So....What are we ranked on Monday - 10/1/23?

[muwarrior69]

I miss when ESPN used to list the AP Top 25 with results and schedule for each team (i.e., their results from the previous week and their schedule for this week) all on one page.

Any sites out there still doing that?
Thanks

Here: Just the Big East; but at the top go to rankings and pick your team.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/standings/_/group/4

Just click on the team and it is all right there.

Maybe the MODs can make a sticky.

[MuggsyB]

You do realize that there’s no way to reconcile every head to head result, even when the teams are reasonably close otherwise.

And you do realize that we took that team to the cleaners and the game was over within 7 mins?  #b-crap

[Skip Intro]

And you do realize that we took that team to the cleaners and the game was over within 7 mins?  #b-crap

We both have 5 losses, but every team Baylor has lost to is currently in the top 20.  Them being ranked ahead of us seems appropriate, regardless of our demolition.

[THRILLHO]

Only if they called it the AP top 30 and still only gave everyone 25 votes. If they gave everyone 30 votes, we have no idea where Creighton would fall.

But everyone knows what people mean when they say Creighton is #29.

Yes, but the same is true for a ranked team that didn't get on every voters list.

[wisblue]

And you do realize that we took that team to the cleaners and the game was over within 7 mins?  #b-crap

That’s one game.

You really need to take a step back and try to be as objective as possible. If you do that you’ll see there are going to be a lot of examples of teams with somewhat comparable profiles that had head to head meetings, but the loser of the game is rated higher.

Is it #b-crap that Kansas is rated higher than TCU? Does it matter than MU has fewer games against rated teams and has two losses against teams that are not just unranked, but aren’t currently projected to be in the NCAA field.

If that doesn’t help, then consider that these rankings are completely unimportant and aren’t worth getting upset about.

[MuggsyB]

That’s one game.

You really need to take a step back and try to be as objective as possible. If you do that you’ll see there are going to be a lot of examples of teams with somewhat comparable profiles that had head to head meetings, but the loser of the game is rated higher.

Is it #b-crap that Kansas is rated higher than TCU? Does it matter than MU has fewer games against rated teams and has two losses against teams that are not just unranked, but aren’t currently projected to be in the NCAA field.

If that doesn’t help, then consider that these rankings are completely unimportant and aren’t worth getting upset about.

I'm not upset.  But I believe if we play to our potential we can get a 2 seed or a 3 at worst. 

[brewcity77]

I'm not upset.  But I believe if we play to our potential we can get a 2 seed or a 3 at worst.

The AP rankings have absolutely zero impact on what seed we end up getting, so there's no real correlation here.

[wisblue]

The AP rankings have absolutely zero impact on what seed we end up getting, so there's no real correlation here.

Exactly.

[tower912]

Nothing but conversation starters.   MU will be just fine

[TallTitan34]

The AP rankings have absolutely zero impact on what seed we end up getting, so there's no real correlation here.

Ranked teams missing the tournament (while rare) is proof of this.

[MU24]

No idea why Baylor is ahead of MU, but classic bias vs big east I guess.

[Judge Smails]

If we should be ahead of Baylor because we beat Baylor, shouldn’t X be ahead of us because X beat us?  I think I learnt that in my Logic class at MU. 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

If we should be ahead of Baylor because we beat Baylor, shouldn’t X be ahead of us because X beat us?  I think I learnt that in my Logic class at MU. 

Worse, the Bagders would be ahead of us.

[THRILLHO]

If we should be ahead of Baylor because we beat Baylor, shouldn’t X be ahead of us because X beat us?  I think I learnt that in my Logic class at MU. 

Yes, and therefore Socrates is mortal. I didn't really understand that much in logic class but I do remember that was the answer.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Marquette 12 in coaches poll

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[Daniel]

Yes, and therefore Socrates is mortal. I didn't really understand that much in logic class but I do remember that was the answer.

All men are mortal
Socrates is a man
Therefore, Socrates is mortal

Valid logical argument. 

[MU82]

My favorite from freshman Logic (which I believe was Philosophy 1?) was:

I love you.
All the world loves a lover, and you are all the world to me.
Therefore, you love me.

[brewcity77]

No idea why Baylor is ahead of MU, but classic bias vs big east I guess.

I also have Baylor ahead of Marquette in my most recent S-Curve/bracket. As decisive as Marquette's win in Milwaukee was, it was one data point in a season that is now 85 days old. The biggest difference for me is the location of their best wins. Marquette's three best wins (UConn, Baylor, Creighton) all came at home. Baylor has comparable wins (UCLA, Kansas, Gonzaga) but two of those were on neutral courts. Baylor also doesn't have any losses to unranked teams, or teams outside Quadrant 1. Marquette has two such losses. Baylor has also done that against a tougher strength of schedule.

They're pretty close, but if I had an AP vote, I'd put Baylor over Marquette and at this point they have the better resume of the two.

[Dr. Blackheart]

My favorite from freshman Logic (which I believe was Philosophy 1?) was:

I love you.
All the world loves a lover, and you are all the world to me.
Therefore, you love me.

How many stalking complaints were filed against you?

[BallBoy]

If MU wins against Nova and Butler, mixed with Baylor’s loss to Texas MU should be ahead of them next week. Baylor’s loss is far from a bad one and may not move them much but I still think MU moves ahead of them.

[MU82]

How many stalking complaints were filed against you?

Hey, ask my Logic prof how many stalking complaints were filed against him. He's the one who handed that out!

[shoothoops]

KenPom parity deep dive.

https://twitter.com/statsbywill/status/1620415039445532678?t=D7PaxuAG97olUfm72F7HCg&s=19

[muwarrior69]

I also have Baylor ahead of Marquette in my most recent S-Curve/bracket. As decisive as Marquette's win in Milwaukee was, it was one data point in a season that is now 85 days old. The biggest difference for me is the location of their best wins. Marquette's three best wins (UConn, Baylor, Creighton) all came at home. Baylor has comparable wins (UCLA, Kansas, Gonzaga) but two of those were on neutral courts. Baylor also doesn't have any losses to unranked teams, or teams outside Quadrant 1. Marquette has two such losses. Baylor has also done that against a tougher strength of schedule.

They're pretty close, but if I had an AP vote, I'd put Baylor over Marquette and at this point they have the better resume of the two.

How dare you use stats to go against the Scoop narrative. COLE/MOPE

[Newsdreams]

How many stalking complaints were filed against you?

There was no stalking back in the good old days. It all started with wokeness.

[DoctorV]

10/11

Let’s go!