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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25325 on: April 09, 2020, 09:14:19 PM »
Osa season highlight video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=186&v=8Z2068pEULU&feature=emb_logo

Stirring the pot here - If we were going off highlight videos alone and we didn't know the rank of either player, I would have guessed Osa was more highly regarded than Dawson. This guy has the length and athleticism to be a legit game changing player at the NCAA level. Let's hope he continues to develop into a great player for our program.

He looks way less mechanical in this video than he did in the video I saw last year. Last year's video showed a ton of potential. This year's shows a ton of potential mixed with legit skill.

Obviously it's just a highlight tape, but it seems like he's improved a ton.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25326 on: April 10, 2020, 12:03:49 AM »
I think Dawson is the more college ready, but think Oso has the highest ceiling in this class. If it all comes together for him, he could be phenomenal.

Agree if it all comes together best case scenario a very poor man’s Pervis Ellison type which is not that bad 🙂
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25327 on: April 10, 2020, 12:08:13 AM »
What about frozena?

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25328 on: April 10, 2020, 12:18:54 AM »
Agree if it all comes together best case scenario a Pervis Ellison type which is not that bad.

I like Oso and look forward to seeing him. But he won’t ever be as good as Pervis. He is not even close to being the same type of player.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25329 on: April 10, 2020, 05:05:54 AM »
I like Oso and look forward to seeing him. But he won’t ever be as good as Pervis. He is not even close to being the same type of player.
Why the negativity? Please do it another board.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25330 on: April 10, 2020, 05:35:16 AM »
Pervis was always so...nervous

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25331 on: April 10, 2020, 06:59:59 AM »
Never!

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25332 on: April 10, 2020, 07:23:33 AM »
Pervis Ellison Freshman of the Year on a national title team?  Had to be toungue in cheek and Oso doesnt appear to be a 5
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25333 on: April 10, 2020, 08:31:39 AM »
Pervis was always so...nervous

Agree Pervis was never nervous until you compare him with Osa
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25334 on: April 10, 2020, 08:51:05 AM »
Why the negativity? Please do it another board.

Agree, Marquette gets enough bashing on the other boards. Was trying  to be positive, on the Marquette Board for the good of winning. 

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25335 on: April 10, 2020, 09:02:38 AM »
Not sure all of you knew this but there was a freshman kid who not many teams recruited and was sitting out his freshman year at MU who beat Milwaukee Buck All Star Ray Allen in one on one. Ray said get this Kid away from me.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25336 on: April 10, 2020, 09:03:44 AM »
Not sure all of you knew this but there was a freshman kid who not many teams recruited and was sitting out his freshman year who beat Milwaukee Buck All Star Ray Allen in one on one. Ray said get this Kid away from me.

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« Reply #25337 on: April 10, 2020, 09:08:37 AM »
Not sure all of you knew this but there was a freshman kid who not many teams recruited and was sitting out his freshman year at MU who beat Milwaukee Buck All Star Ray Allen in one on one. Ray said get this Kid away from me.

...Till Ray realized his team with Pierce Garnett and Rondo would never beat that kid then he called that kid up and said "hey you need some outside shooting if you wanna beat the Spurs"
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25338 on: April 10, 2020, 09:20:55 AM »
Agree, Marquette gets enough bashing on the other boards. Was trying  to be positive, on the Marquette Board for the good of winning. 


Being over the top about recruits doesn't lead to winning.  It leads to outsized expectations that become "wow, I thought this guy was going to be better than this" type comments come November.

I have a very simple rule for recruits and expectations.  Don't pay attention to mix tapes.  Don't pay attention to breathless reports from recruiting gurus.  Wait until they actually hit the court and see what they bring.
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25339 on: April 10, 2020, 09:30:33 AM »

Being over the top about recruits doesn't lead to winning.  It leads to outsized expectations that become "wow, I thought this guy was going to be better than this" type comments come November.

I have a very simple rule for recruits and expectations.  Don't pay attention to mix tapes.  Don't pay attention to breathless reports from recruiting gurus.  Wait until they actually hit the court and see what they bring.

Excuse you Dodd's has never been off about comparing a recruit to two NBA all stars or Marquette greats and "putting them in a blender"
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25340 on: April 10, 2020, 09:45:52 AM »
Not sure all of you knew this but there was a freshman kid who not many teams recruited and was sitting out his freshman year at MU who beat Milwaukee Buck All Star Ray Allen in one on one. Ray said get this Kid away from me.

Was it Guy Lam?

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25341 on: April 10, 2020, 12:12:06 PM »
I like Oso and look forward to seeing him. But he won’t ever be as good as Pervis. He is not even close to being the same type of player.

Respectfully, brand, how do you know?
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25342 on: April 10, 2020, 02:11:11 PM »
I'm NOT saying they're the same player.  NOT saying he'll become a fraction of this guy.  NOT making that leap at all.

However.......he does have some Giannis in his game, especially if he continues to grow and improves his ball handling.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25343 on: April 10, 2020, 02:18:32 PM »
Respectfully, brand, how do you know?

Nobody ever "knows".

But Pervis was a great, great college player, Concensus All-American. No.1 pick in the NBA draft.

To think Oso could be as good as Pervis is to think he will be as good of a player at MU as Markus was. I'm not buying it.

There is also nothing similar about their style of play, so Pervis is a very odd choice for a comparison.

But, anything can happen.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25344 on: April 10, 2020, 02:21:19 PM »
I'm NOT saying they're the same player.  NOT saying he'll become a fraction of this guy.  NOT making that leap at all.

However.......he does have some Giannis in his game, especially if he continues to grow and improves his ball handling.

Maybe true, but there are hundreds of guys that have "some" Jordan in their game. They aren't now nor will they ever be Jordan.

I just find it funny that a guy who was not a top 10 or top 50 recruit is being compared to guys who are/were truly great basketball players before he ever sets foot on the court for the Warriors.

At least your comparison makes a bit of sense. His style is certainly closer to Giannis than it is to Ellison.
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25345 on: April 10, 2020, 02:25:07 PM »
Maybe true, but there are hundreds of guys that have "some" Jordan in their game. They aren't now nor will they ever be Jordan.

Absolutely.  Just saying with his height/size and ball handling ability, it's a very unique skillset.

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« Reply #25346 on: April 10, 2020, 02:27:32 PM »
Absolutely.  Just saying with his height/size and ball handling ability, it's a very unique skillset.

Onepost, I certainly would have agreed with that 10 years ago. But 6'10" guys that can play all over the court are everywhere now.

While I disagree, I hope you guys are right and I am wrong.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25347 on: April 10, 2020, 02:31:20 PM »
Onepost, I certainly would have agreed with that 10 years ago. But 6'10" guys that can play all over the court are everywhere now.

While I disagree, I hope you guys are right and I am wrong.

What???  They are???  What sport am I not watching where Kevin Durants are a commonality?

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« Reply #25348 on: April 10, 2020, 02:41:04 PM »
What???  They are???  What sport am I not watching where Kevin Durants are a commonality?

I didn't say they were all stars like KD.

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« Reply #25349 on: April 10, 2020, 02:51:41 PM »
Onepost, I certainly would have agreed with that 10 years ago. But 6'10" guys that can play all over the court are everywhere now.

While I disagree, I hope you guys are right and I am wrong.

There weren't many in the Big East.  Especially depends on what you consider "can play all over the court".

Maybe, maybe Mamu, Tyrique Jone, Paul Reed, and Robinson-Earl.  Not a big list for the best conference in college bball last season.

 

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