Ray Rice let go by Ravens

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Does DirecTV do a costume contest?

I'd like to see Chicos in full blackface, Ray Rice jersey and carrying a beat up mannequin into work.

[tower912]

Sort of like cargo shorts.

Blasphemy.   It is all fun and games until you start dissing cargo shorts. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

Does DirecTV do a costume contest?

I'd like to see Chicos in full blackface, Ray Rice jersey and carrying a beat up mannequin into work.

I don't know, plus I don't work for them any longer as I have a new gig.

I'd bet if I walked around with a Schmitt's Gay poster, that would be frowned upon by some, but you never know.  That company sells porn, lots of people over the years outraged at that.  They sell NFL, people outraged about that.  They have the LOGO network, people outraged about that.  Etc, etc. 

Based on the poll I linked, it looks like most people that responded (a plurality) think that for Halloween, pretty much anything goes, which is also why I said Halloween.  If a white guy wants to dress up as Michael Jackson and use blackface, knock yourself out.  If some guy wants to dress up as a woman, or vice versa....knock yourself out.  If an African American wants to put on whiteface and act like a white guy, knock yourself out.  Clockwork Orange, Miley Cyrus, Captain Kirk, Clarence Thomas, Mork, pregnant Britany Spears....I don't particularly give a rip.

Others are outraged....goes with the world today.  It's Halloween, sorry...I don't get excited about Halloween and what people are wearing.  I used to, but not any more.  Just laugh at the world, you'll live longer.

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I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone what laughs at the world more than me.

However, I do have an issue with these stances you take because I don't think you have a hair on your ass to walk into a corporate environment, such as DirecTV, with that costume on. If you really felt it was acceptable you would.

Congrats on a new gig though. It has to be nice to avoid all the questions on here now.

[Aughnanure]

I don't know, plus I don't work for them any longer as I have a new gig.

I'd bet if I walked around with a Schmitt's Gay poster, that would be frowned upon by some, but you never know.  That company sells porn, lots of people over the years outraged at that.  They sell NFL, people outraged about that.  They have the LOGO network, people outraged about that.  Etc, etc.  

Based on the poll I linked, it looks like most people that responded (a plurality) think that for Halloween, pretty much anything goes, which is also why I said Halloween.  If a white guy wants to dress up as Michael Jackson and use blackface, knock yourself out.  If some guy wants to dress up as a woman, or vice versa....knock yourself out.  If an African American wants to put on whiteface and act like a white guy, knock yourself out.  Clockwork Orange, Miley Cyrus, Captain Kirk, Clarence Thomas, Mork, pregnant Britany Spears....I don't particularly give a rip.

Others are outraged....goes with the world today.  It's Halloween, sorry...I don't get excited about Halloween and what people are wearing.

The vast majority of people are white! What is wrong with you? Racist caractures are okay if a majority has no problem with it? You are either a troll or completely clueless about race history in the US.

There is a difference between something being in poor taste and being blatantly racist.

[Benny B]

I don't know, plus I don't work for them any longer as I have a new gig.

I hate to say I told you so, but I told you not to wear your Ray Rice costume.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone what laughs at the world more than me.

However, I do have an issue with these stances you take because I don't think you have a hair on your ass to walk into a corporate environment, such as DirecTV, with that costume on. If you really felt it was acceptable you would.

Congrats on a new gig though. It has to be nice to avoid all the questions on here now.

The corporate world is the corporate world...I wouldn't walk into IBM, Ebay, Mattel or anywhere else wearing a Schmitt's Gay shirt either, or for that matter as Conan the Barbarian.  You're confusing, for some reason, what someone believes is fine to do in the privacy of their home or community (Halloween) vs at work.  You can get drunk all day long at home, but don't bring it to work.  You can smoke pot all day at home, but don't bring it to work.  You can sit around naked with all of your buddies in private, but don't bring it to work.  I don't see your parallels at all suggesting that what someone finds acceptable in private has anything to do with corporate America.  Also, to be fair, I said from the start I laugh at what people get outraged over.  Doesn't mean I condone it, I just marvel at what people get hot and bothered about.

As for the new gig, it's complicated...I'm still very much attached to them but there are distinct entities which make things different.

[ChicosBailBonds]

The vast majority of people are white! What is wrong with you? Racist caractures are okay if a majority has no problem with it? You are either a troll or completely clueless about race history in the US.

There is a difference between something being in poor taste and being blatantly racist.

Sorry Augh, but someone putting on blackface (thanks for the spelling lesson) and wearing a Michael Jackson costume for Halloween I don't feel is blatantly racist.  You do.  Fine.  To each their own.  For Halloween, I don't see it as a big deal, people get dressed up. 

[SoCalwarrior]

Sorry Augh, but someone putting on blackface (thanks for the spelling lesson) and wearing a Michael Jackson costume for Halloween I don't feel is blatantly racist.  You do.  Fine.  To each their own.  For Halloween, I don't see it as a big deal, people get dressed up. 

You have officially jumped the shark, Chicos. Blackface, no matter the costume, is racist. Consult with HR at your company for an education.

[brandx]

You have officially jumped the shark, Chicos. Blackface, no matter the costume, is racist. Consult with HR at your company for an education.

Never thought I would agree with Chicos on anything ever, but....

As someone who thinks racism is still rampant (including the name Redskins), Halloween is the one time where it may be OK to do this. For that one day, I think the less taste, the better.

I mean, Freddy Krueger - a mass murderer - isn't offensive, but blackface is?

[ChicosBailBonds]

You have officially jumped the shark, Chicos. Blackface, no matter the costume, is racist. Consult with HR at your company for an education.

Again, you're talking about a corporate world.  What does HR have to do with Halloween?  Nothing, absolutely nothing.  For some reason you and PTM keep merging HR into this, I don't know why.  

I'm talking about Halloween.  What you're saying is if someone wanted to dress up as Bob Marley for Halloween, that's racist....not because they love Bob Marley or his music.  It's part of the costume, it isn't a remake of some minstrel show from the 1920's.  Not everything is racist.  Now, will someone somewhere take it that way?  Oh, you bet your bottom dollar, but that's the world we live today.  I'm pretty sure if I said "You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking" that HR wouldn't be happy either, yet a whole bunch of people said that wasn't racist.  I guess they didn't jump the shark.

When writing scripts, is it racist for the screenwriter to portray a character with certain stereotypical traits?  Or does that help tell the story, in essence a costume?  I'm asking.

Context matters.  Intentions matter....hell, even Brandx will read this article because it's from HuffPost.  LOL.  This guy gets it....perfectly  (shh, he must be an Uncle Tom)

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/ike-awgu/blackface-halloween-racism_b_4177000.html

[brandx]

Again, you're talking about a corporate world.  What does HR have to do with Halloween?  Nothing, absolutely nothing.  For some reason you and PTM keep merging HR into this, I don't know why.  

I'm talking about Halloween.  What you're saying is if someone wanted to dress up as Bob Marley for Halloween, that's racist....not because they love Bob Marley or his music.  It's part of the costume, it isn't a remake of some minstrel show from the 1920's.  Not everything is racist.  Now, will someone somewhere take it that way?  Oh, you bet your bottom dollar, but that's the world we live today.  I'm pretty sure if I said "You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking" that HR wouldn't be happy either, yet a whole bunch of people said that wasn't racist.  I guess they didn't jump the shark.

When writing scripts, is it racist for the screenwriter to portray a character with certain stereotypical traits?  Or does that help tell the story, in essence a costume?  I'm asking.

Context matters.  Intentions matter....hell, even Brandx will read this article because it's from HuffPost.  LOL.  This guy gets it....perfectly  (shh, he must be an Uncle Tom)

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/ike-awgu/blackface-halloween-racism_b_4177000.html

I apologize to all for agreeing with something this guy said. He is still a douchebag!

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Does dressing up in blackface on Halloween alone make you racist?  Probably not.  But if you do, you are probably a racist bigoted jaghole the 364 other days of the year.

[Benny B]

Does dressing up in blackface on Halloween alone make you racist?  Probably not.  But if you do, you are probably a racist bigoted jaghole the 364 other days of the year.

And that, kids, is what we call a "correlation."

This thread's W is awarded to Renko.

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This just disappoints me overall in society.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Does dressing up in blackface on Halloween alone make you racist?  Probably not.  But if you do, you are probably a racist bigoted jaghole the 364 other days of the year.

That's what we call an enormous leap of ridiculous proportions.  So that I get this straight, Ted Danson is a racist bigoted jaghole the other 364 days of the year...the same Ted Danson that is so bigoted and racist that that he was going out with....drum roll....an African American.

LOL.   

[ChicosBailBonds]

This just disappoints me overall in society.

Lots of things in society disappoint me....things like making up testimony to pin things on people.  That disappoints me greatly.

Reading about this poor SOB today, that disappoints me tremendously.  http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/detroit/detroit-man-fights-30k-child-support-bill-for-kid-that-is-not-his

[Pakuni]

Never thought I would agree with Chicos on anything ever, but....

As someone who thinks racism is still rampant (including the name Redskins), Halloween is the one time where it may be OK to do this. For that one day, I think the less taste, the better.

I mean, Freddy Krueger - a mass murderer - isn't offensive, but blackface is?

You know Freddy Krueger is a fictional character who didn't actually murder anyone, right?

[MUsoxfan]

You know Freddy Krueger is a fictional character who didn't actually murder anyone, right?

Last year I was John Wayne Gacy Clown at a party in Chicago. One girl left the party as she claimed to have known a victim. It was then I knew that I won Halloween

[Aughnanure]

Lots of things in society disappoint me....things like making up testimony to pin things on people.  That disappoints me greatly.

Reading about this poor SOB today, that disappoints me tremendously.  http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/detroit/detroit-man-fights-30k-child-support-bill-for-kid-that-is-not-his

Oh my god, you're an MRA.

[Aughnanure]

I'm talking about Halloween.  What you're saying is if someone wanted to dress up as Bob Marley for Halloween, that's racist....not because they love Bob Marley or his music.  It's part of the costume, it isn't a remake of some minstrel show from the 1920's.  Not everything is racist.  Now, will someone somewhere take it that way?  Oh, you bet your bottom dollar, but that's the world we live today.  I'm pretty sure if I said "You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking" that HR wouldn't be happy either, yet a whole bunch of people said that wasn't racist.  I guess they didn't jump the shark.

Christ you're an idiot. It doesn't matter how it makes YOU feel. It IS racism in one of it's most obvious forms.

[Lennys Tap]

Last year I was John Wayne Gacy Clown at a party in Chicago. One girl left the party as she claimed to have known a victim. It was then I knew that I won Halloween

The quote that Tragedy + Time = Comedy was first credited to Steve Allen in the 1950s. It became a mantra to many comics. I guess a lot of people take offense at that definition today.

[Lennys Tap]

Oh my god, you're an MRA.

What's an MRA?

[Pakuni]

That's what we call an enormous leap of ridiculous proportions.  So that I get this straight, Ted Danson is a racist bigoted jaghole the other 364 days of the year...the same Ted Danson that is so bigoted and racist that that he was going out with....drum roll....an African American.

LOL.  

Doing something blatantly offensive such as wearing blackface doesn't necessarily make one a racist bigoted jaghole. More likely, it makes you misinformed and tone deaf.

Incessantly defending such actions on the other hand ....

Also, TIL that a person dating an African American couldn't possibly do anything offensive. I'll add this to the "but I have black/Hispanic/gay friends" defense for bigotry.

[MU82]

I apologize to all for agreeing with something this guy said. He is still a douchebag!

But he's our douchebag!