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Lennys Tap

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 09, 2016, 07:04:22 AM
No.

As a coach, you are always recruiting. Even after all your scholarships are filled. Bowden and Young getting offers have nothing to do with Markus Howard. Especially since they both play a different position than he does.

"Offer" is a very misleading term. Really means nothing more than the coach has verbally committed to being interested in a recruit. A recruit could "accept an offer" and the coach could still say "no, I'm not going to take you yet."

If a coach has two openings and 5 "offers" out there he would surely take commitments from his top 2 targets. If the guys who's #5 on the coach's wish list wants to commit he might ask him to wait a bit to see how things shake out.

MU82

Quote from: muballbuster on February 09, 2016, 07:56:46 AM
Check Jordan Bowden Twitter and Kalif Young's Twitter as of the last 24 hours.

Jordan Bowden (@JordyBow3)

Kalif Young (@youngkalif13)

Some MU chatter!

Watch it. Some folks here think it's "creepy" to follow a high school athlete on Twitter. Of course, some folks have interesting opinions about lots of things.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 09, 2016, 09:04:59 AM
If a coach has two openings and 5 "offers" out there he would surely take commitments from his top 2 targets. If the guys who's #5 on the coach's wish list wants to commit he might ask him to wait a bit to see how things shake out.

I think that's what I said.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


WarriorPride68

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 09, 2016, 07:04:22 AM
No.

As a coach, you are always recruiting. Even after all your scholarships are filled. Bowden and Young getting offers have nothing to do with Markus Howard. Especially since they both play a different position than he does.

"Offer" is a very misleading term. Really means nothing more than the coach has verbally committed to being interested in a recruit. A recruit could "accept an offer" and the coach could still say "no, I'm not going to take you yet."

Understood. A 247 writer told me his new piece on MH would be coming out today or Tmr so I thought it could be MH related

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Bowden looks interesting.  Obviously, you never stop recruiting, but it does seem a bit odd. Either Wojo isn't very confident in landing Markus Howard (or he isn't reclassifying), or he thinks someone is leaving.  Have to imagine Wojo wants to leave a spot open for a grad transfer, too.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 09, 2016, 09:07:54 AM
I think that's what I said.

I was clarifying what you said and agreeing with you.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 09, 2016, 09:20:56 AM
I was clarifying what you said and agreeing with you.

Gotcha, honestly not used to people agreeing with people on here, haha
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


wadesworld

Bowden is a 6'5" SF.  Howard is a 5'10" PG.  Not sure that one has anything to do with the other.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: wadesworld on February 09, 2016, 09:33:47 AM
Bowden is a 6'5" SF.  Howard is a 5'10" PG.  Not sure that one has anything to do with the other.

The fact that there are two only scholarships remaining for next year (assuming HE leaves) has something to do with one another.  If Bowden were to commit, that means either Howard isn't coming (whether that be he is going elsewhere or staying at 2017), or we aren't getting a PF, whether that be a Kalif Young or a grad transfer big.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

The Lens

Wojo could always adopt someone and pay his way...
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

wadesworld

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 09, 2016, 09:36:10 AM
The fact that there are two only scholarships remaining for next year (assuming HE leaves) has something to do with one another.  If Bowden were to commit, that means either Howard isn't coming (whether that be he is going elsewhere or staying at 2017), or we aren't getting a PF, whether that be a Kalif Young or a grad transfer big.

Yes, but then every single scholarship offer would have something to do with each other.  Every coach in college basketball, even Cal, knows he isn't going to bat 1.000 on recruits.  Just because some coaches give out 20 offers to a certain class doesn't mean they're expecting all 13 of their scholarship players not to return, plus to have 7 kids commit and then decommit.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: wadesworld on February 09, 2016, 10:04:28 AM
Yes, but then every single scholarship offer would have something to do with each other.  Every coach in college basketball, even Cal, knows he isn't going to bat 1.000 on recruits.  Just because some coaches give out 20 offers to a certain class doesn't mean they're expecting all 13 of their scholarship players not to return, plus to have 7 kids commit and then decommit.

I realize that. 2 scholarships is quite a bit different than 13 and this team needs a big next year in a BAAAADDDD way.  My guess is one scholarship will be saved for a grad transfer big. That basically leaves one, again assuming HE leaves.

Like I said, never stop recruiting.     
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 09, 2016, 09:20:13 AM
Bowden looks interesting.  Obviously, you never stop recruiting, but it does seem a bit odd. Either Wojo isn't very confident in landing Markus Howard (or he isn't reclassifying), or he thinks someone is leaving.  Have to imagine Wojo wants to leave a spot open for a grad transfer, too.

Offers ain't worth sh*t. A made up term to help fans understand who their coaches are interested in. Howard's recruitment hasn't changed in the slightest and no one is planning on leaving. Bowden is just also on the list as a possibility.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Herman Cain

Last year there were a couple of good examples of how the "offer" process works.

Matt Ryan, who ultimately went to Notre Dame, had "offers" from UNC , Duke etc. He had surgery and suddenly those offers disappeared pending his recovery,those schools strung him out and never did re offer. MU and Creighton got in the process at the end hoping to pick him up.  Notre Dame never wavered on their offer and then put some pressure on him to accept, which he did, as he stated he did not want to lose the offer.

Similarly, Matt Heldt  who was on the rise in recruiting,received a bona fide actionable offer from MU and accepted under the bird in the hand theory , knowing these things can change.

Recruiting is a juggling act on both sides. Everyone once in awhile  it gets screwed up like Buzz did with Newbill. 
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

WarriorPride68

Zags piece on Kalif Young today:

Young also holds offers from Marquette, Providence, Pittsburgh, Alabama, Minnesota, St. Bonaventure and Illinois State.

"Kalif is a very skilled lefty with college strength already," Blunt said. "He has incredible feel for the game and can shoot the ball consistently from 17 feet in, and the pick-and-pop 3. You can throw the ball to Kalif on the block and not only can he score, but he is an exceptional passer. He can hedge on ball screens and even switch out on guards in late-shot clock situations. He's a great kid with a great family.

"Kalif will be a household name before the year is out."

Blunt said Young is in "no rush" to make a decision.

muhoops1

Stan Johnson in Detroit to watch 2017 SF Jamal Cain according to Prep Hoops MI

https://youtu.be/q9pLravgqJM

forgetful

In an ideal world we sign:

Bruno Fernando or Khalif Young

and

Howard reclassifies to join MU's 2016 class. 

If my counts are correct, that would fill our class and if for some reason Wally decided to forgo his senior season to focus on High Jump, we would have a third spot for a grad transfer.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: forgetful on February 09, 2016, 08:14:49 PM
In an ideal world we sign:

Bruno Fernando or Khalif Young

and

Howard reclassifies to join MU's 2016 class. 

If my counts are correct, that would fill our class and if for some reason Wally decided to forgo his senior season to focus on High Jump, we would have a third spot for a grad transfer.

Sign me up for that!

WarriorPride68

Was Wojo at the SPASH game? Per twitter, Becky's HC was there. I assume somebody from mu went

JakeBarnes

Quote from: forgetful on February 09, 2016, 08:14:49 PM
In an ideal world we sign:

Bruno Fernando or Khalif Young

and

Howard reclassifies to join MU's 2016 class. 

If my counts are correct, that would fill our class and if for some reason Wally decided to forgo his senior season to focus on High Jump, we would have a third spot for a grad transfer.

The offer to Young is pretty nice. Kid really is really picking up steam right now and it sounds like he doesn't have a lean one way or the other. The mid-range game is an added bonus.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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WarriorPride68

Wojo watching Bruno tonight

tower912

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 11, 2016, 08:03:32 PM
Wojo watching Bruno tonight

He's too hot (hot damn).......    I don't believe he just watched.... don't believe he just watched...
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

WarriorPride68

Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2016, 08:08:37 PM
He's too hot (hot damn).......    I don't believe he just watched.... don't believe he just watched...

You win the Internet :)

bilsu

Quote from: The Lens on February 09, 2016, 09:47:53 AM
Wojo could always adopt someone and pay his way...
I could see Henry paying for Wally to allow us to use Wally's scholarship.


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