Ray Rice let go by Ravens

[4everwarriors]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the current occupant of the WH was mentioned as a possible commissioner.

Just because Obama has been mostly an incompetent and/or a liar, it doesn't preclude Condi from having been the same.

It's not a mutually exclusive club!

Maybe PGA commish, hey?

[jesmu84]

So the line that Goodell trotted out there that they couldn't get it from the casino was deemed bull chit too.



Paul Loriquet, the Director of Communications for the New Jersey Attorney General, tells TMZ bluntly, "No, it's not illegal."

To be clear ... our question was very specific: "Is it illegal for the casino to show or provide this material to a private entity in an ongoing investigation." His answer, "No, it's not illegal."

Wow. There goes that excuse.

[brandx]

Wow. There goes that excuse.

Except it wasn't an excuse. It was a lie.

[Dish]

Except it wasn't an excuse. It was a lie.

I don't know, I read in this thread it was illegal.

[jesmu84]

I don't know, I read in this thread it was illegal.

That's what I was referring to.

Goodell has been running with the Cam Newton defense since this thing started: plausible deniability. But the "plausible" portion is running out.

[Benny B]

If you have ownership of something that is being used as evidence in a criminal proceeding, your rights of ownership are not extinguished.  You still own whatever it is that's being used in court.

Now, states and counties may have their own statutes/ordinances regarding what can be done during a criminal proceeding, but I would think that as long as the rights of ownership are unencumbered, you have the ability to use your property in any manner you deem unless a court issues an order otherwise.  If that means making copies of a tape and distributing them, so long as you're not impeding justice, I don't think that would be against the law in most jurisdictions.  If you sent a bunch of copies to the media knowing that they would run it non-stop with editorial during the trial, sure, that might be considered impeding justice.  But sending a copy to the suspect's employer (who is bound by the CBA to keep it out of the hands of the public), that's probably not against the law.

[nyg]

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/adrian-peterson-indicted-reckless-negligent-injury-to-a-child-091214

Bad week for the NFL.   

[brandx]

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/adrian-peterson-indicted-reckless-negligent-injury-to-a-child-091214

Bad week for the NFL.   

Roger says "no problem as long as there is no video.We don't know how to get it so as long as you don't walk into my office with a Notary Public and the tape, it's all good".

[muwarrior69]

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/adrian-peterson-indicted-reckless-negligent-injury-to-a-child-091214

Bad week for the NFL.   

If my grandfather lived today he would be in prison.

[rocket surgeon]

i'm not sticking up for either goodell or rice here, but it seems as though there is more vitriol toward goodell than the guy who beat the sheet out of his wife   many of the fans in baltimore didn't seem to care as much as shown by the number of #27 jerseys etc. being worn. 

[jesmu84]

The Greg Hardy 911 call... wow.

[brandx]

i'm not sticking up for either goodell or rice here, but it seems as though there is more vitriol toward goodell than the guy who beat the sheet out of his wife   many of the fans in baltimore didn't seem to care as much as shown by the number of #27 jerseys etc. being worn. 

I think you are probably right.

Having their team win a game is more important to some people than a woman or kid that they don't know getting beaten.

[rocket surgeon]

betcha the only pkace in the world ya didn't see the video of sugar ray decking his wife was in m & t stadium last night   down goes janay down goes janay down goes janay...(stolen from the late h.c. of course)

[4everwarriors]

Can we just make a blanket statement and proclaim all football playas as "animals?"

[rocket surgeon]

Can we just make a blanket statement and proclaim all football playas as "animals?"

umm, no, because that would be a false statement, I have a toothache?

[forgetful]

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/adrian-peterson-indicted-reckless-negligent-injury-to-a-child-091214

Bad week for the NFL.   

Peterson should be in jail.  At the very least taking a long unpaid vacation from the NFL.

I'm ok with spanking a kid or providing discipline, but causing lacerations and scars when an NFL player beats his own kid with a stick.  Unacceptable.

[jesmu84]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11747355/roger-goodell-being-forced-testify-ray-rice-appeal-hearing

Could be an interesting testimony

[reinko]

I'm still waiting on this super secret evidence that will completely exonerate Goodell,  the NFL,  and the Ravens.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'm still waiting on this super secret evidence that will completely exonerate Goodell,  the NFL,  and the Ravens.

Let it play out....didn't you learn your lesson in a tiny St. Louis town?      Let it play out. 

[warriorchick]

If my grandfather lived today he would be in prison.

Did anyone happen to see  "blackish" last night (my favorite new show, BTW).  The entire episode was about this issue.

[Benny B]

Let it play out....didn't you learn your lesson in a tiny St. Louis town?      Let it play out. 

You should take some lessons from tinier Tallahassee town.

[ChicosBailBonds]

You should take some lessons from tinier Tallahassee town.

Not sure I understand....that one is being played out also.

[Benny B]

Not sure I understand....that one is being played out also.

Rice's claim is basically that he's being dragged through the mud by Goodell.  Just like the victim at FSU is being dragged through the mud by Winston's entourage.

Except here, Rice isn't the victim... he's the one who dragged himself through the mud to get to this point.  But like FSU, there's the distinct odor of smoke being used to misdirect and cover up the truth by, dare I say, just about everyone.

"Let's see how it plays out" is something you should say when accusations and indictments are made.  At some point, however, there's enough information out there for a reasonable person to distinguish between who is simply spinning the facts vs. who is outright lying.

[SoCalEagle]

Did anyone happen to see  "blackish" last night (my favorite new show, BTW).  The entire episode was about this issue.

That episode was actually recorded prior to the AP incident(s). It was delayed a few weeks in order to let things cool down. Interesting episode.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Rice's claim is basically that he's being dragged through the mud by Goodell.  Just like the victim at FSU is being dragged through the mud by Winston's entourage.

Except here, Rice isn't the victim... he's the one who dragged himself through the mud to get to this point.  But like FSU, there's the distinct odor of smoke being used to misdirect and cover up the truth by, dare I say, just about everyone.

"Let's see how it plays out" is something you should say when accusations and indictments are made.  At some point, however, there's enough information out there for a reasonable person to distinguish between who is simply spinning the facts vs. who is outright lying.

You had me until the last sentence, because all too often there isn't enough information out there for a reasonable person to distinguish.  That's the problem.  Let's use that little town near St. Louis as an example.  Did you know there were 6 African American witnesses that back up officer Wilson's story? I doubt it, because the media never reported it.  Instead, the media reported TWO PEOPLE's views, one of which is a convicted felon, and their versions.  Were these other witnesses known to be out and ignored?  Wouldn't that information been somewhat useful as the story was being told, but we don't find out about them until this week.  Really?   I say let it play out because we don't know what is or isn't known, instead we have to go through an agenda driven media that decides what you get to read, see, and hear.  In some cases, they'll even edit audio and put two random sentences together and pretend like the person said it in one fell swoop....with such trusted entities delivering in the information, I'd call them liars (or enablers at the least) before anyone else because too much of the key information isn't put out there.