2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread

[jesmu84]

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[jesmu84]

Run? What run? Who needs to run?

PS. This is how the Packers should be playing.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Anybody who still questioned taking Cutler over McCown at the beginning of the season needs to turn in their football privileges.

[jesmu84]

Everyone in the Bears secondary is injured. Trestman just called me to suit up.

Oh god... Bears depleted secondary vs. Rodgers.

[Dish]

Ugly game, take the win and go home.

Jets...ugh...tough to watch that offensive play calling. Not much read option as I thought they should.

No idea who wins Sunday on the lakefront. Probably whoever wins turnover and field position battle. Big game for both teams. A Bears win would give them 2.5 up on the Pack, before a tough two game NFC South road trip.

[brandx]

Everyone in the Bears secondary is injured. Trestman just called me to suit up.

Oh god... Bears depleted secondary vs. Rodgers.

Detroit's secondary was totally depleted. McCarthy used the old Buffalo/OJ Simpson ploy (using your best player as a decoy) and I'm guessing he will do it again.

[Dish]

I disagree that the Bears secondary is depleted.

They have injuries, but their two best players back there are fine (Fuller and Jennings). Vereen is ok, Mundy/Conte are ok, but street FA's aren't that big of a step down from those guys. It's not like they lost three all pro's.

[CreightonWarrior]

While I agree with this, I think there are a lot of flaws in the play calling.  Screens have seemingly disappeared from McCarthy's playbook.  Rodgers throwing a quick bubble pass out of a running formation doesn't count.

So how long is McCarthy going to last if he and Rodgers are going to start going head to head in press conferences?

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-mike-mccarthy-aaron-rodgers-have-offensive-differences-b99356258z1-276412501.html

If Kobe can get a coach fired it couldn't be too hard to get McCarthy fired...might be a good thing they didn't get him a contract extension this summer like TT.

[GGGG]

McCarthy is not getting fired anytime soon, and Rodgers isn't Kobe.

This is a franchise with a top-down philosophy that everyone in the organization is pretty much on board with.  Thompson isn't going to fire his guy after his record of success.  Hell, if they didn't fire Capers after last year, why would you expect massive changes in the future?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I have been pleasantly surprised with Mundy this year. Been a solid safety so far this year. A couple missed tackles but hes been pretty good in coverage this year. Vereen showed potential on that last play but he is still a rookie. I am shocked by the play of Kyle Fuller.

[NavinRJohnson]

The NFC is one giant suckfest. If geno smith didn't stink out loud, Jets would have beaten both the packers and the bears.

[CTWarrior]

The NFC is one giant suckfest. If geno smith didn't stink out loud, Jets would have beaten both the packers and the bears.

As a Jets fan I agree.  But Geno is still better than Mark Sanchez.

[robmufan]

As a Jets fan I agree.  But Geno is still better than Mark Sanchez.

They should really use Mike Vick more!

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

The NFC is one giant suckfest. If geno smith didn't stink out loud, Jets would have beaten both the packers and the bears.

Meh. I hate the Packers but if McCarthy ever gets his head out of his ass theyll be fine. Bears will be fine to so long as injuries dont keep piling up.

[RJax55]

The NFC is one giant suckfest. If geno smith didn't stink out loud, Jets would have beaten both the packers and the bears.

Very true, but its not like the AFC is setting the world on fire. And, the Eagles defense may suck, but that offense is legit.

[Dish]

Interesting DVOA data this afternoon on projected W/L and playoff projections.

DVOA has the Bears winning the North with 10.0 mean wins, Lions second with 8.6, Pack third at 8.1.

Small data size still.

[jesmu84]

Interesting DVOA data this afternoon on projected W/L and playoff projections.

DVOA has the Bears winning the North with 10.0 mean wins, Lions second with 8.6, Pack third at 8.1.

Small data size still.

How close, historically, have DVOA predictions been to reality?

[Dish]

How close, historically, have DVOA predictions been to reality?

No way to measure, it changes every week (actually every play).

All depends how you value DVOA data. I love following it personally, but don't view it as complete gospel.

[Blackhat]

Really surprised people are after McCarthy.

Seems obvious to me that the continued problems stem from poor drafting and a poor S&C program.  

Amazing to me that people want to get rid of the guy in charge of the one constant area we excel in: offense.  

I still hold that Thompson is extremely over valued as a GM however I have no faith in Mark Murphy to make a good hire...so I don't know what I want to happen at this point.   Hiring a new S&C guy, maybe Jim Harbaugh's guy, would be beneficial.

It's no coincidence that guys like Pete Carrol, Jim Harbaugh and Bill O'Brien bring their own S&C guys in, if you know what I mean.

[jesmu84]

Simmons suspended by ESPN for calling Goodell a liar. Wow.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Simmons suspended by ESPN for calling Goodell a liar. Wow.

The ironic part? He got suspended for the equivalent of 3 NFL games. Longer than Rice's punnishment. ESPN and the NFL are a joke. Hopefully this is the push FS1 needs.

[brandx]

Simmons suspended by ESPN for calling Goodell a liar. Wow.

We all know Goodell lied. My guess this occurred because of pressure from the NFL and we all know money talks. Wonder if there were any threats about contract renewal.

[GGGG]

Simmons is an interesting case.  Can really be a good writer.  Sometimes not so much.  Not afraid to speak his mind though.  I wonder if he is tiring of ESPN because he clearly doesn't suffer fools.

[jesmu84]

It'll be interesting to see the fall-out. He did say he would "go public" if anyone came after him for his statements.

Also, ESPN pulled the podcast where he made his statements.

[mu03eng]

The ironic part? He got suspended for the equivalent of 3 NFL games. Longer than Rice's punnishment. ESPN and the NFL are a joke. Hopefully this is the push FS1 needs.

Also Simmons was suspended for 3 weeks for calling Goodell a liar, while Stephen A Smith intimated at best, flat out stated at worst that Janay Rice provoked her own beating.....and was suspended for one week.

ESPN is going to flush themselves down the same toilet that the NFL is.