So....What are we ranked on Monday - 1/6/2025?

[Goose]

82

My post was in regard to 1SE saying he would be concerned if they had a late season collapse. I would not be concerned about the upcoming years one bit because I have seen enough positives to feel really good about that future. As for my feelings if they collapsed late season, I would be very pissed off. They are in a very good position, and I expect them to deliver a non bubble bid in March.

I guess a good way to sum it up, they have shown me enough this season that my expectations for upcoming seasons are already higher. I said a month ago that I expect Buzz like success, and I think it is coming.

[1SE]

Man it would be great to get that win vs. X and crack it. After the WI loss I thought we had probably missed our best chance to get there in season. Great to have a very legit chance to get there again.

[warriorchick]

Man it would be great to get that win vs. X and crack it. After the WI loss I thought we had probably missed our best chance to get there in season. Great to have a very legit chance to get there again.

Well, we have certainly proven that we can beat any team in the Big East on any court.

Also, Xavier barely got by DePaul tonight, so they are vulnerable.

[DoctorV]

To answer the question of the thread...

22

[MU82]

I say 20 or higher if we take care of business Sunday.

The folks who said we'd be underdogs in all of these games didn't count on us maybe, you know, winning a couple/few of them.

Will be interesting to see how we do as favorites against a good team.

[StillWarriors]

Well, we have certainly proven that we can beat any team in the Big East on any court.

Also, Xavier barely got by DePaul tonight, so they are vulnerable.

Xavier has not been playing very well for weeks. They are scrappy, but Freemantle is a shell of what he was last year, and Scruggs has not been very good. Odom had a career game v MU, but hasn't done a whole lot since. They can't be a real confident team right now.

Let's avoid the Wojo post-big win slide. Should be a fired up Fiserv on Sunday.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Xavier has not been playing very well for weeks. They are scrappy, but Freemantle is a shell of what he was last year, and Scruggs has not been very good. Odom had a career game v MU, but hasn't done a whole lot since. They can't be a real confident team right now.

Let's avoid the Wojo post-big win slide. Should be a fired up Fiserv on Sunday.

The fans will be ready for the Gold Zipper Out

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Guys,  you never bump the thread when there is still a game to play before the rankings. We're 0 for like forever when that happens

[DoctorV]

Guys,  you never bump the thread when there is still a game to play before the rankings. We're 0 for like forever when that happens

R-E-L-A-X

We were 0 for life at the Fin

[#UnleashSean]

Guys,  you never bump the thread when there is still a game to play before the rankings. We're 0 for like forever when that happens

Sir, were 0-1 under Shaka. We don't talk about the demon WOJO

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Sir, were 0-1 under Shaka. We don't talk about the demon WOJO

I think that streak goes back to TC lol

[DoctorV]

I say 20 or higher if we take care of business Sunday.

The folks who said we'd be underdogs in all of these games didn't count on us maybe, you know, winning a couple/few of them.

Will be interesting to see how we do as favorites against a good team.

You make a lot of great points but this isn't one of them.

I think plenty of people that said we would be underdogs in all of these games counted on us to win a few of them.

As a matter of fact, I know they did, since no one voted MU would go 0-6 in the 6 game gauntlet and over 80% voted 2 wins or more. I was pleasantly surprised with that optimism, shows that Shaka fever is growing.

On the second point about seeing how we do as favorites against a good team, it may take some time. I'm not sure MU will be favored Sunday- could be close to a pickem but likely a slight dog, maybe a slight favorite with this win- and I don't think MU will be favored @SH, @Prov, v Nova, @Uconn.

After that Butler, GTown, Butler, DePaul along with @CU and vStJ. Either teams that aren't good or probably another underdog at Creighton.

If we dance we might be favored versus a good team though, so I can't wait for that!

[auburnmarquette]

As a matter of fact, I know they did, since no one voted MU would go 0-6 in the 6 game gauntlet and over 80% voted 2 wins or more. I was pleasantly surprised with that optimism, shows that Shaka fever is growing.

True, no one should have picked 0-6 - but key was this was the toughest with only a 15% chance to win so outs us so far ahead of par. But even if we were playing 6 straight at nova with a 15% in each, 1-5 is the mathematical expectation.

[MU82]

You make a lot of great points but this isn't one of them.

I think plenty of people that said we would be underdogs in all of these games counted on us to win a few of them.

As a matter of fact, I know they did, since no one voted MU would go 0-6 in the 6 game gauntlet and over 80% voted 2 wins or more. I was pleasantly surprised with that optimism, shows that Shaka fever is growing.

On the second point about seeing how we do as favorites against a good team, it may take some time. I'm not sure MU will be favored Sunday- could be close to a pickem but likely a slight dog, maybe a slight favorite with this win- and I don't think MU will be favored @SH, @Prov, v Nova, @Uconn.

After that Butler, GTown, Butler, DePaul along with @CU and vStJ. Either teams that aren't good or probably another underdog at Creighton.

If we dance we might be favored versus a good team though, so I can't wait for that!

Reasonable.

[Hards Alumni]

Win Sunday and we are 23

[DoctorV]

Texas, Loyola, Illinois, Iowa St should all fall out

[MU82]

Win Sunday and we are 23

7-game winning streak with 4 wins over ranked teams, including one at Finneran, where Nova never loses. I'm thinking we move into the Top 20.

[wadesworld]

Respect the process. Don't skip steps.

[bradforster]

I say 20 or higher if we take care of business Sunday.

The folks who said we'd be underdogs in all of these games didn't count on us maybe, you know, winning a couple/few of them.

Will be interesting to see how we do as favorites against a good team.

Xavier is a two point road favorite.

[4everwarriors]

MU any day and twice on Sunday, hey?

[cheebs09]

Texas, Loyola, Illinois, Iowa St should all fall out

How was Loyola ranked in the first place? Name and racking up some wins against bad teams?

[JakeBarnes]

How was Loyola ranked in the first place? Name and racking up some wins against bad teams?

Name. And the metrics like them. But they did not pass the eye test given their need to go to OT with sub .500 teams

[MU82]

Xavier is a two point road favorite.

Amazing.

It'll be fun to kick another favorite's arse.

[DoctorV]

Amazing.

It'll be fun to kick another favorite's arse.

That's what's up!

[MU82]

I asked earlier how we've done as underdogs. Nobody answered and that's cool ... we're all lazy.

I just looked it up, using the line that Mr. Nielsen posts before every game in the pinned thread (except Seton Hall; he didn't list that one, so I had to look it up elsewhere). Here we go:

Underdog in 13 games:

Illinois +8.5 -- W
Ole Miss +3.5 -- W
W Virg +5 -- W
St. Bon +5 -- L (no cover)
@Madison +6.5 -- L (no cover)
@K State +3.5 -- W
UCLA +5.5 -- L (no cover)
@X +10.5 -- L (cover)
UConn +2.5 -- L (no cover)
Creigh +1 -- L (no cover)
Prov +2 -- W
Hall +1.5 -- W
@Nova +12.5 -- W

Straight up -- 7-6
ATS -- 8-5

Favorites in 6 games:

SIUE -20 -- W (no cover)
UNH -13 -- W (no cover)
NIU -21 -- W (no cover)
Jax St -18 -- W (cover)
@GTown -2 -- W (cover)
DePaul -7.5 -- W (cover)

Straight up -- 6-0
ATS -- 3-3

Overall:
Straight up -- 13-6
ATS -- 11-8

IMHO, 7-6 as underdogs is pretty darn good. Thankfully, neither kenpom nor Vegas oddsmakers nor NET nor anybody else but the guys on the court decide who wins and loses games.