So....What are we ranked on Monday - 10/1/23?

[Newsdreams]

26

[GoldenEagles03]

9 with a win on Saturday.

[Coleman]

I am less optimistic. 11 with a win on Saturday.

[BrewCity83]

10/10

Looking for a little help from the other teams above us.

[tower912]

Ranking about the same.  NET drops unless it is a 20 point win.

[bilsu]

I also have Baylor ahead of Marquette in my most recent S-Curve/bracket. As decisive as Marquette's win in Milwaukee was, it was one data point in a season that is now 85 days old. The biggest difference for me is the location of their best wins. Marquette's three best wins (UConn, Baylor, Creighton) all came at home. Baylor has comparable wins (UCLA, Kansas, Gonzaga) but two of those were on neutral courts. Baylor also doesn't have any losses to unranked teams, or teams outside Quadrant 1. Marquette has two such losses. Baylor has also done that against a tougher strength of schedule.

They're pretty close, but if I had an AP vote, I'd put Baylor over Marquette and at this point they have the better resume of the two.

Numbers are numbers, but there also is the eye test. I watched the second half of the Texas/Baylor game, and I came away believing MU would beat Baylor in a rematch.

[CountryRoads]

This assumes a win tomorrow against butler:

13. Iowa State (passing regardless of their game Saturday)

12. Gonzaga (passing if they lose to St Mary’s Saturday)

11. Baylor (imo, passing regardless of their game Saturday)

I’d say 12 or 11. Hoping we win so we can talk more about it Monday.

[MU82]

We are past "hoping we win" against a team like Butler.

The correct clause is, "After we win ... "

[withoutbias]

Well then, cancel the game and give us our ranking already!

[CountryRoads]

We are past "hoping we win" against a team like Butler.

The correct clause is, "After we win ... "

👍

[BrewCity83]

I think he correctly used the phrase "assuming a win tomorrow".

[MU82]

I think he correctly used the phrase "assuming a win tomorrow".

Yes, I see now that he actually used both that and hoping.

[brewcity77]

Ranking about the same.  NET drops unless it is a 20 point win.

It will be.

[tower912]

Yes.

[fjm]

It will be.

Should I bet on it?

[Shooter McGavin]

Ranking about the same.  NET drops unless it is a 20 point win.

It will be

Ha!  Didn’t scroll down and see Brew’s response.

[robmufan]

Should I bet on it?

Coming in from Indianapolis, and morning radio likes to point out that Butlers best loss in conference is 15. When they lose, they like to make it a spectacle.

That being said, trying to wait out 14.5 as I don’t trust the walk-on period at the end of the game.

[brewcity77]

Should I bet on it?

I'm not a gambler, so take my advice with a grain of salt. But since the start of conference play, Butler has played like the #245 team in the country per Torvik. That's last in the Big East, way behind DePaul and Georgetown. Against top-5 Big East teams (UConn, X, Creighton, Providence) they have lost every game by 20+. As mentioned, their closest loss was 15 in conference play in Newark. On our side, we've played 2 games against the bottom 3 in the league and won both by 20+. And Lukas Harkins pointed out their primary ball handler left the SHU game with a concussion last week and there's no timetable on his return. (Hypothetically he could be back today, but no word on if he's cleared or practicing)

In conference play, they are last in offense, last in eFG%, and last in offensive rebounding. They can't score and can't take advantage of our weaknesses. They have no depth against a team that will make them work for everything. And the crowd is going to be on fire.

Honestly, I don't think they can set the line high enough. -14.5 or -15.5? Take Marquette. -20? Take Marquette. -25? Take Marquette. I think this will be ugly in the best possible way.

[muwarrior69]

Coming in from Indianapolis, and morning radio likes to point out that Butlers best loss in conference is 15. When they lose, they like to make it a spectacle.

That being said, trying to wait out 14.5 as I don’t trust the walk-on period at the end of the game.

...well this is Shaka's opportunity to Give Ben some significant playing time.

[muwarrior69]

Would a loss at home drop us out altogether?

[fjm]

I'm not a gambler, so take my advice with a grain of salt. But since the start of conference play, Butler has played like the #245 team in the country per Torvik. That's last in the Big East, way behind DePaul and Georgetown. Against top-5 Big East teams (UConn, X, Creighton, Providence) they have lost every game by 20+. As mentioned, their closest loss was 15 in conference play in Newark. On our side, we've played 2 games against the bottom 3 in the league and won both by 20+. And Lukas Harkins pointed out their primary ball handler left the SHU game with a concussion last week and there's no timetable on his return. (Hypothetically he could be back today, but no word on if he's cleared or practicing)

In conference play, they are last in offense, last in eFG%, and last in offensive rebounding. They can't score and can't take advantage of our weaknesses. They have no depth against a team that will make them work for everything. And the crowd is going to be on fire.

Honestly, I don't think they can set the line high enough. -14.5 or -15.5? Take Marquette. -20? Take Marquette. -25? Take Marquette. I think this will be ugly in the best possible way.

Great info brew. Making a betting thread. Gonna copy and paste this.

[lawdog77]

Would a loss at home drop us out altogether?

A loss would turn our b-ball team into a non-scholarship sport.

[MU82]

Would a loss at home drop us out altogether?

I want to give you credit for attempting to be sarcastic/funny, but then again you usually are a liberal user of teal.

[LloydsLegs]

I want to give you credit for attempting to be sarcastic/funny, but then again you usually are a liberal user of teal.

No politics

[Daniel]

Bottom linen8s, another conference win today will be sweet.  Especially this time of year. Goo Marquette!