Recruiting as of 4/15/25

[GGGG]

I think the best thing for Wojo recruiting is to get us into tourney this year. Really enhances his sales pitch and ability to close the deal.

While it couldn't hurt, I am not sure how much that matters.  He is selling building the program and how a player will fit into that.

[jsheim]

Wow 17 pages in 2 weeks....got to be one of the most active threads around.

Anyway...not having seen all of what's come before in this thread...anyone have any insight into Kostas Antetokounmpo?
Being right here in Milwaukee and playing on the same floor as his brother got any weight (for or against?).

I heard he's looking at St. Johns closely.

I got to believe with his pedigree, DNA, and family...he could be great.  Hasn't he grown 4-5 inches in a short time?
I don't see much on the internet and don't have access to some articles.

[PGsHeroes32]

Wow 17 pages in 2 weeks....got to be one of the most active threads around.

Anyway...not having seen all of what's come before in this thread...anyone have any insight into Kostas Antetokounmpo?
Being right here in Milwaukee and playing on the same floor as his brother got any weight (for or against?).

I heard he's looking at St. Johns closely.

I got to believe with his pedigree, DNA, and family...he could be great.  Hasn't he grown 4-5 inches in a short time?
I don't see much on the internet and don't have access to some articles.

Started in August.

So far more than even 2 months lol

[wadesworld]

Bailey was a beast last night. 40 points and 11 rebounds on 11/14 2PFG, 3/6 3PFG, and 9/10 FTs.

But according to some here he'll have forgotten how to dribble a basketball and be 6'8" 120 by the time he's done with his mission and never make it to Marquette...

[brewcity77]

Wow 17 pages in 2 weeks....got to be one of the most active threads around.

Anyway...not having seen all of what's come before in this thread...anyone have any insight into Kostas Antetokounmpo?
Being right here in Milwaukee and playing on the same floor as his brother got any weight (for or against?).

I heard he's looking at St. Johns closely.

I got to believe with his pedigree, DNA, and family...he could be great.  Hasn't he grown 4-5 inches in a short time?
I don't see much on the internet and don't have access to some articles.

Think there's a very good chance he ends up going prep. Not just for exposure purposes, but to make sure there are no eligibility issues.

[GGGG]

Think there's a very good chance he ends up going prep. Not just for exposure purposes, but to make sure there are no eligibility issues.

And I am not sure that Wojo is interested in raw athletic types like Kostas anyway.

[jsglow]

Wow 17 pages in 2 weeks....got to be one of the most active threads around.

Anyway...not having seen all of what's come before in this thread...anyone have any insight into Kostas Antetokounmpo?
Being right here in Milwaukee and playing on the same floor as his brother got any weight (for or against?).

I heard he's looking at St. Johns closely.

I got to believe with his pedigree, DNA, and family...he could be great.  Hasn't he grown 4-5 inches in a short time?
I don't see much on the internet and don't have access to some articles.

I started this in mid summer and periodically update both the table and the 'as of' date.   

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

We can agree to disagree. Top 5 players coached by Kevin Boyle won't be coming to Marquette. If he didn't want to play for the best of the best he would have stayed in Canada instead of playing for Montreverde

Well, since Boyle took over Montverde in 2011, he has only had one top 5 recruit, Ben Simmons, who we are all familiar with. He did not go to a blue blood instead taking his talents to lowly LSU.

Since he has only had one top 5 recruit in his current role, I expanded the criteria to 5 star recruits. At Montverde, has had 3 of those besides Simmons: D'Angelo Russell the #16 player of 2014, Kasey Hill the #8 player of 2013, and Dakari Johnson the #10 player of 2013. 1 of those (Johnson) went to a Blue Blood (Kentucky). The other two went to very good but not blue blood programs in Ohio State (Russell) and Florida (Hill).

If we go back further to when Boyle was the coach of St. Patrick, we will find that he only ever had 3 five star players on his St. Patrick teams. They were Michael Kidd-Gilchrest the #3 player of 2011, Kyrie Irving the #2 player of 2010, and Corey Fischer the #23 player of 2007. The two top five recruits did end up at blue bloods with Kidd-Gilchrist going to Kentucky and Kyrie Irving going to Duke. Fischer ended up at Villanova.

So your premise of being a top 5 recruit (he's top 10 on 247 which I find to be the most accurate) on a Kevin Boyle coached Montverde meaning only a blue blood can get Shiittu is based on 2/3 top 5 picks going to blue bloods, where the 2 both happened at his old job, the 1 is the only one to happen in the past five years, and 3/7 of five star recruits going to blue bloods.

Unless you know something about Kevin Boyle that no one else does, I don't think its fair to say that only blue bloods have a chance at recruiting his top players. Again, I'm not optimistic, have no reason to believe Shiittu will end up here, but just declaring that he is going to a blue blood as if it is a fact is wrong. It might be an educated guess but is certainly not fact.

Oh, and one of those top 5 picks who went to a blue blood. Kyrie Irving? Guess who was the lead recruiter when he was at Duke before leaving to become a head coach? I think Wojo's relationship with Boyle is just fine.

[Herman Cain]

Well, since Boyle took over Montverde in 2011, he has only had one top 5 recruit, Ben Simmons, who we are all familiar with. He did not go to a blue blood instead taking his talents to lowly LSU.

Since he has only had one top 5 recruit in his current role, I expanded the criteria to 5 star recruits. At Montverde, has had 3 of those besides Simmons: D'Angelo Russell the #16 player of 2014, Kasey Hill the #8 player of 2013, and Dakari Johnson the #10 player of 2013. 1 of those (Johnson) went to a Blue Blood (Kentucky). The other two went to very good but not blue blood programs in Ohio State (Russell) and Florida (Hill).

If we go back further to when Boyle was the coach of St. Patrick, we will find that he only ever had 3 five star players on his St. Patrick teams. They were Michael Kidd-Gilchrest the #3 player of 2011, Kyrie Irving the #2 player of 2010, and Corey Fischer the #23 player of 2007. The two top five recruits did end up at blue bloods with Kidd-Gilchrist going to Kentucky and Kyrie Irving going to Duke. Fischer ended up at Villanova.

So your premise of being a top 5 recruit (he's top 10 on 247 which I find to be the most accurate) on a Kevin Boyle coached Montverde meaning only a blue blood can get Shiittu is based on 2/3 top 5 picks going to blue bloods, where the 2 both happened at his old job, the 1 is the only one to happen in the past five years, and 3/7 of five star recruits going to blue bloods.

Unless you know something about Kevin Boyle that no one else does, I don't think its fair to say that only blue bloods have a chance at recruiting his top players. Again, I'm not optimistic, have no reason to believe Shiittu will end up here, but just declaring that he is going to a blue blood as if it is a fact is wrong. It might be an educated guess but is certainly not fact.

Oh, and one of those top 5 picks who went to a blue blood. Kyrie Irving? Guess who was the lead recruiter when he was at Duke before leaving to become a head coach? I think Wojo's relationship with Boyle is just fine.

Are you going to put out an analysis of top 100 like you did last year?

[WarriorPride68]

Well, since Boyle took over Montverde in 2011, he has only had one top 5 recruit, Ben Simmons, who we are all familiar with. He did not go to a blue blood instead taking his talents to lowly LSU.

Since he has only had one top 5 recruit in his current role, I expanded the criteria to 5 star recruits. At Montverde, has had 3 of those besides Simmons: D'Angelo Russell the #16 player of 2014, Kasey Hill the #8 player of 2013, and Dakari Johnson the #10 player of 2013. 1 of those (Johnson) went to a Blue Blood (Kentucky). The other two went to very good but not blue blood programs in Ohio State (Russell) and Florida (Hill).

If we go back further to when Boyle was the coach of St. Patrick, we will find that he only ever had 3 five star players on his St. Patrick teams. They were Michael Kidd-Gilchrest the #3 player of 2011, Kyrie Irving the #2 player of 2010, and Corey Fischer the #23 player of 2007. The two top five recruits did end up at blue bloods with Kidd-Gilchrist going to Kentucky and Kyrie Irving going to Duke. Fischer ended up at Villanova.

So your premise of being a top 5 recruit (he's top 10 on 247 which I find to be the most accurate) on a Kevin Boyle coached Montverde meaning only a blue blood can get Shiittu is based on 2/3 top 5 picks going to blue bloods, where the 2 both happened at his old job, the 1 is the only one to happen in the past five years, and 3/7 of five star recruits going to blue bloods.

Unless you know something about Kevin Boyle that no one else does, I don't think its fair to say that only blue bloods have a chance at recruiting his top players. Again, I'm not optimistic, have no reason to believe Shiittu will end up here, but just declaring that he is going to a blue blood as if it is a fact is wrong. It might be an educated guess but is certainly not fact.

Oh, and one of those top 5 picks who went to a blue blood. Kyrie Irving? Guess who was the lead recruiter when he was at Duke before leaving to become a head coach? I think Wojo's relationship with Boyle is just fine.

-- also, he's #4 on 247. Your looking at Natl Comp where he is #9

I'm not sure why your so passionate about MU getting Simi. I'm just saying Simi won't be coming here. We can agree to disagree. Other top players will definitely chose MU

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Holy crap you have nothing better to do then argue about whether or not Simi craptu will come to Marquette? Let's lay down a wager. I'll bet you anything he won't

I'm not arguing whether or not he will come to Marquette. Odds are he won't. Most recruits don't end up at Marquette. I was arguing your statement that Kevin Boyle recruits only go to blue bloods. I hadn't heard that before so I decided to see if it was true. Seems it wasn't.

And sadly yes, I don't have anything better to do right now. In a hotel in Venice at the moment. Fiance is already asleep, TV is all in Italian, wifi is too slow for netflix and I've already responded to all my email for work.

-- also, he's #4 on 247. Your looking at Natl Comp where he is #9

-- your the one who said Wojo "got in early with Simi". When other power conference schools have offered months ago.

You are right, I should have clarified. I find 247's national composite to be the most accurate.

We did get in early with Simi. It'll be two years and change before he graduates. Just because other schools got in earlier doesn't change that. What I really meant by that though is that the blue bloods haven't offered yet, they are just watching. Sometimes that can make a difference to a player. Other times not. Will it this time? I have no idea.

I'm not sure why your so passionate about MU getting Simi. I'm just saying Simi won't be coming here. We can agree to disagree. Other top players will definitely chose MU

I'm not passionate about him coming here. I don't think he will. I just get annoyed when people state things as facts when they are opinions. You'll see similar posts from me directed towards all the "Henry is definitely gone posters."

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Are you going to put out an analysis of top 100 like you did last year?

I'd like to, but don't know if I will. I got a new job. Love it, but it keeps me a lot busier. That and wedding planning is surprisingly overwhelming. If I find the time, I'll do it again.

[real chili 83]

I'm not arguing whether or not he will come to Marquette. Odds are he won't. Most recruits don't end up at Marquette. I was arguing your statement that Kevin Boyle recruits only go to blue bloods. I hadn't heard that before so I decided to see if it was true. Seems it wasn't.

And sadly yes, I don't have anything better to do right now. In a hotel in Venice at the moment. Fiance is already asleep, TV is all in Italian, wifi is too slow for netflix and I've already responded to all my email for work.

Order a Dominos.

[MU82]

I just get annoyed when people state things as facts when they are opinions.

There's a lot of that here, and it's far more contagious than Zika.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Order a Dominos.

I LOLed.

If I order Dominos while vacationing in Italy, the birthplace of pizza, I'm pretty sure my Italian fiance would just end it right there. Might as well order pay per view porn with her in the room....actually, I think the fallout from Dominos might actually be worse.

[4everwarriors]

Do da broads shave their pits in Italy, hey?

[real chili 83]

I LOLed.

If I order Dominos while vacationing in Italy, the birthplace of pizza, I'm pretty sure my Italian fiance would just end it right there. Might as well order pay per view porn with her in the room....actually, I think the fallout from Dominos might actually be worse.

Enjoy your vacation and safe travels.  Tell the Pope I said hi.

[Herman Cain]

I'd like to, but don't know if I will. I got a new job. Love it, but it keeps me a lot busier. That and wedding planning is surprisingly overwhelming. If I find the time, I'll do it again.

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Sounds like you have a lot on the plate. The wedding planning is a big deal, looking forward to the 2018 version lol

[MUEng92]

I started this in mid summer and periodically update both the table and the 'as of' date.   

I wish every thread on here would have its title updated regularly. But more for the hijacked ones so I don't have to waste my time clicking on them when the title no longer reflects what it is about.

[WarriorPride68]

247 hinted SMU could be close to offering Bruno the other week & Larry Brown is watching him right now

[Dawson Rental]

The upside is Wojo can show him a freshman power forward averaging 16/10 and say "this is how we'll use you." If Henry goes top-10, all the better.

Didn't use just make a critique on how badly Wojo was misusing Ellenson this year?  Why would that be a selling point? 

[Dawson Rental]

And sadly yes, I don't have anything better to do right now. In a hotel in Venice at the moment. Fiance is already asleep, TV is all in Italian, wifi is too slow for netflix and I've already responded to all my email for work.

Are you there for carnival?  If so, consider me very envious.

[brewcity77]

Didn't use just make a critique on how badly Wojo was misusing Ellenson this year?  Why would that be a selling point?

Because he is still putting up numbers and will be drafted in the top-10.

[tower912]

Is Xavier Tillman still on MU's radar (2017 PF)?    Saw him Friday night.   Big.   6'9, 250.    Gets the ball in the post/at the elbow and his first look is to hit a teammate with a skip baseball pass.   His skill set has not yet caught up to his size, but he is only a junior.    Not as good around the basket on non-dunks as one would hope.   Either he was having a bad night shooting or his touch isn't there yet.    Moves well, very athletic.   Would take him at MU in a heartbeat. 

[WarriorPride68]

Is Xavier Tillman still on MU's radar (2017 PF)?    Saw him Friday night.   Big.   6'9, 250.    Gets the ball in the post/at the elbow and his first look is to hit a teammate with a skip baseball pass.   His skill set has not yet caught up to his size, but he is only a junior.    Not as good around the basket on non-dunks as one would hope.   Either he was having a bad night shooting or his touch isn't there yet.    Moves well, very athletic.   Would take him at MU in a heartbeat.

Sounds like MSU & Kentucky are his favorites, both have offered. This is just based off 247 & a couple articles i read.

I agree, would take him in a heart beat