challenging each and every player to stand up like men if they want this.  Moments later he takes his T, not because he's mad about a particular call it seemed to me, but in a classic 'wake the eff up' approach.  In the second half, we actually hear him talking about winning the last 4 minute segment and telling his players it's zero/zero now.  With 90 seconds to go, he draws up an effective iso play for Sacar.  'I'll make it coach.'  And one last thing.  In the very last timeout with 6 seconds, Wojo steps aside with all his coaches for several seconds and the entire team gathers around Rowsey.  And you can clearly tell AR is reminding everyone about their assignments and to r-e-l-a-x and not do something stupid.  He had 100% attention. 

I think I saw a coach and a team grow up a little.  Now it may not salvage the season but I liked every moment of that.
I also think that Rowsey has grown into some what of a player coach/ senior leader role that we'd all hope he'd take.  There's still a little, talk smack with Ben Simmons from the bench in him, but there's no go getting a stupid T after being baited by the other teams walk on that we saw in Madison.
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BM1090

Quote from: jsglow on February 19, 2018, 03:08:18 PM
I was kinda waiting for this to pop up and it's something that I think hasn't been discussed much since Saturday.  Watch Wojo and the team closely in all the time following the M2N injury.  I think the demeanor and body language speak volumes.  Immediately after the injury, Wojo is literally pounding the chests of Heldt and Theo.  And he's clearly challenging each and every player to stand up like men if they want this.  Moments later he takes his T, not because he's mad about a particular call it seemed to me, but in a classic 'wake the eff up' approach.  In the second half, we actually hear him talking about winning the last 4 minute segment and telling his players it's zero/zero now.  With 90 seconds to go, he draws up an effective iso play for Sacar.  'I'll make it coach.'  And one last thing.  In the very last timeout with 6 seconds, Wojo steps aside with all his coaches for several seconds and the entire team gathers around Rowsey.  And you can clearly tell AR is reminding everyone about their assignments and to r-e-l-a-x and not do something stupid.  He had 100% attention. 

I think I saw a coach and a team grow up a little.  Now it may not salvage the season but I liked every moment of that.

I may have missed this, but were you at the game? Or was all this evident from the TV broadcast? If the latter, I need to go back and rewatch.

MuMark

Quote from: MUeagle1090 on February 19, 2018, 03:20:21 PM
I may have missed this, but were you at the game? Or was all this evident from the TV broadcast? If the latter, I need to go back and rewatch.

It was all on TV.....especially the last timeout.....Rowsey talking to the other players....everybody fully engaged.....Elliott asking questions and talking.


Yeah Wojo never shows emotion....https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/965086912988946432

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: jsglow on February 19, 2018, 03:08:18 PM
I was kinda waiting for this to pop up and it's something that I think hasn't been discussed much since Saturday.  Watch Wojo and the team closely in all the time following the M2N injury.  I think the demeanor and body language speak volumes.  Immediately after the injury, Wojo is literally pounding the chests of Heldt and Theo.  And he's clearly challenging each and every player to stand up like men if they want this.  Moments later he takes his T, not because he's mad about a particular call it seemed to me, but in a classic 'wake the eff up' approach.  In the second half, we actually hear him talking about winning the last 4 minute segment and telling his players it's zero/zero now.  With 90 seconds to go, he draws up an effective iso play for Sacar.  'I'll make it coach.'  And one last thing.  In the very last timeout with 6 seconds, Wojo steps aside with all his coaches for several seconds and the entire team gathers around Rowsey.  And you can clearly tell AR is reminding everyone about their assignments and to r-e-l-a-x and not do something stupid.  He had 100% attention. 

I think I saw a coach and a team grow up a little.  Now it may not salvage the season but I liked every moment of that.

well stated, glow.  i came away with the exact same impressions.

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