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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11600 on: December 06, 2017, 08:51:19 AM »
Let's say that a mid-to-low major basketball program has a coach whose son is going to end up being a 5 star type recruit.  How do high major schools go about recruiting that kid?

Let's just say there's a mid-to-low major school in a Midwestern city that has a "power six" conference team also in its Midwestern city.  Does the head coach of, let's just say a local Jesuit school, "hypothetically," recruit the son of a coach of another D1 program in the same city?
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11601 on: December 06, 2017, 09:01:58 AM »
Let's say that a mid-to-low major basketball program has a coach whose son is going to end up being a 5 star type recruit.  How do high major schools go about recruiting that kid?

Let's just say there's a mid-to-low major school in a Midwestern city that has a "power six" conference team also in its Midwestern city.  Does the head coach of, let's just say a local Jesuit school, "hypothetically," recruit the son of a coach of another D1 program in the same city?

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11602 on: December 06, 2017, 09:07:10 AM »
Let's say that a mid-to-low major basketball program has a coach whose son is going to end up being a 5 star type recruit.  How do high major schools go about recruiting that kid?

Let's just say there's a mid-to-low major school in a Midwestern city that has a "power six" conference team also in its Midwestern city.  Does the head coach of, let's just say a local Jesuit school, "hypothetically," recruit the son of a coach of another D1 program in the same city?
I think if MU reaches out to Baldwin in a respectful way, I imagine they wouldn't have any problem with it. They very well could say thanks, but if he's staying in Milwaukee he'll be playing for his dad, but I don't think they would be upset by MU recruiting their son.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11603 on: December 06, 2017, 09:22:59 AM »
I think it’s worth it to say “listen there is nothing wrong with UWM and you’ll be making it to the pros before long however if you want the exposure you deserve and to represent your city on a national level MU may at least be worth a look.”
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11604 on: December 06, 2017, 09:27:20 AM »
Okay so that is the first time I have seen highlights of Herro and he 100% reminds me of Jon Scheyer in high school, it really is uncanny.

Great player, same height and build, unbelievable shooter, pretty much carries his team and sees double and triple teams all while being an absolute prick on the court that never shuts up. It really is uncanny how much the two are alike.

I'm sure Herro will have a pretty successful college career, have to wait and see if it will be as good as Scheyers, but very similar playing styles.

Herro looks far more athletic and quicker than Scheyer was, to me, and I believe Scheyer was a couple inches taller. Completely agree on the carries his team despite double and triple teams. I still think the 21 pts in 75 seconds he scored against a top team may have been the most impressive thing I've seen in a basketball game.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11605 on: December 06, 2017, 10:22:50 AM »
Let's say that a mid-to-low major basketball program has a coach whose son is going to end up being a 5 star type recruit.  How do high major schools go about recruiting that kid?

Let's just say there's a mid-to-low major school in a Midwestern city that has a "power six" conference team also in its Midwestern city.  Does the head coach of, let's just say a local Jesuit school, "hypothetically," recruit the son of a coach of another D1 program in the same city?

Well, in a couple years Wojo is either going to be fired or coaching at Duke.  So just hire Pat Sr. Win-win-win.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11606 on: December 06, 2017, 10:53:59 AM »
Seems like that Ramey ship has sailed. 3 officals set including Nova, no mention of MU.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11607 on: December 06, 2017, 11:41:41 AM »
I think if MU reaches out to Baldwin in a respectful way, I imagine they wouldn't have any problem with it. They very well could say thanks, but if he's staying in Milwaukee he'll be playing for his dad, but I don't think they would be upset by MU recruiting their son.

I am sure Wojo talked to his father already about that.  But really his kid should go to UWM to make sure his father has a job for four more years.  Help the Fam!

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11608 on: December 06, 2017, 12:02:00 PM »
I am sure Wojo talked to his father already about that.  But really his kid should go to UWM to make sure his father has a job for four more years.  Help the Fam!


If he is that good, and UWM is winning because of it, they won't be firing his dad.

If he isn't as good, and UWM isn't winning, there is no reason to worry about the kid leaving if his dad is fired anyway.

And I really doubt he comes to Marquette given the politics involved.  UWM boosters wouldn't exactly be thrilled that the coaches kid goes to the bigger school across town.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11609 on: December 06, 2017, 12:29:34 PM »
Wait...UWM has boosters?

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11610 on: December 06, 2017, 12:45:48 PM »
wades


I sure hope Wojo is chasing little Baldwin.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11611 on: December 06, 2017, 12:51:49 PM »
wades


I sure hope Wojo is chasing little Baldwin.

I agree.  I hear he is the real deal.
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11612 on: December 06, 2017, 01:06:21 PM »
I agree.  I hear he is the real deal.
Saw him play he's a pure shooter

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11613 on: December 06, 2017, 01:38:35 PM »
Saw him play he's a pure shooter

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11614 on: December 06, 2017, 02:08:10 PM »
Okay...here's a quick rundown of some grad transfer candidates. Some I've already mentioned.

1) Ahmaad Rorie, Montana: Originally an Oregon recruit who played a ton as a freshman but saw his minutes dry up in the last third of the season. Since coming to Montana, he's been great. This season, he's averaging 18.6 ppg/3.2 rpg/4.4 apg. Only shooting 28.1% from three, but connected on 38.4% last year so he can shoot the long ball. He was one of the keys to Montana's road upset of Pitt and had them within 3 of Penn State with 4:11 to play but the Nittany Lions pulled away late. He's 6'1", 185 and is one of those guys that wants to take the big shot. He has a high-major pedigree and so far is the best candidate I've seen.

2) Deshon Taylor, Fresno State: Maybe more of a combo guard, but he has good turnover numbers and is averaging 16.3 ppg/4.0 apg this year. Only shooting 33.3% from three this year but was at 40.5% a year ago so he can shoot from range. His history shows he can hit the three, drive and score inside while drawing fouls (and making his FTs), and defend without fouling. Decent size at 6'1" and 180. Hasn't played at a high-major yet, but has a good all around game.

3) Tayler Persons, Ball State: This kid is built like a linebacker. He's 6'3", 220 and last year shot 41.2% from three while putting up great numbers. He's off to a decent start this year, averaging 13.3 ppg/3.5 rpg/4.3 apg. Persons can score at all three levels while doing a good job of creating for others without turning it over a ton.

4) Isaiah Wright, San Diego: Originally a three-star recruit at Utah, Wright failed to break into the regular rotation. This year he's been destroying small-time competition to the tune of 13.8 ppg/5.3 rpg/5.3 apg. For the moment, he's also shooting 70% from three but on only 10 attempts. He has good size at 6'2", 180 and might be worth a look, especially as he was good enough to get looks from high-majors out of high school.

5) Devin Watson, San Diego State: Watson averaged a monstrous 20.3 ppg/4.9 apg at San Francisco before transferring. He's been productive at SDSU, though his 11.3 ppg/5.5 apg isn't quite as beastly. What I like about him is he doesn't turn it over much at all for a high usage guy and has cut his shot totals from 15.3 as a Don to 9.8 as an Aztec, showing he's willing to defer to established starters. Decent size at 6'1", 172.

6) Robert Cartwright, Stanford: Doesn't fill the stat sheet, but does provide for others without turning it over. Not a great shooter (42.0/41.2 eFG% the past two years) but also isn't a high-usage guy. He was originally a Johnny Dawkins recruit so that might provide a connection to Wojo. Good size at 6'2", 180. If we're just looking for a stable option, he would fit the bill.

7) Shawn Roundtree, Central Michigan: I'm hesitant to look too favorably on guys that couldn't break in at a mid-major like Missouri State, but Roundtree might be the exception. He's off to a great start, averaging 13.3 ppg/3.7 apg but most impressively scorched Michigan for a 21/4/3 line. The Chips were within 3 with 7:20 to play in Ann Arbor. Average size at 6'0", 185.

8) Isaac Fleming, East Carolina: The Maryland native was part of the Hawaii NCAA team in 2016, but transferred before they went dancing. Fleming started conference play on fire, averaging 17.0 ppg/3.4 apg before an ankle injury caused him to miss four games. When he returned, he couldn't rediscover that form, scored only 7 points in the next 4 games, & transferred in February. He mostly played off the ball at Hawaii but ECU is using him at the point. Early returns are mixed, he's averaging 8.8 ppg/6.5 apg but with only an 88.9 ORtg and 8.3% 3PFG%. He did shoot 30.8% from three as a sophomore at Hawaii, and has a great frame at 6'3", 215.

9) Paul Jackson, Eastern Michigan: As a sophomore at Eastern Kentucky, he had a 109.4 ORtg, 30.6% Assist Rate (#79 nationally), and shot 42.9% from three. This year at Eastern Michigan, he's averaging 15.3 ppg/5.5 apg and has scorched nets on the drive with a 62.5% 2PFG%. However, that's against some very weak competition. He'll have shots at Indiana, South Florida, and Wichita State in the coming weeks, and EMU plays in a decent Sun Belt league. If he can maintain those stats, the 6'2", 175 pounder might be worth a look.

Another guy to add to this list would be Jon Elmore.  He is a 4th year junior at Marshall.  Currently averaging 24.6 PPG with 7.7 assists per game.  Has some size at 6-3. Not sure if he is a "true PG" or if he is in a position to graduate this summer, but he would fit the bill as a potential grad transfer.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3155937/jon-elmore
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11615 on: December 06, 2017, 02:10:37 PM »
Is there a “list”?
In another thread I’ve missed?

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11616 on: December 06, 2017, 02:11:37 PM »
Is there a “list”?
In another thread I’ve missed?

Ahh I meant to quote Brew's grad transfer list.  Fixed my post. 
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11617 on: December 06, 2017, 02:13:24 PM »
There we go—thx. Trying to remember which thread is which becomes an exercise for me sometimes.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11618 on: December 06, 2017, 02:16:04 PM »
Another guy to add to this list would be Jon Elmore.  He is a 4th year junior at Marshall.  Currently averaging 24.6 PPG with 7.7 assists per game.  Has some size at 6-3. Not sure if he is a "true PG" or if he is in a position to graduate this summer, but he would fit the bill as a potential grad transfer.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3155937/jon-elmore

Shooting 26% from 3 (but taking 6 a game) and averaging 4.6 turnovers. Scoop would hate him.

He is a career 34.8% three point shooter so he could just be off to a poor start this season. I certainly wouldn't mind if we kicked the tires on him during the offseason.
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11619 on: December 06, 2017, 02:39:46 PM »
Shooting 26% from 3 (but taking 6 a game) and averaging 4.6 turnovers. Scoop would hate him.

He is a career 34.8% three point shooter so he could just be off to a poor start this season. I certainly wouldn't mind if we kicked the tires on him during the offseason.

Yeah..I suspect he plays a good deal of heroball at Marshall.  Would need to tone that back and play within the offense, but looks like a decent option with size.  I will try to catch a Marshall game sometime this year and see if he runs the point for them.
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11620 on: December 06, 2017, 02:55:25 PM »
Let's say that a mid-to-low major basketball program has a coach whose son is going to end up being a 5 star type recruit.  How do high major schools go about recruiting that kid?

Let's just say there's a mid-to-low major school in a Midwestern city that has a "power six" conference team also in its Midwestern city.  Does the head coach of, let's just say a local Jesuit school, "hypothetically," recruit the son of a coach of another D1 program in the same city?

"Pat, we'd like to wine and dine your kid all the way up to his matriculation at Northwestern."
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11621 on: December 06, 2017, 02:56:44 PM »
Is there a “list”?
In another thread I’ve missed?

No its this thread you missed. 
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11622 on: December 06, 2017, 03:27:22 PM »
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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11623 on: December 06, 2017, 06:40:47 PM »
Lebron is on the Zaire train.
https://www.bet.com/news/sports/2017/12/05/lebron-james-and-dwyane-wade.html

Kid already has a walking boot. Shut this one down, they practically already signed a LOI for Marquette.

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Re: Recruiting as of 11/15/17
« Reply #11624 on: December 08, 2017, 06:33:08 AM »
Marquette will be at Hargrave (VA) next week. Reached out today to 2018 Connor Crabtree about watching him workout.

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