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JakeBarnes

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on October 28, 2019, 11:27:45 AM
from Indiana 247, interesting post-visit write up about what Indiana pitched to Dawson against Wojo...

"He really likes that Romeo Langford was an NBA lottery pick after his freshman year and still comes back and spends time at IU. He was really impressed how much time Langford spends at IU when he has time. (Romeo was on campus for around a week or so over the summer, staying with current IU point guard Rob Phinisee for a stretch.)

One thing that's interesting is, behind the scenes, it's no secret that Henry Ellenson, who played at Marquette and went to the NBA, doesn't speak highly at all of Marquette. Obviously the Hauser brothers transferred away from Marquette. So IU was able to juxtapose that to Langford"

I would think this would be very far down my list of concerns. I think that the Hauser saga is such an outlier that it's hard to hold against a coach. If he was looking for good connections to university, look to Wade, Butler, Crowder, Wes, etc. that survive coach. I'd be much more concerned about showcase, playing time and with it, on the court success. 

If I was Wojo, I'd talk about how Langford was supposed to be a top 5 pick and slipped considerably due to Archie's system.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

Herman Cain

Lets hope that Wojo and Staff can get one more bite at the apple with Dawson and Family. I think this  is a very classic recruiting scenario that who comes  down who got the last word in. 
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

At this point, I don't know what another MU visit would change.  Garcia knows everything Marquette has to offer.

Minnesota is apparently out, according to Gopher board.  I think Memphis is a longshot.  Looks like the decision will come down to Marquette or Indiana.

This is either going to be a great commitment or sucks to be second.

MuMark

Quote from: JakeBarnes on October 28, 2019, 11:49:30 AM
I would think this would be very far down my list of concerns. I think that the Hauser saga is such an outlier that it's hard to hold against a coach. If he was looking for good connections to university, look to Wade, Butler, Crowder, Wes, etc. that survive coach. I'd be much more concerned about showcase, playing time and with it, on the court success. 

If I was Wojo, I'd talk about how Langford was supposed to be a top 5 pick and slipped considerably due to Archie's system.

Or that Miller had Langford and Morgan....was 12-2 and ranked in the top 25....then proceeded to lose 12 out of their next 13 games and not even make the NCAA Tournament.........the slide we had at the end of the year isn't even in the same universe as the disaster that IU went through.

brewcity77

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 28, 2019, 11:42:57 AM

Yeah I just think getting him on campus is always a good thing.

If he's set on Marquette, having already taken an official here, I could easily see him committing without another immediate visit and taking his official later in the year, maybe for NMD or the SHU game. Or even for Villanova, when Karim Mane will be here.

If IU swayed him, I imagine he might want another visit right away to Marquette to confirm he's making the right decision.

Its DJOver

I think that there are still so many scenarios in play between in home visits, on campus visits, coaches calling, bags being dropped that its pointless trying to predict what every little action or inaction means.  Nothing that 18 year old's do surprises me anymore.  We've made our pitch, lets await his decision.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

MuMark

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on October 28, 2019, 12:00:31 PM
At this point, I don't know what another MU visit would change.  Garcia knows everything Marquette has to offer.

Minnesota is apparently out, according to Gopher board.  I think Memphis is a longshot.  Looks like the decision will come down to Marquette or Indiana.

This is either going to be a great commitment or sucks to be second.

Yep......when you go after this level of a recruit it hurts more when you miss out but it's going to happen more often then not. Let's hope he says yes.......but if he says no it is what it is........Wojo and Stan have done lots right to get into his final 2.....ultimately the kid can only choose 1 school.

Johnny B

If "hey Langford likes to visit IU" and " oh henry doesn't say anything great about marquette" sways a kid then so be it. I mean come on..

Johnny B

Quote from: muguru on October 28, 2019, 11:38:27 AM
Not to mention at MU, he can be around NBA players like Giannis, regularly. Some kids may value that, some may not.

Also, it was stated that It's uncertain right now if Dawson will take another visit to MU or not. He and his family will discuss it this week. The Minnesota insider said he has talked to two people about it and a decision maybe/probably(I took it to mean a commitment) coming this week.
Curious where and how often are they interacting with bucks players?

LoudMouth

Quote from: Johnny B on October 28, 2019, 12:18:05 PM
Curious where and how often are they interacting with bucks players?

This...I am sure it works as a recruiting technique but I just don't know how often they are interacting. It would be great to get some type of partnership there with media involved having Markus and Giannis working a soup kitchen together or something along those lines

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Johnny B on October 28, 2019, 12:18:05 PM
Curious where and how often are they interacting with bucks players?

I can think of one that's probably around a decent bit. And bucks players have been known to come to games I'm sure they pop in afterward.

There's probs more interaction when teams use the Al for practices before playing the bucks
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Dawson Rental

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on October 28, 2019, 11:27:45 AM
from Indiana 247, interesting post-visit write up about what Indiana pitched to Dawson against Wojo...

"He really likes that Romeo Langford was an NBA lottery pick after his freshman year and still comes back and spends time at IU. He was really impressed how much time Langford spends at IU when he has time. (Romeo was on campus for around a week or so over the summer, staying with current IU point guard Rob Phinisee for a stretch.)

One thing that's interesting is, behind the scenes, it's no secret that Henry Ellenson, who played at Marquette and went to the NBA, doesn't speak highly at all of Marquette. Obviously the Hauser brothers transferred away from Marquette. So IU was able to juxtapose that to Langford"

Is Indiana making the right call seeing Garcia just as a tall guy?  Maybe Garcia wants to know that if he becomes the focus of the offense, he won't get throttled down if others on the team don't like it (like a 5'11' guard, we know).
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Tha Hound

Quote from: Johnny B on October 28, 2019, 12:12:34 PM
If "hey Langford likes to visit IU" and " oh henry doesn't say anything great about marquette" sways a kid then so be it. I mean come on..

Agreed. If this is being heralded as a major part of his IU visit, then I am really not worried at all.

NickelDimer

Quote from: Johnny B on October 28, 2019, 12:12:34 PM
If "hey Langford likes to visit IU" and " oh henry doesn't say anything great about marquette" sways a kid then so be it. I mean come on..
I think the question is, are Henry and the Hausers the exception or the rule? I don't have a good read on Wojo's former player's feelings about him.
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forgetful

Quote from: 4everCrean on October 28, 2019, 12:38:55 PM
Is Indiana making the right call seeing Garcia just as a tall guy?  Maybe Garcia wants to know that if he becomes the focus of the offense, he won't get throttled down if others on the team don't like it (like a 5'11' guard, we know).

There was more to the IU post. Garcia apparently likes how they let Langford be a focus, and that they plan to let him face up on the perimeter.

Regarding Langford v. Ellenson. Seems like an easy thing to refute. Langford hasn't even played a game yet in the NBA. Ellenson does come around, just not as often, because he should focus on the NBA. Other former players rave about Wojo, both from Duke (e.g. Parker) and from MU (his players and other former players).

monkeyman34

Quote from: Johnny B on October 28, 2019, 12:18:05 PM
Curious where and how often are they interacting with bucks players?

I feel like there were quite a few stories back when Buzz was around, with Wes bringing Dirk to the Al to meet Gardner because he was his favorite player, and the Heat practicing at the Al and all the guys playing pick up with them? I'm sure it helps more when there is a former MU player on an NBA team and having those guys attend a game if it works, or having the team practice at the Al.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on October 28, 2019, 11:27:45 AM
from Indiana 247, interesting post-visit write up about what Indiana pitched to Dawson against Wojo...

"He really likes that Romeo Langford was an NBA lottery pick after his freshman year and still comes back and spends time at IU. He was really impressed how much time Langford spends at IU when he has time. (Romeo was on campus for around a week or so over the summer, staying with current IU point guard Rob Phinisee for a stretch.)

One thing that's interesting is, behind the scenes, it's no secret that Henry Ellenson, who played at Marquette and went to the NBA, doesn't speak highly at all of Marquette. Obviously the Hauser brothers transferred away from Marquette. So IU was able to juxtapose that to Langford"

What is Henry's beef with Marquette?  That they cut his brother after Henry went to the NBA?  Henry was given the keys to rebuilding program and was the focal point of the team, to a fault.  I don't blame him for going to the NBA and getting the money, but he obviously wasn't ready.  Not sure how Marquette is at fault for that. 
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TallTitan34

As someone on another board pointed out the Henry thing might not even be true. In interviews he had good things to say about Marquette when asked about the Hauser's and has been back to a few games.

It might just be a made up story by IU "insiders".

WarriorPride68

#21943
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 28, 2019, 12:58:50 PM
What is Henry's beef with Marquette?  That they cut his brother after Henry went to the NBA?  Henry was given the keys to rebuilding program and was the focal point of the team, to a fault.  I don't blame him for going to the NBA and getting the money, but he obviously wasn't ready.  Not sure how Marquette is at fault for that.

his mom went on twitter and was pretty vocal about it, this was arguably the main reaction alluding that the family was duped: https://twitter.com/HollyJElle/status/723274418882002944

Galway Eagle

Quote from: NickelDimer on October 28, 2019, 12:42:38 PM
I think the question is, are Henry and the Hausers the exception or the rule? I don't have a good read on Wojo's former player's feelings about him.

Henry and the Hausers would've been a good team nickname last year if he'd stayed all four years.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

MomofMUltiples

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on October 28, 2019, 01:04:43 PM
his mom went on twitter and was pretty vocal about it, this was arguably the main reaction alluding that the family was duped: https://twitter.com/HollyJElle/status/723274418882002944

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onepost

Would guess the Garcias have asked about both Henry and the Hausers during this recruitment and Wojo has explained both in detail.
That it would come up on an IU visit, juxtaposed to a comically underachieving Langford hanging with his old roommate for a week in summer, doesn't bug me whatsoever.  In fact, it probably makes me feel better about our chances if Archie needs to focus on taking shots at MU rather than focusing solely on the positives of IU.

94Warrior

Any movement on the Marketing Tool?  That is all you need to know 9 times out of 10.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: 94Warrior on October 28, 2019, 01:37:40 PM
Any movement on the Marketing Tool?  That is all you need to know 9 times out of 10.

Crystal Bowel still 1 for 1 (Mark Miller) for Marquette.

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JakeBarnes

Quote from: Tha Hound on October 28, 2019, 12:39:09 PM
Agreed. If this is being heralded as a major part of his IU visit, then I am really not worried at all.

I agree with you about this. Wojo can give Garcia exactly the things he seems to want: a good chance to be a key cog in our offense (a la Markus frosh year and Ellenson's one year), a strong team to compete with, and a path to the NBA. If those are the "why you shouldn't go there" points that archie is pushing out, it makes me feel like we really are in the drivers seat--that we were the one with the target on our back.

Looking forward to the staff trying to close this one out. Garcia in addition to our current crop of incoming recruits would be an absolute boon to the program and one very special team.
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