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Nukem2

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 24, 2017, 03:41:07 PM
Sure, fine.  Still currently have space for 2/3, in addition to Bailey. Chances that every scholarship player returns in 18-19 is not high.  That just is what it is in today's game.
Obviously, that could happen.  I was just making a clarification.

wadesworld

Has Grimes given any sort of timeframe for a decision?  Or discussed any visits he will make?

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: wadesworld on April 24, 2017, 03:52:57 PM
Has Grimes given any sort of timeframe for a decision?  Or discussed any visits he will make?

I thought I read somewhere this weekend that he would decide this summer after AAU season. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

HoopsterBC

Since they only have two juniors next year, I expect them to stay.  You have 4 sophomores, 1 is a transfer the other a red-shirt, and 2 of your best players, do not
see them leaving and then 4 frosh.  Already have 1 transfering, that is hard to believe right now.   I would think there would be an issue with Bailey then.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: HoopsterBC on April 24, 2017, 03:55:47 PM
Since they only have two juniors next year, I expect them to stay.  You have 4 sophomores, 1 is a transfer the other a red-shirt, and 2 of your best players, do not
see them leaving and then 4 frosh.  Already have 1 transfering, that is hard to believe right now.   I would think there would be an issue with Bailey then.

Not sure I follow this post 100%, but there isn't a problem with Bailey.

Stan literally just tweeted at him last week telling him HBD and that he can't wait until hes on campus in a year. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 24, 2017, 03:41:07 PM
Sure, fine.  Still currently have space for 2/3, in addition to Bailey. Chances that every scholarship player returns in 18-19 is not high.  That just is what it is in today's game.

I agree it's not likely but given the situation I'd be curious who'd be ousted
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on April 24, 2017, 04:02:24 PM
I agree it's not likely but given the situation I'd be curious who'd be ousted

Probably whoever is the last guy on the bench this year.  A full season for it to sort itself out. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

HoopsterBC

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 24, 2017, 03:58:23 PM
Not sure I follow this post 100%, but there isn't a problem with Bailey.

Stan literally just tweeted at him last week telling him HBD and that he can't wait until hes on campus in a year.

Basically you have 11 kids right now, Rowsey leaves, that is 10,  Bailey already signed.  That leaves 2 spots, after 3 to 6 more players.  Can only sign 14 tops, then
1 has to go.  Playing with fire then, who goes can become a problem as you have 8 freshman and sophomores.  Juniors going into there senior years do not leave
unless they finish college early, become grad transfers, then it is simple to run them off.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: wadesworld on April 24, 2017, 03:52:57 PM
Has Grimes given any sort of timeframe for a decision?  Or discussed any visits he will make?

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/five-star-quentin-grimes-bounces-back-at-adidas-gauntlet

Plans to cut his list in late June or July. Would imagine that he takes visits after that. Says he's enjoying the process so I wouldn't be surprised if this is a long recruitment.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: HoopsterBC on April 24, 2017, 04:12:42 PM
Basically you have 11 kids right now, Rowsey leaves, that is 10,  Bailey already signed.  That leaves 2 spots, after 3 to 6 more players.  Can only sign 14 tops, then
1 has to go.  Playing with fire then, who goes can become a problem as you have 8 freshman and sophomores.  Juniors going into there senior years do not leave
unless they finish college early, become grad transfers, then it is simple to run them off.

Let's just let it play out.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 24, 2017, 04:17:26 PM
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/five-star-quentin-grimes-bounces-back-at-adidas-gauntlet

Plans to cut his list in late June or July. Would imagine that he takes visits after that. Says he's enjoying the process so I wouldn't be surprised if this is a long recruitment.

Thanks TAMU...that was the article I saw.  Cut his list this summer...not necessarily decide. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

MU82

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 24, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
If it were to happen, I can't think of a bigger recruiting coup in Marquette history.

Um ... Terrell Schlundt! Hello!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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muguru

It's really simple..if Morrow, Joey and Grimes all want to come..you make room.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

brewcity77

Quote from: muguru on April 24, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
It's really simple..if Morrow, Joey and Grimes all want to come..you make room.

You say this regularly. What if Eke, John, Cain, and Elliott are all legit high major players? What if Froling is the second coming of Henry and Heldt is a reliable 10/7 guy? What if Cheatham bounces back and Anim is as good as Reinhardt described?

Do you axe Bailey before he hits campus? Tell Sam or Howard to take a walk? It's not always as simple as "make room", especially when the staff seems to be getting more legit high major four year players and fewer Erik Williams, Jamal Ferguson, Yous Mbao, and Wally Ellenson types.

VegasWarrior77

Quote from: muguru on April 24, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
It's really simple..if Morrow, Joey and Grimes all want to come..you make room.

I hope MU has numbers issues.... It means the team has vastly improved!
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 24, 2017, 04:50:05 PM
You say this regularly. What if Eke, John, Cain, and Elliott are all legit high major players? What if Froling is the second coming of Henry and Heldt is a reliable 10/7 guy? What if Cheatham bounces back and Anim is as good as Reinhardt described?

Agreed, but the chances of all of that playing out are, in fact, zero.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

MUEng92

Quote from: Big Daddy84 on April 24, 2017, 12:48:32 PM
These are my thoughts only:
JH  80%
I was not so pleasantly surprised this was not higher.

What's the opposite of the "so you say there is a chance" line?  Maybe simply adding a question mark, "so you say there is a chance?"

GoldenDieners32

Quote from: MUEng92 on April 24, 2017, 05:03:11 PM
I was not so pleasantly surprised this was not higher.

What's the opposite of the "so you say there is a chance" line?  Maybe simply adding a question mark, "so you say there is a chance?"
my friend said he talked to Homer and said there is probably a 99% chance Joey hauser comes here

Herman Cain

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 24, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
If it were to happen, I can't think of a bigger recruiting coup in Marquette history. He has offers from every blue blood. His mother is supposedly a huge Kansas fan. Every local power (TAMU, Texas, Baylor, Oklahoma etc) is making him a top priority. Would speak volumes about Wojo and Stan's recruiting ability.
We had a lot of guys who were first and second team Street and Smith in our glory days.
Glenn Rivers was thought by many to be the  number one high school player back in the day.  The guy dominated in Chicago.

Sometimes these highly ranked players don't work out as planned . Dwayne Johnson was second team Street and Smith and ended his career at UW Whitewater because he couldn't stay academically eligible.

All that said if we get Grimes it would be fantastic.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

muguru

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 24, 2017, 04:50:05 PM
You say this regularly. What if Eke, John, Cain, and Elliott are all legit high major players? What if Froling is the second coming of Henry and Heldt is a reliable 10/7 guy? What if Cheatham bounces back and Anim is as good as Reinhardt described?

Do you axe Bailey before he hits campus? Tell Sam or Howard to take a walk? It's not always as simple as "make room", especially when the staff seems to be getting more legit high major four year players and fewer Erik Williams, Jamal Ferguson, Yous Mbao, and Wally Ellenson types.

I'm willing to bet at least one of the four you stated first will/would be nothing more than a role player, his entire MU career and probably more than 1. Everyone's definition of "high major" player is different. regardless, I'd be willing to also bet large sums of money that NONE of the four listed would be anywhere near as good as Morrow, Joey or Grimes. And you aren't ousting Sam, Harry or Markus(3 of the 4 best players currently), that's ridiculous. I can think of at least two I think you could easily do without, possibly a third, especially if it's to "make room" for two top 25 talents and a kid who Wojo really wants(Morrow). Isn't a coach in the country that wouldn't "make room" for Grimes and Joey if needed.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

MuMark

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 24, 2017, 04:57:10 PM
Agreed, but the chances of all of that playing out are, in fact, zero.

It may be unlikely but it's not zero.

Im not a fan of oversigning.......if somebody leaves and you have room to take somebody in the spring fine.

To sign more players then you have spots for is to tell the entire team that if nobody wants to leave then we will decide who leaves. How does that help the culture?

How do you sell that to recruits? To their parents? If your son was recruited to play for MU and then a year later he was told " sorry we need your scholarship" my guess is you would be pretty missed off.

Sorry not a fan......

My guess is we won't get all 3 so it will be a moot point.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on April 24, 2017, 04:02:24 PM
I agree it's not likely but given the situation I'd be curious who'd be ousted

So your curiosity of a hypothetical comes from another hypothetical coming true to get closure on your original hypothetical's curiosity?

Seems like a lot of work.

muguru

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Quote from: MuMark on April 24, 2017, 05:15:30 PM
It may be unlikely but it's not zero.

Im not a fan of oversigning.......if somebody leaves and you have room to take somebody in the spring fine.

To sign more players then you have spots for is to tell the entire team that if nobody wants to leave then we will decide who leaves. How does that help the culture?

How do you sell that to recruits? To their parents? If your son was recruited to play for MU and then a year later he was told " sorry we need your scholarship" my guess is you would be pretty missed off.

Sorry not a fan......

My guess is we won't get all 3 so it will be a moot point.

Honestly, you know what I'd tell my son?? "Sometimes, there are kids that are more talented than you, and better then you son..that's how it is in all walks of life not just basketball, and if this is the worst thing that happens to you the rest of your life you are doing pretty darn good for yourself". Bottom line, whether we all like it or not..College basketball is a business, and Coaches get paid to/are expected to win. Lest we all forget scholarships are a year to year deal, there are no guarantees it will be all 4 years. Kids know that going in.

If a kid uses a situation like this to his advantage to get better, work harder etc, it will not only help him in his basketball career, but his life in general.

Life isn't fair all the time, it can be a great learning experience for a kid.

"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

brewcity77

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 24, 2017, 04:57:10 PM
Agreed, but the chances of all of that playing out are, in fact, zero.

Not at all. It may not be likely, but I've heard repeatedly how underrated Cain is. How ready John is to be an instant upgrade on defense. What if Elliott is the next unsung stud that recalls memories of Wade while Eke is a slightly better Ismael Sanogo?

It may not be likely, but it's far from impossible, and writing guys off as expendable before they hit campus is just ridiculous.

JWags85

Guys, we shouldn't get too excited about Grimes.  He has an offer from Utah St.  Forget Stan's recruiting chops or his mom's allegiance to the Jayhawks.  What 17 year old kid can pass up the opportunity to walk in the past footsteps of THE LEGEND?   QG to Logan.  Done Deal.

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