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Cheeks

Quote from: Johnny B on February 09, 2020, 07:50:07 PM
I am the only one who realizes the absurdity of this comment? You do realize you are effectively saying " I'd prefer we weren't playing this well". I mean that's what that is. I'd prefer we lost a few more games to avoid the ranking because Villanova will play extra hard if they find out were ranked tomorrow. If we aren't ranked I dont think they'll even bother preparing for the game and we win in a blowout..

Nope.  First off, I think and have said so for years that human pollsters are a joke.  The computers have captured how good we are for many weeks.  We are what we are in terms of how good we are.

When that number is out in front of you players start to read headlines for the same reason here that some of you get super jacked about being ranked.  It is a double edged sword.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell


pbiflyer


Cheeks

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Johnny B

Quote from: Cheeks on February 09, 2020, 09:16:00 PM
Nope.  First off, I think and have said so for years that human pollsters are a joke.  The computers have captured how good we are for many weeks.  We are what we are in terms of how good we are.

When that number is out in front of you players start to read headlines for the same reason here that some of you get super jacked about being ranked.  It is a double edged sword.
Not sure I really buy that. I think most players can handle it. Not like it effects the play I mean maybe sometimes? Idk very rarely. Being ranked is good for publicity, recruiting etc. Everyone sees the top 25 scores highlights. Puts more butts in the seats generally and creates more interest and support for the team. Also it's a sign you're playing very well. It's not a double edged sword. I don't see any reason we wouldn't prefer be ranked as much as we can.

Ben Golds Five

That's why most peeps have cheeks blocked so we don't see his dumb ass comments. Quoting him just reminds us even further we made the right choice.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Cheeks on February 09, 2020, 09:16:00 PM
Nope.  First off, I think and have said so for years that human pollsters are a joke.  The computers have captured how good we are for many weeks.  We are what we are in terms of how good we are.

When that number is out in front of you players start to read headlines for the same reason here that some of you get super jacked about being ranked.  It is a double edged sword.

Six B1G teams are ranked ahead of MU in KPom. West Virginia is 7th in KPom despite losing to KState, Texas Tech and St. John's. And then there is Gonzaga, Dayton and San Diego State. I love and defend the computer rankings yet we need to interject experience into the equation too.

I mean, last season and preseason with the Brothers MU was Top 10 but did we really think we were? A few here did so I get it. But, I always thought MU was better without them, for example. The eye test has value.


Shooter McGavin

Quote from: 79Warrior on February 09, 2020, 06:46:52 PM
I like the setup going into the Nova game. Much more balanced scoring from MU lately. I think we grab a nice road win @Nova.

I feel ya on this. I think we can take it.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Cheeks on February 09, 2020, 09:16:00 PM
Nope.  First off, I think and have said so for years that human pollsters are a joke.  The computers have captured how good we are for many weeks.  We are what we are in terms of how good we are.

When that number is out in front of you players start to read headlines for the same reason here that some of you get super jacked about being ranked.  It is a double edged sword.

Maybe it would be a double edged sword if the players and staff were mentally fragile like yourself. Luckily I don't believe that to be the case.

JakeBarnes

Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

burger

Quote from: pbiflyer on February 09, 2020, 09:39:54 PM
No worries, you won't be ranked.

Don't worry.....You won't be ranked after losing 5 in a row......

StillAWarrior

#2812
Quote from: MU82 on February 09, 2020, 09:34:29 PM
Always always always better to be ranked.

You've said this in a couple threads, but I think sometimes you have to consider both pros and cons of a situation.  For example, when you win a National Championship, that creates a lot of pressure and expectations the following season.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 10, 2020, 07:26:01 AM
You've said this in a couple threads, but I think sometimes you have to consider both pros and cons of a situatian.  For example, when you win a National Championship, that creates a lot of pressure and expectations the following season.
That's a terrible problem to have.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

warriorchick

Quote from: TSmith34 on February 10, 2020, 08:05:28 AM
That's a terrible problem to have.

OMG, I hope that never happens to us!  It would be absolutely awful!
Have some patience, FFS.

Litehouse

Quote from: TSmith34 on February 10, 2020, 08:05:28 AM
That's a terrible problem to have.
I'm willing to have Marquette carry that burden for the conference.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: warriorchick on February 10, 2020, 08:17:02 AM
OMG, I hope that never happens to us!  It would be absolutely awful!

Exactly...you get it. I understand it's a bigger problem than being ranked, but it's just a matter of degree.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

JakeBarnes

#2817
DeCock at 18 as well.
Leistikow at 17
Bozich at 15
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

mubb3434


lawdog77

Quote from: MU82 on February 09, 2020, 09:34:29 PM
Always always always better to be ranked.
Correct, it also gives the players the validation that all of Wojo's demotivation tactics work!

In all seriousness, its always better to be ranked. If players are looking for a chip, or edge, they should be ranked higher.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: lawdog77 on February 10, 2020, 09:15:34 AM
Correct, it also gives the players the validation that all of Wojo's demotivation tactics work!

In all seriousness, its always better to be ranked. If players are looking for a chip, or edge, they should be ranked higher.

Exactly. It does help recruiting as well. If you want to preach history and such, seeing a good ranking history helps.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

MU82

Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 10, 2020, 07:26:01 AM
You've said this in a couple threads, but I think sometimes you have to consider both pros and cons of a situatian.  For example, when you win a National Championship, that creates a lot of pressure and expectations the following season.

When I first read this, I thought you were doing the non-teal teal thing ... and maybe I still do.

Always better to be ranked for all the reasons others (and I) have been stating: exposure, validation of hard work, recruiting, etc. Not a single downside IMHO. Not one.

Though I already can see by the comments in this and other threads that if we get ranked and if we lose Wednesday, there will be a few mopes bragging, "I told you so," and blaming the ranking for the loss.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

#2822
Up to #16 in the CBS/Parrish rankings
Parrish says Markus is currently his vote for NPOY.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-markus-howard-has-marquette-up-to-no-16-in-top-25-and-1/

JakeBarnes

Quote from: MU82 on February 10, 2020, 09:53:36 AM
When I first read this, I thought you were doing the non-teal teal thing ... and maybe I still do.

Always better to be ranked for all the reasons others (and I) have been stating: exposure, validation of hard work, recruiting, etc. Not a single downside IMHO. Not one.

Though I already can see by the comments in this and other threads that if we get ranked and if we lose Wednesday, there will be a few mopes bragging, "I told you so," and blaming the ranking for the loss.

We all know if we lose on Wednesday, it wasn't the ranking that did it. It was likely because I wasn't sitting in exactly the correct spot on my couch.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

MU82

Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 10, 2020, 10:02:41 AM
We all know if we lose on Wednesday, it wasn't the ranking that did it. It was likely because I wasn't sitting in exactly the correct spot on my couch.

I am pre-hating you for that!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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