Xavier better not eff this one up...

[GGGG]

A few years ago, I was talking with a friend of mine from high school (I went to high school in Madison) that went to UW-Oshkosh.

He asked me, with a legitimate quizzical look on his face, "who do you root for when Marquette and Wisconsin play each other?"  My response was "Why would I root for Wisconsin?  I went to Marquette."

He looked at me like I was speaking Farsi.  For awhile he just couldn't seem to comprehend what I had just said.  I don't think most UW fans are dicks about it, I just don't think they understand that some people from Wisconsin root for other teams.  Its the one D1 program in the state with a football team.  It's just natural for them to root for Madison.

[We R Final Four]

A few years ago, I was talking with a friend of mine from high school (I went to high school in Madison) that went to UW-Oshkosh.

He asked me, with a legitimate quizzical look on his face, "who do you root for when Marquette and Wisconsin play each other?"  My response was "Why would I root for Wisconsin?  I went to Marquette."

He looked at me like I was speaking Farsi.  For awhile he just couldn't seem to comprehend what I had just said.  I don't think most UW fans are dicks about it, I just don't think they understand that some people from Wisconsin root for other teams.  Its the one D1 program in the state with a football team.  It's just natural for them to root for Madison.

This is exactly the case. And more than a few take it as an afront to Wisky because you cheer for someone else. You should see the eye rolls I get at my daughters bball games from Bucky fans when I wear MU gear.

[Coleman]

I've often found that the most obnoxious, hostile Badger supporters/Marquette haters are the ones who went to UW-Someplace (i.e. not Madison). That always seemed strange to me.

That is absolutely true.

[Coleman]

I think it is just a result of only have one major state school program in-state, especially because of it being the only football program. Everyone just thinks cheering for UW is the default. And it just carries over to basketball, even when there are other D1 programs.

You don't get that when there's Iowa-Iowa State, Michigan-Michigan State, etc. to choose from.

It is what it is. I don't begrudge Wisconsinsites rooting for the Badgers. I just don't understand the obsession with taunting MU fans when Bucky gets a taste of success. 

[MU82]

Reynolds played the last 6 minutes with 4 fouls (2 very questionable ones at that) and he was the only one who could check Happ, I'm sure they didn't want to risk an offensive foul on Reynolds and have no answer for Happ on the defensive end.

I've already said that I thought the charge call was a no-brainer ... and I very much wanted Wisconsin to lose. Others have disagreed and that's fine. We all have opinions.

To me, a non-call played a major part in this game with about 5 minutes to go and X was up 6. Reynolds was positioning himself to score over Happ, who reached in to slap the ball away. It looked like a foul at the time, replays showed it should have been a foul and Steve Smith said it looked like a foul. It would have been Happ's fourth. More significantly, it prevented X from adding to its lead and it led to a Bucky fast-break basket. So it was a 4-point swing AND no fourth foul on Happ AND big-time momentum for Bucky, who had been reeling. Huge turn of events.

Sometimes no-calls affect a game as much as -- or more than -- calls.

[keefe]

I'm not saying that MU is constantly on the minds of college basketball fans

How dare you!

[mu03eng]

In an effort to keep this "fair" I think there is a terrible scourge within the Marquette fanbase as well that should be rooted out. It is the Marquette alum that cheers for Wisconsin almost as much as they do Marquette. I have at least two "friends" that were super excited about last nights win and were wearing badger clothes while watching....both Marquette grads who have season tickets to MU games. They always use the "I grew up in Wisconsin" excuse, which is just total garbage. You don't get to have two teams (who hate each other) as teams you root for so you almost always have a positive outcome. These people must be stopped.

[MUfan12]

In an effort to keep this "fair" I think there is a terrible scourge within the Marquette fanbase as well that should be rooted out. It is the Marquette alum that cheers for Wisconsin almost as much as they do Marquette. I have at least two "friends" that were super excited about last nights win and were wearing badger clothes while watching....both Marquette grads who have season tickets to MU games. They always use the "I grew up in Wisconsin" excuse, which is just total garbage. You don't get to have two teams (who hate each other) as teams you root for so you almost always have a positive outcome. These people must be stopped.

They should be executed with the same gun that shot Showalter last night.

[mu03eng]

I've already said that I thought the charge call was a no-brainer ... and I very much wanted Wisconsin to lose. Others have disagreed and that's fine. We all have opinions.

To me, a non-call played a major part in this game with about 5 minutes to go and X was up 6. Reynolds was positioning himself to score over Happ, who reached in to slap the ball away. It looked like a foul at the time, replays showed it should have been a foul and Steve Smith said it looked like a foul. It would have been Happ's fourth. More significantly, it prevented X from adding to its lead and it led to a Bucky fast-break basket. So it was a 4-point swing AND no fourth foul on Happ AND big-time momentum for Bucky, who had been reeling. Huge turn of events.

Sometimes no-calls affect a game as much as -- or more than -- calls.

This is all correct....but I'm definitely in the camp that X blew it because they shouldn't have put themselves in a position where the officiating mattered. They had no reason to let Wisconsin keep it that close...terrible job by X.

#AnyonebutWisconsin

[mu03eng]

They should be executed with the same gun that shot Showalter last night.

Agreed....made a joke on twitter last night, wondering if Wisconsin was going to send OJ to find the real sniper that got Showalter. I stand by that joke.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Agreed....made a joke on twitter last night, wondering if Wisconsin was going to send OJ to find the real sniper that got Showalter. I stand by that joke.

[keefe]

I think it is just a result of only have one major state school program in-state, especially because of it being the only football program. Everyone just thinks cheering for UW is the default. And it just carries over to basketball, even when there are other D1 programs.

You don't get that when there's Iowa-Iowa State, Michigan-Michigan State, etc. to choose from.

It is what it is. I don't begrudge Wisconsinsites rooting for the Badgers. I just don't understand the obsession with taunting MU fans when Bucky gets a taste of success.

I was just going to comment on this. In WA there is a clear divide between U Dub and Wazzou but, as with the Oregon - Oregon State rivalry, this is a friendly thing as families tend to have DNA in both camps. (DoT actually has a license plate that has both purple and red lettering for those families)

What is fascinating, though, is that when the Zags are making a run the whole state gets behind them in a way that Wisconsinonians never would support Marquette.

This is just my opinion but I always found people from WI to be some of the most parochial folks I have come across.

[keefe]

It is the Marquette alum that cheers for Wisconsin almost as much as they do Marquette. I have at least two "friends" that were super excited about last nights win and were wearing badger clothes while watching....both Marquette grads who have season tickets to MU games.

Then they shouldn't be your "friends" goddamit.

[mu03eng]

This is just my opinion but I always found people from WI to be some of the most parochial folks I have come across.

There are folks in Boston sharpening their pitchforks and lighting torches at this comment

[tower912]

In an effort to keep this "fair" I think there is a terrible scourge within the Marquette fanbase as well that should be rooted out. It is the Marquette alum that cheers for Wisconsin almost as much as they do Marquette. I have at least two "friends" that were super excited about last nights win and were wearing badger clothes while watching....both Marquette grads who have season tickets to MU games. They always use the "I grew up in Wisconsin" excuse, which is just total garbage. You don't get to have two teams (who hate each other) as teams you root for so you almost always have a positive outcome. These people must be stopped.

You clearly have an unhealthy obsession.

[KenoshaWarrior]

There are folks in Boston sharpening their pitchforks and lighting torches at this comment

New england and Ohio are probably above wisconsin. Good call

[mu03eng]

You clearly have an unhealthy obsession.

I'm quite certain I do, but the good thing is certain individuals who might indicate such things aren't visible to me so I can't possibly realize it

[Johnny B]

Gonzaga, Wisconsin 16 plus straight NCAAs.. Jeez I it seems like we are completly lacking compared to these programs you'd think we'd be on the same level with.. Ugh I miss the NCAAs. I'm sick of the excuses. we could miss 10 straight NCAAs and the nuts on here would still say oh we're young and respect the process. screw you guys. What's buckys excuse? They lose the coach and everyone from the final four team and sure enough it still is sweet as hell for them

[mu03eng]

Gonzaga, Wisconsin 16 plus straight NCAAs.. Jeez I it seems like we are completly lacking compared to these programs you'd think we'd be on the same level with.. Ugh I miss the NCAAs. I'm sick of the excuses. we could miss 10 straight NCAAs and the nuts on here would still say oh we're young and respect the process. screw you guys. What's buckys excuse? They lose the coach and everyone from the final four team and sure enough it still is sweet as hell for them

Might want to check your facts before you make a silly statement like that. Every one of their starters was on the Final Four(including Happ). Being young doesn't mean they're inexperienced.

[MerrittsMustache]

New england and Ohio are probably above wisconsin. Good call

I used to have a co-worker with an Ohio State helmet and Woody Hayes bobblehead sitting on top of his file cabinet...next to his diploma from the University of Toledo.

[Coleman]

In an effort to keep this "fair" I think there is a terrible scourge within the Marquette fanbase as well that should be rooted out. It is the Marquette alum that cheers for Wisconsin almost as much as they do Marquette. I have at least two "friends" that were super excited about last nights win and were wearing badger clothes while watching....both Marquette grads who have season tickets to MU games. They always use the "I grew up in Wisconsin" excuse, which is just total garbage. You don't get to have two teams (who hate each other) as teams you root for so you almost always have a positive outcome. These people must be stopped.

Yes, yes, yes. I grew up in Wisconsin and lived there for 22 years. I was never a Badger fan and never one shall I be. It was always MU or SLU (my parents' alma mater) bball for me. Never cared about college football. The Packers were more fun to watch anyway.

[We R Final Four]

I still don't understand why Miles Davis was playing off of Koenig when X was up 3 with ~11 secs to go.  Get is his face, he drives by you into the bigs.  If he scores, or UW scores, X is still up 1 with 5 -7 secs left.  Inbound, get fouled.  Instead Miles protects the lane (for some reason) and Koenig nails the 3.
That was the game to me, not the charge, or the 2nd 3 from BK.

X hasn't seen a team like Wisky, but Bluiett and Miles collectively played the worst games that I have seen them play in the last 2 years.

[Coleman]

This is just my opinion but I always found people from WI to be some of the most parochial folks I have come across.

This is true in a plethora of ways, that go well beyond college sports.

[keefe]

There are folks in Boston sharpening their pitchforks and lighting torches at this comment

Actually, you are quite correct. But remember that Boston is a collection of villages as opposed to a city.

Wisconsin has a more homogeneous northern European gestalt that makes it more insular.

People in Boston know of the larger world - they just feel superior to it.

Wisconsonians are far less aware of what lies beyond their borders and are therefore blissfully ignorant.

The difference while subtle is profound as it frames the respective weltanschauungs.   

[Warrior Code]

Damn, Keefe. You should write a thesis on that observation.