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Author Topic: Recruiting as of 5/15/20  (Read 4084637 times)

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25250 on: April 07, 2020, 01:02:06 PM »
The one that always bothered me was how poorly the DJ Newbill situation was handled. Cut at the last second & strung along: https://www.inquirer.com/philly/hp/sports/20100701_Newbill_cut_loose_by_Marquette.html

Newbill went on to be an absolute beast. That late in game he jumped on Southern Miss offer and made all freshman team in Conference USA
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This is what I do not want to go back to. Right now we have 3 open scholarships. Wojo needs to pass on Mane, if he fills the three scholarships before Mane decides.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25251 on: April 07, 2020, 01:05:10 PM »

Buzz was off with a lot of guys.  Especially from high school.  His biggest recruiting misses were usually overly athletic players who peaked early.  Smith, Jones, Ferguson, etc.

Man what a miss that was. Top 100 recruit who not only underperformed at MU, transferred to a low major program at NC Central and scored 160 pts...TOTAL in 2 years, rough. Not Kevin Menard bad, but on the Mt Rushmore of underperforming recruits of the last 25 years.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25252 on: April 07, 2020, 01:14:05 PM »
Man what a miss that was. Top 100 recruit who not only underperformed at MU, transferred to a low major program at NC Central and scored 160 pts...TOTAL in 2 years, rough. Not Kevin Menard bad, but on the Mt Rushmore of underperforming recruits of the last 25 years.

My recollection was he wasn't even top 100 by the time he arrived on campus.
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25253 on: April 07, 2020, 01:20:07 PM »
My recollection was he wasn't even top 100 by the time he arrived on campus.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25254 on: April 07, 2020, 02:30:57 PM »
Buzz was off with a lot of guys.  Especially from high school.  His biggest recruiting misses were usually overly athletic players who peaked early.  Smith, Jones, Ferguson, etc.

unrelated, but since we are going down memory lane; can somebody help my brain remember the 2008 class commits we lost after Crean bolted for Indiana? I only remember Tayshawn Taylor - and often think of him on those 2010/2011 & 2011/2012 teams - would have been special


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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25255 on: April 07, 2020, 02:37:30 PM »
unrelated, but since we are going down memory lane; can somebody help my brain remember the 2008 class commits we lost after Crean bolted for Indiana? I only remember Tayshawn Taylor - and often think of him on those 2010/2011 & 2011/2012 teams - would have been special


Also Nick Williams, a guard who went to IU and transferred to Ole Miss.  Buzz didn't try to keep him.
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25256 on: April 07, 2020, 02:39:02 PM »

Also Nick Williams, a guard who went to IU and transferred to Ole Miss.  Buzz didn't try to keep him.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25257 on: April 07, 2020, 03:37:49 PM »
Didn't Newbill's name pop up in the NCAA-Nike-Adidas scandal?

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25258 on: April 07, 2020, 03:45:55 PM »
This is what I do not want to go back to. Right now we have 3 open scholarships. Wojo needs to pass on Mane, if he fills the three scholarships before Mane decides.

Absolutely NOT...dumbest idea ever. If you fill the 3 scholarships and Mane wants to come..you take him. Period. You'd be an absolute damn fool as a Coach to turn down that kind of talent. You get the most talented players you can, and figure it out.
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25259 on: April 07, 2020, 04:16:05 PM »
Absolutely NOT...dumbest idea ever. If you fill the 3 scholarships and Mane wants to come..you take him. Period. You'd be an absolute damn fool as a Coach to turn down that kind of talent. You get the most talented players you can, and figure it out.
Nobody is filling 3 scholarships plus Mane this spring.

If we filled 2, and Mane still wanted to come, I'd eat my hat.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25260 on: April 07, 2020, 04:47:59 PM »
Christopherson could hardly dribble effectively at the high major level with his left hand as a freshman at MU.

Goes to show how much a kid can improve over time.  Went on to be a good player at Iowa State.  Worked out just fine for both parties.  Hard to argue with Buzz's success at MU.

If I remember right, Christopherson had a minor knee surgery before his freshman year, and missed some of the non-conference. He made a big shot against Cincy that year. He wasn’t the quickest, but had a great shot. Adding him to the Midget team would have been fun with their ball movement and shooting.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25261 on: April 07, 2020, 05:02:13 PM »
This is what I do not want to go back to. Right now we have 3 open scholarships. Wojo needs to pass on Mane, if he fills the three scholarships before Mane decides.
? The scenario of a potentially desperate coach passing on a one and done, top 40 recruit would never happen. I understand you would like for MU to take the high road....but if f Mane can help the team win next year....he would be welcome with open arms.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25262 on: April 07, 2020, 06:06:10 PM »
Article in SI on Mane...

https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/news/karim-manes-future-still-uncertain-due-to-covid-19

Though Mane remains steadfast in his desire to visit the programs, he and Hertzog have discussed the possibility of committing to a university without setting foot on campus.

"What's important for me an my family is just to take a visit, visit the school and get to see the facility in person and everything before making a decision, we're kind of set on that right now," Mane said. "Eventually if the situation forces us to make a decision without visiting, than I'll probably have to talk to my parents about it again."
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25263 on: April 07, 2020, 06:15:17 PM »
He gowne, hey?
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25264 on: April 07, 2020, 06:23:39 PM »
Mediocrity sucks. But I digress. Couldn’t Mane come to Milwaukee on his own? Walk the campus. Check-out Fiserv. Doesn’t mean Wojo & Co have to be involved since we are in a dead zone. It would be no different than me walking around showing my nephew the Union, over to the library, the rec center etc. However, Wojo and staff have been on Mane’s turf before any other program. If that means anything, and campus visits are out the window, it should tip the scale in MU’s favor, IMO.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25265 on: April 07, 2020, 06:24:11 PM »
I think it’s pretty clear he’s waiting to visit Michigan State and then will commit there
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25266 on: April 07, 2020, 06:32:07 PM »
I think it’s pretty clear he’s waiting to visit Michigan State and then will commit there

Has he already visited MU?

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25267 on: April 07, 2020, 06:34:47 PM »
He was here for the Nova game.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25268 on: April 07, 2020, 06:46:28 PM »
Mediocrity sucks. But I digress. Couldn’t Mane come to Milwaukee on his own? Walk the campus. Check-out Fiserv. Doesn’t mean Wojo & Co have to be involved since we are in a dead zone. It would be no different than me walking around showing my nephew the Union, over to the library, the rec center etc. However, Wojo and staff have been on Mane’s turf before any other program. If that means anything, and campus visits are out the window, it should tip the scale in MU’s favor, IMO.

He's been here, thats the issue.

Hes going to Sparty.
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« Reply #25269 on: April 07, 2020, 07:05:22 PM »
Mediocrity sucks. But I digress. Couldn’t Mane come to Milwaukee on his own? Walk the campus. Check-out Fiserv. Doesn’t mean Wojo & Co have to be involved since we are in a dead zone. It would be no different than me walking around showing my nephew the Union, over to the library, the rec center etc. However, Wojo and staff have been on Mane’s turf before any other program. If that means anything, and campus visits are out the window, it should tip the scale in MU’s favor, IMO.
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25270 on: April 07, 2020, 07:09:47 PM »
My hope is, Izzo isn't willing to wait for him and Wojo is...but yes, after reading this I came to only one conclusion...he wants to go to Michigan State.
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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25271 on: April 07, 2020, 08:35:42 PM »
He's been here, thats the issue.

Hes going to Sparty.

Wouldn’t you?

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25272 on: April 07, 2020, 08:39:53 PM »
Wouldn’t you?

If I was the teenager? I’m sure Izzo can be compelling as none other and the results speak for themselves.

If I was an adult who a teenager was looking to for advice and guidance? Helllllllll no. That would literally be the very last program in this country I would ever advise my child to attend. That entire university is as bad as it comes. Covering up child abuse, sexual abuse, etc. all for what? A leg up on some athletic fields? Screw that entire university and the East Lansing justice system.

Izzo, like D’Antonio, can play the innocent victim, ignorance is bliss game. They’re as dirty and corrupt as anyone not named Nassar in that city. And that’s saying A LOT.

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25273 on: April 07, 2020, 08:45:07 PM »
Izzo, soap on a rope, brah?

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Re: Recruiting as of 3/15/20
« Reply #25274 on: April 07, 2020, 09:03:56 PM »
Ok gang, you are thinking like adults.

None of us knows what's in Mr. Mane's thought process. Perhaps he wants to see another school before he makes a final decision. Perhaps not.

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