Xavier better not eff this one up...

[MU82]

If it was Cheatham, he wouldn't have gone down like he was hit by a sniper. I watch a ton of soccer and that dive would put Ronaldo to shame. When you're falling and crying to the ref before contact is made, it's not a foul. Not in any sport ever. Look at the national Twitter response. Everyone knew it was not a foul. What's worse is the refs swallowed their whistles the last two minutes, then decided the game on a call.

Twitter proves nothing.

You have an opinion and many happen to think it's wrong. Including the only one who mattered.

[keefe]

I respectfully disagree, Crash.

I thought it was a charge in regular time and absolutely thought it was a charge each time I saw the replay.

Frankly, I thought it was an obvious call. If the ref didn't call that, he would have heard from his supervisor later.

Mike

No probs, mate. My point was not about the call but the fact that Xavier should never have been in a position where that mattered.

The worst part is that it had to be Koening who made that shot at the other end.

[WarriorPride68]

If it was Cheatham, he wouldn't have gone down like he was hit by a sniper. I watch a ton of soccer and that dive would put Ronaldo to shame. When you're falling and crying to the ref before contact is made, it's not a foul. Not in any sport ever. Look at the national Twitter response. Everyone knew it was not a foul. What's worse is the refs swallowed their whistles the last two minutes, then decided the game on a call.

Brew doesn't mess around with charge calls evidently

[CountryRoads]

Brew doesn't mess around with charge calls evidently

Imo it was the right call. A flop? Yes, but the right call. Sumner didn't deserve the call either. He was going no where.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Mike

No probs, mate. My point was not about the call but the fact that Xavier should never have been in a position where that mattered.

The worst part is that it had to be Koening who made that shot at the other end.

This sums it up the best.

[Groin_pull]

Imo it was the right call. A flop? Yes, but the right call. Sumner didn't deserve the call either. He was going no where.

Ever hear of a no call?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Bucky sucks.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Don't blame the call, X took stupid shot after stupid shot.  They couldn't stop Happ, Koenig lit them up.  Xavier's game to lose, and they did.

I watched parts of the game last night and kept saying why does Xavier keep chucking 3s?  They seem to score at will when they get the ball inside.

[Mu2323]

Xaviers coach lost the game for them. I don't know the exact time but Xavier got the bonus with roughly 14 mins left in the half. There center Reynolds was absolutely abusing happ/hayes/brown. Why they didn't continue to pound it inside with wisconsins foul trouble is beyond me.

[GGGG]

I never said the punishments weren't too extreme, but the problem was the incidents kept happening and happening and happening, and that leads to some bad decisions at times.  What I find a great fallacy is MU running him out of town, which didn't happen. 

Let me ask you a logic 101 question Sultan, would the "excessive punishments" have happened if the "crimes" didn't?   Pretty much sums it up.

Actually no.  That isn't logical.  You don't throw someone in jail for 6 months due to a speeding ticket.

And the incidents didn't "keep happening and happening and happening."  I thought Buzz and his players represented the University very well.  Were they perfect?  No.  However the elitist BS that followed from the BOT and the MU administration, and ham fistedly carried out by SP and LW, was an indictment of their leadership as well.

They used a flame thrower when a fly swatter would have done just fine.

[mu03eng]

Xaviers coach lost the game for them. I don't know the exact time but Xavier got the bonus with roughly 14 mins left in the half. There center Reynolds was absolutely abusing happ/hayes/brown. Why they didn't continue to pound it inside with wisconsins foul trouble is beyond me.

Reynolds played the last 6 minutes with 4 fouls (2 very questionable ones at that) and he was the only one who could check Happ, I'm sure they didn't want to risk an offensive foul on Reynolds and have no answer for Happ on the defensive end.

[mu03eng]

Yeah, this week might be worse than the past two years just because it was so goddamn unlikely. 9 and goddamn 9 and now in the Sweet 16. Just sickening.

Yeah it's really bad and it if sparked a fight in my house. Wife is one of "good" badger fans, she follows her team, doesn't trash talk unless just for fun and will route for Marquette. She was overjoyed last night but then got mad at me when I was sulking about the result (literally walked out of the room when the shot left Koenig's hand because I knew it was going in). Had to have an entire discussion with her about how difficult it is to be Marquette fan in Wisconsin general and Milwaukee specifically.

50% of the "fans" I meet don't know when the Badgers are playing or name a player other than Nigel Hayes. Literally had one "fan" at work who thought the new coaches name was Craig for like 4 weeks. And the majority of fans who know what they are talking about are obnoxious, arrogant and just annoying. They go out of their way to be antagonistic when things are going well for Bucky and not for Marquette. And Wisconsin's bandwagon is just ridiculous, but if Marquette is doing well, crickets except for those Bucky fans that just crap all over us. I know this sounds like whining but I don't care, f$%k Bucky and f$%k their fans


pheeewww, I feel better, thanks

[mu03eng]

Actually no.  That isn't logical.  You don't throw someone in jail for 6 months due to a speeding ticket.

And the incidents didn't "keep happening and happening and happening."  I thought Buzz and his players represented the University very well.  Were they perfect?  No.  However the elitist BS that followed from the BOT and the MU administration, and ham fistedly carried out by SP and LW, was an indictment of their leadership as well.

They used a flame thrower when a fly swatter would have done just fine.

Bottom line, BW, LW, SP, and the BoT failed to be leaders and adults in this situation and have put Marquette in a tough spot.

I think BW's failings have been pretty well documented(apparently except for Chicos), LW and SP have as well to a certain extent but the failings of the BoT have not and my concern is that will show itself again in the next couple of years and make a tough Marquette position even harder.

[MUDPT]

Yeah it's really bad and it if sparked a fight in my house. Wife is one of "good" badger fans, she follows her team, doesn't trash talk unless just for fun and will route for Marquette. She was overjoyed last night but then got mad at me when I was sulking about the result (literally walked out of the room when the shot left Koenig's hand because I knew it was going in). Had to have an entire discussion with her about how difficult it is to be Marquette fan in Wisconsin general and Milwaukee specifically.

50% of the "fans" I meet don't know when the Badgers are playing or name a player other than Nigel Hayes. Literally had one "fan" at work who thought the new coaches name was Craig for like 4 weeks. And the majority of fans who know what they are talking about are obnoxious, arrogant and just annoying. They go out of their way to be antagonistic when things are going well for Bucky and not for Marquette. And Wisconsin's bandwagon is just ridiculous, but if Marquette is doing well, crickets except for those Bucky fans that just crap all over us. I know this sounds like whining but I don't care, f$%k Bucky and f$%k their fans


pheeewww, I feel better, thanks

This, all of this.  Ugh, will have to hear about the "grittiness" of Showalter all freaking day.  Whether it was a charge or not, he is setting himself to draw a foul and not defending Sumner.  Those are two very different things in my mind. Basketball should adopt the soccer "flopping" rule and give personal fouls for flopping to try and stem the tide of guys deceiving refs.  But this would also mean that the already terrible refs have to decide something else.

[KenoshaWarrior]

So glad I'm two time zones away from that crap. Feel for those who are surrounded by it. To make it worse, I fully expect UW to beat ND. Wouldn't stun me to see them in the Final Four again.

This is way worse than the last 2 years. We knew that was coming.   Everyone in this state forgot about them until tourney started. Know they got a week to or more to be....well vadgery

[Coleman]

Yeah it's really bad and it if sparked a fight in my house. Wife is one of "good" badger fans, she follows her team, doesn't trash talk unless just for fun and will route for Marquette. She was overjoyed last night but then got mad at me when I was sulking about the result (literally walked out of the room when the shot left Koenig's hand because I knew it was going in). Had to have an entire discussion with her about how difficult it is to be Marquette fan in Wisconsin general and Milwaukee specifically.

50% of the "fans" I meet don't know when the Badgers are playing or name a player other than Nigel Hayes. Literally had one "fan" at work who thought the new coaches name was Craig for like 4 weeks. And the majority of fans who know what they are talking about are obnoxious, arrogant and just annoying. They go out of their way to be antagonistic when things are going well for Bucky and not for Marquette. And Wisconsin's bandwagon is just ridiculous, but if Marquette is doing well, crickets except for those Bucky fans that just crap all over us. I know this sounds like whining but I don't care, f$%k Bucky and f$%k their fans


pheeewww, I feel better, thanks

Really glad I married a MU alumna and live in Illinois right now. It also gives you some perspective about how little people really care about college basketball, and how insular the state of Wisconsin is in regards to the Badgers. I haven't heard peep about UW's game winning shot in any of the local media, sports radio, etc. It is just not on the radar. No one cares. It is nice.

If it weren't for Dbags like Dekker I wouldn't even care what UW does. But they talk out of both sides of their mouths about how they don't care about MU, that they are our Superbowl, act like we are little brother, but then talk sh!t the first chance they get. If you really don't care about MU, why not just enjoy the win?

[MUfan12]

50% of the "fans" I meet don't know when the Badgers are playing or name a player other than Nigel Hayes. Literally had one "fan" at work who thought the new coaches name was Craig for like 4 weeks. And the majority of fans who know what they are talking about are obnoxious, arrogant and just annoying. They go out of their way to be antagonistic when things are going well for Bucky and not for Marquette. And Wisconsin's bandwagon is just ridiculous, but if Marquette is doing well, crickets except for those Bucky fans that just crap all over us. I know this sounds like whining but I don't care, f$%k Bucky and f$%k their fans

Didn't you know? It's perfectly acceptable for them to hate Marquette, but not for you to hate "da baadgers."

[Litehouse]

If it weren't for Dbags like Dekker I wouldn't even care what UW does. But they talk out of both sides of their mouths about how they don't care about MU, that they are our Superbowl, act like we are little brother, but then talk sh!t the first chance they get. If you really don't care about MU, why not just enjoy the win?

Because they do care, a lot.  We're in Dekkers head.

[MerrittsMustache]

Yeah it's really bad and it if sparked a fight in my house. Wife is one of "good" badger fans, she follows her team, doesn't trash talk unless just for fun and will route for Marquette. She was overjoyed last night but then got mad at me when I was sulking about the result (literally walked out of the room when the shot left Koenig's hand because I knew it was going in). Had to have an entire discussion with her about how difficult it is to be Marquette fan in Wisconsin general and Milwaukee specifically.

50% of the "fans" I meet don't know when the Badgers are playing or name a player other than Nigel Hayes. Literally had one "fan" at work who thought the new coaches name was Craig for like 4 weeks. And the majority of fans who know what they are talking about are obnoxious, arrogant and just annoying. They go out of their way to be antagonistic when things are going well for Bucky and not for Marquette. And Wisconsin's bandwagon is just ridiculous, but if Marquette is doing well, crickets except for those Bucky fans that just crap all over us. I know this sounds like whining but I don't care, f$%k Bucky and f$%k their fans


pheeewww, I feel better, thanks

I've often found that the most obnoxious, hostile Badger supporters/Marquette haters are the ones who went to UW-Someplace (i.e. not Madison). That always seemed strange to me.

[ChicosBailBonds]

This is way worse than the last 2 years. We knew that was coming.   Everyone in this state forgot about them until tourney started. Know they got a week to or more to be....well vadgery

Are you an English teacher by chance?

[frozena pizza]

The charge call on Sumner was borderline at best, but he lowered his shoulder and went straight into the defender.  Showalter was also moving and may have flopped but he fell straight back and that was clearly the best play to make as defender in that situation as refs will often call a charge on that play.  Like it or not, flopping and arbitrary calls are a huge part of basketball and you see it in every game.  UW came up huge in the clutch and X fell apart down the stretch.  Super annoying but move on.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Bottom line, BW, LW, SP, and the BoT failed to be leaders and adults in this situation and have put Marquette in a tough spot.

I think BW's failings have been pretty well documented(apparently except for Chicos), LW and SP have as well to a certain extent but the failings of the BoT have not and my concern is that will show itself again in the next couple of years and make a tough Marquette position even harder.

I thought they were pretty well documented as well, but then I read asshattery comments about Saint Buzz that clearly lead me to think they weren't.

At any rate, I don't think MU is in a tough spot.  The hiroshima nonsense, we are SLU nonsense, etc...all overblown nonsense and people running around here with their heads cut off.  People have the patience of teenage girls waiting to be asked to the prom. 

[MerrittsMustache]

Really glad I married a MU alumna and live in Illinois right now. It also gives you some perspective about how little people really care about college basketball, and how insular the state of Wisconsin is in regards to the Badgers. I haven't heard peep about UW's game winning shot in any of the local media, sports radio, etc. It is just not on the radar. No one cares. It is nice.

My first job out of college I had a co-worker who was a very nice lady but she had pretty much never been out of the state of Wisconsin. Shortly after I started, she asked me what Illinois people really think about the Badgers. I replied: We don't.

I realized that it came across rather dickish, which wasn't my intent (in that situation  ), so I smiled and sort of backtracked, telling her that I was never a big U of I fan, I went to MU, etc.

The fact of the matter is that no one outside of Wisconsin cares or thinks about the Badgers much. I'm not saying that MU is constantly on the minds of college basketball fans, but I also feel like MU fans recognize that.

[Badgerhater]

It was impossible for Xavier to win when they had both hands around their throat.

[Badgerhater]

My first job out of college I had a co-worker who was a very nice lady but she had pretty much never been out of the state of Wisconsin. Shortly after I started, she asked me what Illinois people really think about the Badgers. I replied: We don't.

I realized that it came across rather dickish, which wasn't my intent (in that situation  ), so I smiled and sort of backtracked, telling her that I was never a big U of I fan, I went to MU, etc.

The fact of the matter is that no one outside of Wisconsin cares or thinks about the Badgers much. I'm not saying that MU is constantly on the minds of college basketball fans, but I also feel like MU fans recognize that.

I grew up in western MN and the entire state of Wisconsin didn't even register in anyone's mind -- we were oriented towards the west.   If it wasn't for Marquette, I may well have yet to step foot in the state.