Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[Lennys Tap]

Excellent, accurate post, Unk.

Even if I was "concerned," what would it accomplish? But I'm not particularly concerned for all the reasons you mentioned. Plus, as Sultan and Nukem said, it's not as if we have a choice.

Maybe dig up Al and go back to being an Independent?

No "concern" for you (or Sultan or Rico) because it's out of your control? Hilarious.  Thousands of posts on Scoop say otherwise.

[Newsdreams]

We like snow

Don't eat the yellow snow - Zapa

[The Sultan]

No "concern" for you (or Sultan or Rico) because it's out of your control? Hilarious.  Thousands of posts on Scoop say otherwise.

???  I have been bullish on the BE almost constantly since before the C7 broke away.

[MUfan12]

Anyone Marquette fan not at all concerned about the Big East today and the Big East going forward is  blind, stupid or both.

Not concerned about today. Long term, I'm definitely concerned that the football train leaves the station completely and schools like MU are left behind.

[rgoode57]

It is interesting that nearly everyone was very excited to have all three recruits commit to Marquette. If you go back and look, the threads are filled with positive comments about each one of them and strong wishes that they come to play for us. And, all three of them were being pursued by other major programs. But, now the collective attitude seems to be that this is a subpar recruiting class and that Shaka has fallen short of expectations. Why the change? Because a couple of ranking services published new lists.

Please allow me to make the following points:

1. Shaka Smart and his staff know far more about basketball than I will ever know, and Shaka has shown an ability to coach a little bit. As far as I am concerned, he gets to decide what players he wants.

2. MU is not going to get 5* players, and I don't care. I would much rather have 3* and 4* guys who are well-grounded individuals who represent MU well on and off the court rather than one-and-done guys who have no real commitment to anything except the NBA.

3. The priority is not necessarily to get the best individual players but, rather, to build the best team you can. Many a great individual player has been a detriment to his team.

4. Rather than judging the quality of the recruiting class from ranking lists, let's let it play out on the court over the course of a couple of seasons.

Ring out ahoya !

[Nukem2]

Not concerned about today. Long term, I'm definitely concerned that the football train leaves the station completely and schools like MU are left behind.

FB is always the elephant in the room. Not much they can do about that if P5 goes nuclear. If it happens, it's going to be a different world.

[Uncle Rico]

No "concern" for you (or Sultan or Rico) because it's out of your control? Hilarious.  Thousands of posts on Scoop say otherwise.

About Marquette or the Big East?  No.  Marquette needs a lot of luck and an elite coach to win a national championship.  That can happen in the Big East.  It can't happen in other leagues like the A-10 or such.  There are not going to be anymore Gonzaga's. 

The choice of the Catholic 7 after Pitt and Syracuse left was prudent and brilliant. 

[Lennys Tap]

???  I have been bullish on the BE almost constantly since before the C7 broke away.

OK - my mistake. You're not concerned because you're so bullish on the Big East going forward. I read the tea leaves differently, but whatever.

My LOL is for people who have made a career on Scoop sharing their "concerns" on scores of topics over which they have no control but who are unconcerned about Marquette's basketball future because it's out of their control. This is, after all, a Marquette basketball site, a'ina?

[4everwarriors]

I'll have to take credit that my lemon party included both gay and old guy references.

Sez da cowboy whose avatar reveals much 'bout his character, aina?


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[tower912]

MU has made the best of the situation that was imposed on it.  I expect they will continue to do the same.   However, it has been made clear that basketball does not drive the bus.    All MU can do is to continue to try to do the best they can with the cards they are dealt.

[Shooter McGavin]

MU has made the best of the situation that was imposed on it.  I expect they will continue to do the same.   However, it has been made clear that basketball does not drive the bus.    All MU can do is to continue to try to do the best they can with the cards they are dealt.

It's really is as simple as that.  All the Big East institutions need to keep investing in their programs to make our teams/conference as attractive as possible so that we will remain in the top tier of basketball programs.  They also have to hope that is good enough to be included in whatever form the top tier tournament takes going forward.  If that inclusion occurs the future is secure.

If we are not included that would be terrible for us and the school.  None of us will be on a D2 muscoop discussing D2 basketball if that occurs.

[Hards Alumni]

How come the young guys have shifted from gay jokes to old guy jokes?

Please let me know in which way you pearl-clutchers would like me to make fun of you next.

I've got other content if you're interested.

[Hards Alumni]

OK - my mistake. You're not concerned because you're so bullish on the Big East going forward. I read the tea leaves differently, but whatever.

My LOL is for people who have made a career on Scoop sharing their "concerns" on scores of topics over which they have no control but who are unconcerned about Marquette's basketball future because it's out of their control. This is, after all, a Marquette basketball site, a'ina?

I have shared the same concern, and think that quite a few around here are choosing to ignore the train barreling down the tracks towards us.  They're just ignoring the whistle a blowin'.

Having said that, there isn't much anyone on this board can really do about what is or isn't to come.

[Uncle Rico]

I have shared the same concern, and think that quite a few around here are choosing to ignore the train barreling down the tracks towards us.  They're just ignoring the whistle a blowin'.

Having said that, there isn't much anyone on this board can really do about what is or isn't to come.

There will be a split by the big boy football schools and the NCAA.  Revenue sharing from TV deals will eventually end up in the pockets of the athletes as well.  This is the reality.

However, the basketball side of the equation still allows for Big East schools to compete and compete to win.  The new Big East TV deal will be far better than what they have now.  The Big 14's new media deal spreads out its product across three venues and will have some of it end up (basketball-side) on streaming/Peacock.  There will be a demand for Big East basketball for inventory for the networks.

The other shoe to drop on the basketball side will be the age limit restriction for the draft being dropped and more realignment.  Basketball-centric schools left behind will need sensible homes that aren't the Mountain West.  We can read the tea leaves but a lot of them haven't dropped yet

[Hards Alumni]

I dunno man, if the big boys decide to make their own party and share none of the money the Big East could end up looking like D2 with a bunch of other of the left over schools.

[4everwarriors]

Please let me know in which way you pearl-clutchers would like me to make fun of you next.

I've got other content if you're interested.

Any content using that Whipped Ranch stuff Topper fell upon, hey?

[Hards Alumni]

Any content using that Whipped Ranch stuff Topper fell upon, hey?

Would this pass the smell test?

[Uncle Rico]

I dunno man, if the big boys decide to make their own party and share none of the money the Big East could end up looking like D2 with a bunch of other of the left over schools.

They won't for basketball.  The tournament will look different and the bottom 200 will be playing a lot of games to earn a spot at the table

[The Sultan]

They won't for basketball.  The tournament will look different and the bottom 200 will be playing a lot of games to earn a spot at the table

And I think the BE agree with the "big boys" when it comes to tournament expansion. More play in games for the low major conference champions that frees up more at large spots.

[WhiteTrash]

Please allow me to make the following points:

1. Shaka Smart and his staff know far more about basketball than I will ever know, and Shaka has shown an ability to coach a little bit. As far as I am concerned, he gets to decide what players he wants.

2. MU is not going to get 5* players, and I don't care. I would much rather have 3* and 4* guys who are well-grounded individuals who represent MU well on and off the court rather than one-and-done guys who have no real commitment to anything except the NBA.

3. The priority is not necessarily to get the best individual players but, rather, to build the best team you can. Many a great individual player has been a detriment to his team.

4. Rather than judging the quality of the recruiting class from ranking lists, let's let it play out on the court over the course of a couple of seasons.

Ring out ahoya !

1. Most high school coaches know more about basketball than anyone here, I don't want them coaching MU nor would I trust their talent evaluation for a Big East program. Also, I have never heard of a college coach who doesn't get to choose his players, so I don't the purpose of that point.
2. MU has gotten 5* players.
3. Agreed, but every bit of data shown overall the best talent (as defined by recruiting rankings) wins the vast majority (not 100%) of the time.
4. Also agreed. I also think it would be unwise to judge Shaka on one class.

I am 100% behind Shaka. We are lucky to have him.

[LAZER]

I dunno man, if the big boys decide to make their own party and share none of the money the Big East could end up looking like D2 with a bunch of other of the left over schools.

I'm curious to see who will actually be included in this new super conference and how cutthroat it gets. Lots of football schools that don't really bring anything to the table. Do Northwestern, TCU, Baylor, Duke, Wake Forest, BC have any value? Do they actually need multiple state schools from the same state?

[Uncle Rico]

I'm curious to see who will actually be included in this new super conference and how cutthroat it gets. Lots of football schools that don't really bring anything to the table. Do Northwestern, TCU, Baylor, Duke, Wake Forest, BC have any value? Do they actually need multiple state schools from the same state?

The money Alumni will decide the fates of those schools.  Northwestern will not be left behind nor will TCU or Duke

[Hards Alumni]

I'm curious to see who will actually be included in this new super conference and how cutthroat it gets. Lots of football schools that don't really bring anything to the table. Do Northwestern, TCU, Baylor, Duke, Wake Forest, BC have any value? Do they actually need multiple state schools from the same state?

What it would do it objectively change the landscape for those schools.  If the only tourney that anyone is interested in is within the mega conference, then players will gravitate towards those schools.  History will be rewritten rather quickly, and the have and have nots will drastically change overnight.

Would you attend Georgetown or Villanova if they couldn't play in the new "Big Dance"?  As a top player your goal should be to get to the NBA.  Period.  And having your name out there in the mega conference is paramount to playing at a traditionally 'good' basketball school.

Some of the schools you've listed would 100% be left out of the new 'mega conference' that is slowly coalescing.  They're not members of the B1G, SEC, or a select few other successful school they're out.  Plain and simple.  Most of the ACC, Big 12, and Pac12 will find themselves not members of the major conference either.

Of course, this is all speculation... but money talks, and the B1G and the SEC are absolutely in the driver's seat and we are just along for the ride.

[The Sultan]

Because I doubt that they will be leaving to run their own tournaments. Financially they are doing fine where they are and can use the NCAA infrastructure for everything but football.

[LAZER]

The money Alumni will decide the fates of those schools.  Northwestern will not be left behind nor will TCU or Duke

I'm not sure it's up to their alumni. They would be left out because other, larger schools have determined they are leaving money on the table by including them.