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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Herman Cain on March 26, 2019, 08:31:09 PM
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A list of the transfers per Mr. Goodman. Posting this as a new thread for easy reference.
https://watchstadium.com/news/comprehensive-list-of-college-basketball-players-transferring-12-29-2018/
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A list of the transfers per Mr. Goodman. Posting this as a new thread for easy reference.
https://watchstadium.com/news/comprehensive-list-of-college-basketball-players-transferring-12-29-2018/
Thanks.
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Looks like Xavier may have gotten a really good pickup with 6-8 forward Jason Carter from Ohio.
Joel Ntambwe, a 6-9 forward at UNLV, is intriguing. Averaged 11.8 ppg and 5.5 rpg (18.7 DR%) in 24.1 mpg as a freshman. Shot 38.6% from beyond the arc, low turnover rate (12.3%) and efficient offense overall (110.1 ORtg per KenPom). But I know absolutely nothing about him beyond the stats.
Maybe Katin can be our connection to land him.
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Tai Strickland transferring from Wisconsin. My favorite part of this is that Wisconsin fans were insisting that 5-star DJ Carton didn't include them in his final 6 because he was scared he couldn't beat Strickland for playing time.
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Tai Strickland transferring from Wisconsin. My favorite part of this is that Wisconsin fans were insisting that 5-star DJ Carton didn't include them in his final 6 because he was scared he couldn't beat Strickland for playing time.
#DisreGarded
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J'Raan Brooks from USC solid player
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Keith Stone 6'8 and Mike Okauru 6'3 both intriguing guys from Florida
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Keith Stone 6'8 and Mike Okauru 6'3 both intriguing guys from Florida
This guy?
(http://i.makeagif.com/media/1-30-2018/yhHEVW.gif)
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Anyone have insight on Stone? I'm intrigued by the idea of playing a second big alongside Theo/Ed, but he'd likely need to be competent on corner 3's to fit Wojo's offense. 6'8" 250 who shoots 39% from 3 seems like it could fit that bill.
Tore up his knee in January, so that's obviously a risk, but could this guy come off the bench to give us a different look and more size?
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Tai Strickland transferring from Wisconsin. My favorite part of this is that Wisconsin fans were insisting that 5-star DJ Carton didn't include them in his final 6 because he was scared he couldn't beat Strickland for playing time.
A guy I know just told me that when the Strickland news broke again. I completely forgot that was a thing lol.
He also claims that DJ Carton said that Wisconsin was his dream school, but then Gard got Strickland and scared him away.
And this is coming from a person who is normally pretty logical and level headed. Simply amazing.
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Haven't seen MU's name mentioned with anyone yet. Have any of you? @TAMU EAGLE @BREWCITY77
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Haven't seen MU's name mentioned with anyone yet. Have any of you? @TAMU EAGLE @BREWCITY77
They had a top rated transfer student in for a visit, but then the guy saw Markus and Stan arguing in front of Al and got scared off.
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Haven't seen MU's name mentioned with anyone yet. Have any of you? @TAMU EAGLE @BREWCITY77
Honestly, I expect if our name isn't showing up at all, they don't expect any transfers out or other departures.
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Might as well see when all the teams are done playing, still early
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Haven't seen MU's name mentioned with anyone yet. Have any of you? @TAMU EAGLE @BREWCITY77
Still getting the free agent tracker up and running. It's a heavy year so far. Over a 100 grad transfers and we're still in the sweet 16
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Joey Brunk, grad transferring from Butler...
https://twitter.com/JeffRabjohns/status/1111016388007743488
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Joey Brunk, grad transferring from Butler...
https://twitter.com/JeffRabjohns/status/1111016388007743488
To an NAIA program?
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Joey Brunk, grad transferring from Butler...
https://twitter.com/JeffRabjohns/status/1111016388007743488
Would not surprise me if he went to Indiana or even OSU.
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They had a top rated transfer student in for a visit, but then the guy saw Markus and Stan arguing in front of Al and got scared off.
Nicely played, sir.
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Former Marquette commit Philip Flory is on the move again. He was supposed to have a big role for Albany this season...but broke his foot again...twice. Only played in six games. Really unfortunate story, he had a lot of promise before the repeated injuries. I hope he can find good health and somehow still gets the opportunity to play ball at the college level.
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Haanif is visiting Nevada
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Haanif is visiting Nevada
Must have been why Wojo was in Vegas.
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Haanif is visiting Nevada
What if Nate Oats calls Haanif?
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What if Nate Oats calls Haanif?
100% going to Alabama then
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Carter. Traci Carter.
Correct the injustice!
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Carter. Traci Carter.
Correct the injustice!
Lol. Guy was basically invisible in a league where Chartouney was a very solid player. For someone who demands better results I'm not sure charity spots on the team are the way to reach those demands.
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Haanif is visiting Nevada
He has eligibility now?
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Haanif is visiting Nevada
Did his family move?
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Did his family move?
;D
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Former Marquette commit Philip Flory is on the move again. He was supposed to have a big role for Albany this season...but broke his foot again...twice. Only played in six games. Really unfortunate story, he had a lot of promise before the repeated injuries. I hope he can find good health and somehow still gets the opportunity to play ball at the college level.
Was a huge mistake for him to try and come back this year after the injury. I remember reading about it when he said he was going to give it a try and play through the injury. He had a solid initial season at Seton Hall for a walk on, actually played in non junk time and parlayed that into a full scholarship and something potentially good at Albany. Could have sat out this year , healed and the future would have been bright. My advice at this point for him is to go D2, get a scholarship somewhere , and have fun playing basketball.
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So Haanif and Traci come back, Sacar is still with us. Any chance we can get Heldt and Henry some eligibility for next year and we can see what that class might've looked like?
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The link in the opening post is updated as new names emerge by the author
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Jaedon Ledee from Ohio State, a former top recruit that MU was sort of in on. 6ft 9, 240. Thats two big men from OSU that have left, the other kid going to Wisconsin.
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Tai Strickland transferring from Wisconsin. My favorite part of this is that Wisconsin fans were insisting that 5-star DJ Carton didn't include them in his final 6 because he was scared he couldn't beat Strickland for playing time.
Schedenfreude is not generally becoming, TAMU, but since this involves the Badgers it's perfectly acceptable.
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Jaedon Ledee from Ohio State, a former top recruit that MU was sort of in on. 6ft 9, 240. Thats two big men from OSU that have left, the other kid going to Wisconsin.
This reminds me of Tori McCoy (former top recruit, big, transfer from Ohio St)...is she ever going to suit up for Coach Kieger?
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This reminds me of Tori McCoy (former top recruit, big, transfer from Ohio St)...is she ever going to suit up for Coach Kieger?
I was thinking yesterday about what a might-have-been this year was for the women's team. It seems like McCoy's career was cut short, Blockton had her injury this year (and never quite got back to last year's BEPOY level), Davenport misses the end of the season, which completely changed their postseason outlook. They had easily a Sweet 16 and maybe even a Final Four team if they have the full roster as expected, but instead they go 1-1 in the tourney and bow out on an incredibly fluky three from A&M.
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I was thinking yesterday about what a might-have-been this year was for the women's team. It seems like McCoy's career was cut short, Blockton had her injury this year (and never quite got back to last year's BEPOY level), Davenport misses the end of the season, which completely changed their postseason outlook. They had easily a Sweet 16 and maybe even a Final Four team if they have the full roster as expected, but instead they go 1-1 in the tourney and bow out on an incredibly fluky three from A&M.
Agreed. The end result for the women is probably MORE disappointing than what happened to the men. Both crashed out earlier than expected, but the ceiling for the women was WAY higher than the men. Injuries just killed a promising squad full of seniors. That was probably the best team in MUWBB history, and should have been a Sweet Sixteen team AT LEAST.
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Agreed. The end result for the women is probably MORE disappointing than what happened to the men. Both crashed out earlier than expected, but the ceiling for the women was WAY higher than the men. Injuries just killed a promising squad full of seniors. That was probably the best team in MUWBB history, and should have been a Sweet Sixteen team AT LEAST.
I agree completely. It sucked for the men because the end of the year always sucks, but for the women, it was the end of an era. That was the best graduating class in school history. They'll be okay next year, but nothing like this crew that had 2 of the top-3 all time scorers (and 5 of the top-15), 2 of the top-10 rebounders, & 4 of the top-10 assists leaders.
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I agree completely. It sucked for the men because the end of the year always sucks, but for the women, it was the end of an era. That was the best graduating class in school history. They'll be okay next year, but nothing like this crew that had 2 of the top-3 all time scorers (and 5 of the top-15), 2 of the top-10 rebounders, & 4 of the top-10 assists leaders.
If markus stays, and the same thing happens next year the men could say the same
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If markus stays, and the same thing happens next year the men could say the same
Agreed. It's the same reason that 2009 was so disappointing, and frankly Blue's departure in 2013 because it completely changed the potential of the 2014 team. Any time those "what might have been" teams come up short, it's more disappointing than when the team that's returning everyone bows out early because you know they get another kick at the can.
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David Jenkins transferring from South Dakota State.
Go. Get. Him.
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David Jenkins transferring from South Dakota State.
Go. Get. Him.
Word.
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David Jenkins transferring from South Dakota State.
Go. Get. Him.
UNLV following TJ?
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This reminds me of Tori McCoy (former top recruit, big, transfer from Ohio St)...is she ever going to suit up for Coach Kieger?
She has a life threatening condition and was in need of a transplant, as is public. Meanwhile, she remains on the roster and MU continues to support her as a student athlete.
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Marquette mentioned with Louisiana Techs Anthony Duruji and Norte Dames DJ Harvey. Both sit 1 to play 2.
Per Goodman twitter.
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Marquette mentioned with Louisiana Techs Anthony Duruji and Norte Dames DJ Harvey. Both sit 1 to play 2.
Per Goodman twitter.
Duruji had offers from UCF, VCU, and Dayton
Harvey had offers from Nova, Duke, Texas, Xavier, Arizona, UConn, Alabama, Houston, Louisville, Maryland, Memphis, Tennessee
Sign harvey up ASAP
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Harvey missed the second half of his freshman season with a knee injury that required surgery. This past season, he shot just 29.9% from beyond the arc and posted an offensive rating of 95.8 per KenPom on a team that tied for last in the ACC (14-19 overall, 3-15 in conference). What's so great about this guy?
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Duruji had offers from UCF, VCU, and Dayton
Harvey had offers from Nova, Duke, Texas, Xavier, Arizona, UConn, Alabama, Houston, Louisville, Maryland, Memphis, Tennessee
Sign harvey up ASAP
I'd prefer Duruji. Harvey is a low efficiency player on a high efficiency offense. Give me the stretch 4 that was one of the best players on his team over a guy who struggled to get high major minutes on an ACC team that didn't play in the NCAA the last two years. High school offers don't do as much for me as collegiate production.
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Marquette mentioned with Louisiana Techs Anthony Duruji and Norte Dames DJ Harvey. Both sit 1 to play 2.
Per Goodman twitter.
Both are from Maryland. Similar size, 6-6 and 6-7. Look like wing forwards.
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Both are from Maryland. Similar size, 6-6 and 6-7. Look like wing forwards.
Correct. Harvey was a top 50 recruit from Dematha High School and was close to being a Mcdonalds AA. Duruji is from Potomac and was not even ranked coming out of high school.
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Harvey missed the second half of his freshman season with a knee injury that required surgery. This past season, he shot just 29.9% from beyond the arc and posted an offensive rating of 95.8 per KenPom on a team that tied for last in the ACC (14-19 overall, 3-15 in conference). What's so great about this guy?
The belief is that the injury affected his numbers. Give him a year off to recover and maybe he returns to the top 50 prospect he was
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Harvey's numbers as a freshman before the injury (32.6% from beyond the arc, 40.4 2PT%, 97.7 ORtg) aren't that encouraging, either.
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Is there really anyone on this list that would crack the top 8 in the rotation if nobody leaves?
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Is there really anyone on this list that would crack the top 8 in the rotation if nobody leaves?
Kira Lewis Jr. Point Guard Alabama. Sought by many.
https://accsports.com/acc-news/duke-in-the-mix-with-potential-alabama-kira-lewis-plus-some-quick-thoughts-on-tre-jones/
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Most of these are traditional transfers, so not looking for them to play until the 2020-21 season after Markus, Sam, Sacar and Ed move on.
Like I said earlier, Joel Ntambwe of UNLV caught my attention. He's a 6-9 F who started as a freshman and led the team in 3-point percentage and offensive efficiency. He scored 18 points and 7 rebounds in a 77-74 loss to Illinois -- then followed it up with 22 points and 11 rebounds in a 92-90 OT win against BYU.
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Is there really anyone on this list that would crack the top 8 in the rotation if nobody leaves?
If you are talking grad transfers, the list isn't very long. I see maybe 8 guys rights now that I think could crack our rotation next season. It's still early so there may be more.
I wouldn't mind adding another guy who can play the 5 via grad transfer. Shakur Juiston out of UNLV and Nate Sestina out of Bucknell are names I would consider. Derrik Smits out of Valpo or Yanni Wetzel out Vandy if we wanted a quality third center on the roster. Rayjon Tucker out of Little Rock doesn't play the 5 but I think he could do well at most programs. Christian Keeling put up 18 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, and 4 steals for Charleston Southern when they visited the Fiserv while shooting 8/13 from the floor. If coaches aren't convinced that Greg/Sacar/Koby can fill that slashing guard role, he could be an option.
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If you are talking grad transfers, the list isn't very long. I see maybe 8 guys rights now that I think could crack our rotation next season. It's still early so there may be more.
I wouldn't mind adding another guy who can play the 5 via grad transfer. Shakur Juiston out of UNLV and Nate Sestina out of Bucknell are names I would consider. Derrik Smits out of Valpo or Yanni Wetzel out Vandy if we wanted a quality third center on the roster. Rayjon Tucker out of Little Rock doesn't play the 5 but I think he could do well at most programs. Christian Keeling put up 18 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, and 4 steals for Charleston Southern when they visited the Fiserv while shooting 8/13 from the floor. If coaches aren't convinced that Greg/Sacar/Koby can fill that slashing guard role, he could be an option.
Are you going to do your traditional in depth listing this year ? I know it takes a lot of time to do it.
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Are you going to do your traditional in depth listing this year ? I know it takes a lot of time to do it.
I am but it'll likely get up later this year. The sheer number of transfers this early in the process has been hard to track. I'm still doing initial data entry
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Quinerly transferring out of Nova
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Quinerly transferring out of Nova
Not shocking since he sat on bench all year. Just goes to show that at times, though very rare, a top 30 recruit can't beat out/get playing time, over a non ranked high school recruit (Gillespie). Nova has a system and it just didn't work out for the kid. Should be plenty of schools after him.
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Not shocking since he sat on bench all year. Just goes to show that at times, though very rare, a top 30 recruit can't beat out/get playing time, over a non ranked high school recruit (Gillespie). Nova has a system and it just didn't work out for the kid. Should be plenty of schools after him.
Kid had attitude problems . Basketball is a team sport . He can go to Arizona and compete with Nico for playing time now.
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Since when did the "transfer portal" become a thing? I thought players simply had to announce they wished to transfer, and coaches had to release them. Is there some kind of extradimensional gate players walk through that instantly transports them to their new school? Is it like a web portal? Or perhaps it's a physical doorway at NCAA headquarters; players must knock first for the opportunity to transfer.
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Linking an Anonomous Eagle piece on this.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.anonymouseagle.com/platform/amp/2019/4/2/18292188/marquette-golden-eagles-basketball-transfer-recruiting-anthony-duruji-dj-harvey
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Most of these are traditional transfers, so not looking for them to play until the 2020-21 season after Markus, Sam, Sacar and Ed move on.
Like I said earlier, Joel Ntambwe of UNLV caught my attention. He's a 6-9 F who started as a freshman and led the team in 3-point percentage and offensive efficiency. He scored 18 points and 7 rebounds in a 77-74 loss to Illinois -- then followed it up with 22 points and 11 rebounds in a 92-90 OT win against BYU.
I like it... maybe that's why Wojo was out in Vegas??
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I like it... maybe that's why Wojo was out in Vegas??
Nah, like me he likes to roll some bones.
I like to bet the Pass Line, take my odds and then make sure I've got the 5, 6, 8 and 9 covered!
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Nah, like me he likes to roll some bones.
I like to bet the Pass Line, take my odds and then make sure I've got the 5, 6, 8 and 9 covered!
Pass line plus the next two points. Odds on all three.
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Pass line plus the next two points. Odds on all three.
Yessir, that is what "the book" says is the best way to play craps. Theoretically, it gives players the best odds of beating the house -- not just at the craps table but in the entire casino.
But I find it a little too robotic and boring. I like to get all the inside points covered, and/or play some hard-ways every now and then. It's supposed to be fun. I guess I'm willing to pay for that.
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Since when did the "transfer portal" become a thing? I thought players simply had to announce they wished to transfer, and coaches had to release them. Is there some kind of extradimensional gate players walk through that instantly transports them to their new school? Is it like a web portal? Or perhaps it's a physical doorway at NCAA headquarters; players must knock first for the opportunity to transfer.
You have to go to Michigan City, IN in order to transfer/declare for the NBA (player) or change jobs (coach).
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Not shocking since he sat on bench all year. Just goes to show that at times, though very rare, a top 30 recruit can't beat out/get playing time, over a non ranked high school recruit (Gillespie). Nova has a system and it just didn't work out for the kid. Should be plenty of schools after him.
There will be, but this was a worthwhile comment I saw on Twitter:
So the whole Jellyfam has transferred. Stop letting video guys who only like dunks & crossovers influence who is good because of the views they get. Views & Movements do not equal ballgame. It equals profit for the mixtape company.
Those Jellyfam players got a lot of hype but, other than Naz Reid, may have been overrated. Sidney Wilson didn't do much at UConn (after leaving St John's), Jordan Walker left Seton Hall for Tulane, now Quinerly on the move?
Reminds me of Juan Anderson. Good kid, glad he came to MU, but his mixtape made him look like the next Evan Turner. Mixtapes are fun, but don't always tell you the truth about a player.
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Reminds me of Juan Anderson. Good kid, glad he came to MU, but his mixtape made him look like the next Evan Turner. Mixtapes are fun, but don't always tell you the truth about a player.
I'll never get over the Juan Anderson mixtape. I thought we were getting Magic Johnson 2.0 after watching that.......damn shame.
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I'll never get over the Juan Anderson mixtape. I thought we were getting Magic Johnson 2.0 after watching that.......damn shame.
Turned out, he wasn't even Magic Dawson!
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Would like to see MU go after transfer Adam Flagler from Presbyterian
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Yessir, that is what "the book" says is the best way to play craps. Theoretically, it gives players the best odds of beating the house -- not just at the craps table but in the entire casino.
But I find it a little too robotic and boring. I like to get all the inside points covered, and/or play some hard-ways every now and then. It's supposed to be fun. I guess I'm willing to pay for that.
Actually "Don't Pass line" plus the others gives you best odds.
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Actually "Don't Pass line" plus the others gives you best odds.
Best odds of being the least popular guy at the table.
Sorry. Couldn't resist.
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Best odds of being the least popular guy at the table.
Sorry. Couldn't resist.
Agreed, but would you rather lose more money?
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Agreed, but would you rather lose more money?
If I'm remembering correctly, the difference in the odds is like 0.01% or something like that. I'll take my chances.
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Actually "Don't Pass line" plus the others gives you best odds.
Being the optimist that I am, I hate playing the Don'ts. And as SAW says, the difference is negligible.
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Being the optimist that I am, I hate playing the Don'ts. And as SAW says, the difference is negligible.
Actually, looking around a little bit, I think it's 0.05% better odds to play the Don'ts -- 5 cents per $100 wagered.
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Trying to confirm.
Is Blackshear a grad transfer????
I read somewhere he is.
Nice piece.
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Trying to confirm.
Is Blackshear a grad transfer????
I read somewhere he is.
Nice piece.
He's eligible to be. I don't believe he has announced a transfer yet (like Chris Clarke, who is leaving Va Tech as a grad transfer).
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Trying to confirm.
Is Blackshear a grad transfer????
I read somewhere he is.
Nice piece.
If he does we all know where he’s going. He likes maroon
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If he does we all know where he’s going. He likes maroon
I'm not so sure about that. When Buzz left, he took Hill & Pierce, but didn't pursue any Marquette players as transfers, even though between Taylor, Cohen, Burton, & Wilson, we had a number that ended up being productive elsewhere.
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Eric Williams Jr., Duquesne's most talented player, announced his transfer yesterday. 6-6 wing player who averaged 14 pts, 8 boards both his freshman and sophomore years. I've seen him play a few times - incredibly athletic, but can play a little out of control at times. He's from the Detroit area, so there's a good chance he knows our Detroit triumvirate.
Supposedly he already has a visit set up with Mizzou.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2019/04/08/ex-new-haven-star-eric-williams-jr-transferring-duquesne-dukes/3403223002/
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Supposedly he already has a visit set up with Mizzou.
If only we had hired Cuonzo instead of Wojo ...
... we could have been the ones dumped by Cuonzo after 3 mediocre years.
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Admon Gilder flushing out of TAMU as a grad transfer.
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Admon Gilder flushing out of TAMU as a grad transfer.
Maybe TAMU can work his connections!
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Admon Gilder flushing out of TAMU as a grad transfer.
Guessing Texas Tech?
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Admon Gilder flushing out of TAMU as a grad transfer.
He'll be 24 at the start of the season. Could be Markus's dad...
He'll definitely be a hot commodity, and unless Markus leaves, I don't think he'd even consider us. Makes you wonder who Buzz already has coming in to take his place?
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Actually, looking around a little bit, I think it's 0.05% better odds to play the Don'ts -- 5 cents per $100 wagered.
When betting the light side - unless you're playing one Pass bet at a time (boring) - you'll always have chips on the table after a win... sure, you can pull back your place and odds bets when you hit your point, but nobody ever does it, which virtually guarantees that every player betting the light side won't walk away until the board 7's-out.
Conversely, the primary advantage to the dark side is that on a 7-out, no action remains, which makes it extremely convenient to walk away from the table on a win.
The last bet may not seem like it matters after you've been at the table all night, but considering that players have a tendency to wager more at the end of a session, whether they're winning or losing, this really messes up the player models that calculate the "natural odds" of a game (given a certain set of rules). Natural odds are calculated based on the assumption that everything is random, including when the player walks away from the table, but the natural odds are often not the "true odds" at a craps table, because not only is the final bet often more than the average wager, but playing the light side means that said final bet will always be a loss. So the "true odds" of playing the dark side are actually much better than 0.5%... depending on how much and how long you play, it could be more than 5% if you live by the 20x bankroll rule of thumb.
The casinos know this... which is why they help perpetuate the negative stigma of the dark side. Getting dirty looks from other players is one thing, but nothing brings out the stick's passive-aggression like someone playing the dark side at a full table.
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Are you going to do your traditional in depth listing this year ? I know it takes a lot of time to do it.
It took me a week but here you go HC
https://painttouches.com/2019/04/09/2019-ncaa-free-agent-tracker-april-9th-edition/
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I'm not so sure about that. When Buzz left, he took Hill & Pierce, but didn't pursue any Marquette players as transfers, even though between Taylor, Cohen, Burton, & Wilson, we had a number that ended up being productive elsewhere.
Taylor was going to transfer if Buzz stayed so scratch him.....don't think any of those guys were interested in playing for Buzz again(Duane maybe not sure) and Cohen obviously never played for him.
Don't think the fact that they were at MU would have prevented Buzz from pursuing them if he wanted them.
He didn't exactly have the warm and fuzzies for MU when he left......and the feeling was obviously mutual among many he left behind.
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It took me a week but here you go HC
https://painttouches.com/2019/04/09/2019-ncaa-free-agent-tracker-april-9th-edition/
Thanks appreciate the hard work and diligence.
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He'll be 24 at the start of the season. Could be Markus's dad...
He'll definitely be a hot commodity, and unless Markus leaves, I don't think he'd even consider us. Makes you wonder who Buzz already has coming in to take his place?
Any flower pots reported to be thrown at one's coconut, hey?
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Former 5* and McDonalds all american Jordan Brown is transferring from Nevada after his freshman season
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Former 5* and McDonalds all american Jordan Brown is transferring from Nevada after his freshman season
Following Musselman?
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Former 5* and McDonalds all american Jordan Brown is transferring from Nevada after his freshman season
Alford is gonna end up with a roster that looks like St John's.
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Alford is gonna end up with a roster that looks like St John's.
He may sign up Haanif supposedly visiting this weekend
https://247sports.com/college/alabama/Board/102338/Contents/Grad-Transfer-Haanif-Cheatham-Plans-Alabama-Visit-130967283/
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When betting the light side - unless you're playing one Pass bet at a time (boring) - you'll always have chips on the table after a win... sure, you can pull back your place and odds bets when you hit your point, but nobody ever does it, which virtually guarantees that every player betting the light side won't walk away until the board 7's-out.
Conversely, the primary advantage to the dark side is that on a 7-out, no action remains, which makes it extremely convenient to walk away from the table on a win.
The last bet may not seem like it matters after you've been at the table all night, but considering that players have a tendency to wager more at the end of a session, whether they're winning or losing, this really messes up the player models that calculate the "natural odds" of a game (given a certain set of rules). Natural odds are calculated based on the assumption that everything is random, including when the player walks away from the table, but the natural odds are often not the "true odds" at a craps table, because not only is the final bet often more than the average wager, but playing the light side means that said final bet will always be a loss. So the "true odds" of playing the dark side are actually much better than 0.5%... depending on how much and how long you play, it could be more than 5% if you live by the 20x bankroll rule of thumb.
The casinos know this... which is why they help perpetuate the negative stigma of the dark side. Getting dirty looks from other players is one thing, but nothing brings out the stick's passive-aggression like someone playing the dark side at a full table.
I enjoy playing the dark side. The only problem is often you have to do it in silence. So it takes away from the table dynamic where everyone is having a good time on a long and successful roll.
So glad I'm risk averse. That town could eat you alive if you actually enjoy gambling. I do so little that it doesn't matter.
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He'll be 24 at the start of the season. Could be Markus's dad...
Or Chris Otule's youngest son...
cyclops in the paint
a career that would not end
eternal tenure
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He may sign up Haanif supposedly visiting this weekend
https://247sports.com/college/alabama/Board/102338/Contents/Grad-Transfer-Haanif-Cheatham-Plans-Alabama-Visit-130967283/
I thought he was in Florida for family reasons?
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Traci Carter to Hartford. Good luck to him.
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Traci Carter to Hartford. Good luck to him.
He was inspired by his former team's performance there he decided to go there.
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So who are the best options for some depth at the 3/4/5?
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So who are the best options for some depth at the 3/4/5?
The PF from Drexel.
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Ya I imagine we're definitely in on some grad transfers now. We need depth at the 4 bad.
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Sooo any news if wojo has been on any (grad)transfers?
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Ya I imagine we're definitely in on some grad transfers now. We need depth at the 4 bad.
We just lost a ton of rebounding and the new players will not help too much in that regard. If we had more depth at the "5" you could do Theo-Ed at times but that is out. Really need a good rebounder at the 4 for our grad transfer.
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We just lost a ton of rebounding and the new players will not help too much in that regard. If we had more depth at the "5" you could do Theo-Ed at times but that is out. Really need a good rebounder at the 4 for our grad transfer.
any options?
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Carlos Curtis from ETSU is transferring, wants to be closer to home
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Borzello has put together a nice list.
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1118138645297471488?s=12 (https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1118138645297471488?s=12)
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I would say that it's imperative that MU lands a grad transfer/JUCO transfer or two.
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Pretty good crop of guys out there. I assume Wojo has spent the last 24 hours reaching out.
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Virginia Tech's Kerry Blackshear is officially in the portal.
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Virginia Tech's Kerry Blackshear is officially in the portal.
Any flights from Gary to Blacksburg today?
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Virginia Tech's Kerry Blackshear is officially in the portal.
I would guess he's following Buzz.
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Any flights from Gary to Blacksburg today?
Haha. This is great.
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Virginia Tech's Kerry Blackshear is officially in the portal.
Maybe a pipe dream, but that is the type of guy that would get me back to the confidence of 3 days ago for next season.
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Maybe a pipe dream, but that is the type of guy that would get me back to the confidence of 3 days ago for next season.
And there's the rub. Many will crucify Wojo today, but it would be wise to wait until all the pieces for next year are finally in place.
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Virginia Tech's Kerry Blackshear is officially in the portal.
Won't happen, but could you imagine if MU actually ended up better than they were two days ago? I will choose to cling to this dream until it officially dies.
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any options?
Pat Andree of Lehigh could fit as a Hauser replacement. 6'8" forward, averaged 13 and 6, shot 42 percent from beyond the arc (all against lesser competition, of course).
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Hard to read too much into Stan's tweets, but seemed like he was trying to give MU fans some hope this am with one of his cryptic tweets.
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We just lost a ton of rebounding and the new players will not help too much in that regard. If we had more depth at the "5" you could do Theo-Ed at times but that is out. Really need a good rebounder at the 4 for our grad transfer.
Hard to imagine Theo and Ed playing much together given the lack of offense from them. Agree we will be severely undermanned on the boards without immediate help there.
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Hard to read too much into Stan's tweets, but seemed like he was trying to give MU fans some hope this am with one of his cryptic tweets.
Blackshear to Marquette confirmed. #donedeal
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Duz Chartouney have any eligibility left, hey?
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Rayjon Tucker from Little Rock is visiting Memphis and Auburn (and considering several other schools), and Pat Andree from Lehigh is visiting NC State, KSU and TCU.
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Rayjon-Tucker-NBA-Draft-Little-Rock-Auburn-North-Carolina-West-Virginia-Graduate-Transfer-Mempis-131233187/
https://packinsider.com/2019/04/13/lehigh-graduate-transfer-pat-andree-on-official-visit-to-nc-state-this-weekend/
Not finding anything about grad transfers to MU. Anyone?
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Not a transfer but do we have any idea if Eke will be able to play next year? Even if he can play I don’t see him being a whole lot more than 5 more fouls to give.
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First things first, has anyone seen him practice??
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Not a transfer but do we have any idea if Eke will be able to play next year? Even if he can play I don’t see him being a whole lot more than 5 more fouls to give.
I saw an inside marquette interview with him saying that hes excited to play this upcoming season
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Wojo needs to call blacksher and keith stone up
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Wojo needs to call blacksher and keith stone up
And jordan brown
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Wojo needs to call blacksher and keith stone up
Im down though is stone's knee good to go? If you tear an acl in January can you be 100% by basketball season?
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A name to keep in mind.... Dalano Banton SF 6'8 for WKU. didn't put up great numbers but he can seriously play
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Should we be concerned that MU is not being mentioned with high profile transfers? I hope for MU and Wojo's sake that there is a lot of behind the scenes activity.
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I saw an inside marquette interview with him saying that hes excited to play this upcoming season
That's nice to hear, but has Anyone, Anyone seen him practice or play?
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Should we be concerned that MU is not being mentioned with high profile transfers? I hope for MU and Wojo's sake that there is a lot of behind the scenes activity.
There are two reasons for that:
1) The staff was/is confident in the players they already have (and are thus stashing the scholarships) OR
2) The staff was not prepared/anticipating the Hausers' transfers, so they are attempting to play catch up with the relationships of the current transfer list.
In either case, there are zero grad transfer options that can replace the production of the Hausers for next year. Might as well just use them for a traditional transfer or late incoming freshman.
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In either case, there are zero grad transfer options that can replace the production of the Hausers for next year.
Let's go get Blackshear and put that theory top the test. I know it won't happen, but a guy can dream.
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There are two reasons for that:
1) The staff was/is confident in the players they already have (and are thus stashing the scholarships) OR
2) The staff was not prepared/anticipating the Hausers' transfers, so they are attempting to play catch up with the relationships of the current transfer list.
In either case, there are zero grad transfer options that can replace the production of the Hausers for next year. Might as well just use them for a traditional transfer or late incoming freshman.
Well... that's depressing.
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Jemarl Baker is transferring from UK. He's a west coast kid but we were on him when he decommitted from Cal(ifornia) originally. Had injuries most of his time in Lexington but can shoot it. I'd take him.
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Should we be concerned that MU is not being mentioned with high profile transfers? I hope for MU and Wojo's sake that there is a lot of behind the scenes activity.
I think we couldn't seriously get involved until 48 hours ago. I know the hope is to land a grad transfer but we are getting into the game very late. I posted this before:
I'm working on an update that should come out in the next few days.
But if I'm Wojo, I'm looking at:
Kerry Blackshear
Rayjon Tucker Jr
Justin Pierce
Daniel Utomi
Keith Stone
Matt Ryan
Alihan Demir
Pat Andree
The top two virtually make up for a lost Hauser. The others would go a long way towards filling the gaps they left behind.
Since then Justin Pierce has trimmed his list to three, Daniel Utomi committed to USC, and Pat Andree committed to NC State. Tucker Jr has already gone on a visit to West Virginia and set up a visit to Memphis. Grad transfer options at PF are already thin. Lots of guards still available. We may be too late to the table for any of these except Blackshear (who the whole world is after). Best bet may be to hope that a good grad transfer PF emerges later (which will happen) and go all in. If not, we are going to playing a lot of four guard sets next season. We can still win a lot of games that way, but it severely lowers our ceiling IMHO.
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Jemarl Baker is transferring from UK. He's a west coast kid but we were on him when he decommitted from Cal(ifornia) originally. Had injuries most of his time in Lexington but can shoot it. I'd take him.
I agree on Baker. His numbers weren't impressive at Kentucky, but he can shoot and is athletic. Also a plus defender. He's a good sit out prospect.
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So John Diener is transferring from DePaul. Isn't he Travis' cousin?
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So John Diener is transferring from DePaul. Isn't he Travis' cousin?
Nephew i thought
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He's Travis' cousin. His father Bob, and John's father Tom, are brothers. Tom was the coach at Vincent when they were the State powerhouse back in the 90s.
Not to be confused with Dick, who is Drake's father, and Bob and Tom's brother, who was the long-time coach at Fond du Lac.
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So John Diener is transferring from DePaul. Isn't he Travis' cousin?
After redshirting his frosh season.
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Khavon Moore from TTU transferring, wojo was going hard after him but i heard moore has a new kid in georgia
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Im down though is stone's knee good to go? If you tear an acl in January can you be 100% by basketball season?
Most research says to wait a full year before going back, so maybe January.
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Khavon Moore from TTU transferring, wojo was going hard after him but i heard moore has a new kid in georgia
He's from Macon, a little over an hour from Georgia's campus. My guess is Crean lands him.
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In either case, there are zero grad transfer options that can replace the production of the Hausers for next year. Might as well just use them for a traditional transfer or late incoming freshman.
6-10 David Skogman from Waukesha West is someone Mark Miller is saying MU is showing some interest in. Has a good skillset for a 6-10 player and has some athletic ability. 18.3 points and 12.7 rebounds a game. Continuing to develop physically.
Add a player like Skogman and Torrence to the 2019 class and each class has 3 players in it.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=skogman+waukesha+west&&view=detail&mid=A53CB19AAF5198522C55A53CB19AAF5198522C55&&FORM=VRDGAR
Skogman's backstory.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=david+skogman&&view=detail&mid=37F53CF821CB99CB623937F53CF821CB99CB6239&&FORM=VRDGAR
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Is a Torrence reclassification a realistic possibility?
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Is a Torrence reclassification a realistic possibility?
Yes. And I'd say it's looking more like a certainty.
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Wojo needs to call blacksher and keith stone up
Yeah, by my math blackshear would almost replace Sam's value. I picked Sam as all-Big East and Blackshear as all-ACC. Do we have a Blackshear connection or is he just wish list.
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Yes. And I'd say it's looking more like a certainty.
Why? What intel do you have?
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https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=skogman+waukesha+west&&view=detail&mid=A53CB19AAF5198522C55A53CB19AAF5198522C55&&FORM=VRDGAR
Skogman's backstory.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=david+skogman&&view=detail&mid=37F53CF821CB99CB623937F53CF821CB99CB6239&&FORM=VRDGAR
Bing? Isn't this the 21st century?
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Yeah, by my math blackshear would almost replace Sam's value. I picked Sam as all-Big East and Blackshear as all-ACC. Do we have a Blackshear connection or is he just wish list.
I think just wish list. Kentucky was one of the first to reach out. Guessing they are the team to beat.
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Yeah, by my math blackshear would almost replace Sam's value. I picked Sam as all-Big East and Blackshear as all-ACC. Do we have a Blackshear connection or is he just wish list.
MSU? spartanavenue.com (http://spartanavenue.com)
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Haanif Cheatham to Nebraska. #donedeal
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Haanif Cheatham to Nebraska. #donedeal
Hoiberg is off to a good start.
Omaha World-Herald
Haanif Cheatham committed to Nebraska on Saturday.
The 6-foot-5, 195-pound graduate transfer from Florida Gulf Coast is currently on an official visit in Lincoln.
Cheatham told The World-Herald everything just felt right, so he pulled the trigger.
“My visit has been great. I’ve enjoyed everything. It’s been nothing but good times,” Cheatham said.
Cheatham averaged 13.2 points, 4.8 rebounds and 1.9 assists last season at FGCU. He shot 45.4% from the floor and 36.4% from 3-point range. Cheatham’s season was cut off after 10 games due to a shoulder injury. He had surgery on that shoulder in December and says he’s 100 percent.
Cheatham transferred from Marquette to Florida Gulf Coast for his senior year. He’ll now finish up as a Husker.
Cheatham was recruited by Matt Abdelmassih. The two knew each other from their Big East connections — Cheatham played at Marquette when Abdelmassih coached at St. John's. When Abdelmassih went to Nebraska, the two reconnected.
“It’s been great. We’ve been working on that relationship every day,” Cheatham said.
Cheatham says he’ll be on campus this summer and will bring leadership into the locker room. He said he'll play whatever role Fred Hoiberg needs.
“I’m ready to rock and roll," he said.
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Yes. And I'd say it's looking more like a certainty.
Well good. He should get off the AAU circuit then.
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Haanif tweet:
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Haanif tweet:
Isn't it university of Nebraska? And when he committed to us didn't he call it university of Marquette?
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Isn't it university of Nebraska? And when he committed to us didn't he call it university of Marquette?
Duane Wilson said U of Marquette when he announced.
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Is there anything out there to indicate that Wojo has reached out to Blackshear or Juiston? Easily the best fit for this team would be those 2 of the grad transfer options. We have 3 damn scholarships - I hope we plan to use them. The silence has been a little troubling.
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Wojo seems ta bee targetin' da 2020 klass. Just a little presumptuous, aina?
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Brew mentioned this in the recruiting thread, but MU appears to be in on Drexel forward Alihan Demir. Averaged 14.8 ppg/6.4 rpg for Drexel.
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Careful what you wish for. The only ‘19 recruits we seem to be linked with are 6-10 local project David Skogman and Drexel grad transfer Alihan Demir.
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Save the spot for next season. Never sign guys just to sign guys.
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Is there anything out there to indicate that Wojo has reached out to Blackshear or Juiston? Easily the best fit for this team would be those 2 of the grad transfer options. We have 3 damn scholarships - I hope we plan to use them. The silence has been a little troubling.
Juiston is good but I don't see him as a fit. I'd like a floor spacer and rebounder. Juiston is only one of those
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Save the spot for next season. Never sign guys just to sign guys.
We have 3 spots, not 1 spot.
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Save the spot for next season. Never sign guys just to sign guys.
A grad transfer means the scholie would be open again for 2020.
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Wojo got caught with his pants down. Never stop recruiting, aina?
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Careful what you wish for. The only ‘19 recruits we seem to be linked with are 6-10 local project David Skogman and Drexel grad transfer Alihan Demir.
'bout as excitin' as Chartouny, hey?
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Juiston is good but I don't see him as a fit. I'd like a floor spacer and rebounder. Juiston is only one of those
+1
I think a bench forward that can be a 3 and D guy is the best fit. Keith Stone is off the board, but Demir & Matt Ryan seem to fit that bill.
I also like Skogman. Big body that can shoot & run the floor. If he's healthy, I think he's a great long term prospect. And I'll admit, if you're going to offer shadow anyone right now, it's Chris Beard.
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J5
We do not need bodies, we need players to replace Hauser boys. If it takes a year, so be it.
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'bout as excitin' as Chartouny, hey?
Chart puny ended up being one of three guards on the roster. The Drexel kid will be a 6'9 guy on a roster with Theo, ed, BB, and Cain. With an offense that will be 3 guard oriented. He is a luxury, not a projected starter.
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If we landed Demir, I would not expect him to be one of our top five players. He could be a valuable piece off the bench. If he outperforms, he could earn a starting spot.
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If we landed Demir, I would not expect him to be one of our top five players. He could be a valuable piece off the bench. If he outperforms, he could earn a starting spot.
That would be my takevof any grad transfer big MU might get. Don’t think we’ll get any top names.
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That would be my takevof any grad transfer big MU might get. Don’t think we’ll get any top names.
Blackshear and RayJon Tucker would both be immediate starters and fill huge needs IMHO. Not sure if MU has any chance with either. At the moment, all other grad transfers either don't fit our most immediate needs (shooting forward) or would be bench players for us. There are also still grad transfers that haven't been revealed yet.
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Blackshear and RayJon Tucker would both be immediate starters and fill huge needs IMHO. Not sure if MU has any chance with either. At the moment, all other grad transfers either don't fit our most immediate needs (shooting forward) or would be bench players for us. There are also still grad transfers that haven't been revealed yet.
Tucker is the one I'd most like. Blackshear is a massive impact player, but we seem to have the 5 covered and frankly I think he's as good as committed to Kentucky. A 6'7" wing that can stretch the floor would be perfect. Really not many others on the market that I even think could be expected to challenge for a starting role, at least not at a position of need.
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If we go the graduate transfer route, I'm of course hoping we can find another impact player or two. Tough defenders, rebounders and post-up players are at the top of my wish list.
However, even if a grad transfer does nothing more than provide depth off the bench like Matt Heldt did, that's still valuable to the team. If you recall, Theo and Ed have a tendency to get into foul trouble. Then it'll be up to newcomers like Koby, Greg, Ike, Dexter and possibly Symir (along with improvement across the rest of the roster) to make up for Sam and Joey's production.
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Isn't it university of Nebraska? And when he committed to us didn't he call it university of Marquette?
That was actually JuJuan Johnson
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That was actually JuJuan Johnson
It was Duane (perhaps also Duane). 45-second mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQsue1iGing
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That was actually JuJuan Johnson
Why was a guy who went to Purdue talking about Marquette?
It's Jajuan Johnson that played for us
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Yeah, but did any of them think Marquette was in Michigan?
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Yeah you need players to replace the Hauser's production. But you aren't going to find them for next year. So you add the depth you can.
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If they can't get grad transfers that are impact guys(starters for MU next year), whether you can "re use" the scholarship for 2020 or not, then I'm not interested in just adding "bodies" as grad transfers. At that point, I'd just rather play with what they have and use the schollies on traditional transfers(preferably ones with 3 years left).
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If they can't get grad transfers that are impact guys(starters for MU next year), whether you can "re use" the scholarship for 2020 or not, then I'm not interested in just adding "bodies" as grad transfers. At that point, I'd just rather play with what they have and use the schollies on traditional transfers(preferably ones with 3 years left).
Normally I would agree, but the problem is this team has no depth. We have one freshman who wasn't really highly ranked and seems a bit of a project. We have Ike who has been hurt and hardly can seem at this point like a reliable player.
That means eight guys who have played somewhat significant minutes. Sorry but they are just going to need more than that because at some point someone will be injured.
Here is how I would prefer filling the last three scholarships.
1. Symir reclass
2. Grad transfer, even if its the 7th or 8th guy in the rotation
3. Traditional transfer who doesn't become eligible until 2020-21
Maybe in lieu of #2 you throw a scholarship at Skogman to see what he can do. But if you end up doing only two of the three above, it isn't the worst thing in the world. But they need bodies.
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Fluff
Again, think long term. If adding one body makes NC contenders, go for it. Otherwise, use those spots thinking about the future. Wojo got caught with his pants down, no need to double down and sign a stiff.
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Yeah you need players to replace the Hauser's production. But you aren't going to find them for next year. So you add the depth you can.
I think you have to count on Koby, Greg, & development from other players being that replacement. You certainly won't have the same roster on paper that was there with the Hausers, but if this year is the benchmark, I'm not sure the talent is really that much less in 2020 than it was in 2019. It's different, for sure, but not necessarily less than.
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Fluff
Again, think long term. If adding one body makes NC contenders, go for it. Otherwise, use those spots thinking about the future. Wojo got caught with his pants down, no need to double down and sign a stiff.
Again, adding a grad transfer - even a stiff - in no way impacts the class of 2020 and beyond. There's literally no reason to be against adding much-needed depth to the roster for next season via grad transfer, even if that depth is an 8th-10th man.
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Fluff
Again, think long term. If adding one body makes NC contenders, go for it. Otherwise, use those spots thinking about the future. Wojo got caught with his pants down, no need to double down and sign a stiff.
I don’t think you should add people to add people beyond next year. But they simply may need bodies next year.
Unless you are talking about Skogman. Yeah he might end up a stiff. It just depends on if the staff thinks he has upside.
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Fluff
Yes, I am talking about the honorable mention all area player that our staff met with last night.
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Fluff
Again, think long term. If adding one body makes NC contenders, go for it. Otherwise, use those spots thinking about the future. Wojo got caught with his pants down, no need to double down and sign a stiff.
Just because a guy isn’t going to lead us to immediate final 4 contenders doesn’t mean it a bad pick up. Grabbing guys for the sake of grabbing guys is one thing, but grabbing guys that can be depth prices in the front court would be very nice to have around.
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Wojo got caught with his pants down, no need to double down and sign a stiff.
#badanologies
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Fluff
Yes, I am talking about the honorable mention all area player that our staff met with last night.
Who has a scholarship offer from the national runner up coached by everyone's new savior, Chris Beard.
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Fluff
If you are NC runner up, you can take fliers. If Wojo had the boys at FF this year, I would give him the green light. If he would not have signed the Waukesha kid prior to Hausers leaving, he should pass today.
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If Skogman is a stiff, someone should tell Chris Beard. He offered him before we did, and has a tendency to find 3-star recruits that have first round NBA talent. He may not be a first year starter, but he has 3-4 year upside.
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Apparently only good coaches can take flyers on a guy like Skogman.
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If he would not have signed the Waukesha kid prior to Hausers leaving, he should pass today
Disagree here. The team's needs have clearly changed. Worth at least a look now.
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Brew
Had you heard of the kid being MU radar prior to a week ago? You, and others, feel next years recruiting class is going to be a home run, so save the spot for next season. There is no need to rush into filling spots. This is what I was talking about when I said long term success is the ultimate goal.
Marcus
The kid will not play a second next year. Sign a player that can play, I'm all for it. To sign a kid that will not sniff the court is foolish.
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Brew
Had you heard of the kid being MU radar prior to a week ago? You, and others, feel next years recruiting class is going to be a home run, so save the spot for next season. There is no need to rush into filling spots. This is what I was talking about when I said long term success is the ultimate goal.
Marcus
The kid will not play a second next year. Sign a player that can play, I'm all for it. To sign a kid that will not sniff the court is foolish.
He won't play a second next year? On a team with only eight returning players with experience? You know this how???
Regardless, with three scholarships available now, and two additional next year, Marquette can afford to take a flier on a guy the coaching staff believes has upside. And if it doesn't work out, he can look elsewhere.
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Brew
Had you heard of the kid being MU radar prior to a week ago? You, and others, feel next years recruiting class is going to be a home run, so save the spot for next season. There is no need to rush into filling spots. This is what I was talking about when I said long term success is the ultimate goal.
There wasn't an immediate need for a potential stretch four last week. Roster changes beget recruiting changes.
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Pakuni
He has no chance to play next year. Why take up a spot for guy to sit on the bench for a season?
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He won't play a second next year? On a team with only eight returning players with experience? You know this how???
Regardless, with three scholarships available now, and two additional next year, Marquette can afford to take a flier on a guy the coaching staff believes has upside. And if it doesn't work out, he can look elsewhere.
No sense in playing this game Fluff. Goose has spoken. The staff has not been recruiting him long enough for him to be any good.
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Pakuni
He has no chance to play next year. Why take up a spot for guy to sit on the bench for a season?
You know this how? A 6-10 kid with range would seem to have a decent shot at playing time on a team with no clear-cut four next season.
FWIW, Michigan is kicking the tires with Skogman. John Beilein also in the biz of wasting scholies?
https://umhoops.com/2019/02/20/recruiting-roundup-michigan-evaluating-late-rising-2019-big-man/
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Pakuni
Matt H. would not play next season if he had not graduated. I give up...you guys are right. Sign away!!!!!!!
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Pakuni
Matt H. would not play next season if he had not graduated. I give up...you guys are right. Sign away!!!!!!!
Matt played an important role in a couple games this season as a senior. That's all I would be expecting out of a guy like Skogman as a freshman.
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I see both sides here... obviously a sudden need, but I don't see him giving much more than 5 fouls at the 5 in 2019/20. He will not be some Joey/Sam replacement level player in 19/20. Give him a year and you never know, but you'd have to compare that to some of the realistic 6'9-6'11 targets we have for 2020. Most likely a kid like Garcia or Sibley wouldn't be scared away by him, but there's only so many scholarships to give. I think the Akanno signing is sort of the issue here. At this point would prefer to have a project stretch 4/5 vs project guard for 2019. Obviously a lot has happened since that signing, but having two guys on scholarships who on paper are limited/projects is a bit much for MU IMO.
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Pakuni
Matt H. would not play next season if he had not graduated. I give up...you guys are right. Sign away!!!!!!!
Based on everything I've read, Skogman and Heldt are not the same player.
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No one hits on all 13 scholarships. I like the idea of taking a flyer on a late bloomer, especially one with size who can step out and shoot it. Pick and pop bigs have become commonplace at the next level but are a luxury item in the college game.
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You know this how? A 6-10 kid with range would seem to have a decent shot at playing time on a team with no clear-cut four next season.
FWIW, Michigan is kicking the tires with Skogman. John Beilein also in the biz of wasting scholies?
https://umhoops.com/2019/02/20/recruiting-roundup-michigan-evaluating-late-rising-2019-big-man/
If John Beilein is involved with a player, that’s a player I’d want Marquette involved with
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The kid will not play a second next year. Sign a player that can play, I'm all for it. To sign a kid that will not sniff the court is foolish.
Agree that MU shouldn't sign someone just to fill a roster spot. Every scholarship is valuable. If we can sign a player who can help the team this year and/or in years to come, he's worth a look.
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Pakuni
He has no chance to play next year. Why take up a spot for guy to sit on the bench for a season?
Solid logic. Since only 8-9 guys routinely get minutes, we might as well only ever use 9-10 scholarships so we can save the others for all the guys who we might sign the following year.
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Solid logic. Since only 8-9 guys routinely get minutes, we might as well only ever use 9-10 scholarships so we can save the others for all the guys who we might sign the following year.
Well, there is always the chance of injuries.......
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Pakuni
Matt H. would not play next season if he had not graduated. I give up...you guys are right. Sign away!!!!!!!
Putting Skogman aside, I think this is an interesting point/topic. What makes you believe that Matt H would not see the floor next year? Curious on your thoughts.
From my view, and as it stands, Morrow + Theo ought to find time on the court together in 19-20. If we had a Matt H-type 3rd string C, perhaps even more likely to see that lineup due to the tail coverage. If John and Morrow are among the 5 best players then Wojo must do what it takes to get them into that lineup (more than just a pure time split). We will play some physical teams and it might be best for us to play these two for 25 minutes apiece... Can't be done without a fallback, IMO.
Obviously, there are all sorts of qualifiers to the above including Theo's fouling, but those have been debated ad nauseum.
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Putting Skogman aside, I think this is an interesting point/topic. What makes you believe that Matt H would not see the floor next year? Curious on your thoughts.
From my view, and as it stands, Morrow + Theo ought to find time on the court together in 19-20. If we had a Matt H-type 3rd string C, perhaps even more likely to see that lineup due to the tail coverage. If John and Morrow are among the 5 best players then Wojo must do what it takes to get them into that lineup (more than just a pure time split). We will play some physical teams and it might be best for us to play these two for 25 minutes apiece... Can't be done without a fallback, IMO.
Obviously, there are all sorts of qualifiers to the above including Theo's fouling, but those have been debated ad nauseum.
Matt would play. He is not very good which is why Goose contends he wouldn't play, but given the roster conditions he would play maybe 10mpg out of necessity.
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Pakuni
Matt H. would not play next season if he had not graduated. I give up...you guys are right. Sign away!!!!!!!
It don't matta 'cuz hoo knows hoo's coachin' dis teem in 2020, hey?
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Sew wood a walk-on. Y tie up a schollie and set da program further back. O, maybee mediocre basketball is all wee need ta have heer, hey?
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We need somebody besides Theo and Ed, for a couple really important reasons:
1. Fouls
As the third big off the bench, Matt played 10 or more minutes in 6 games last season. Only one of them was a complete blowout (14 minutes against Southern). The others were all critical games:
MU v. KU, 12 min, Theo and Ed w/ 4 fouls ea. (68-77 L)
MU v. KSU, 10 min, Theo and Ed w/ 4 fouls ea. (83-71 W)
MU at Gtown, 10 min, Theo w/ 4 fouls, Ed DNP (74-71 W)
MU at Xavier, 20 min, Theo w/ 5 fouls, Ed 7 min (87-72 W)
MU at Nova, 10 min, Theo and Ed w/ 4 fouls ea. (61-67 L)
Can Ike play the 3rd man? I hope so. You're not necessarily looking for a star, just someone who can hold down the position. One way or another we need more depth inside -- both for the 2019-20 season and beyond.
2. Illness and injury
Fortunately, this hasn't been a huge concern the past couple seasons. But what happens in even the most mundane scenario: Theo or Ed get hit with the flu and can't play for a game? Frontcourt depth gives you more flexibility to deal with the unexpected.
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Sew wood a walk-on. Y tie up a schollie and set da program further back. O, maybee mediocre basketball is all wee need ta have heer, hey?
Scholarships are 1 year deals. If the kid sucks, so what. Cut him and re issue the scholarship to someone else. This isn't rocket science. Burning anything more than 1 scholarship to keep open for a mid year transfer is lunacy IMO. Plus mid year transfers generally are not guys you really want as they've already proven to be mid season quitters, so I generally advocate for using all your scholarships.
Symir + best grad possible + best traditional transfer we can get our hands on seems like a good use of the final 3 spots.
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Symir + best grad possible + best traditional transfer we can get our hands on seems like a good use of the final 3 spots.
This makes a lot of sense to me.
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I think Ike handles the Heldt minutes this year. He is in the pictures with the rest of the team, including in the weight room. Working up to Ed minutes in 20-21.
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I think Ike handles the Heldt minutes this year. He is in the pictures with the rest of the team, including in the weight room. Working up to Ed minutes in 20-21.
Agreed, hope he's cleared. If so, I've no doubt he'll make up for it
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I think Ike handles the Heldt minutes this year. He is in the pictures with the rest of the team, including in the weight room. Working up to Ed minutes in 20-21.
At the banquet Ike told Dodds that he was 60% and that he feels "like he can't play basketball anymore". I will be pleasantly surprised if we see him suit up at all next season. Just seems like he'll be injury prone for his career.
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At the banquet Ike told Dodds that he was 60% and that he feels "like he can't play basketball anymore". I will be pleasantly surprised if we see him suit up at all next season. Just seems like he'll be injury prone for his career.
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/Ike-Eke-injury-update-131323742/
Context. In the very next sentence, he says he thinks he will play the next two years.
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https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/Ike-Eke-injury-update-131323742/
Context. In the very next sentence, he says he thinks he will play the next two years.
Reading. In the sentence you reference, he says he still WANTS to play and play for two more years. The entire tone of the interview had a very bleak outlook, IMO.
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https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/Ike-Eke-injury-update-131323742/
Context. In the very next sentence, he says he thinks he will play the next two years.
The two more years comment is kind of telling as well. He should theoretically be able to play 3 years for sure, and would very likely get a waiver for a 6th year (4th year on court).
Ike is very unlikely to ever play a game in an MU uniform. We basically have 4 openings.
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look at all of these quitters and traitors.
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The two more years comment is kind of telling as well. He should theoretically be able to play 3 years for sure, and would very likely get a waiver for a 6th year (4th year on court).
Ike is very unlikely to ever play a game in an MU uniform. We basically have 4 openings.
Ike will be 21 before the upcoming season begins.
Could just be that he doesn't envision himself in college when he's 24/25 years old.
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IKe was recently cleared to resume workouts and practices with the team. They think he re-aggravated his previous injury from doing too much too soon in his earlier rehab, so they are taking it slower this time. I assume he will gradually work himself in to playing shape over the spring and summer.
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Reading. In the sentence you reference, he says he still WANTS to play and play for two more years. The entire tone of the interview had a very bleak outlook, IMO.
I got 'frustrated I have not been able to contribute yet, but determined to play.'
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Charlie Moore, KU guard transfers to DePaul
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Charlie Moore, KU guard transfers to DePaul
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-depaul-charlie-moore-transfer-20190422-story,amp.html
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Brew
Had you heard of the kid being MU radar prior to a week ago? You, and others, feel next years recruiting class is going to be a home run, so save the spot for next season. There is no need to rush into filling spots. This is what I was talking about when I said long term success is the ultimate goal.
I knew Skogman was getting high major interest before the Hausers left, & that MU was talking to him the next day indicates they had already done due diligence on him.
As far as next year, as much as I'd love the Jalen Suggs/Nimari Burnett/Jalen Johnson/Jamari Sibley/Dawson Garcia class, I'm not counting on anything.
If Skogman is healthy (he had a heart attack on the court 10 months ago) he has some great attributes. Size, shooting, rebounding, he's a legit prospect. He's an ideal redshirt candidate. Sit and strengthen, learn from Theo & Ed, then start contributing. I think the redshirt is underutilized & programs like Wisconsin, Gonzaga, & Villanova have shown how much value it can have. Here we've seen how much better Sacar got, saw Rowsey & Joey hit the ground running, & will get the chance to see how Elliott comes off it.
I agree about long term success, and unless you're Duke or Kentucky, that means having some guys that will likely contribute more as upperclassmen and provide value in practice while they learn this level. And worse case scenario, they transfer if they are out of their depth.
If you could guarantee me those above five names, it would be a different story, but my guess is we more likely land 2 or at most 3 of them. Stars are great, but you need program guys too.
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I knew Skogman was getting high major interest before the Hausers left, & that MU was talking to him the next day indicates they had already done due diligence on him.
As far as next year, as much as I'd love the Jalen Suggs/Nimari Burnett/Jalen Johnson/Jamari Sibley/Dawson Garcia class, I'm not counting on anything.
If Skogman is healthy (he had a heart attack on the court 10 months ago) he has some great attributes. Size, shooting, rebounding, he's a legit prospect. He's an ideal redshirt candidate. Sit and strengthen, learn from Theo & Ed, then start contributing. I think the redshirt is underutilized & programs like Wisconsin, Gonzaga, & Villanova have shown how much value it can have. Here we've seen how much better Sacar got, saw Rowsey & Joey hit the ground running, & will get the chance to see how Elliott comes off it.
I agree about long term success, and unless you're Duke or Kentucky, that means having some guys that will likely contribute more as upperclassmen and provide value in practice while they learn this level. And worse case scenario, they transfer if they are out of their depth.
If you could guarantee me those above five names, it would be a different story, but my guess is we more likely land 2 or at most 3 of them. Stars are great, but you need program guys too.
Thanks for this outstanding post.
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One other thought on Skogman...just because the offer wasn't there pre-Hauser doesn't mean it isn't worth it now. I think it's a safe assumption that most of our minutes for next year are spoken for by the 10 remaining scholarship players, which gives the staff even more freedom to use the last scholarships. If that means a grad transfer, a sit-out transfer, a 2020 reclassification, or a 2019 project, so be it.
If anything, the departure of the Hausers made a guy like Skogman a better option. Who knows, maybe the only thing separating Marquette from a Skogman offer was the thought of the Hausers returning & Torrence reclassifying.
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Charlie Moore, KU guard transfers to DePaul
When he left California, he claimed it was to be closer to a sick relative. Lawrence was technically closer but still a flight away. I wonder if this move is for the same reason and if given the NCAA's new found leniency towards waivers, if he will be immediately eligible.
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One avenue I hadn't thought of that MU could possibly explore(not sure what's out there, because I don't think there is a public list anywhere), is someone who de-committed somewhere for 2019 due to a Coaching change. My main concern is next year right now, and taking as few steps back as possible from the "top 10" status they would have had with the Hausers. 2020 will take care of itself. It's funny because we have gotten TONS of recruiting news lately about MU on 2020 kids, which is an oddity in the Wojo regime...and yet, there has been virtually NOTHING about next year and who they might be looking at(possibly a couple of "body" grad transfers") other than Skogman and interest in him, but again, as good as his upside may be, he does NOTHING for them this next year, which again is my concern right now.
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11 days ago, it was widely believed there wasn't need or room for an impact recruit. It was assumed a 5star guard was going to stay at prep school because there was no minutes to be had. OF COURSE there was no chatter about 2019 recruits.
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11 days ago, it was widely believed there wasn't need or room for an impact recruit. It was assumed a 5star guard was going to stay at prep school because there was no minutes to be had. OF COURSE there was no chatter about 2019 recruits.
Then no...but my point is, there should be a sh*t ton of it now...should have been from that Monday the transfer was announced.
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Starting about 80 yards back in this 100 yard dash.
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Starting about 80 yards back in this 100 yard dash.
Not on Grad transfers, Blackshear is still out there, Juiston is still out there, there are others.
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True, and we shall see how that plays out. The best hope for an impact 2019 recruit is for Torrence to reclassify.
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Pretty good looking kid playing HORSE at Neeskara this afternoon, hey?
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4ever
MKE Holy Grail of ball.
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Reading. In the sentence you reference, he says he still WANTS to play and play for two more years. The entire tone of the interview had a very bleak outlook, IMO.
For what it's worth, just throwing this out there but the way I read the "play and play two more years" was that he wants to play (this year) and play two more years.
Now, whether he can and be effective is a huge variable. I think we'd all love to see him able to suit up. Even if he can get 100 minutes this year, that could be really good for his morale and to set him up for the future if he can stay healthy.
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When he left California, he claimed it was to be closer to a sick relative. Lawrence was technically closer but still a flight away. I wonder if this move is for the same reason and if given the NCAA's new found leniency towards waivers, if he will be immediately eligible.
The Blue Rats are already counting on it.
https://247sports.com/college/depaul/Article/DePaul-was-able-to-snag-local-transfer-Charlie-Moore-on-Monday-131419967/?fbclid=IwAR2ORv6UiW7CqY-e512csMHUqFdhFVzEb_LohuRuzvxPHzgQTD9Zg5nl1gI
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Mentioned in another thread, but add Akwasi Yeboah (6-6 SF, 16.7 ppg and 7.7 rpg at Stony Brook) to the list of grad transfers MU is talking to.
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Mentioned in another thread, but add Akwasi Yeboah (6-6 SF, 16.7 ppg and 7.7 rpg at Stony Brook) to the list of grad transfers MU is talking to.
Athletic. Solid ball handler, who can attack the basket. Has had some really good games against strong teams (e.g. Providence, Michigan State, South Carolina).
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Mentioned in another thread, but add Akwasi Yeboah (6-6 SF, 16.7 ppg and 7.7 rpg at Stony Brook) to the list of grad transfers MU is talking to.
Yeboah and Demir are the exact kinds of guys I was hoping they'd pursue. They can just be 3 and D guys, not have to provide star minutes, and if they don't pan out they are likely 8th-10th guys anyway. If they are better than expected and push Brenden/Sacar/Cain for minutes, even better.
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Yeboah and Demir are the exact kinds of guys I was hoping they'd pursue. They can just be 3 and D guys, not have to provide star minutes, and if they don't pan out they are likely 8th-10th guys anyway. If they are better than expected and push Brenden/Sacar/Cain for minutes, even better.
We've discussed at length in the other thread, but Yeboah seems like a much better fit for this team than Demir. Demir looks slowfooted and is very poor on D. Yeboah on the other hand, sign me up.
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Yeboah and Demir are the exact kinds of guys I was hoping they'd pursue. They can just be 3 and D guys, not have to provide star minutes, and if they don't pan out they are likely 8th-10th guys anyway. If they are better than expected and push Brenden/Sacar/Cain for minutes, even better.
With all due respect Brew, they should be aiming higher then this..having to rely on Bailey/Cain as starters... great kids, they work hard, and undoubtedly will improve during the offseason..but they are best as role players..one of them starting?? That's okay, but both?? That's not going to replace Sam and Joey's production...that's just reality.
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With all due respect Brew, they should be aiming higher then this..having to rely on Bailey/Cain as starters... great kids, they work hard, and undoubtedly will improve during the offseason..but they are best as role players..one of them starting?? That's okay, but both?? That's not going to replace Sam and Joey's production...that's just reality.
Why are you so fixated on the dumb “Sam and Joey’s replacements need to match Sam and Joey’s production?” We have two guys who didn’t play one minute for us this past season who might be able to replace some of what the Hausers provided...the guys who start in their place don’t need to do what they did. We have more options.
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With all due respect Brew, they should be aiming higher then this..having to rely on Bailey/Cain as starters... great kids, they work hard, and undoubtedly will improve during the offseason..but they are best as role players..one of them starting?? That's okay, but both?? That's not going to replace Sam and Joey's production...that's just reality.
The idea that we will get players who mimic their production is not reality. Most likely, McEwen steps in as a starter. Then one of Bailey, Cain, or an as yet unknown steps into the other spot. And you hope the two new starters, along with progression from the rest of the team, offsets the loss.
For your own sake, you need to accept that we aren't going into the transfer market this off-season & finding two guys that can replicate the production the Hausers provided. Only one team in the country will do that this summer, and that's Wisconsin, Michigan State, Virginia, or Iowa.
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The idea that we will get players who mimic their production is not reality. Most likely, McEwen steps in as a starter. Then one of Bailey, Cain, or an as yet unknown steps into the other spot. And you hope the two new starters, along with progression from the rest of the team, offsets the loss.
For your own sake, you need to accept that we aren't going into the transfer market this off-season & finding two guys that can replicate the production the Hausers provided. Only one team in the country will do that this summer, and that's Wisconsin, Michigan State, Virginia, or Iowa.
Hey man, you have been beating the "expectations can't change just because the Hausers left" drum yourself. So...why should they?? Granted Joey's production can be made up for, or close to it, with Bailey/Cain. If Wojo isn't aiming higher because he doesn't want to bring in another starter and upset the current players..well..it's his job to put the absolute best team he possibly can on the floor.
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With all due respect Brew, they should be aiming higher then this..having to rely on Bailey/Cain as starters... great kids, they work hard, and undoubtedly will improve during the offseason..but they are best as role players..one of them starting?? That's okay, but both?? That's not going to replace Sam and Joey's production...that's just reality.
Bailey and Cain are poised for breakout seasons. Koby and Greg bring a lot to the table .
I like the make up of this team . Should have great team chemistry.
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Hey man, you have been beating the "expectations can't change just because the Hausers left" drum yourself. So...why should they?? Granted Joey's production can be made up for, or close to it, with Bailey/Cain. If Wojo isn't aiming higher because he doesn't want to bring in another starter and upset the current players..well..it's his job to put the absolute best team he possibly can on the floor.
Program expectations shouldn't change. But Kerry Blackshear isn't walking through that door and there aren't any other proven difference makers out there.
The burden will fall on the players that are here and the grad transfers should be expected to be bench players because that's the likely reality.
I think Wojo needs to deliver. I just don't see that many home runs among the grads at a position of need. Yeboah looks as promising as any of the mid and low majors.
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Program expectations shouldn't change. But Kerry Blackshear isn't walking through that door and there aren't any other proven difference makers out there.
The burden will fall on the players that are here and the grad transfers should be expected to be bench players because that's the likely reality.
I think Wojo needs to deliver. I just don't see that many home runs among the grads at a position of need. Yeboah looks as promising as any of the mid and low majors.
I'm telling you you are underselling Shakur Juiston..Maybe you just haven't seen enough of him to really know..but he is NOT solely a back to the basket player..he can step out to 15 feet. in 2017-2018 he shot 58-127 45% on 2 point jump shots.
He was the #1 rated JUCO player when he committed to UNLV. He's a better scorer, and better rebounder than either Ed or Theo. He would be a difference maker.
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Program expectations shouldn't change. But Kerry Blackshear isn't walking through that door and there aren't any other proven difference makers out there.
The burden will fall on the players that are here and the grad transfers should be expected to be bench players because that's the likely reality.
I think Wojo needs to deliver. I just don't see that many home runs among the grads at a position of need. Yeboah looks as promising as any of the mid and low majors.
Agreed, there are no true difference makers out there for MU but there are helpers. Which is fine, we need help and depth. But, no Chartouneys. Though MU has done well on that front prior to him.
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Goodman removed Marquette from schools in consideration for DJ Harvey, Notre Dame transfer (sit 1, play 2). He is visiting Iowa and Vandy.
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Interesting to see if the Ewing Theory applies to 2 players leaving?
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Mentioned in another thread, but add Akwasi Yeboah (6-6 SF, 16.7 ppg and 7.7 rpg at Stony Brook) to the list of grad transfers MU is talking to.
Per Rothstein, Yeboah to visit TCU this weekend. Already visited Rutgers and SMU.
No mention of an MU visit scheduled yet. Apparently someone with the coaching staff met with him yesterday though.
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Seventh Woods UNC back up point guard put his name in for transfer . Will have one year of eligibility left. Saw handwriting on wall when UNC got Cole Anthony commitment.
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Seventh Woods UNC back up point guard put his name in for transfer . Will have one year of eligibility left. Saw handwriting on wall when UNC got Cole Anthony commitment.
I’m thinking it had less to do with Cole Anthony (who steps into the spot Coby White was in) and more that he just doesn’t have much of a role at UNC, with or without Cole.
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Seventh Woods UNC back up point guard put his name in for transfer . Will have one year of eligibility left. Saw handwriting on wall when UNC got Cole Anthony commitment.
I prefer First Woods. Seventh is just a sign of mediocrity.
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Another Creighton transfer special. The Blue Jays picked up Antwann Jones from Memphis. I guess that NIT game at home against Memphis earlier this year was an unofficial visit. He will sit one year and have three years of eligibility.
https://www.omaha.com/creighton/mens-basketball/creighton-adds-long-term-backcourt-depth-with-memphis-transfer-antwann/article_959ac985-3de8-5696-a877-caf5d4884314.html
Looks like the Jays also picked up a quality outside shooter in Jalen Windham who decommited from Georgia State after their coach left. The Creighton brand of offense instantly appealed to the young man.
https://www.omaha.com/creighton/mens-basketball/creighton-lands-commitment-from-indianapolis-guard-jalen-windham/article_4ab5ae75-61f4-5019-a676-9a2d24b3db2e.html
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MU has been in contract with Kentucky transfer Jemerl Baker.
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MU has been in contract with Kentucky transfer Jemerl Baker.
I don't doubt this given he was interested in us before. Any link or anything?
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I don't doubt this given he was interested in us before. Any link or anything?
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Arizona, Arizona St, Cal, Utah, Providence, Marquette, Nebraska, San Diego St, Fresno St, St Mary’s, Santa Barbara among others are schools that reached out to Kentucky transfer Jemarl Baker. Visits are set to begin this month.
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Thanks for the update on Baker. Looks like a quick, athletic guard with a good shot. Could be a nice addition.
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Arizona, Arizona St, Cal, Utah, Providence, Marquette, Nebraska, San Diego St, Fresno St, St Mary’s, Santa Barbara among others are schools that reached out to Kentucky transfer Jemarl Baker. Visits are set to begin this month.
Thank you. I appreciate it. Definitely a good perimeter defender that was at least known out of HS as a sharpshooter from 3. De and 3 guards are always nice.
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6'5 wing Isaiah Moss from Iowa just entered the transfer portal. Went to Simeon in Chicago. Averaged 9.2 ppg and shot 42% from 3PT. You'd have to think we would be reaching out, right? He'd be immediately eligible.
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6'5 wing Isaiah Moss from Iowa just entered the transfer portal. Went to Simeon in Chicago. Averaged 9.2 ppg and shot 42% from 3PT. You'd have to think we would be reaching out, right? He'd be immediately eligible.
Maybe MU reaches out but I am not sure it's a perfect fit.
He doesn't really address the rebounding issues. If he was 6-8 and could rebound, then definitely go after him.
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https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1124108039961874433?s=21
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Maybe MU reaches out but I am not sure it's a perfect fit.
He doesn't really address the rebounding issues. If he was 6-8 and could rebound, then definitely go after him.
We could use another shooter. I don't know anything about him, but if he is tough and can play some D, I'm pretty sure we could find playing time for a 42% 3-point shooter, no?
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https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1124108039961874433?s=21
That seems like a stretch to me, but those are decent programs reaching out so there must be some potential there.
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We could use another shooter. I don't know anything about him, but if he is tough and can play some D, I'm pretty sure we could find playing time for a 42% 3-point shooter, no?
I know nothing about his defense. His two point shooting is so bad it pretty much negates his 3 point shooting. He can shoot FT; nearly 80%.
He'd be ok, I guess, but I'd much rather take a long term prospect like Jemarl Baker.
One spot is going to be held for Torrence to enroll 2nd semester (my best guess). I prefer one traditional transfer and one grad transfer for the other two spots. But it depends who Wojo can land.
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I know nothing about his defense. His two point shooting is so bad it pretty much negates his 3 point shooting. He can shoot FT; nearly 80%.
He'd be ok, I guess, but I'd much rather take a long term prospect like Jemarl Baker.
One spot is going to be held for Torrence to enroll 2nd semester (my best guess). I prefer one traditional transfer and one grad transfer for the other two spots. But it depends who Wojo can land.
It'd be interesting to see a shot chart/heat map on him, given the disparity between these numbers. If his 3pt and FT shooting is solid, I'd be surprised if his midrange game was bad. Maybe he's just bad off the bounce/at the rim? I like to think that if the offense features more ball movement this season, that deficiency could get hidden.
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It'd be interesting to see a shot chart/heat map on him, given the disparity between these numbers. If his 3pt and FT shooting is solid, I'd be surprised if his midrange game was bad. Maybe he's just bad off the bounce/at the rim? I like to think that if the offense features more ball movement this season, that deficiency could get hidden.
According to T Rank, 45.2% at the rim & 32.6% on other 2FGA.
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He'd be ok, I guess, but I'd much rather take a long term prospect like Jemarl Baker.
One spot is going to be held for Torrence to enroll 2nd semester (my best guess). I prefer one traditional transfer and one grad transfer for the other two spots. But it depends who Wojo can land.
MU could recruit Baker and bring the kid from Iowa in under the scenario you just laid out.
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MU could recruit Baker and bring the kid from Iowa in under the scenario you just laid out.
True. We'll have to see what Jayce Johnson decides first.
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Adam Gilder to Gonzaga.
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I don't doubt this given he was interested in us before. Any link or anything?
https://www.aseaofblue.com/2019/5/2/18527246/uk-basketball-jemarl-baker-arizona-wildcats-nebraska-cornhuskers-recruiting
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Per twitter
Five schools Jemarl Baker has planned visits to: Fresno State, Arizona State, Arizona, San Diego State and Marquette.
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Per twitter
Five schools Jemarl Baker has planned visits to: Fresno State, Arizona State, Arizona, San Diego State and Marquette.
MU is the geographic outlier here. Don’t know if that’s good or not.
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Per twitter
Five schools Jemarl Baker has planned visits to: Fresno State, Arizona State, Arizona, San Diego State and Marquette.
I like it, kid has a lot more potential than he got the opportunity to show at Kentucky.
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I like it, kid has a lot more potential than he got the opportunity to show at Kentucky.
I wouldn't mind him at all, and Wojo has done a pretty good job with the transfers he has brought in...Morrow, Rowsey etc. I just wish one of these years they could get a guy that has 3 years left instead of two.
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Don’t wanna speculate too much but I’d keep an eye on Jordan Lathon from UTEP next year.
6’4” point guard Was a high major recruit before his admission denial from Northwestern. Had a really nice Freshman campaign at UTEP last season.
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Don’t wanna speculate too much but I’d keep an eye on Jordan Lathon from UTEP next year.
6’4” point guard Was a high major recruit before his admission denial from Northwestern. Had a really nice Freshman campaign at UTEP last season.
Is he transferring?
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Don’t wanna speculate too much but I’d keep an eye on Jordan Lathon from UTEP next year.
6’4” point guard Was a high major recruit before his admission denial from Northwestern. Had a really nice Freshman campaign at UTEP last season.
Denied admission to Northwestern? How's he gonna get into MU?
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I wouldn't mind him at all, and Wojo has done a pretty good job with the transfers he has brought in...Morrow, Rowsey etc. I just wish one of these years they could get a guy that has 3 years left instead of two.
So...Jemarl Baker then?
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So...Jemarl Baker then?
Jemarl had a redshirt year due to injury. Maybe he can petition to get that year back?
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Jemarl had a redshirt year due to injury. Maybe he can petition to get that year back?
A sign you're getting old, when all the recruiting classes blend together in the memory. :-[
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So...Jemarl Baker then?
Yeah I was going to say, he only has two years left. :)
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As far as anyone knows, he only has two years left. I do think the NCAA has been more gracious with their waivers lately and I could see a scenario where he gets that year back.
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As far as anyone knows, he only has two years left. I do think the NCAA has been more gracious with their waivers lately and I could see a scenario where he gets that year back.
I would not expect the NCAA to give either Jemarl or Joey a 6th year waiver. That would completely change past precedent.
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Where's BeeJay, hey?
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I would not expect the NCAA to give either Jemarl or Joey a 6th year waiver. That would completely change past precedent.
Yes it would. Just like a lot of waivers last season changed past precedent. I'm not expecting it just merely musing that it could be a possibility.
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So it appears the current plan is Jayce Johnson + Baker + Symir for the final 3.
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Some ACTUAL news.
Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
Sounds as though Utah grad transfer Jayce Johnson close to making a decision. Nebraska and Marquette the two frontrunners. Johnson averaged 7.1 points and 7.7 rebounds this past season for the Utes.
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Some ACTUAL news.
Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
Sounds as though Utah grad transfer Jayce Johnson close to making a decision. Nebraska and Marquette the two frontrunners. Johnson averaged 7.1 points and 7.7 rebounds this past season for the Utes.
The MU twitterverse seems very anti Jayce Johnson. I get it a little bit, he doesn't seem like an awesome fit, but I will always take depth. Even if he is used purely as a depth piece at the 5. Theo fouls like crazy and Ed has always been a big injury concern.
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The MU twitterverse seems very anti Jayce Johnson. I get it a little bit, he doesn't seem like an awesome fit, but I will always take depth. Even if he is used purely as a depth piece at the 5. Theo fouls like crazy and Ed has always been a big injury concern.
Johnson commits fouls at a rate close to theo’s. It would be hammer ball down there for sure. Not sure he’s a good fit but also wouldn’t mind having the extra depth there. I don’t think morrow or John have the skills to move to the 4 unfortunately.
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Johnson commits fouls at a rate close to theo’s. It would be hammer ball down there for sure. Not sure he’s a good fit but also wouldn’t mind having the extra depth there. I don’t think morrow or John have the skills to move to the 4 unfortunately.
Yah, I mean he doesn't really get me excited either. But I'd definitely take the depth. We're an Ed or Theo injury away from being dangerously short on anything resembling front court depth.
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Yes, please. We need another rebounder/rim protector.
This would allow Ed to get more PT at the 4, which is one of the reasons he transferred in the first place.
I would no mind seeing a lineup of:
Theo or Jayce
Ed or Jamal
Brendan or Sacar
Greg or Kobe
Markus or Dexter
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Other than Ed saying he wanted to play the 4, is there anything at all indicating that he has the skill set to do so? I mean, we all saw his results when shooting from outside of 5 feet, and the stats experts can correct me if I am wrong but I didn't see good results when he was asked to guard in space.
How is he going to be effective at the 4 at either end of the court?
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In the right offensive system, Ed could absolutely play the 4 with Theo/Jayce. It would require a new offensive look for us that we have not seen in the Wojo era. If the staff are willing to go in that direction it could absolutely work. Or they could not change and Jayce would push Theo and Ed for the starter's job. He'd be a valuable pickup either way.
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Other than Ed saying he wanted to play the 4, is there anything at all indicating that he has the skill set to do so? I mean, we all saw his results when shooting from outside of 5 feet, and the stats experts can correct me if I am wrong but I didn't see good results when he was asked to guard in space.
How is he going to be effective at the 4 at either end of the court?
I think he answer to that question is no. The stats bear our that he was a pretty horrific defender on contesting outside shots. Obviously the sample size is small and he played the 5 either 100% to close to 100% while he was on the court, so ya never know. But I think the concern is that he wouldn't stretch the floor at all at the 4 and would struggle to guard quicker PFs.
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Also....saw on Twitter that Rayjon Tucker is currently in Milwaukee. Posted a picture of the Bucks practice facility. No word that he is actually visiting Marquette, but thought it was worth sharing.
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I'm thinking John and Johnson would be the primary centers. Ed would be a PF & 3rd C.
Marquette could still play a stretch 4 for 20-25 minutes. Though not ideal, Johnson adds depth and another option for Wojo.
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Also....saw on Twitter that Rayjon Tucker is currently in Milwaukee. Posted a picture of the Bucks practice facility. No word that he is actually visiting Marquette, but thought it was worth sharing.
https://twitter.com/Tak3FlightTuck/status/1125819430859091968
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https://twitter.com/Tak3FlightTuck/status/1125819430859091968
that's kind of an NCAA and NBPA violation right there if it's part of an official visit.
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770 D1 transfers this year. And the number keeps growing. 769 reasons why.
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Don’t wanna speculate too much but I’d keep an eye on Jordan Lathon from UTEP next year.
6’4” point guard Was a high major recruit before his admission denial from Northwestern. Had a really nice Freshman campaign at UTEP last season.
That would be a shocker. Don't think MU would go there.
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Jayce to MU!
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that's kind of an NCAA and NBPA violation right there if it's part of an official visit.
How so? Maybe he knows one of the players/coaches?
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770 D1 transfers this year. And the number keeps growing. 769 reasons why.
I saw that.
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Passed the 800 mark last night.
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Passed the 800 mark last night.
For those keeping track at home, that is 17% of all D1 players. The percentage is actually a little higher than that as that assumes ALL 365 used each of their 13 scholarships, which obviously is not the case.
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Passed the 800 mark last night.
So what you're saying is the "mutiny" at MU is...less than the average number of exits per NCAA D1 men's basketball team?
Huh.
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So what you're saying is the "mutiny" at MU is...less than the average number of exits per NCAA D1 men's basketball team?
Huh.
Yes and no. Two transfers is nothing. But it is very rare to see projected starters transfer from a perceived top 10 team.
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Yes and no. Two transfers is nothing. But it is very rare to see projected starters transfer from a perceived top 10 team.
Especially when they averaged almost 34 and 30 mpg on an NCAA team and took 602 shots between them.
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Especially when they averaged almost 34 and 30 mpg on an NCAA team and took 602 shots between them.
Character revealed
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That would be a shocker. Don't think MU would go there.
Obviously nothing official yet, but I heard rumbling that he was putting out the feelers.
No MU mention in those rumbling but he’s a good player.
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Yes and no. Two transfers is nothing. But it is very rare to see projected starters transfer from a perceived top 10 team.
But it's also probably fairly rare to have two starters for a perceived top 10 team being brothers.
Mustapha Herron was 1st in points and 3rd in rebounds per game for SEC champion Auburn and he decided to transfer, and even AFTER the transfer Auburn went into the season ranked 11th/12th. If he had a freshman brother who was starting at Auburn they probably would've seen 2 starters transfer as well.
Stuff happens. This was not a mutiny, despite what the meat lovers will have you believe.
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Yes and no. Two transfers is nothing. But it is very rare to see projected starters transfer from a perceived top 10 team.
Do we know of an instance where this EVER happened?
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Do we know of an instance where this EVER happened?
I am not sure how good Memphis would of been, but they had brothers transfer to Kansas.
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Also....saw on Twitter that Rayjon Tucker is currently in Milwaukee. Posted a picture of the Bucks practice facility. No word that he is actually visiting Marquette, but thought it was worth sharing.
He is declared for the NBA Draft so I am assuming he was there for a work out at the bucks practice facility but maybe he visited Marquette while he was here.
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He is declared for the NBA Draft so I am assuming he was there for a work out at the bucks practice facility but maybe he visited Marquette while he was here.
Bucks started working out players for the draft yesterday.
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Do we know of an instance where this EVER happened?
Two players? Off the top of my head no. But I think Wades point is fair that brothers do make it a special situation. There have been other instances of a single player transferring from a top 10 team despite being a starter.
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For those keeping track at home, that is 17% of all D1 players. The percentage is actually a little higher than that as that assumes ALL 365 used each of their 13 scholarships, which obviously is not the case.
And yet, people scoffed when someone around here once said that over 40% of D-I basketball players transfer. Looks like the number could be closer to 51% now.
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I am not sure how good Memphis would of been, but they had brothers transfer to Kansas.
Oh, and another pet peeve of mine, Bilsu - it's would have, should have, could have. Or you could just use the contraction, should've. Or even Brooklynese - shoulda.
(http://i.imgur.com/ltInhsM.gif)
Thanks for letting me get this off of my chest.
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Two players? Off the top of my head no. But I think Wades point is fair that brothers do make it a special situation. There have been other instances of a single player transferring from a top 10 team despite being a starter.
So if Scooter and Rodney McCray had transferred it would have amounted to losing only one starter from a top 10 team because they were brothers? Somehow I don't think Denny Crum or the Louisville faithful would have looked at it that way.
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So if Scooter and Rodney McCray had transferred it would have amounted to losing only one starter from a top 10 team because they were brothers? Somehow I don't think Denny Crum or the Louisville faithful would have looked at it that way.
Did I say it amounted to losing 1 starter?
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Are we still recruiting any potential transfers, or are we done? I assume that the big minutes are pretty well distributed at this point and it would be hard to recruit a guy into 5-10ish minutes.
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Are we still recruiting any potential transfers, or are we done? I assume that the big minutes are pretty well distributed at this point and it would be hard to recruit a guy into 5-10ish minutes.
No more Grad transfers that we've been mentioned with. Jemarl Baker from Kentucky is a sit-out transfer and is supposedly going to visit. I would be surprised if he doesn't go west though.
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So if Scooter and Rodney McCray had transferred it would have amounted to losing only one starter from a top 10 team because they were brothers? Somehow I don't think Denny Crum or the Louisville faithful would have looked at it that way.
Somehow I think Denny Crum would have a warm tingle of laughter comparing the Hauser boys to the McCrays who each played a number of years in the NBA.
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The McCrays were compensated to well to look to transfer anywhere. Louisville is corrupt.
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Are we still recruiting any potential transfers, or are we done? I assume that the big minutes are pretty well distributed at this point and it would be hard to recruit a guy into 5-10ish minutes.
I haven't seen any updates on transfers where Marquette is pursuing.
The only one who somehwat intrigues me (at this point) is Brandonn Kamga from High Point.
SF, 6-5, 220, can play PF in spots due to 7 FT wing span, very respectable at the 3PT line, not very quick though
maybe he would be interested in spot minutes at the highest level to open up the floor for a team that is expected to be pretty good.
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Seth Towns of Harvard is transferring, won Ivy league player of the year last season averaging 16 and 6 boards
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Seth Towns of Harvard is transferring, won Ivy league player of the year last season averaging 16 and 6 boards
Will graduate and have two years left.
https://defpen.com/harvard-seth-towns-season-ending-knee-surgery/
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Former four-star recruit Dahmir Bishop leaving Xavier.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2020/01/02/xavier-basketball-freshman-dahmir-bishop-transfer/2794486001/
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Former four-star recruit Dahmir Bishop leaving Xavier.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2020/01/02/xavier-basketball-freshman-dahmir-bishop-transfer/2794486001/
Transfer List
http://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/2020
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The casinos know this... which is why they help perpetuate the negative stigma of the dark side. Getting dirty looks from other players is one thing, but nothing brings out the stick's passive-aggression like someone playing the dark side at a full table.
You are saying words and I know what those words mean. But I have no idea what this post is saying. Gambling, like so many other things, truly has a language all to it's own. :o
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Seth Towns of Harvard is transferring, won Ivy league player of the year last season averaging 16 and 6 boards
sure, let's take a guy with a history of knee injuries and hasn't played a full season since 2017-18.
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sure, let's take a guy with a history of knee injuries and hasn't played a full season since 2017-18.
You get 13 scholarships. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Maybe he doesn't work out. Oh well.
I'd also take Kevin Durant on the Bucks despite his history of leg injuries and missing all of one season and most of another.