Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[RJax55]

Signing of Grimes is a game changer if it happens. Wojo & Co have invested all they can/could on landing him and a swing and miss would be tough for him to handle. IMO, this will be watershed moment for Wojo's career at MU. If he lands him, he might be off to building something here. If he misses, it could have the Rick/Joe W affect on him.

I guess you can say this about aspects of most fanbases, but jeez, there's a certain element here that always believes that despair is right around the corner.

[Loose Cannon]

Signing of Grimes is a game changer if it happens. Wojo & Co have invested all they can/could on landing him and a swing and miss would be tough for him to handle. IMO, this will be watershed moment for Wojo's career at MU. If he lands him, he might be off to building something here. If he misses, it could have the Rick/Joe W affect on him.

No, don't think so. This is not an intersection of if we go up or down in the future.  Q looks to be a great Guard, but he is not a savior of Wojo,s  program.  There will be other Guards and other players to keep an upward process.  Q is the perfect fit Now, but there will be good recruits after he leaves, whenever that happens.

[cheebs09]

I think we are overestimating how much time Wojo us invested. Were we on him much before Joey committed? Don't get me wrong, it's obvious Wojo has been trying as hard to get him as he can and he would be a huge get. However, if he goes elsewhere, I wouldn't equate it to Crean reevaluating things after not getting Shumpert. Or a Majerus and Joe Wolf scenario.

[muguru]

Signing of Grimes is a game changer if it happens. Wojo & Co have invested all they can/could on landing him and a swing and miss would be tough for him to handle. IMO, this will be watershed moment for Wojo's career at MU. If he lands him, he might be off to building something here. If he misses, it could have the Rick/Joe W affect on him.

If anyone remembers, a similar situation is what finally led to Crean leaving MU...the failure to land Iman Shumpert after recruiting him longer/harder then just about anyone was the straw that broke the camels back for TC...and made him leave for IU.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Signing of Grimes is a game changer if it happens. Wojo & Co have invested all they can/could on landing him and a swing and miss would be tough for him to handle. IMO, this will be watershed moment for Wojo's career at MU. If he lands him, he might be off to building something here. If he misses, it could have the Rick/Joe W affect on him.

Ehhhh.  Even blue bloods swing and miss at these types all the time.  How likely is it to get a likely 1 and done from a Houston suburb to come up to Milwaukee to play college ball?  Unlikely.  Add into the fact that he could pretty much go to any school he wanted - more unlikely.  I still think we have a great chance to land Grimes, but I doubt Wojo loses confidence in what he is building if it doesn't work out.

[blikemike2]

If anyone remembers, a similar situation is what finally led to Crean leaving MU...the failure to land Iman Shumpert after recruiting him longer/harder then just about anyone was the straw that broke the camels back for TC...and made him leave for IU.

Maybe Shumpert got something under the table, ahem cough cough LOUISVILLE

[Goose]

Jamil

I think we land him. That said, a miss very possibly changes the bar on who Wojo recruits and where time/money is spent. This is a bigger get for Wojo than for the program, IMO.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Jamil

I think we land him. That said, a miss very possibly changes the bar on who Wojo recruits and where time/money is spent. This is a bigger get for Wojo than for the program, IMO.

Miss on one 5 star recruit (while having another in tow for 2018) and decide to give up on recruiting big fish our primary region? To me, that would indiciate more about Wojo than anything else.  I just don't see it playing out that way. 

[Goose]

Jamil

Lets agree to disagree for 1000 time.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Maybe Shumpert got something under the table, ahem cough cough LOUISVILLE

The Shumpert recruitment was right before I became an MU fan - we were in the same freshman class.  So basically, I'm not that aware of the how things went down, but I see it mentioned here alot.  Shumpert went to Georgia Tech for christ sake...how was that such a big deal? Its not like a Duke/Kentucky/Kansas/Arizona came in last minute it swooped him away.  He went to an average at best ACC school.  Recruits make those types of decisions all the time - choosing 1 school over another.  Why was that such a big deal?

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Jamil

Lets agree to disagree for 1000 time.

Sure, we shall see.  I just prefer not to concern myself that the world is ending around every corner. I do agree that the Grimes recruitment is very important for MU hoops - lets hope we close the deal.

[Goose]

Jamil

Where is the world ending? By no means does a miss mean Wojo cannot have success. Simply, he may decide that recruiting against bluebloods is tough battle and better left undone. Not sure how that makes the world ending.

[MuMark]

Jamil

I think we land him. That said, a miss very possibly changes the bar on who Wojo recruits and where time/money is spent. This is a bigger get for Wojo than for the program, IMO.

Ridiculous.......as usual people are way over the top.on 1 player.

Wojo will continue to recruit the best players that he thinks he can get. Reread  Big Daddys post regarding how the staff handles recruiting.

If losing 1 player alters your strategy you are in the wrong business.

Hopefully we get him......I have my doubts that we will....but you people are setting yourself up for despair if we miss.......it's a ridiculous way to approach recruiting from a fan perspective.

We already got our top target for this class.........if we miss we miss.....still going to,have a talented roster next season and beyond.

For Gods sake chill out.

[TrueWarrior]

The Shumpert recruitment was right before I became an MU fan - we were in the same freshman class.  So basically, I'm not that aware of the how things went down, but I see it mentioned here alot.  Shumpert went to Georgia Tech for christ sake...how was that such a big deal? Its not like a Duke/Kentucky/Kansas/Arizona came in last minute it swooped him away.  He went to an average at best ACC school.  Recruits make those types of decisions all the time - choosing 1 school over another.  Why was that such a big deal?

Pretty obvious. Crean felt that it wouldn't have happened if he was recruiting him for a school such as an Indiana. He lost out to some other big names that he was on that blue bloods came in late and got. Bobby Frasor who committed to UNC. As already noted this was a final straw scenario for crean.

[DCHoopster]

Pretty obvious. Crean felt that it wouldn't have happened if he was recruiting him for a school such as an Indiana. He lost out to some other big names that he was on that blue bloods came in late and got. Bobby Frasor who committed to UNC. As already noted this was a final straw scenario for crean.

Schumbert wanted to play for a black coach, his preference.  The issue for these coaches is that if you are going to play with the Big Boys you are not going to win very
often.. Mathews for Buzz.  Grimes mother went to Kansas, that is a problem.

[TinyTimsLittleBrother]

I think what Goose is saying is that this recruitment of Grimes could make the difference between Wojo believing or not that Marquette is a place that can be built back into an elite program.  If he is successful, than it can.  If he is not, then perhaps it cannot and that means Marquette is a stepping stone to another job.

I personally think it would take more than this one battle for this one player to lead him to that conclusion.

[Silkk the Shaka]

I think what Goose is saying is that this recruitment of Grimes could make the difference between Wojo believing or not that Marquette is a place that can be built back into an elite program.  If he is successful, than it can.  If he is not, then perhaps it cannot and that means Marquette is a stepping stone to another job.

I personally think it would take more than this one battle for this one player to lead him to that conclusion.

Agreed. Maybe if Wojo had been here a decade and lost on this one, but not after 1 tourney year. Especially since he has had some pretty big wins already to date. Wojo doesn't strike me as one to give up that easily/early.

[Goose]

Ellenson

I don't think Wojo gives up if Grimes goes elsewhere. Simply saying, multiple ways to build a program. I like swinging for the fences, but that might not be for everyone.

[DCHoopster]

Wojo won the most important battle this year, getting Hauser.  Now look at Greg Gard, he was all in for that one and lost.  Greg Gard's fault was that he put all his eggs
into that hat and lost, then lost Herro.  Double lost there, but both programs have talent already for the following 2 years.  Just means they have to work a little harder
the following year.  Wojo already has 13 players for the following year, he will be fine as well.  Sure it would be great to get a 5 star but from Texas, not easy.  Need Jimmy Butler to give him some Texas love.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Wojo won the most important battle this year, getting Hauser.  Now look at Greg Gard, he was all in for that one and lost.  Greg Gard's fault was that he put all his eggs
into that hat and lost, then lost Herro.  Double lost there, but both programs have talent already for the following 2 years.  Just means they have to work a little harder
the following year.  Wojo already has 13 players for the following year, he will be fine as well.  Sure it would be great to get a 5 star but from Texas, not easy.  Need Jimmy Butler to give him some Texas love.

Agreed!

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Ridiculous.......as usual people are way over the top.on 1 player.

Wojo will continue to recruit the best players that he thinks he can get. Reread  Big Daddys post regarding how the staff handles recruiting.

If losing 1 player alters your strategy you are in the wrong business.

Hopefully we get him......I have my doubts that we will....but you people are setting yourself up for despair if we miss.......it's a ridiculous way to approach recruiting from a fan perspective.

We already got our top target for this class.........if we miss we miss.....still going to,have a talented roster next season and beyond.

For Gods sake chill out.

+ tax.

[MUMountin]

The Shumpert recruitment was right before I became an MU fan - we were in the same freshman class.  So basically, I'm not that aware of the how things went down, but I see it mentioned here alot. Shumpert went to Georgia Tech for christ sake...how was that such a big deal? Its not like a Duke/Kentucky/Kansas/Arizona came in last minute it swooped him away.  He went to an average at best ACC school.  Recruits make those types of decisions all the time - choosing 1 school over another.  Why was that such a big deal?

Keep in mind that GT was just a few years off a national championship game when Shumpert committed there.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Pretty obvious. Crean felt that it wouldn't have happened if he was recruiting him for a school such as an Indiana. He lost out to some other big names that he was on that blue bloods came in late and got. Bobby Frasor who committed to UNC. As already noted this was a final straw scenario for crean.

Seems silly for a dude's final straw to be a recruiting loss to Georgia friggin' Tech.  But I suppose I understand the thought process.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Agreed. Maybe if Wojo had been here a decade and lost on this one, but not after 1 tourney year. Especially since he has had some pretty big wins already to date. Wojo doesn't strike me as one to give up that easily/early.

Mhhmmm.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Ellenson

I don't think Wojo gives up if Grimes goes elsewhere. Simply saying, multiple ways to build a program. I like swinging for the fences, but that might not be for everyone.

I hear ya Goose, and share your thoughts that landing him would be absolutely huge, both in terms of perception and fit with roster/potential for huge on-court results the year Grimes is here. Would likely lay the groundwork on many fronts for a highly successful Wojo tenure.

I just don't think the downside is nearly as great as you (or that there's much downside at all, quite frankly). Grimes going elsewhere instead of will only delay the massive breakthrough process slightly. On the other hand, him coming here would pour lighter fluid on it. We'll get there eventually either way, just might take more kindling depending on the outcome of this one.