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The Sultan

Quote from: brewcity77 on October 29, 2019, 10:28:41 AM
Not really. It was an offer to provide land and pay for a Coal Lodge style dorm that would have been at least among the best basketball dorms in the country.

And turning down a gift worth, conservatively, tens of millions of dollars, would be a really dumb punishment. Just one more reason the Pilarz/Williams tenure was an unmitigated disaster for Marquette basketball.


I don't think this offer of a new residence hall is as black and white as it has been presented.  I will just leave it at that.
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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: brewcity77 on October 29, 2019, 10:28:41 AM
Not really. It was an offer to provide land and pay for a Coal Lodge style dorm that would have been at least among the best basketball dorms in the country.

And turning down a gift worth, conservatively, tens of millions of dollars, would be a really dumb punishment. Just one more reason the Pilarz/Williams tenure was an unmitigated disaster for Marquette basketball.

I may be biased as someone who hates cold weather (yet loved my time at MU), but if you want to have a better chance of pulling from a larger pool, I think a state of the art residence hall that would offer tons of indoor amenities (maybe even a walkway to the AL) could help win a lot more 50/50 battles. I really hope another offer like that materializes soon... or that we can find it in the budget to make it happen independently

Dawson Rental

Quote from: shoothoops on October 29, 2019, 09:47:09 AM
Mods,

Would it be possible to have two separate recruiting threads? One can be labeled MU recruiting news. One can be labeled recruiting discussion. This is a sincere request, thanks.

I get why you want this, but do you really think that labeling a thread recruiting news would keep discussion out?  Do you think that unpaid volunteer moderators would have time to police this?  It's a nice idea -- just like world peace.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

GOO

I understand why a basketball dorm might be needed or help with recruitment.  Maybe that is just the way it is to complete with a Louisville, KY, etc. 

But I also understand Marquette wanting the players to be part of the greater Marquette community and part of the college experience a bit more.  Being completely isolated from the regular students and school is not ideal.  It might look flashy on a visit, but in the long term a lot of what makes college a learning and growing experience is what happens in interactions between students with different experiences.... being part of a greater community with unique people.  I know that has been a goal of Marquette, to not have the basketball team run as a totally separate entity from the school.  They've done a good job with that... I hope that can continue.  But I do understand if a flashy dorm with special amenities is needed for recruiting.

Herman Cain

Quote from: 4everDawson on October 29, 2019, 11:02:04 AM
I get why you want this, but do you really think that labeling a thread recruiting news would keep discussion out?  Do you think that unpaid volunteer moderators would have time to police this?  It's a nice idea -- just like world peace.
I like that Zaire Wade has a sense of humor. His instagram name is 346 which is his current 247 ranking.  If we still need a point guard, he is available.
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muguru

Quote from: GOO on October 29, 2019, 11:23:19 AM
I understand why a basketball dorm might be needed or help with recruitment.  Maybe that is just the way it is to complete with a Louisville, KY, etc. 

But I also understand Marquette wanting the players to be part of the greater Marquette community and part of the college experience a bit more.  Being completely isolated from the regular students and school is not ideal.  It might look flashy on a visit, but in the long term a lot of what makes college a learning and growing experience is what happens in interactions between students with different experiences.... being part of a greater community with unique people.  I know that has been a goal of Marquette, to not have the basketball team run as a totally separate entity from the school.  They've done a good job with that... I hope that can continue.  But I do understand if a flashy dorm with special amenities is needed for recruiting.

Just so you know, a dorm like that, and like what Kentucky has, does have to include a certain % of regular students as well.
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I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Boozemon Barro

Forget the dorms. Give them a bigger envelope of cash than the other schools will.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: muguru on October 29, 2019, 11:41:07 AM
Just so you know, a dorm like that, and like what Kentucky has, does have to include a certain % of regular students as well.

Also, it's called classes. They'll still go to classes.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: muguru on October 29, 2019, 11:41:07 AM
Just so you know, a dorm like that, and like what Kentucky has, does have to include a certain % of regular students as well.

The athletic dorm at Louisville included Interpretive Dance majors.

LoudMouth

#22084
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on October 29, 2019, 01:29:37 PM
Also, it's called classes. They'll still go to classes.
Had plenty of classes (gen eds) with MUBB in my time...."student experience/interaction" does not exist. Attendance barely existed

onepost

Quote from: LoudMouth on October 29, 2019, 01:41:51 PM
Had plenty of classes (gen eds) with MUBB in my time...."student experience/interaction" does not exist. Attendance barely existed

I was assigned to take notes for Todd Mayo my freshman year

dgies9156

Quote from: onepostdavis on October 29, 2019, 02:22:36 PM
I was assigned to take notes for Todd Mayo my freshman year

Could he read them?


MuMark

Quote from: onepostdavis on October 29, 2019, 02:22:36 PM
I was assigned to take notes for Todd Mayo my freshman year

Who assigned you and why didn't you tell them no?

LoudMouth

Quote from: onepostdavis on October 29, 2019, 02:22:36 PM
I was assigned to take notes for Todd Mayo my freshman year
Todd was in my Philosophy class for his last year at Marquette. He had two phones out which he somehow managed to be on both at the same time the few days he showed up

Sorry to change subjects though...back to recruiting

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: GarciasWorld on October 29, 2019, 09:59:51 AM
I'm thinking it comes down to how comfortable he is with the players in the Marquette program.  He's built his relationship with the coaching staffs of each program, he's seen both programs' facilities, and he's heard the recruiting pitches.  If he was so blown away by IU's facilities that he can't pass them up unless Marquette can match them, well, he wouldn't bother visiting because he's already seen everything Marquette has to offer on his first official visit.  He knows the recruiting pitch for both programs.  My guess is that he's more comfortable with the IU team since he played with some of those guys previously, so he wants to see how he fits in at Marquette.  My hope is the MN connection with Theo and Sacar helps and then he gets along with the underclassmen he'll be here with.  Would be great if they could get Lewis on campus the same weekend as they've built a relationship through USA Basketball as well.

Maybe Jay Bee can answer better but this whole thing on playing  with the current IU recruits seems to have taken on a life of its own.  Leal and Galloway play for Indiana Elite.  To the best of my knowledge Garcia does not. Also, neither one of them are Top 100 guys.  Our two verbals are.
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Loose Cannon

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 29, 2019, 01:41:32 PM
The athletic dorm at Louisville included Interpretive Dance majors.

Good one.
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JakeBarnes

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on October 29, 2019, 02:39:13 PM
Maybe Jay Bee can answer better but this whole thing on playing  with the current IU recruits seems to have taken on a life of its own.  Leal and Galloway play for Indiana Elite.  To the best of my knowledge Garcia does not. Also, neither one of them are Top 100 guys.  Our two verbals are.

Leal is 100 on composite. It seems they met at the Adidas Gauntlet or something. Not much more than Dawson met Lewis at USA basketball camp.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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Cheeks

Quote from: GOO on October 29, 2019, 11:23:19 AM
I understand why a basketball dorm might be needed or help with recruitment.  Maybe that is just the way it is to complete with a Louisville, KY, etc. 

But I also understand Marquette wanting the players to be part of the greater Marquette community and part of the college experience a bit more.  Being completely isolated from the regular students and school is not ideal.  It might look flashy on a visit, but in the long term a lot of what makes college a learning and growing experience is what happens in interactions between students with different experiences.... being part of a greater community with unique people.  I know that has been a goal of Marquette, to not have the basketball team run as a totally separate entity from the school.  They've done a good job with that... I hope that can continue.  But I do understand if a flashy dorm with special amenities is needed for recruiting.

Remember, NCAA rules prevent a b-ball or football dorm.  These dorms MUST have at least 51% regular students, not student athletes.
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Cheeks

Quote from: onepostdavis on October 29, 2019, 02:22:36 PM
I was assigned to take notes for Todd Mayo my freshman year


S h o c k i n g

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: LoudMouth on October 29, 2019, 02:33:53 PM
Todd was in my Philosophy class for his last year at Marquette. He had two phones out which he somehow managed to be on both at the same time the few days he showed up

Sorry to change subjects though...back to recruiting

He never should have been here and how he got here....
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

MU82

Quote from: MuMark on October 29, 2019, 02:32:47 PM
Who assigned you and why didn't you tell them no?

This was my question, too, especially the first half of it. Who "assigned" it?
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Golden Avalanche

Quote from: LoudMouth on October 29, 2019, 01:41:51 PM
Had plenty of classes (gen eds) with MUBB in my time...."student experience/interaction" does not exist. Attendance barely existed

Total opposite experience for me.

Hutch, Wardle, Clausen, Cliff, Henry, Harris, Diggs, ODB, and Wade. I was in three classes with Henry. Worked as a partnership, on our asking, in the latter two.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: LoudMouth on October 29, 2019, 01:41:51 PM
Had plenty of classes (gen eds) with MUBB in my time...."student experience/interaction" does not exist. Attendance barely existed

Idk when you were there but it was true during 09-14 but from what I saw after I left more than a few players were present at regular parties and were a bit more present around campus.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

onepost

Quote from: MuMark on October 29, 2019, 02:32:47 PM
Who assigned you and why didn't you tell them no?

Someone in the department approached me to take notes, I got paid for it.
Literally was no skin off my back, as I was taking those notes for myself anyway.

onepost

Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 29, 2019, 03:21:36 PM
Idk when you were there but it was true during 09-14 but from what I saw after I left more than a few players were present at regular parties and were a bit more present around campus.

100% the same feel I had.  My frosh year (2011) that team hardly ever interacted with the student body.  By the time I graduated (2015) you'd see most of those guys at house parties.

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