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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28350 on: February 24, 2021, 02:36:10 PM »
Yah.  Everything I said still applies.

So why spend one more year playing for free for a mediocre team and lose out on making six figures?

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28351 on: February 24, 2021, 02:41:10 PM »
None of the seniors will be returning.

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28352 on: February 24, 2021, 02:58:31 PM »
no offense to the current players, but they may be pressed to earn more than $65,000 overseas if they are fortunate to sign with a team in a higher tier league.

Those roster spots are limited, and those earning more than $100k are generally guys that just missed out on making a NBA roster.

Not unheard of for a monthly contract for a US player to be less than $3,000 a month for the lower level Euro leagues.

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28353 on: February 24, 2021, 03:14:01 PM »
no offense to the current players, but they may be pressed to earn more than $65,000 overseas if they are fortunate to sign with a team in a higher tier league.

Those roster spots are limited, and those earning more than $100k are generally guys that just missed out on making a NBA roster.

Not unheard of for a monthly contract for a US player to be less than $3,000 a month for the lower level Euro leagues.

That figure is on the low side. Plus euro contracts include housing/utilities, car, phone, meals etc. The initial salary figure may not blow you away, but it's a nice pay day when most living expenses are taken care of.

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28354 on: February 24, 2021, 03:19:44 PM »
I think some people underestimate how much $65,000 a year is for most people
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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28355 on: February 24, 2021, 03:24:34 PM »
I think some people underestimate how much $65,000 a year is for most people

Especially when you're banking the majority of it. It's a very good deal.

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28356 on: February 24, 2021, 03:38:51 PM »
Most recent data I've seen is that the average 4-year college grad makes around $53K after graduation. That means that roughly half of college grads make less than that. $65K right out of college with lots of expenses paid? That's amazing for most.
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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28357 on: February 24, 2021, 03:45:35 PM »
Most recent data I've seen is that the average 4-year college grad makes around $53K after graduation. That means that roughly half of college grads make less than that. $65K right out of college with lots of expenses paid? That's amazing for most.

And I'd guess that if you remove STEM careers the average would drop substantially.

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28358 on: February 24, 2021, 03:47:32 PM »
While I would agree that may not be much to gain returning, its not like Jamal, Theo or Koby are going to make big time bucks playing basketball.  A free graduate degree while playing basketball fulltime without really having to worry about school (I don't think these graduate programs most grad transfers take are very strenuous) has to be pretty attractive to guys that are going to middling overseas pros at best.     

The thing is, none of the guys you mentioned believe they’ll be “middling overseas pros”.  They’ve seen their peers who are a couple years older, guys they played with at school and AAU, go overseas and make six figures playing ball.  You don’t think they want in on that as soon as it makes sense for it to be an option?  You think they’d rather spend another year going to class and grinding at the Al, as opposed to just chilling all day and going to practice for 2-3 hours on non-game days and getting paid pretty well for it? 

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28359 on: February 24, 2021, 04:17:30 PM »
It's been fun watching Theo grow as a player and a young man. He has become a solid Big East 5 - not great but definitely the kind of guy a team can win with - and a good representative of the Marquette community.

But he is not an NBA player, and nothing he would do at Marquette or any other school for a 5th season would make him into an NBA player. I do agree with those who say he'd earn some good $$ playing overseas.

Now, if he wants to play one more year of college hoops while getting a free graduate degree, that's a whole 'nother story. None of us knows what he's thinking.

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28360 on: February 24, 2021, 05:06:15 PM »
I know this is a recruiting thread, but some rumors I've been hearing is that Symir is going to transfer at the end of the season. Would not be shocked if this becomes true

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28361 on: February 24, 2021, 05:08:06 PM »
I know this is a recruiting thread, but some rumors I've been hearing is that Symir is going to transfer at the end of the season. Would not be shocked if this becomes true

I mean he's gotta see that Wojo went after two guards plus see his own play and think "damn maybe I already peaked" shame because he seems like a genuinely nice young man that wants to win here.
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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28362 on: February 24, 2021, 05:20:08 PM »
I know this is a recruiting thread, but some rumors I've been hearing is that Symir is going to transfer at the end of the season. Would not be shocked if this becomes true

his loss after MU beats UNC by 20 tonight

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28363 on: February 24, 2021, 05:21:36 PM »
It's been fun watching Theo grow as a player and a young man. He has become a solid Big East 5 - not great but definitely the kind of guy a team can win with - and a good representative of the Marquette community.

But he is not an NBA player, and nothing he would do at Marquette or any other school for a 5th season would make him into an NBA player. I do agree with those who say he'd earn some good $$ playing overseas.

Now, if he wants to play one more year of college hoops while getting a free graduate degree, that's a whole 'nother story. None of us knows what he's thinking.
There's gotta be a place in the NBA for a 6-9 guy that can shoot 75% from three.
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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28364 on: February 24, 2021, 05:29:53 PM »
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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28365 on: February 24, 2021, 05:56:53 PM »
There's gotta be a place in the NBA for a 6-9 guy that can shoot 75% from three.

I love that, TS!

And on that note ... time for me to go watch Marquette beat UNC!

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28366 on: February 24, 2021, 06:26:14 PM »
I know this is a recruiting thread, but some rumors I've been hearing is that Symir is going to transfer at the end of the season. Would not be shocked if this becomes true

I would not be to upset if he left, watching his first pass tonight was pathetic

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28367 on: February 25, 2021, 06:29:24 AM »

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28368 on: February 25, 2021, 06:50:45 AM »
I would not be to upset if he left, watching his first pass tonight was pathetic

He seemed very tight his first time on the court. Yes, that pass was pathetic. But he played quite well in the second half when DJ desperately needed some rest. Hit a huge 3 - after which I turned to my wife and said, "Damn! We're gone win this game!" - and had a really nice drive that didn't go in but brought over their big man so Theo could slam home the rebound.

Like every other player who got into the game for Marquette, he contributed to a decisive win at the Dean Dome.
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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28369 on: February 25, 2021, 06:56:43 AM »
I think Brandin Podziemski is cutting his list today and hope we make the cut if so.

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28370 on: February 25, 2021, 07:47:32 AM »
He seemed very tight his first time on the court. Yes, that pass was pathetic. But he played quite well in the second half when DJ desperately needed some rest. Hit a huge 3 - after which I turned to my wife and said, "Damn! We're gone win this game!" - and had a really nice drive that didn't go in but brought over their big man so Theo could slam home the rebound.

Like every other player who got into the game for Marquette, he contributed to a decisive win at the Dean Dome.
I said the same thing. If Sy is making that 3, no way we lose.

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28371 on: February 25, 2021, 07:51:21 AM »
Ideal situation would be to get Carton, Lewis, and Garcia back, maybe Jamal and/or Theo come back, and then add one of Podziemski, Burnett, or Tyrese Hunter if Prohm is fired (all 3 would be cool, but so would be hiring Beilein and I just don't see either situation playing out).
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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28372 on: February 25, 2021, 07:55:32 AM »
And I'd guess that if you remove STEM careers the average would drop substantially.

If you include Business/Finance/Marketing/Accounting as STEM (and it probably is), the the average probably would drop into the high $30,000s or very low $40,000s.

The one career in that group I'd strongly advise against is Journalism. The slaughter of jobs and salaries in that field is sad going on horribly depressing.

What's this have to do with staying or going? If a student/athlete went to college with a vision of a degree, having a graduate degree arising from one additional year in college definitely will help. On the other hand, if your degree is in Communications, go to the pros NOW as you're gong to need whatever you can bank!

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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28373 on: February 25, 2021, 07:58:18 AM »
Ideal situation would be to get Carton, Lewis, and Garcia back, maybe Jamal and/or Theo come back, and then add one of Podziemski, Burnett, or Tyrese Hunter if Prohm is fired (all 3 would be cool, but so would be hiring Beilein and I just don't see either situation playing out).

Think the ship has sailed on Burnett
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Re: Recruiting as of 2/15/21
« Reply #28374 on: February 25, 2021, 11:09:50 AM »
Podziemski final 5 doesn’t include Marquette

Illinois
Kentucky
Miami
Wake Forest
Vanderbilt

Interesting list
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