Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[Its DJOver]

I will.  I think Wojo is going to use whatever lineups work given the match ups.  So yeah I think we will see lineups like GE, JC and Markus at times.  Furthermore with the offense that Wojo runs, there really isn't that much difference between a traditional 2 and 3.

I agree with this, but I don't think that makes my original statement wrong.

If you just look at our roster makeup from last year to this year it is easy to see.  We lost almost 1300 minutes of guard play (1143 from AR, 131 from HC).  The only guard we brought in to replace that is JC.  He won't be playing enough to make up AR minutes, much less AR+HC.

We lost 250 minutes of F/C play from Harry.  Ed alone will more than make that up.  Throw in that we also introduce Joey, Ike, and Brendan, and signficantly more minutes will be going to new frontcourt players vs the one new backcourt player.

We have a net loss of one guard and a net gain of three forwards.  The returning player that is likely to lose the most minutes is also a guard (Sacar).  We can still play the matchups, but just by the roster make-up, we will see significantly less three guard line-ups.  The two ideas are not mutually exclusive.

[GGGG]

I agree with this, but I don't think that makes my original statement wrong.

If you just look at our roster makeup from last year to this year it is easy to see.  We lost almost 1300 minutes of guard play (1143 from AR, 131 from HC).  The only guard we brought in to replace that is JC.  He won't be playing enough to make up AR minutes, much less AR+HC.

We lost 250 minutes of F/C play from Harry.  Ed alone will more than make that up.  Throw in that we also introduce Joey, Ike, and Brendan, and signficantly more minutes will be going to new frontcourt players vs the one new backcourt player.

We have a net loss of one guard and a net gain of three forwards.  The returning player that is likely to lose the most minutes is also a guard (Sacar).  We can still play the matchups, but just by the roster make-up, we will see significantly less three guard line-ups.  The two ideas are not mutually exclusive.

Ultimately I think your conclusion is correct, but I think your reasoning is flawed.  We aren't going to have less three guard line ups simply because we have more forwards.  We are going to have less three guard line ups because that will be the best option given the talent on the roster.

And again, this is ultimately not much of an issue considering this style of offense.  GE, Sam, Joey, etc. are all capable of playing the same position in the offense.  Defining GE as a "guard" when he plays in that spot, while the others are "forwards" isn't really how basketball works these days.

[Its DJOver]

Ultimately I think your conclusion is correct, but I think your reasoning is flawed.  We aren't going to have less three guard line ups simply because we have more forwards.  We are going to have less three guard line ups because that will be the best option given the talent on the roster.

And again, this is ultimately not much of an issue considering this style of offense.  GE, Sam, Joey, etc. are all capable of playing the same position in the offense.  Defining GE as a "guard" when he plays in that spot, while the others are "forwards" isn't really how basketball works these days.

Once again I agree, and I would have no problem with GE playing the 3, whether you consider it a third guard or a forward.  The problem I see comes down to size.  I know that GE is very very long, but one of the biggest complaints the last two years has been size.  Wojo fixed that by getting a 6-3 PG and a 6-4 PG.  Having a 6-3 PG is great, but then putting another 6-3 player that weighs less than the PG at the 3, kinda defeats the purpose.  I'd prefer 6-8 Sam, or 6-7 Jamal every time.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Size problem has stemmed from Rowdy and Howard being so short. Someone 6'3-6'5 playing the 3 is pretty common in the Big East. Here are some likely starters at the 3 for other Big East teams:

Butler- 6'2 185 lb Paul Jorgensen
Creighton- 6'5 205 lb Mitch Ballock
DePaul- 6'6 200 lb Eli Cain
Georgetown- 6'6 205 lb Kaleb Johnson
Providence- 6'7 205 lb Alpha Diallo
Seton Hall- 6'4 195 lb Myles Cale
St. John's- 6'5 194 lb LJ Figueroa
Villanova- 6'3 185 lb Joe Cremo
Xavier- 6'6 200 lb Naji Marshall

Other than Diallo and maybe Marshall/Johnson, I think Greg has enough size to guard any of the above effectively. And these are just likely starters, there will be plenty of times when they play even smaller players at the 3.

[Its DJOver]

I'm not trying to hate on Greg.  I'm very high on his potential, but we have 8 players listed at 6-7 or taller. Wouldn't it be nice to be bigger at 4 positions.  I wouldn't propose a jumbo package with both Matt and Theo, but if Jamal is quick enough and athletic enough to man up against a guard, think of the mismatches we could get if we roll out Theo, Joey, Sam, Jamal, and JC.  Joey pulling bigs away from the paint, and Jamal posting up guards.  I'd much rather make opponents have to adjust to us than the other way around.

Also worth noting that Greg would be giving up at least 10 lbs to everyone on that list.  He could still be effective, but just switch out Greg for Sam, and we jump from tied for shortest and by far lightest to both tallest and heaviest.

[GGGG]

Height isn't the only thing.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

I agree with this, but I don't think that makes my original statement wrong.

If you just look at our roster makeup from last year to this year it is easy to see.  We lost almost 1300 minutes of guard play (1143 from AR, 131 from HC).  The only guard we brought in to replace that is JC.  He won't be playing enough to make up AR minutes, much less AR+HC.

We lost 250 minutes of F/C play from Harry.  Ed alone will more than make that up.  Throw in that we also introduce Joey, Ike, and Brendan, and signficantly more minutes will be going to new frontcourt players vs the one new backcourt player.

We have a net loss of one guard and a net gain of three forwards.  The returning player that is likely to lose the most minutes is also a guard (Sacar).  We can still play the matchups, but just by the roster make-up, we will see significantly less three guard line-ups.  The two ideas are not mutually exclusive.

I belive u said less than thirty seconds, completely wrong by hours

[Its DJOver]

I belive u said less than thirty seconds, completely wrong by hours

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I was providing one example where a three guard line-up would be effective.  If your argument is that there is more than one scenario where a three guard line-up could work, then I agree with you.

If you look at our roster, we have 5 scholarship eligible players listed as G or G/F (Sam and Sacar included).  We have 9 scholarship players listed as G/F, F, or C.  I don't think it is a stretch to say that we will only have a few 3 guard line-ups, especially if you do not consider Sam a guard (which I don't).  If your F/C to G ratio is 2:1 (grouping Sam with F and Sacar with G) you should expect your F to get more minutes.

https://gomarquette.com/roster.aspx?roster=167&path=mbball

For the first time in a while, we're a big team.  It is my opinion (quick reminder that an opinion can't be wrong) that we should use that to our advantage as much as possible. A G/G/F/F/C lineup does that more than a G/G/G/F/F lineup.

[Marcus92]

Height isn't the only thing.

Agree 100%. The biggest inspiration behind the dramatic changes in offensive philosophy is the success of the Golden State Warriors -- in particular, the original Death Lineup: Steph Curry (6-3), Klay Thompson (6-7), Andre Iguodala (6-6), Harrison Barnes (6-8) and Draymond Green (6-8).

Before that, an NBA lineup with no player taller than 6-8 would have been unthinkable. But the Warriors used versatility to their advantage. Every player could pass, shoot and guard multiple positions. So they could exploit mismatches on the offensive end, and minimize mismatches on defense.

To put this into context for MU, consider Ed Morrow and Jamal Cain. Both are listed at 6-7. But Ed didn't shoot a single 3-pointer in two seasons at Nebraska, while logging just 8 steals and 11 assists. Jamal, meanwhile, hit almost 50% from long range while adding 22 assists and 28 steals in his first season alone. Ed's the far better rebounder and post player. Jamal's the far more versatile player. Sometimes they might play side by side. Sometimes Wojo might want one over the other. Or neither of them.

The same goes for Theo John, Ike Eke and Joey Hauser -- all listed at 6-9, but with dramatically different skillsets. Like the past two years, I wouldn't be surprised to see the occasional lineup with Sam (6-8/225) as our tallest player. Or with Markus (5-11), Chartouny (6-3), Greg (6-3) and Sacar (6-5) on the court at the same time. Height isn't the only thing.

[MU82]

I wouldn't be surprised to see 3-guard lineups often next season.

Then again, I've seen national writeups on MU that refer to Sam as a guard.

positionsnomatta

[Jay Bee]

MN peeps or those visiting,

Hardwood Elite: The League '18 kicks off on September 9 and runs every Sunday night for 4 weeks. Two games per team each week at 5pm and 6pm; all games at Eden Prairie High School. The league is open to the 2019 through 2022 classes; teams are assembled based on year, position/height, skill, etc.

Tough to evaluate well in this league compared to travel and high school, but will be entertaining and worth a visit if you've got a little time after enjoying a Vikings victory on a crisp fall Sunday evening.

2020 MU targets Dawson Garcia and Dain Dainja are both in the league. 2019 Zeke Nnaji (top 30) and 2021 Kendall Brown (top 25) are also in the league. In addition, two of our Late Night Hoops 15U players will be in the league... looking forward to seeing the rosters.

Any questions, hit me up.

[Herman Cain]

Commentary from Rocket Watts:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RocketWatts/status/1035001090306191360

[MomofMUltiples]

I hope Jamal told him he needs to come here and prove it.

[Herman Cain]

Tre Mann committed to Florida. This could have a ripple effect on our recruitment of Nico. Mann was slated to take an official to UNC. Now  potentially UNC may put an offer out to Nico.
https://www.zagsblog.com/2018/08/28/tre-mann-to-florida/

[brewcity77]

Tre Mann committed to Florida. This could have a ripple effect on our recruitment of Nico. Mannwas slated to take an official to UNC. Now  potentially UNC may put an offer out to Nico.
https://www.zagsblog.com/2018/08/28/tre-mann-to-florida/

Not worried at all. UNC and Kentucky were briefly added to his list, then just as quickly removed. Maybe had they pushed then, but this looks like a 4-horse race.

[We R Final Four]

MN peeps or those visiting,

Hardwood Elite: The League '18 kicks off on September 9 and runs every Sunday night for 4 weeks. Two games per team each week at 5pm and 6pm; all games at Eden Prairie High School. The league is open to the 2019 through 2022 classes; teams are assembled based on year, position/height, skill, etc.

Tough to evaluate well in this league compared to travel and high school, but will be entertaining and worth a visit if you've got a little time after enjoying a Vikings victory on a crisp fall Sunday evening.

2020 MU targets Dawson Garcia and Dain Dainja are both in the league. 2019 Zeke Nnaji (top 30) and 2021 Kendall Brown (top 25) are also in the league. In addition, two of our Late Night Hoops 15U players will be in the league... looking forward to seeing the rosters.

Any questions, hit me up.

[TedBaxter]

I'm pretty sure Dexter Akanno arrived this morning for his official visit.  According to his AAU program, he was on an unofficial visit to Northeastern University in Boston yesterday, so unless he came in last night, he was probably on one of the 2 Boston flights that arrived at Mitchell Field before 8:30 a.m. today.

[DCHoopster]

I'm pretty sure Dexter Akanno arrived this morning for his official visit.  According to his AAU program, he was on an unofficial visit to Northeastern University in Boston yesterday, so unless he came in last night, he was probably on one of the 2 Boston flights that arrived at Mitchell Field before 8:30 a.m. today.

Can not be a nicer day, compare Northeastern gym to the Fiserv Forum, a tad different!  Hope he likes Motorcycle noise this weekend.

[Jockey]

Agree 100%. The biggest inspiration behind the dramatic changes in offensive philosophy is the success of the Golden State Warriors -- in particular, the original Death Lineup: Steph Curry (6-3), Klay Thompson (6-7), Andre Iguodala (6-6), Harrison Barnes (6-8) and Draymond Green (6-8).

I agree with all you said, but will nitpick anyway

Actual heights are: Steph Curry (6-2), Klay Thompson (6-5.75), Andre Iguodala (6-6), Harrison Barnes (6-7) and Draymond Green (6-5.75).

[barfolomew]

I'm pretty sure Dexter Akanno arrived this morning for his official visit.  According to his AAU program, he was on an unofficial visit to Northeastern University in Boston yesterday, so unless he came in last night, he was probably on one of the 2 Boston flights that arrived at Mitchell Field before 8:30 a.m. today.

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[manny31]

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My son was eating lunch at Wild today and said Wojo and some of the team were there with a recruit....Lazy, I know but who is Dexter again?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

My son was eating lunch at Wild today and said Wojo and some of the team were there with a recruit....Lazy, I know but who is Dexter again?

https://www.anonymouseagle.com/2018/8/3/17639312/marquette-golden-eagles-basketball-recruiting-akanno-terry-cottrell-steward-strawther

[TedBaxter]

I'm pretty sure Dexter Akanno arrived this morning for his official visit.  According to his AAU program, he was on an unofficial visit to Northeastern University in Boston yesterday, so unless he came in last night, he was probably on one of the 2 Boston flights that arrived at Mitchell Field before 8:30 a.m. today.

I'm not sure what this means, if anything.  The Blair Academy coach had tweeted that Dexter Akanno would be coming to Marquette on an official visit while BTI founder Robert Icart is in a photo with Wojo and Dexter and tweeted that he was on an unofficial visit to Marquette.

[Herman Cain]

I'm not sure what this means, if anything.  The Blair Academy coach had tweeted that Dexter Akanno would be coming to Marquette on an official visit while BTI founder Robert Icart is in a photo with Wojo and Dexter and tweeted that he was on an unofficial visit to Marquette.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BTIHoops/status/1035736629070188544

Neck
Legs=pogo stick

Sign him up

[bilsu]

I wouldn't be surprised to see 3-guard lineups often next season.

Then again, I've seen national writeups on MU that refer to Sam as a guard.

positionsnomatta

It will be announced as a three guard lineup with either Sam or Cain
being the third guard. The center position will be announced as a forward.
3 guard 2 forward lineup.