4ever you now have your topic. Go for it.
This isn't a Milwaukee story, but interesting. Last weekend squads from all 5 precincts responded to a shots fired call which was on the block our office is on. 130 casings were found within 2 blocks. We found over 30 on our property, and our building was grazed. The neighbor biz across the street has security video of shooters on our sidewalk and people laying on the ground to avoid gunfire. Amazingly, no one was hit (or reported an injury).
The ATF is parking a squad in our parking lot this weekend to deter more activity. They must suspect something is up for this weekend.
I heard explosions in Kyiv are on the rise. Oops, wrong topic.
For those actually interested in following Marquette Safety Alerts, they have a dedicated webpage:
https://today.marquette.edu/?s=safety+alert
Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/marquettepd
And ways to sign up for automated alerts:
https://www.marquette.edu/mupd/safety-alerts.php
Though, I suspect the only poster that wants to post the information here, already follows those sources, and has an agenda.
Safety Update: Credit card skimmer recovered near campus
The Marquette University Police Department has recovered a credit card skimming device from the 7-Eleven convenience store located at 17th St. and West Wells St. The device is believed to have been in place for approximately six weeks. If you have made a purchase at the store in the last six weeks and swiped your credit or debit card, MUPD encourages you to monitor your account closely and change your PIN.
Only card swipe transactions may have been affected and not tap transactions.
MUPD offers the following safety tips to safeguard your credit card and personal information from being stolen by skimming machines:
Make purchases with chip-enabled cards.
Pay with cash instead of plastic.
Use an online or mobile payment service such as Apple Pay, Google Pay or PayPal.
Set up alerts to monitor activity on your credit and debit cards.
Regularly review your credit and debit card statements to check for suspicious transactions.
Pick gas pumps in well-lit areas within the line of sight of store employees. Scammers tend to install credit card skimming devices at pumps that are hard to see.
Avoid ATMs in out-of-the-way locations.
Go to another ATM or gas pump when you suspect the presence of a credit card skimmer.
If you observe any suspicious behavior or fear for your safety at any time, contact MUPD at (414) 288-1911 or through the mobile blue light feature on the Eagle Eye app.
Marquette Today logo
R
Thanks for the update, Doc.
Just don't pay and it's a non-issue, hey?
"Pay with cash instead of plastic"
Pre-pandemic I always made small purchases with cash ( not things like gas though). But then places actively wanted you to use plastic so I switched...🤷♀️
Quote from: wadesworld on March 25, 2022, 12:59:54 PM
Just don't pay and it's a non-issue, hey?
Sounds about right.
I once got my debit card skimmed from an actual bank ATM in Chicago. That was super fun
Quote from: JWags85 on March 25, 2022, 04:22:14 PM
I once got my debit card skimmed from an actual bank ATM in Chicago. That was super fun
Helps explain why U of Chicago and Northwestern can't attract any students.
Quote from: MU82 on March 25, 2022, 05:37:03 PM
Northwestern
One of those comfy northern suburbs.
Safety Alert: March 26, 2022 | 12 p.m.The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below.
If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Two incidents: armed robbery and shooting
Incident location: 17th Street and Kilbourn Avenue, 15th Street and Kilbourn Avenue
Approximate time: 12 p.m.
Victims: One Marquette student, one non-Marquette-affiliated individual
Physical injuries: Yes, one non-Marquette-affiliated individual
One suspect approached the first victim, a Marquette student, displayed a firearm and demanded property at 17th Street and Kilbourn. The suspect fled east on foot. At 15th Street and Kilbourn the same suspect discharged a weapon and injured a non-Marquette-affiliated individual. The second victim was transported to the hospital. The suspect fled north from 15th Street and Kilbourn Avenue on foot.
I am very happy the cameras and MU police are there to keep the campus safe. Yet another time MU is highlighted on local news for crime "near" campus. Armed robbery and shooting are no big deal, I had a homeless person bother me on campus back in the early 80's.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 02:11:12 PM
I am very happy the cameras and MU police are there to keep the campus safe. Yet another time MU is highlighted on local news for crime "near" campus. Armed robbery and shooting are no big deal, I had a homeless person bother me on campus back in the early 80's.
I got robbed at gunpoint in Wauwatosa 15 years ago. Bad things happened more than the past 5 years. And more than just in Milwaukee.
BLM
Thanks for sharing that incident. I am thankful that you feel safe and can look past such an event. Must have been in the "tough" part of Tosa because my old hood never had such activities.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 25, 2022, 11:00:44 AM
For those actually interested in following Marquette Safety Alerts, they have a dedicated webpage:
https://today.marquette.edu/?s=safety+alert
Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/marquettepd
And ways to sign up for automated alerts:
https://www.marquette.edu/mupd/safety-alerts.php
Though, I suspect the only poster that wants to post the information here, already follows those sources, and has an agenda.
sometimes it's nice to hear about issues BEFORE they hit the webpage...hope the students get a text alert so they may take extra precautions depending on where they are at the time.
rocket
It is funny that rocky would comment on how or why 4ever has access or follows the alerts from MU. He really misses the mark on a regular basis.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 26, 2022, 02:32:18 PM
sometimes it's nice to hear about issues BEFORE they hit the webpage...hope the students get a text alert so they may take extra precautions depending on where they are at the time.
They do.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 26, 2022, 02:32:18 PM
sometimes it's nice to hear about issues BEFORE they hit the webpage...hope the students get a text alert so they may take extra precautions depending on where they are at the time.
Holy crap you have no idea how anything works do you.
Quote from: Retire0 on March 26, 2022, 04:42:00 PM
Holy crap you have no idea how anything works do you.
Rocket saw Minority Report last night
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 26, 2022, 04:43:58 PM
Rocket saw Minority Report last night
You think rocket's going to watch a movie about minorities?
Quote from: Retire0 on March 26, 2022, 04:46:27 PM
You think rocket's going to watch a movie about minorities?
He was wildly disappointed by the subject matter
Quote from: Retire0 on March 26, 2022, 04:46:27 PM
You think rocket's going to watch a movie about minorities?
Thread winner
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 02:41:06 PM
rocket
It is funny that rocky would comment on how or why 4ever has access or follows the alerts from MU. He really misses the mark on a regular basis.
Think you miss the mark here. I linked to ways to see, or sign up for alerts. Sorry that bothered you, or maybe you just didn't understand it.
rocky
I understood. Not sure Doc is stalking the wires and you implied he was. Arby's!!
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 07:29:34 PM
rocky
I understood. Not sure Doc is stalking the wires and you implied he was. Arby's!!
The fragile one definitely is "stalking the wires" though.
0
Another post missing the mark.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 07:29:34 PM
I understood. Not sure Doc is stalking the wires and you implied he was. Arby's!!
So your contention, is that 4ever is doing a valuable service by posting to the 10s of people that will see it here, rather think folks should follow the official "wires" that Marquette recommends. Gotcha. Keep spreading the fear boys! And maybe 4ever should since up for a twitter account so that he can beat MUPD to the punch. That would show them!
rocky
I am simply saying Doc is not following or monitoring any MU crime sites and you implied he was. I was commenting on your post, not if any service was being provided with updates on a site with 20 regular followers, on a busy day.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 08:02:06 PM
I am simply saying Doc is not following or monitoring any MU crime sites and you implied he was. I was commenting on your post, not if any service was being provided with updates on a site with 20 regular followers, on a busy day.
So you completely ignored my links and didn't see that Marquette posted the exact same information at the same time.
https://today.marquette.edu/alert/safety-alert-march-26-2022-12-p-m/
Gotcha. Well, I guess it's impossible to hit the mark in your book!
rocky
Yes, I saw your links and your commentary. I am not on any Marquette security links because I am not a student, parent of a student or employed by MU.
By the way, you always hit my mark. I have never been disappointed by your posts. You are one poster that always hit expectations.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 08:14:45 PM
Yes, I saw your links and your commentary. I am not on any Marquette security links because I am not a student, parent of a student or employed by MU.
So you don't care about the alerts, and just comment to support 4ever. Gotcha.
Can we get a "Missed the mark" button, similar to the "like" button on social media? Maybe a "Knows ball" one as well?
rocky
I am saying I am not on alerts and Doc is not sitting around to post alerts. Today, I received the alert from wisn today app before Doc shared it.
Seriously, can you say you were not trying to out Doc with your commentary. Extra points for honesty.
BLM
You would not be in the knows ball camp.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 08:30:41 PM
BLM
You would not be in the knows ball camp.
No doubt.
I want to know what posts to pay attention to so I can learn ball.
BLM
You are much more productive in the non ball threads and your posse loves your posts. Stick to the superbar or trading posts.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 08:30:00 PM
Seriously, can you say you were not trying to out Doc with your commentary. Extra points for honesty.
I was certainly outing doc on the part where I said: " I suspect the only poster that wants to post the information here, already follows those sources, and has an agenda". How could I be dishonest about that. It's the truth, and I typed it!
If that was your bone to pick, you could have been more of a "straight shooter" about it. Don't be so obtuse.
The rest of my post, about how to follow the alerts was not a dig at doc, but rather trying to help others get the information directly in case folks were interested and didn't want to follow every one of 4ever's post on scoop.
This is simple. I actually don't give a rats ass about the crime in Milwaukee. I'm usually at least a 1000 miles away. But for those that do, and don't have an agenda, I wanted to make sure they knew where to get the info. Apparently you're not in that camp, and that's your choice.
Goose is kinda feeling himself tonight I see. 😂😂😂
rocky
Appreciate the reply. My whole point, it is not my place to say why Doc is on the alerts, but he is not a kook monitoring MU alerts on his free time. He gets the alerts due to his dedication to MU and that is a fact. That said, I love his posts on this topic, and many others, piss the hell out of you and many other posters. That is my honest reply.
fluff
You are pretty active for being an introvert.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 08:49:15 PM
rocky
Appreciate the reply. My whole point, it is not my place to say why Doc is on the alerts, but he is not a kook monitoring MU alerts on his free time. He gets the alerts due to his dedication to MU and that is a fact. That said, I love his posts on this topic, and many others, piss the hell out of you and many other posters. That is my honest reply.
You think his posts pisses people off? Lol. You should probably turn up the reading comprehension a little.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 08:35:03 PM
BLM
You are much more productive in the non ball threads and your posse loves your posts. Stick to the superbar or trading posts.
I'll consider it.
fluff
Have you hit 100k posts yet?
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 09:03:05 PM
fluff
Have you hit 100k posts yet?
I have no idea. You seem obsessed with my posting frequency so maybe you should count them up.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 08:49:15 PM
piss the hell out of you and many other posters
You've definitely lost perspective here Goose. But enjoy the drinks and hoops tonight!
rocky
I have not lost perspective. I think you mocked 4ever and did it for your audience. I challenged you a year ago about mocking guys you do not like and it still goes on. I appreciate this site and the mods, but think you have lost perspective. Anyone that thinks like you is allowed complete freedom and others are mocked or banned.
Appreciate the sentiment on enjoying drinks and basketball, but we are in charge of the grandkids tonight.
fluff
I have you at 103,212 posts.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 09:25:47 PM
rocky
I have not lost perspective. I think you mocked 4ever and did it for your audience. I challenged you a year ago about mocking guys you do not like and it still goes on. I appreciate this site and the mods, but think you have lost perspective. Anyone that thinks like you is allowed complete freedom and others are mocked or banned.
Appreciate the sentiment on enjoying drinks and basketball, but we are in charge of the grandkids tonight.
Goose - what kind of Marquette swag you giving the grandkids?
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 09:25:47 PM
I have not lost perspective. I think you mocked 4ever and did it for your audience. I challenged you a year ago about mocking guys you do not like and it still goes on. I appreciate this site and the mods, but think you have lost perspective. Anyone that thinks like you is allowed complete freedom and others are mocked or banned.
Oh my.
Rico
I am waiting until Farley gives thumbs up on the program until I poison the grandkids.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 09:34:30 PM
Rico
I am waiting until Farley gives thumbs up on the program until I poison the grandkids.
That's probably a good choice. Don't want their lives ruined like Farley's
rocky
You can "oh my" all night, but in your posse who has been banned or mocked by you?
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 09:37:00 PM
rocky
You can "oh my" all night, but in your posse who has been banned or mocked by you?
You already forgot about congratulating me on my return from my ban? Sad.
I'd assume you consider me part of the "posse" since you referred to my "posse" earlier tonight.
103,213
fluff
The last two were two of your best. Stick to emoji's.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 09:37:00 PM
You can "oh my" all night, but in your posse who has been banned or mocked by you?
I think only spiral97 here is "in my posse". Hung out with him last weekend - but he's a 50% owner in the site. Clearly your understanding of the "scoop world" is misinformed.
I've PM'd you, but I don't have to answer to you. There's a team of 4 here that have to deal with all the crap you guys throw out there. We'd prefer you didn't. Really, and we try to stay impartial - unlike you. I called out 4ever for being a bad Marquette fan - and he was being a bad fan! I didn't ban him. I'm a huge MU fan too - there's no way I'd keep this place going otherwise. 4ever couldn't even root for his own team to win under the current coach. You take exception to that because of his history. But my facts don't care about your opinion.
rocky
I say it all the time, I seldom post on non "ball" threads and do it on purpose. I am 95% here to talk "ball" and love a place to discuss MU basketball. I will say I think your bias is real, but such is life. Appreciate the site and Arby's!!
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 10:14:58 PM
I am 95% here to talk "ball"
Stick to that. It's not a strong point of yours, but it's miles ahead of your other strengths.
rocky
If I thought you added ANY value aside from being a mod I would take your advice.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 10:39:48 PM
If I thought you added value aside from being a mod I would take your advice.
Well then, I'm glad you took all this time in this thread to explain that to me. It's quite an honor. I generally just ignore people I think are idiots, so that's very generous of you.
Seriously, appreciate you calling me out specifically, then admitting you don't care about campus crime, and then asking me to be honest with about 4ever, and foolishly questioning those who had been banned (the facts prove you wrong), and then telling me I'm biased (aren't all humans?), and then telling me my only value is banning people (?).
It's really refreshing to get that sort of twisted logic feedback from a guy like you.
Rocky
FYI
I am concerned about campus safety and have stated that numerous times. I also think you make biased decisions on here and also think you bring little value comments to the site. I have no problem with you sending me a PM and calling me a jackoff and you should accept similar criticism in a public thread.
For the record, I do not think you are a jackoff or an idiot, maybe a non contributor to a site you 50% own, but not a jackoff.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 11:20:21 PM
I am concerned about campus safety and have stated that numerous times. I also think you make biased decisions on here and also think you bring little value comments to the site. I have no problem with you sending me a PM and calling me a jackoff and you should accept similar criticism in a public thread.
For the record, I do not think you are a jackoff or an idiot, maybe a non contributor to a site you 50% own, but not a jackoff.
Oh my.
Quote from: Retire0 on March 26, 2022, 04:42:00 PM
Holy crap you have no idea how anything works do you.
Says the dude(I think) with a screen name retired zero? You guys seem to go out of your way to comment where none is needed. You're lucky the mods got rid of the political section cuz you guys would be getting roasted for all of your brilliant "thoughts" which have the peanut farmer breathing a sigh of relief
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 27, 2022, 12:45:21 AM
Says the dude(I think) with a screen name retired zero? You guys seem to go out of your way to comment where none is needed. You're lucky the mods got rid of the political section cuz you guys would be getting roasted for all of your brilliant "thoughts" which have the peanut farmer breathing a sigh of relief
7 of 10
Glad the air quotes are back. Spelled the name wrong of the individual you were quoting and then add a shot at a man that has done more for society in a day than most will in a life. Little too coherent for a higher score.
11:40 a.m., report of subject loitering in parking lot, officer checked the area, subjects gone on arrival, 500 block West Washington Street
1:18 p.m., barking dog complaint, unable to locate 500 block West Bluff Street
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 08:49:15 PM
He gets the alerts due to his dedication to MU and that is a fact.
So the fragile one is stalking the wires.
Quote from: Retire0 on March 27, 2022, 08:08:58 AM
So the fragile one is stalking the wires.
He's a big advocate of fear and control.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2022, 09:25:47 PM
rocky
I have not lost perspective. I think you mocked 4ever and did it for your audience. I challenged you a year ago about mocking guys you do not like and it still goes on. I appreciate this site and the mods, but think you have lost perspective. Anyone that thinks like you is allowed complete freedom and others are mocked or banned.
Appreciate the sentiment on enjoying drinks and basketball, but we are in charge of the grandkids tonight.
Not sure, I'd have admitted to not being drunk.
Just sayin'
Hards
If I were lit up, I would have zero problem saying I was lit up.
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2022, 10:31:54 AM
Hards
If I were lit up, I would have zero problem saying I was lit up.
Oh, I understand.
I wonder why you seem to think there is some sort of 'posse' that is a foil to your 'posse'. I assure you, we bicker with each other just as often as we do with you and your 'posse'.
But we do it here. We don't have an underboard. We don't carry water for each other.
Can you admit that 4ever says some stupid stuff around these parts? I have my doubts. I don't hesitate to disagree with anyone as long as I think I can back up my argument. Your 'posse' seems to have a strange sense of loyalty to one another's terrible ideas and are willing to ride a sinking ship to the bottom of the Atlantic. I will never understand this mindset.
Hards
My only issue, from the start, was Rocky was implying that 4ever was stalking MU police outlets and thought he was being clever. His implication is wrong and I wanted him to admit that.
As for my posse, of your posse, I normally speak for myself and I do not always agree with my crew, or them with me. That said, I will provide unsolicited support if I feel that personal jabs cross over the line.
6:04 p.m., subject arguing with a roommate and now the other subject refuses to exit the subject's car, officer spoke with both subjects, 300 block West Baraga Avenue
In Marquette, Mich., annual rapes per capita are nearly double the national average.
That's sure to drive down our alma mater's enrollment among those who think the school is in Michigan.
Meanwhile the 2 incidents that MUPD alerted having occurred around 12 noon yesterday were picked up and reported in today's edition of the Milwaukee Urinal Sentinel, hey?
Quote from: MU82 on March 27, 2022, 11:21:43 AM
In Marquette, Mich., annual rapes per capita are nearly double the national average.
That's sure to drive down our alma mater's enrollment among those who think the school is in Michigan.
OMG! Four years and then some, "I saw you on the Weather Channel today."
Ummh, that's not my university.....
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2022, 10:57:05 AM
Hards
My only issue, from the start, was Rocky was implying that 4ever was stalking MU police outlets and thought he was being clever. His implication is wrong and I wanted him to admit that.
As for my posse, of your posse, I normally speak for myself and I do not always agree with my crew, or them with me. That said, I will provide unsolicited support if I feel that personal jabs cross over the line.
But 4elder has been posting MU blotter crap for a solid month now. And frequently off topic in threads. It's strange behavior.
Hards
Not sure what that has to do on why Doc has that information. Actually, I was the first to post on the situation, when I posted about the guy who shot the cop and stole the squad car.
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2022, 12:33:16 PM
Actually, I was the first to post on the situation, when I posted about the guy who shot the cop and stole the squad car.
Actually, you weren't, Goose.
Doc Dribble was going on and on about this in threads before the one you posted, such as the Catholic Knights building thread from more than a month earlier.
He has continued to do so, both in threads he started on the subject and in random threads on this board, the Covid board and even several basketball threads. It has passed "Crean sucks" as his favorite area of discourse.
It seems very important to him that he push the fear narrative as often as possible, making the Marquette area out to be some kind of war zone.
Of course, you and I know that it's simply a city campus, subject to the same things that happen in cities with other college campuses from NY to LA to Miami to Houston to Chicago to Seattle to everywhere in between. Heck, two cops recently were killed at little Bridgewater College in Virginia. It sucks that there's violence anywhere, let alone near college campuses. Pretending that Marquette is somehow more of a dystopian hellscape than others is neither useful nor intellectually honest.
82 and others
I literally cannot believe anyone jumped into this idiotic discussion. I was thinking last night that I had to be in the top 1% of losers on scoop for wasting my time on Saturday night. Seeing others jump in makes me feel I am just in the 10% of losers on here. Thanks for jumping in, you provided me an ego charge and much appreciated.
So the same people who are providing us this great service of alerting us of all the crime in Milwaukee and around MU are the ones who don't want common sense gun laws. Even though these crimes are largely carried out with firearms. And they also don't want to release inmates for non violent, petty drug offenses, so our prisons are overflowing. But their solution is to incarcerate more people.
What's the solution?
Can't touch the fifth amendment, so bad people will continue to do bad things with these weapons. Can't create space in prisons because marijuana is scary. But need to lock up all these criminals.
What do we do?
Quote from: WithoutBias on March 27, 2022, 02:05:14 PM
So the same people who are providing us this great service of alerting us of all the crime in Milwaukee and around MU are the ones who don't want common sense gun laws. Even though these crimes are largely carried out with firearms. And they also don't want to release inmates for non violent, petty drug offenses, so our prisons are overflowing. But their solution is to incarcerate more people.
What's the solution?
Can't touch the fifth amendment, so bad people will continue to do bad things with these weapons. Can't create space in prisons because marijuana is scary. But need to lock up all these criminals.
What do we do?
seriously? the guns ain't doing anything but sitting there until some evil moron points it at someone and shoots it. you lefties will either not admit that we have bad people in this world or are too stupid to realize this. probably both. building and staffing prisons is a lot cheaper than re-arresting and re-arresting and re-...not to mention the grief and sorrow people are put thru with the trauma day after day after day. when are the real victims going to get some relief??
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 27, 2022, 02:29:28 PM
seriously? the guns ain't doing anything but sitting there until some evil moron points it at someone and shoots it. you lefties will either not admit that we have bad people in this world or are too stupid to realize this. probably both. building and staffing prisons is a lot cheaper than re-arresting and re-arresting and re-...not to mention the grief and sorrow people are put thru with the trauma day after day after day. when are the real victims going to get some relief??
Lol. In a response that quoted a post that literally said bad people do bad things with firearms, you cry that "lefties will not admit that we have bad people in this world."
One thing I know for certain from you. We most definitely have very stupid people in this world.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 27, 2022, 02:29:28 PM
seriously? the guns ain't doing anything but sitting there until some evil moron points it at someone and shoots it. you lefties will either not admit that we have bad people in this world or are too stupid to realize this. probably both. building and staffing prisons is a lot cheaper than re-arresting and re-arresting and re-...not to mention the grief and sorrow people are put thru with the trauma day after day after day. when are the real victims going to get some relief??
Of course there are bad people in the world. But the correlation between stronger gun laws and homicide rates is a strong one in the "western world." Spare me your crying about victims when there is a proven way to actually make less people victims.
Bad people do bad things, but it matters quite a bit if that bad person does bad things with a steak knife instead a TEC 9.
If you disagree, please let me know about that last time a child died after being hit with a stray knife.
Pakuni
I live in a village of several thousand people and I am in the minority by not owning a firearm. How can this many gun owners go a 100 years without having a firearm related murder?
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2022, 02:43:06 PM
Pakuni
I live in a village of several thousand people and I am in the minority by not owning a firearm. How can this many gun owners go a 100 years without having a firearm related murder?
Read his post more carefully and see where you made your error in logic.
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2022, 02:43:06 PM
Pakuni
I live in a village of several thousand people and I am in the minority by not owning a firearm. How can this many gun owners go a 100 years without having a firearm related murder?
Not sure what this has to do with what I wrote, but I'd need to know what town this is before I offer anything approaching an intelligent answer.
The most likely answer is luck.
Pakuni
I was offering a general statement, not directed at your steak knife post. I live in eastern Waukesha county and there has been one murder in village history, which was a grandson that robbed and beat his grandmother to death. I think there might be more than luck involved, but you are free to feel that is the case.
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2022, 02:53:13 PM
Pakuni
I was offering a general statement, not directed at your steak knife post. I live in eastern Waukesha county and there has been one murder in village history, which was a grandson that robbed and beat his grandmother to death. I think there might be more than luck involved, but you are free to feel that is the case.
Well then, educate me on what makes your burg unique and how that special sauce can be exported to the rest of America.
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2022, 02:53:13 PM
Pakuni
I was offering a general statement, not directed at your steak knife post. I live in eastern Waukesha county and there has been one murder in village history, which was a grandson that robbed and beat his grandmother to death. I think there might be more than luck involved, but you are free to feel that is the case.
So when you called out Pakuni in the post right above yours, you weren't actually referring to his post? 🤡🤡🤡
Pakuni
I am guessing I live in a community of law abiding citizens. I do not think my burg is unique at all, rather the small percentage of bad people that shoot people are the outlier faction of our country.
Fluff
Yes, I made a mistake and am a big fxxkin clown. I do not even think big fxxkin clown is strong enough description for the mistake I made.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 27, 2022, 02:29:28 PM
seriously? the guns ain't doing anything but sitting there until some evil moron points it at someone and shoots it. you lefties will either not admit that we have bad people in this world or are too stupid to realize this. probably both. building and staffing prisons is a lot cheaper than re-arresting and re-arresting and re-...not to mention the grief and sorrow people are put thru with the trauma day after day after day. when are the real victims going to get some relief??
8 of 10
The ellipses returning are a welcome sight. Not sure what you were saying overall, so the gibberish was outstanding. Defending guns and criticizing lefties was good work.
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2022, 03:01:45 PM
Pakuni
I am guessing I live in a community of law abiding citizens. I do not think my burg is unique at all, rather the small percentage of bad people that shoot people are the outlier faction of our country.
This isn't an answer. We all live in communities of largely law-abiding citizens, including communities ravaged by gun violence.
But that's never stopped a guy who learned his wife was leaving him from shooting her dead before killing himself. Or a mentally ill teenager from getting a hold of a gun and shooting someone who bullied him. Or someone gets deep into drugs and decides they need to rob the 7-11 to pay for their habit and, whoops, the clerk got shot.
Pakuni
It is the best answer I have on why we do not have firearm murders in my burg. 100 plus years is a long time to simply have good luck, but you may be right. Also, we agree that almost every community is filled with law abiding folks.
Goose
I grew up in a literal Burg with less than 5,000 people, in one of the most conservative counties in the country.
There has been 4 gun-related deaths since 2000, the year I entered high school. Two accidental, two murders.
Guess those four people just didn't have the same luck.
Quote from: Retire0 on March 27, 2022, 04:40:19 PM
Goose
I grew up in a literal Burg with less than 5,000 people, in one of the most conservative counties in the country.
There has been 4 gun-related deaths since 2000, the year I entered high school. Two accidental, two murders.
Guess those four people just didn't have the same luck.
Johnsburg is an armpit, though.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 27, 2022, 04:43:52 PM
Johnsburg is an armpit, though.
Top 25% of average household income is far from an armpit.
0
What is the reason for the murders?
"one of the most conservative counties in the country"
in illinois?? i highly highly doubt that...in the state, maybe, but that's like saying leah thomas is one of the top "women" swimmers in the country
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 27, 2022, 05:27:55 PM
"one of the most conservative counties in the country"
in illinois?? i highly highly doubt that...in the state, maybe, but that's like saying leah thomas is one of the top "women" swimmers in the country
Not surprising you're that kind of POS.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 27, 2022, 05:27:55 PM
"one of the most conservative counties in the country"
in illinois?? i highly highly doubt that...in the state, maybe, but that's like saying leah thomas is one of the top "women" swimmers in the country
6 of 10
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 27, 2022, 05:27:55 PM
"one of the most conservative counties in the country"
in illinois?? i highly highly doubt that...in the state, maybe, but that's like saying leah thomas is one of the top "women" swimmers in the country
I shouldn't be surprised by your bigoted stance here. Especially considering you wouldn't allow an employee to show solidarity with her friend who was fighting cancer.
Sad.
Quote from: Retire0 on March 27, 2022, 05:09:13 PM
Top 25% of average household income is far from an armpit.
Whatever helps you sleep at night. It's still johnsburg.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 27, 2022, 05:27:55 PM
"one of the most conservative counties in the country"
in illinois?? i highly highly doubt that...in the state, maybe, but that's like saying leah thomas is one of the top "women" swimmers in the country
Did she swim against Lia Thomas? Hope to get my answer before the lock
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 27, 2022, 05:58:52 PM
Whatever helps you sleep at night. It's still johnsburg.
Love this for Ziggy and rocket.
Sweet fancy Moses.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but can we talk about Marquette crime reports instead?
Discontinuing the Block Parties was a crime.
Can we at least remove the bigoted comment?
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 27, 2022, 10:57:22 PM
Can we at least remove the bigoted comment?
screw you jackwagon!! and all of your sudden virtue signaling brethren! there is no bigotry here whatsoever! lea or whatever his/her name is stealing righteous opportunity from real women. if he wants to compete, tell them to form their own league and have at it, but leave all these hard working women alone to pursue the goals they've been working hard at for all of their lives
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 28, 2022, 05:48:47 AM
screw you jackwagon!! and all of your sudden virtue signaling brethren! there is no bigotry here whatsoever! lea or whatever his/her name is stealing righteous opportunity from real women. if he wants to compete, tell them to form their own league and have at it, but leave all these hard working women alone to pursue the goals they've been working hard at for all of their lives
Lol. Yeah, not bigoted at all.
Jesus.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 28, 2022, 05:48:47 AM
screw you jackwagon!! and all of your sudden virtue signaling brethren! there is no bigotry here whatsoever! lea or whatever his/her name is stealing righteous opportunity from real women. if he wants to compete, tell them to form their own league and have at it, but leave all these hard working women alone to pursue the goals they've been working hard at for all of their lives
"I'm not a bigot!"
<Proceeds to act like a bigot.>
The anti-trans stuff on the right is just so disgusting. And people actually believe they aren't bigots by parroting it?
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 28, 2022, 05:48:47 AM
screw you jackwagon!! and all of your sudden virtue signaling brethren! there is no bigotry here whatsoever! lea or whatever his/her name is stealing righteous opportunity from real women. if he wants to compete, tell them to form their own league and have at it, but leave all these hard working women alone to pursue the goals they've been working hard at for all of their lives
9 of 10
Name calling and proclaiming virtue signaling is great work. No ellipses or air quotes means I can't give you a 10. Glad to see you back at work showing off that valuable Marquette education.
Maybe use all the terrific, virtuous guns to kill all the evil trans people.
Get rid of those "abominations,"just as Jesus would want, have fun shootin' ... and, as a bonus, make Putin happy, too.
Win-win-win!
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 28, 2022, 05:48:47 AM
screw you jackwagon!! and all of your sudden virtue signaling brethren! there is no bigotry here whatsoever! lea or whatever his/her name is stealing righteous opportunity from real women. if he wants to compete, tell them to form their own league and have at it, but leave all these hard working women alone to pursue the goals they've been working hard at for all of their lives
What a sucker
1962: I'm not bigoted, I just care about the sanctity of the white race.
1992: I'm not bigoted, I just care about the sanctity of marriage.
2022: I'm not bigoted, I just care about the sanctity of women's sports.
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2022, 01:02:57 PM
82 and others
I literally cannot believe anyone jumped into this idiotic discussion. I was thinking last night that I had to be in the top 1% of losers on scoop for wasting my time on Saturday night. Seeing others jump in makes me feel I am just in the 10% of losers on here. Thanks for jumping in, you provided me an ego charge and much appreciated.
after reading this entire thread this morning, don't sell yourself short, you are top 1% in this thread
This is the good stuff. Keep it coming folks.
Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2022, 02:43:06 PM
Pakuni
I live in a village of several thousand people and I am in the minority by not owning a firearm. How can this many gun owners go a 100 years without having a firearm related murder?
You may have been lucky enough to avoid murders but you still have gun crime.
Titan
I do believe that the Mobil station had an armed robbery over the past several years, but nothing else comes to mind. If you know more gun crime in my area, feel free to share it.
1:01 a.m., officers located an intoxicated subject on sidewalk, officers assisted subject to residence, South Third Street near Rock Street
2:53 p.m., be-on-the-lookout issued for erratic driver, made contact with driver, warned, Coles Drive near McClellan Avenue
Quote from: Pakuni on March 28, 2022, 10:05:04 AM
1:01 a.m., officers located an intoxicated subject on sidewalk, officers assisted subject to residence, South Third Street near Rock Street
2:53 p.m., be-on-the-lookout issued for erratic driver, made contact with driver, warned, Coles Drive near McClellan Avenue
The Marquette MI police log is pretty amusing, and indicative of the stupid stuff police have to deal with regularly:
≤ 1:17 a.m., report of loud vehicle running in the parking lot, contact was made with owner, 1900 block Freedom Drive
≤ 2:22 p.m., caller reported two subjects were drowning, upon arrival officers could see two subjects in the water with diving suits going on the ice and back in water, no one in distress, 1000 block South Lake Street
≤ 5:20 a.m., report of loud music, not loud, tenant advised of complaint and warned, 500 block Union Street
≤ 7:09 a.m., open door to business found by citizen, employees were on scene, all OK, 100 block West Washington Street
Mar 19
≤ 8:40 p.m., officer flagged down for an injured deer, when officer attempted to check on the deer, it jumped up and ran away, Division Street near South McClellan Avenue
Not removing the bigotry is tacitly agreeing that it is acceptable to post such things.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 28, 2022, 10:13:18 AM
≤ 8:40 p.m., officer flagged down for an injured deer, when officer attempted to check on the deer, it jumped up and ran away, Division Street near South McClellan Avenue
Marquette, MI can't be considered safe until the prankster delinquent deer stop terrorizing motorists and taunting police. Imagine if your loved one can't be assisted by law enforcement cause they are encumbered by another deer faking an injury for jokes
I support trans people's rights to do whatever they want. I have several coworkers with kids (one in childhood, one in adulthood) that transitioned. Do what makes you feel happy or good. There is no denying that trans people have a lot of depression issues and other mental health issue (before and after making the change.)
That said the Lia Thomas case is a joke and an insult to women's sports. The dude competed on the mens team for 3 years, then took a redshirt year to start the process, then finished his last year of eligibility on the woman's team.
This isn't someone that used puberty blockers or other hormone treatments. This is a grown ass man that took a year to go from a men's swimmer to a women's swimmer. He already had man's frame, musculature, and testosterone. I get that his testosterone dropped during the red shirt year. But the dude was already a grown dude. And dudes are faster swimmers than women, especially at age 24. Qualfiying times for boys are faster than girls even at the 9-10 year old level, much less competing in college. That's a fact.
This is the equivalent of Greg Elliot taking a year off and playing for the MU women's team. (Yes, Elliot RS his 2nd year with hand surgery. He'd have to apply for a waiver to play as Gregette. I think, eligibility and class is whacked with the free Covid year)
Safety Update: March 28, 2022
Earlier this morning, Marquette University Police Department officers on patrol encountered an 18-year-old, non-Marquette-affiliated suspect attempting to break into a vehicle. The suspect fled on foot and the officers pursued. Near 18th Street and W. Highland Avenue, the suspect drew his gun and discharged it, striking himself in the leg. No MUPD weapons were discharged. The suspect was transported to the hospital with a non-life-threatening injury. The suspect's weapon was recovered at the scene, and the Milwaukee Police Department will conduct a full investigation. Marquette University is grateful for the responsiveness and professionalism displayed by our MUPD officers.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 28, 2022, 11:10:54 AM
I support trans people's rights to do whatever they want. I have several coworkers with kids (one in childhood, one in adulthood) that transitioned. Do what makes you feel happy or good. There is no denying that trans people have a lot of depression issues and other mental health issue (before and after making the change.)
That said the Lia Thomas case is a joke and an insult to women's sports. The dude competed on the mens team for 3 years, then took a redshirt year to start the process, then finished his last year of eligibility on the woman's team.
This isn't someone that used puberty blockers or other hormone treatments. This is a grown ass man that took a year to go from a men's swimmer to a women's swimmer. He already had man's frame, musculature, and testosterone. I get that his testosterone dropped during the red shirt year. But the dude was already a grown dude. And dudes are faster swimmers than women, especially at age 24. Qualfiying times for boys are faster than girls even at the 9-10 year old level, much less competing in college. That's a fact.
This is the equivalent of Greg Elliot taking a year off and playing for the MU women's team. (Yes, Elliot RS his 2nd year with hand surgery. He'd have to apply for a waiver to play as Gregette. I think, eligibility and class is whacked with the free Covid year)
So the new "I'm not a racist I work with black people!" is "I'm not a bigot my friends have trans children!"
Also love that in one breath people should do what they want to do and be happy, and then the next sentence "this trans competing as a woman is a joke!"
Good stuff.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 28, 2022, 11:13:28 AM
Safety Update: March 28, 2022
Earlier this morning, Marquette University Police Department officers on patrol encountered an 18-year-old, non-Marquette-affiliated suspect attempting to break into a vehicle. The suspect fled on foot and the officers pursued. Near 18th Street and W. Highland Avenue, the suspect drew his gun and discharged it, striking himself in the leg. No MUPD weapons were discharged. The suspect was transported to the hospital with a non-life-threatening injury. The suspect's weapon was recovered at the scene, and the Milwaukee Police Department will conduct a full investigation. Marquette University is grateful for the responsiveness and professionalism displayed by our MUPD officers.
Thank god for 5th amendment rights. Have you shared any updates that haven't involved firearms?
Happy to share them, if I'm aware of them, hey?
Quote from: WithoutBias on March 28, 2022, 11:16:46 AM
So the new "I'm not a racist I work with black people!" is "I'm not a bigot my friends have trans children!"
Also love that in one breath people should do what they want to do and be happy, and then the next sentence "this trans competing as a woman is a joke!"
Good stuff.
No, dumbass. I referenced my coworkers because I've had long talks with them about their kids and the difficulties they experienced. Both about their kids and as parents. It's called empathy. The conversations also changed my mind about transsexuals.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 28, 2022, 11:10:54 AM
I support trans people's rights to do whatever they want. I have several coworkers with kids (one in childhood, one in adulthood) that transitioned. Do what makes you feel happy or good. There is no denying that trans people have a lot of depression issues and other mental health issue (before and after making the change.)
That said the Lia Thomas case is a joke and an insult to women's sports. The dude competed on the mens team for 3 years, then took a redshirt year to start the process, then finished his last year of eligibility on the woman's team.
This isn't someone that used puberty blockers or other hormone treatments. This is a grown ass man that took a year to go from a men's swimmer to a women's swimmer. He already had man's frame, musculature, and testosterone. I get that his testosterone dropped during the red shirt year. But the dude was already a grown dude. And dudes are faster swimmers than women, especially at age 24. Qualfiying times for boys are faster than girls even at the 9-10 year old level, much less competing in college. That's a fact.
This is the equivalent of Greg Elliot taking a year off and playing for the MU women's team. (Yes, Elliot RS his 2nd year with hand surgery. He'd have to apply for a waiver to play as Gregette. I think, eligibility and class is whacked with the free Covid year)
She met the NCAA requirements and her times slowed significantly.
And it seemed to me that a lot of her competitors didn't care or were supportive. It's the politicians who are turning her into a bogeyman.
Quote from: Goose on March 28, 2022, 09:54:13 AM
Titan
I do believe that the Mobil station had an armed robbery over the past several years, but nothing else comes to mind. If you know more gun crime in my area, feel free to share it.
A quick google search found something only a month ago.
https://www.fox6now.com/news/waukesha-shooting-diaz-palma-rodriguez
Office of the President | Marquette University
Dear Marquette community,
Like you, I have been shaken by the crimes committed on and near our campus during the past weeks. Several involved our students, and we are providing wraparound support services to help them heal from their trauma and offering our prayers and support for all victims of senseless crimes across our city and country. At the same time, we are committed to taking swift action to help prevent future incidents.
As a father and as a university president, I want to assure you that I am taking this matter extremely seriously. There is no greater priority than the safety of our campus community. The President's Task Force on Community Safety – which includes students, parents, community members, faculty and staff – meets this afternoon and will provide actionable, near-term recommendations that Marquette University will implement to improve safety and security on our campus. We will accelerate implementation of recommendations in key areas such as institutional safety and resources to effect immediate change. More will be shared about these near-term actions in the coming days. If you have questions about the Safety Task Force or want to share an idea, please contact us.
Crime is a complicated issue with many underlying causes and few easy solutions. The university will continue to work closely with local law enforcement and city leaders for the betterment of our campus community, our neighborhood and our city.
I want to close by expressing my support and gratitude for our Marquette University Police Department and the responsiveness and care they display for our campus community every day. At a time when police departments across the country are short-staffed, we see you, we appreciate you and we thank you for your public service.
Best,
Dr. Michael R. Lovell
President
Ziggy
I also know of a family that has a transitioning child (teenager) and understand some of the difficulties they are experiencing in this process. To be honest, I never gave the topic a great deal of thought prior to learning of my friend's situation, and I try to give to my support whenever I can. Unlike others, I respect your post and thanks for sharing it.
Titan
That is not even close to where I live. I am sorry for asking for additional info, I thought you may live near or know the area.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 28, 2022, 11:28:41 AM
Office of the President | Marquette University
Dear Marquette community,
Like you, I have been shaken by the crimes committed on and near our campus during the past weeks. Several involved our students, and we are providing wraparound support services to help them heal from their trauma and offering our prayers and support for all victims of senseless crimes across our city and country. At the same time, we are committed to taking swift action to help prevent future incidents.
As a father and as a university president, I want to assure you that I am taking this matter extremely seriously. There is no greater priority than the safety of our campus community. The President's Task Force on Community Safety – which includes students, parents, community members, faculty and staff – meets this afternoon and will provide actionable, near-term recommendations that Marquette University will implement to improve safety and security on our campus. We will accelerate implementation of recommendations in key areas such as institutional safety and resources to effect immediate change. More will be shared about these near-term actions in the coming days. If you have questions about the Safety Task Force or want to share an idea, please contact us.
Crime is a complicated issue with many underlying causes and few easy solutions. The university will continue to work closely with local law enforcement and city leaders for the betterment of our campus community, our neighborhood and our city.
I want to close by expressing my support and gratitude for our Marquette University Police Department and the responsiveness and care they display for our campus community every day. At a time when police departments across the country are short-staffed, we see you, we appreciate you and we thank you for your public service.
Best,
Dr. Michael R. Lovell
President
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Quote from: Goose on March 28, 2022, 11:29:33 AM
Titan
That is not even close to where I live. I am sorry for asking for additional info, I thought you may live near or know the area.
Yeah I have no idea where you live in Waukesha County. I assumed you would be comparing Waukesha to Milwaukee. I now realize you are likely trying to compare the crime in some small corner of Waukesha County to downtown Milwaukee.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 28, 2022, 11:10:54 AM
That said the Lia Thomas case is a joke and an insult to women's sports. The dude competed on the mens team for 3 years, then took a redshirt year to start the process, then finished his last year of eligibility on the woman's team.
This isn't someone that used puberty blockers or other hormone treatments. This is a grown ass man that took a year to go from a men's swimmer to a women's swimmer
There's an entirely fair and reasonable debate to be had about when and under what circumstances a trans athlete should be able to compete in his or her (and let's face it, we're only talking about her) chosen gender group.
But having that discussion requires an honest recitation of the facts. And you've failed at that here.
Contrary to what you claim here, Lia Thomas began hormone treatment in 2019. She had been undergoing that treatment for more than two years before ever competing in a women's race.
Contrary to what you claim here, she didn't take "a redshirt year to start the process." The process was already ongoing when she swam for the men's team in 2019-2020. And she didn't swim in 2020-21 because the season was canceled due to COVID, not because of some "redshirt year" for the process.
Contrary to what you claim here, Lia Thomas is not a "grown ass man." She lost significant muscle mass as a result of the hormone treatment and is literally shorter today than she was two years ago, which is reflected in her times being significantly slower than two years ago.
And, while you claim it only indirectly here, Lia Thomas ain't winning because her former physique makes her unfairly dominant. In reality, she's winning because the fields she's competing against are unusually weak. She's one of the slowest NCAA champions in recent memory.
Newsweek analysed the last 10 seasons' fastest times in the women's 500-yard freestyle, as well as the fastest times in the NCAA championship women's 500-yard freestyle for the last decade, using data from SwimCloud.
The data suggests that while Thomas was the fastest swimmer in that category this season, she actually would have been the fastest swimmer in only one of the last 10 seasons. In most of those previous years, her fastest time would only have got her to second at the most, and in one year she would have come as low as 12th.https://www.newsweek.com/lia-thomas-winning-not-swimming-that-fast-data-transgender-1691874
In the preliminaries for the 200 freestyle, Thomas finished second. In the final for the 200 freestyle, Thomas placed fifth with a time of 1:43.50. In the preliminaries for the 100 freestyle, Thomas finished tenth. In the finals for the 100 freestyle, Thomas placed eighth out of eight competitors in 48.18 seconds, finishing last.https://www.outsports.com/2022/3/17/22982977/lia-thomas-iszac-henig-transgender-swimmer-ncaa-championships-penn
In reality, scientists have come up with standards by which trans athletes can compete at a fair level. I'm far from an expert, but I suggest that's where the debate should focus. But it's hard to have a legitimate discussion of what's fair with people who can't get their facts straight.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 28, 2022, 11:40:38 AM
In reality, scientists have come up with standards by which trans athletes can compete at a fair level. I'm far from an expert, but I suggest that's where the debate should focus. But it's hard to have a legitimate discussion of what's fair with people who can't don't want to get their facts straight.
FIFY.
Ziggy
I was just thinking about all of the tough guys on here that handled all of the crime on campus back in their day. I am quite certain that is not a letter MU wants to have to send out to students or parents and did so because it was needed.
Quote from: Clarissa on March 28, 2022, 11:24:03 AM
She met the NCAA requirements and her times slowed significantly.
And it seemed to me that a lot of her competitors didn't care or were supportive. It's the politicians who are turning her into a bogeyman.
Correct. The only people that really care are the people who don't have a horse in the race. Katie Ledecky's times in the same event blow Lia's out of the water.
Quote from: Goose on March 28, 2022, 11:50:38 AM
Ziggy
I was just thinking about all of the tough guys on here that handled all of the crime on campus back in their day. I am quite certain that is not a letter MU wants to have to send out to students or parents and did so because it was needed.
I'm actually pretty sure it is a combination of both crime being up recently but also the nature of how we communicate these days. I doubt Marquette would have even thought about sending an actual letter to my parents about crime when I was on campus regardless of how much crime there was.
Quote from: Clarissa on March 28, 2022, 11:24:03 AM
She met the NCAA requirements and her times slowed significantly.
And it seemed to me that a lot of her competitors didn't care or were supportive. It's the politicians who are turning her into a bogeyman.
In the words of IWB: my contact(at the ncaa) didn't cite logic, she cited the NCAA handbook.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 28, 2022, 11:10:54 AM
I support trans people's rights to do whatever they want. I have several coworkers with kids (one in childhood, one in adulthood) that transitioned. Do what makes you feel happy or good. There is no denying that trans people have a lot of depression issues and other mental health issue (before and after making the change.)
If you are supportive of trans people, why do you insist on referring to Lia Thomas as he? I'm assuming someone as supportive as yourself would recognize that misgendering someone is considered an insult to a trans person.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 28, 2022, 11:52:27 AM
Correct. The only people that really care are the people who don't have a horse in the race. Katie Ledecky's times in the same event blow Lia's out of the water.
As the parent of 2 swimmers (1 boy, one girl), I have a horse in the race.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 28, 2022, 12:09:10 PM
As the parent of 2 swimmers (1 boy, one girl), I have a horse in the race.
Okay, so are you honestly concerned about the massive influx of transgender female swimmers?
Because there isn't one.
If your son transitions should they be allowed to compete?
I do applaud your support for trans people, even if it is currently somewhat lukewarm. I'll take the baby steps seven days a week and twice on Sunday.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 28, 2022, 12:46:46 PM
Okay, so are you honestly concerned about the massive influx of transgender female swimmers?
Because there isn't one.
If your son transitions should they be allowed to compete?
I do applaud your support for trans people, even if it is currently somewhat lukewarm. I'll take the baby steps seven days a week and twice on Sunday.
Goal ----->>> posts.
Besides what I shared, you don't know a damn thing about my thoughts on a lot of things. For you, and the rest of the mopes, it's just conservative dumb der hur hur.
I'm surprised someone so open minded as you claim yourself to be isn't more tolerant and makes so many assumptions.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 28, 2022, 12:08:46 PM
If you are supportive of trans people, why do you insist on referring to Lia Thomas as he? I'm assuming someone as supportive as yourself would recognize that misgendering someone is considered an insult to a trans person.
Clarity. Her Wikipedia page uses she/her while discussing his time on the men's team. That's confusing for some. Similar to the ESPN article about the non-binary WNBA player that used all 3 pronouns interchangeably. It made no sense.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 28, 2022, 01:01:50 PM
Goal ----->>> posts.
Besides what I shared, you don't know a damn thing about my thoughts on a lot of things. For you, and the rest of the mopes, it's just conservative dumb der hur hur.
I'm surprised someone so open minded as you claim yourself to be isn't more tolerant and makes so many assumptions.
Lol.
When you lie about the situation and mock the gender of the person, it's hard to not make assumptions about you.
I would have bet a lot of money that there would be crickets in regard to the letter sent out by Lovell and shared by 4ever.
Quote from: WithoutBias on March 28, 2022, 01:07:37 PM
Lol.
When you lie about the situation and mock the gender of the person, it's hard to not make assumptions about you.
We all know that you are an asshöle, so no one had to make assumptions about you.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 28, 2022, 01:14:32 PM
We all know that you are an asshöle, so no one had to make assumptions about you.
At least I'll admit it instead of being this all inclusive person while intentionally using the wrong gender while referring to a transgender female.
Quote from: Goose on March 28, 2022, 01:08:42 PM
I would have bet a lot of money that there would be crickets in regard to the letter sent out by Lovell and shared by 4ever.
I think it's because too stunned by the news that crime occurs in an inner city.
Quote from: Goose on March 28, 2022, 01:08:42 PM
I would have bet a lot of money that there would be crickets in regard to the letter sent out by Lovell and shared by 4ever.
Nah, I just made up the letter and lifted a few catch phases from the Fox News website, hey?
Quote from: Goose on March 28, 2022, 01:08:42 PM
I would have bet a lot of money that there would be crickets in regard to the letter sent out by Lovell and shared by 4ever.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63262.msg1438009#msg1438009
Quote from: Clarissa on March 28, 2022, 01:27:36 PM
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63262.msg1438009#msg1438009
You'd need an army of file clerks to keep up with your 105k posts. I apologize on behalf of Goose for missing this one.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 28, 2022, 01:43:25 PM
You'd need an army of file clerks to keep up with your 105k posts. I apologize on behalf of Goose for missing this one.
Wasn't really hard to simply scroll up a page, but sure....
Ziggy
I saw his post but was not sure if was meant for this thread, transfer portal, Star Wars, Covid economy or running thread. He has a lot of balls in the air and wanted to make sure not to address incorrectly.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 28, 2022, 01:06:51 PM
Clarity. Her Wikipedia page uses she/her while discussing his time on the men's team. That's confusing for some. Similar to the ESPN article about the non-binary WNBA player that used all 3 pronouns interchangeably. It made no sense.
Okay let me help. The proper way to provide that clarity is to just use she/her. She is currently a she. Even is she was previously a he, you just use the current pronouns, even when discussing past performance. Even if your intent is clarity, the impact you are having is insult.
You are also assuming that she wasn't a she before. Her sex was male, she may have been presenting as male but she may have considered herself female at the time.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 28, 2022, 01:01:50 PM
Goal ----->>> posts.
Besides what I shared, you don't know a damn thing about my thoughts on a lot of things. For you, and the rest of the mopes, it's just conservative dumb der hur hur.
I'm surprised someone so open minded as you claim yourself to be isn't more tolerant and makes so many assumptions.
I've shifted nothing, I'm just looking for clarification. I'm genuinely interested in the answers to the questions.
For the record, I don't think all conservatives are 'dumb hur hur'. I do like to understand their thought process, and unfortunately a lot of the time, there isn't one.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 28, 2022, 01:51:02 PM
Okay let me help. The proper way to provide that clarity is to just use she/her. She is currently a she. Even is she was previously a he, you just use the current pronouns, even when discussing past performance. Even if your intent is clarity, the impact you are having is insult.
You are also assuming that she wasn't a she before. Her sex was male, she may have been presenting as male but she may have considered herself female at the time.
You use Latinx too, amirite?
Quote from: Goose on March 28, 2022, 01:50:28 PM
Ziggy
I saw his post but was not sure if was meant for this thread, transfer portal, Star Wars, Covid economy or running thread. He has a lot of balls in the air and wanted to make sure not to address incorrectly.
Don't be a dishonest troll.
fluff
I can assure you that I saw your post. I pretty much dismissed it because I thought it was the typical blow off response on this topic.
Quote from: Goose on March 28, 2022, 02:25:45 PM
fluff
I can assure you that I saw your post. I pretty much dismissed it because I thought it was the typical blow off response on this topic.
Oh.
fluff
My cricket's comment was more in seeing responses directly related to the letter. I think we all have an idea what caused the letter to be written and agree that in 1983 Fr. Raynor probably would not have been sending out a letter on campus crime. I thought, but did not expect, there could be discussion on the actual letter and the situation on campus, not that Doc is posting updates or my challenging rocky on why singled out Doc. I do believe the letter is worthy of an intelligent conversation.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 28, 2022, 01:55:58 PM
You use Latinx too, amirite?
So Mr. "I'm So Inclusive" himself has an opportunity to learn, better himself, and be more aware and respectful, but instead just mocks the person who's willing to help you become more educated on the subject?
But yeah, I'm just an pretty boy.
You're a phucking joke.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 28, 2022, 01:51:02 PM
Okay let me help. The proper way to provide that clarity is to just use she/her. She is currently a she. Even is she was previously a he, you just use the current pronouns, even when discussing past performance. Even if your intent is clarity, the impact you are having is insult.
I think that was his intent?
Quote from: Goose on March 28, 2022, 02:49:53 PM
fluff
My cricket's comment was more in seeing responses directly related to the letter. I think we all have an idea what caused the letter to be written and agree that in 1983 Fr. Raynor probably would not have been sending out a letter on campus crime. I thought, but did not expect, there could be discussion on the actual letter and the situation on campus, not that Doc is posting updates or my challenging rocky on why singled out Doc. I do believe the letter is worthy of an intelligent conversation.
Yeah. They sent it out because there are recent increases in crime on and near campus. I don't think anyone has disputed that.
I think it's interesting that the situation with Lia has become one about competitive balance. Interesting.
How do we determine when a competitor is too fast or too strong or too tall and that attribute becomes unfair for the competition?
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 28, 2022, 01:55:58 PM
You use Latinx too, amirite?
I do, unless someone stells me they prefer something else. As I've explained to you before latinx isn't about being inclusive to latino/a/x people. It's about being inclusive to LGBTQ people within those communities
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 28, 2022, 04:52:11 PM
I think it's interesting that the situation with Lia has become one about competitive balance. Interesting.
How do we determine when a competitor is too fast or too strong or too tall and that attribute becomes unfair for the competition?
Nm
Quote from: Clarissa on March 28, 2022, 03:47:36 PM
Yeah. They sent it out because there are recent increases in crime on and near campus. I don't think anyone has disputed that.
Seriously? There have been an awful lot of posts mocking 4ever for even suggesting such a thing. Lot's of stories about how rough and hardscrabble the campus was in (fill in the year), too. And dismissive ones (It's an urban campus, urban areas always have crime problems). Nobody here (other than the President of the university and 4ever) has seemed concern at all.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 28, 2022, 10:25:39 PM
Seriously? There have been an awful lot of posts mocking 4ever for even suggesting such a thing. Lot's of stories about how rough and hardscrabble the campus was in (fill in the year), too. And dismissive ones (It's an urban campus, urban areas always have crime problems). Nobody here (other than the President of the university and 4ever) has seemed concern at all.
I said "recent" increase. As in over the course of the semester or year. Crime has been a factor at Marquette through much of its history and I don't believe what the University is facing now is significantly different that what it faced when I was in school. But 4ever acts like it's massively unprecedented somehow.
I consider the use of guns in a crime as a significant threat to human life. If you've noticed, these crimes are being committed during daylight hours. How bold is that? Clearly those intent on robbery and/or bodily harm have no respect for human life. Should any of you, who continue to be in denial or want to minimize the significance of these events, were to be victimized, I'm certain you'd brown out your tidy whitey Jockeys quicker than cockroaches running in the kitchen when the lights are turned on.
The University is not located in Marquette, MI or De Pere. When significant bodily injury or worse is a result of these crimes, MU will be in big trouble. At a time when private schools are in competition for tuition dollars, can Marquette be any more than an "also ran," hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 29, 2022, 06:16:47 AM
I consider the use of guns in a crime as a significant threat to human life. If you've noticed, these crimes are being committed during daylight hours. How bold is that? Clearly those intent on robbery and/or bodily harm have no respect for human life. Should any of you, who continue to be in denial or want to minimize the significance of these events, were to be victimized, I'm certain you'd brown out your tidy whitey Jockeys quicker than cockroaches running in the kitchen when the lights are turned on.
The University is not located in Marquette, MI or De Pere. When significant bodily injury or worse is a result of these crimes, MU will be in big trouble. At a time when private schools are in competition for tuition dollars, can Marquette be any more than an "also ran," hey?
So what is your solution to the problem?
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 29, 2022, 06:48:25 AM
So what is your solution to the problem?
To post on scoop about it hoping we fix it. We can do it!
One solution the AD is working on is having teams live together in dorms. They are working with ORL on this. The thinking is student athletes have too much exposure/risk in today's Milwaukee walking to early morning practices or back to their housing late in the evening after returning from a late game or a road trip. Housing teams together affords greater opportunity to walk in groups, and less risk.
Apparently this move has some "gray" to it as far as compliance goes, but the vibe put out is that is worth it compared to the perceived risk.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 29, 2022, 06:16:47 AM
I consider the use of guns in a crime as a significant threat to human life. If you've noticed, these crimes are being committed during daylight hours. How bold is that? Clearly those intent on robbery and/or bodily harm have no respect for human life. Should any of you, who continue to be in denial or want to minimize the significance of these events, were to be victimized, I'm certain you'd brown out your tidy whitey Jockeys quicker than cockroaches running in the kitchen when the lights are turned on.
Again, this is not unprecedented in Marquette's history, but yes it is a troubling trend that has gotten worse lately not just in Milwaukee, but many other cities.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 29, 2022, 06:16:47 AM
I consider the use of guns in a crime as a significant threat to human life. If you've noticed, these crimes are being committed during daylight hours. How bold is that? Clearly those intent on robbery and/or bodily harm have no respect for human life. Should any of you, who continue to be in denial or want to minimize the significance of these events, were to be victimized, I'm certain you'd brown out your tidy whitey Jockeys quicker than cockroaches running in the kitchen when the lights are turned on.
The University is not located in Marquette, MI or De Pere. When significant bodily injury or worse is a result of these crimes, MU will be in big trouble. At a time when private schools are in competition for tuition dollars, can Marquette be any more than an "also ran," hey?
I have been the victim of it. 15 years ago, if you can believe that crime happened way back then.
MU should work with/put pressure on local and state government with the goal of improving economic conditions for all, thus likely decreasing crime
Why don't you just quit your job and join mission trips to the outer reaches of U.S. poverty and donate your skills and services to accomplish that end, hey?
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 29, 2022, 07:55:50 AM
MU should work with/put pressure on local and state government with the goal of improving economic conditions for all, thus likely decreasing crime
so give everyone some more money...that oughta do it. checks in the mail baby
oh wow ma, lookee here, free money...thank God, saves me a trip to MU to cap any more arses and help myself to stuff that doesn't belong to me
problem solved??
dude, there are lots of job openings
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 29, 2022, 08:14:05 AM
so give everyone some more money...that oughta do it. checks in the mail baby
oh wow ma, lookee here, free money...thank God, saves me a trip to MU to cap any more arses and help myself to stuff that doesn't belong to me
problem solved??
dude, there are lots of job openings
Yet there are also people who are threatened to lose their jobs for shaving their head. So...
Quote from: wadesworld on March 29, 2022, 08:25:09 AM
Yet there are also people who are threatened to lose their jobs for shaving their head. So...
just another job opening then eyna?
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 29, 2022, 08:14:05 AM
so give everyone some more money...that oughta do it. checks in the mail baby
oh wow ma, lookee here, free money...thank God, saves me a trip to MU to cap any more arses and help myself to stuff that doesn't belong to me
problem solved??
dude, there are lots of job openings
"Improving economic conditions for all" doesn't simply mean "free money." Stop being simplistic.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 29, 2022, 08:14:05 AM
so give everyone some more money...that oughta do it. checks in the mail baby
oh wow ma, lookee here, free money...thank God, saves me a trip to MU to cap any more arses and help myself to stuff that doesn't belong to me
problem solved??
dude, there are lots of job openings
7 of 10
Good use of an expletive and ellipses. Really hits a lot of good points. Not your best effort but a solid drop into the conversation
There's a decent interactive tool on the Milwaukee PD website that allows you to check crime by neighborhood. Unfortunately, the data they provide only goes back to 2020 (or at least I haven't found older data yet), but it does offer some factual basis for whether things are indeed descending into chaos, as some here suggest, or not.
Here's what the numbers show for the combined Marquette and Avenues West neighborhoods.
Murder:
2020 - 1
2021 - 2
Rape:
2020 - 8
2021 - 7
Robbery:
2020 - 33
2021 - 28
Aggravated assault:
2020 - 94
2021 - 81
Burglary:
2020 - 48
2021 - 17
Theft/Larceny:
2020 - 90
2021 - 83
Motor vehicle theft:
2020 - 65
2021 - 118
Arson:
2020 - 2
2021 - 4
So, according to the Milwaukee Police Department, anyhow, rather than worsening, the frequency of serious crime around campus actually has fallen. In fact, outside a big spike in car thefts - not exactly the kind of "blood on the streets" stuff we've been told about here - crime in the area was down quite a bit.
Which isn't to say the area is Gooseville, but it never has been Gooseville.
To be fair, the data does show a small increase in YTD crime from 2021 to 2022, but it's not statistically significant (11 total offenses from eight categories). We can keep an eye out throughout the year.
Still, I'd love to see pre-2020 and historical data for the neighborhoods. If anyone knows where I can find it, please let me know.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 29, 2022, 06:16:47 AM
I consider the use of guns in a crime as a significant threat to human life. If you've noticed, these crimes are being committed during daylight hours. How bold is that? Clearly those intent on robbery and/or bodily harm have no respect for human life. Should any of you, who continue to be in denial or want to minimize the significance of these events, were to be victimized, I'm certain you'd brown out your tidy whitey Jockeys quicker than cockroaches running in the kitchen when the lights are turned on.
The University is not located in Marquette, MI or De Pere. When significant bodily injury or worse is a result of these crimes, MU will be in big trouble. At a time when private schools are in competition for tuition dollars, can Marquette be any more than an "also ran," hey?
Pakuni has offered factual evidence that violent crime in the area actually decreased from 2020 to 2021. Do you have evidence showing otherwise?
Regardless, I'm just glad this thread has been re-opened so you have a platform for your "Marquette is a dystopian hellscape" narrative. Better here than in every other thread on the board.
I think you guys should be emailing Lovell on his overreaction letter yesterday rather than posting on why Doc and others are so wrong. He may be causing unwarranted concern for parents, and he should be called out on that.
Quote from: Goose on March 29, 2022, 10:12:26 AM
I think you guys should be emailing Lovell on his overreaction letter yesterday rather than posting on why Doc and others are so wrong. He may be causing unwarranted concern for parents, and he should be called out on that.
Oy. Look I know you want to protect 4ever, and that's cute and all, but no one has said Lovell's communication was inappropriate.
Quote from: MU82 on March 29, 2022, 09:52:04 AM
Pakuni has offered factual evidence that violent crime in the area actually decreased from 2020 to 2021. Do you have evidence showing otherwise?
Regardless, I'm just glad this thread has been re-opened so you have a platform for your "Marquette is a dystopian hellscape" narrative. Better here than in every other thread on the board.
Yup. Old man nads and pakuni say nothing to worry about. Mike Lovell and the MU admin fell different.
I'm going to side with the experts, nads and pakuni.
Piss off, Lovell, you big pūssy.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 29, 2022, 10:14:00 AM
Yup. Old man nads and pakuni say nothing to worry about. Mike Lovell and the MU admin fell different.
I'm going to side with the experts, nads and pakuni.
Piss off, Lovell, you big pūssy.
I literally said nothing of the sort.
Honesty not exactly your strong suit lately (ever?), is it?
Quote from: Goose on March 29, 2022, 10:12:26 AM
I think you guys should be emailing Lovell on his overreaction letter yesterday rather than posting on why Doc and others are so wrong. He may be causing unwarranted concern for parents, and he should be called out on that.
Who knew the simple act of posting data would stir up such anguish.
Quote from: Goose on March 29, 2022, 10:12:26 AM
I think you guys should be emailing Lovell on his overreaction letter yesterday rather than posting on why Doc and others are so wrong. He may be causing unwarranted concern for parents, and he should be called out on that.
I have repeatedly said that crime is always an issue on city campuses, including Marquette's, and I'm glad MU is working to keep it from getting worse on our campus.
Or we can post every incident on a basketball fan board, no matter how small the incidents may be, and claim that Marquette is a war zone - even though statistical evidence seems to show that's not true.
Again, I'm glad we have this thread so hopefully the postings are contained to it.
I just love that the people who are screaming that we need to be concerned about this can't come up with any solution for it, and when things are offered (common sense gun laws?) they say, "No! Second Amendment! Guns don't kill people, people kill people! Why can't you admit there are bad people in the world and that guns can't 'cap' themselves?! Gun laws don't work!" Despite the statistics showing very much the contrary.
So what is the solution? Just keep posting Tweets about crime?
There's a common theme to just about all of these. Firearms are used. Maybe...
Nevermind. Second Amendment.
Only a fool would ignore the link between economics and crime
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 29, 2022, 08:11:13 AM
Why don't you just quit your job and join mission trips to the outer reaches of U.S. poverty and donate your skills and services to accomplish that end, hey?
My individual contributions to healthcare of the impoverished would not make much of a difference in rectifying serious inequality in our country. That requires large-scale programs.
You either consistently post ignorant things or are incredibly disingenuous in your posts. There's no other explanation
Quote from: Pakuni on March 29, 2022, 10:31:54 AM
Who knew the simple act of posting data would stir up such anguish.
I generally agree with your posts (not always, by any means), but you have been doing yeoman's work in this thread as well as a couple others lately.
You either consistently post ignorant things or are incredibly disingenuous in your posts. There's no other explanation
Somethin' 'bout meetin' a black kettle, aina?
solution=separate the bad people from the good people
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 29, 2022, 02:56:58 PM
solution=separate the bad people from the good people
Isn't that why many dentists have moved to Mequon?
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 29, 2022, 02:56:58 PM
solution=separate the bad people from the good people
Someone's watched "Escape from New York" a few too many times.
Quote from: Jockey on March 29, 2022, 12:36:44 PM
I generally agree with your posts (not always, by any means), but you have been doing yeoman's work in this thread as well as a couple others lately.
Get with the times:
https://slate.com/human-interest/2016/04/mistress-and-yeoman-gender-neutral-language-in-ap-style-and-the-military.html (https://slate.com/human-interest/2016/04/mistress-and-yeoman-gender-neutral-language-in-ap-style-and-the-military.html)
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 29, 2022, 02:56:58 PM
solution=separate the bad people from the good people
Get this man a meeting with the senate, house and Biden immediately.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 29, 2022, 02:56:58 PM
solution=separate the bad people from the good people
roqqet's "brain" in action
Quote from: TSmith34 on March 29, 2022, 05:20:04 PM
roqqet's "brain" in action
show me where i'm wrong TinyS
Quote from: lawdog77 on March 29, 2022, 03:11:26 PM
Get with the times:
https://slate.com/human-interest/2016/04/mistress-and-yeoman-gender-neutral-language-in-ap-style-and-the-military.html (https://slate.com/human-interest/2016/04/mistress-and-yeoman-gender-neutral-language-in-ap-style-and-the-military.html)
Got me again, Dog.
I'll use yeoperson from now on. 8-)
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 29, 2022, 06:13:02 PM
show me where i'm wrong TinyS
What do you think makes bad people to be bad people?
Also, are you concerned that we've already incarcerated as many people as china and Russia combined? I'll admit it concerns me a little
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 29, 2022, 07:39:31 PM
What do you think makes bad people to be bad people?
Also, are you concerned that we've already incarcerated as many people as china and Russia combined? I'll admit it concerns me a little
Just the right bad people need to be seperated, not necessarily all bad people.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 29, 2022, 07:41:50 PM
Just the right bad people need to be seperated, not necessarily all bad people.
*wink, wink*
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 29, 2022, 07:39:31 PM
What do you think makes bad people to be bad people?
Also, are you concerned that we've already incarcerated as many people as china and Russia combined? I'll admit it concerns me a little
Someone asked me for a solution? Separate the bad people from the good people- do you think we should scale back our incarcerations because, according to your numbers, we have more incarcerated than Russia and China? Seriously?
What are the numbers compared to kidney and liver transplants? Capital punishment? Let's include those who mysteriously go "missing". How about Russia's "food poisonings". Bad skin rashes, loss of hearing. Might as well ask about the human rights(wrongs) starting with the Uyghurs- how many million imprisoned?
I'm going to venture to say the reasons Russia and China don't have as many in prison is because they don't make it to prison cuz it's hard to live without kidneys and other vital organs
What makes bad people bad? That's a whole separate topic and you digress but I ain't stepping into that one
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 29, 2022, 08:09:26 PM
Someone asked me for a solution? Separate the bad people from the good people- do you think we should scale back our incarcerations because, according to your numbers, we have more incarcerated than Russia and China? Seriously?
What are the numbers compared to kidney and liver transplants? Capital punishment? Let's include those who mysteriously go "missing". How about Russia's "food poisonings". Bad skin rashes, loss of hearing. Might as well ask about the human rights(wrongs) starting with the Uyghurs- how many million imprisoned?
I'm going to venture to say the reasons Russia and China don't have as many in prison is because they don't make it to prison cuz it's hard to live without kidneys and other vital organs
What makes bad people bad? That's a whole separate topic and you digress but I ain't stepping into that one
Does this make any sense to anybody?
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 29, 2022, 08:14:02 PM
Does this make any sense to anybody?
Apparently he believes that we incarcerate less people than Russia and China. Which might be true. I just would hope that we would aim a little higher than that.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 29, 2022, 08:09:26 PM
Someone asked me for a solution? Separate the bad people from the good people- do you think we should scale back our incarcerations because, according to your numbers, we have more incarcerated than Russia and China? Seriously?
What are the numbers compared to kidney and liver transplants? Capital punishment? Let's include those who mysteriously go "missing". How about Russia's "food poisonings". Bad skin rashes, loss of hearing. Might as well ask about the human rights(wrongs) starting with the Uyghurs- how many million imprisoned?
I'm going to venture to say the reasons Russia and China don't have as many in prison is because they don't make it to prison cuz it's hard to live without kidneys and other vital organs
What makes bad people bad? That's a whole separate topic and you digress but I ain't stepping into that one
4 out of 10. Sad!
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 29, 2022, 08:14:02 PM
Does this make any sense to anybody?
Again, that's roqqet's "brain" functioning at full capacity.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 29, 2022, 08:09:26 PM
Someone asked me for a solution? Separate the bad people from the good people- do you think we should scale back our incarcerations because, according to your numbers, we have more incarcerated than Russia and China? Seriously?
What are the numbers compared to kidney and liver transplants? Capital punishment? Let's include those who mysteriously go "missing". How about Russia's "food poisonings". Bad skin rashes, loss of hearing. Might as well ask about the human rights(wrongs) starting with the Uyghurs- how many million imprisoned?
I'm going to venture to say the reasons Russia and China don't have as many in prison is because they don't make it to prison cuz it's hard to live without kidneys and other vital organs
What makes bad people bad? That's a whole separate topic and you digress but I ain't stepping into that one
So your take is that China has harvested the organs of at least 400,000 prisoners leading to their deaths? Even if true, like fluff said, I would hope the land of the free could aspire to better than "tied with China for most incarcerated people" (especially given the population disparity).
My take is that we've already tried incarcerating as many people as we can and it hasn't worked. Rather than wait for a crime to occur, I think we should try understanding why crime occurs and try to address it before the crime occurs.
Which of course leads us back to the question, what do you think drives bad people to be bad people? If we don't understand that, we'll never make any progress
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 29, 2022, 08:54:14 PM
My take is that we've already tried incarcerating as many people as we can and it hasn't worked. Rather than wait for a crime to occur, I think we should try understanding why crime occurs and try to address it before the crime occurs.
Minority Report, nice!
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on March 29, 2022, 08:09:26 PM
Someone asked me for a solution? Separate the bad people from the good people- do you think we should scale back our incarcerations because, according to your numbers, we have more incarcerated than Russia and China? Seriously?
What are the numbers compared to kidney and liver transplants? Capital punishment? Let's include those who mysteriously go "missing". How about Russia's "food poisonings". Bad skin rashes, loss of hearing. Might as well ask about the human rights(wrongs) starting with the Uyghurs- how many million imprisoned?
I'm going to venture to say the reasons Russia and China don't have as many in prison is because they don't make it to prison cuz it's hard to live without kidneys and other vital organs
What makes bad people bad? That's a whole separate topic and you digress but I ain't stepping into that one
Ah. Thanks for clarifying things.
Safety Update: Suspect in custody from credit card skimming incident
Marquette University Police Department officers have taken into custody a suspect in the reported credit card skimming incident at a retail location near campus, which was shared with the Marquette community via the below update on March 25. Charges are pending.
Marquette University is grateful for the responsiveness and professionalism displayed by our MUPD officers.
Shared March 25, 2022: Credit card skimmer recovered near campus
The Marquette University Police Department has recovered a credit card skimming device from the 7-Eleven convenience store located at 17th St. and West Wells St. The device is believed to have been in place for approximately six weeks. If you have made a purchase at the store in the last six weeks and swiped your credit or debit card, MUPD encourages you to monitor your account closely and change your PIN.
This sort of thing would never happen if Marquette moved to Mequon!
My take is that we've already tried incarcerating as many people as we can and it hasn't worked. Rather than wait for a crime to occur, I think we should try understanding why crime occurs and try to address it before the crime occurs.
Which of course leads us back to the question, what do you think drives bad people to be bad people? If we don't understand that, we'll never make any progress
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We did incarcerate too many people but at least the decent people were safe. Now everyone is in danger from the predators released hours after crimes to repeat. Perhaps we should begin to teach the role of consequences for bad acts and help people acquire basic reading and math skills so they can function in society.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 06, 2022, 08:24:59 PM
My take is that we've already tried incarcerating as many people as we can and it hasn't worked. Rather than wait for a crime to occur, I think we should try understanding why crime occurs and try to address it before the crime occurs.
Which of course leads us back to the question, what do you think drives bad people to be bad people? If we don't understand that, we'll never make any progress
We did incarcerate too many people but at least the decent people were safe. Now everyone is in danger from the predators released hours after crimes to repeat. Perhaps we should begin to teach the role of consequences for bad acts and help people acquire basic reading and math skills so they can function in society.
let me get this straight-"we did incarcerate TOO MANY PEOPLE, but at least decent people were safe"
so which way do you want it? keep decent people safe? or stop incarcerating people? or just incarcerate a few people? how about if we start with incarcerating people who cannot behave in society? people who are dangerous to decent people. if that means building more prisons..build them.
this guy was just let out of prison...early...despite many saying he has a disregard for life and will probably kill someone...well, they got it partly right...he killed 6 people
https://abc7news.com/mass-shooting-sacramento-suspects-smiley-martin-prison/11714728/
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 06, 2022, 08:24:59 PM
We did incarcerate too many people but at least the decent people were safe. Now everyone is in danger from the predators released hours after crimes to repeat. Perhaps we should begin to teach the role of consequences for bad acts and help people acquire basic reading and math skills so they can function in society.
Got any data to back up your assertion that decent people used to be safe?
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 06, 2022, 08:36:05 PM
let me get this straight-"we did incarcerate TOO MANY PEOPLE, but at least decent people were safe"
so which way do you want it? keep decent people safe? or stop incarcerating people? or just incarcerate a few people? how about if we start with incarcerating people who cannot behave in society? people who are dangerous to decent people. if that means building more prisons..build them.
this guy was just let out of prison...early...despite many saying he has a disregard for life and will probably kill someone...well, they got it partly right...he killed 6 people
https://abc7news.com/mass-shooting-sacramento-suspects-smiley-martin-prison/11714728/
1. Watch your friendly fire
2. To answer your poorly targeted question, I would like truly violent offenders to be incarcerated. I would like a massive decrease in the amount of non violent offenders who are incarcerated coupled with a focus on rehabilitation and primary prevention.
3. You still haven't answered my question, what do you think drives bad people to be bad people?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 06, 2022, 08:41:56 PM
Got any data to back up your assertion that decent people used to be safe?
well i don't have the data, but i'll bet there were many more DECENT people who had their cars jacked the past few years. if you can refer to safety as NOT having ones cat taken from them forcefully, then yes, decent people USED to be safer
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 06, 2022, 08:49:22 PM
1. Watch your friendly fire
2. To answer your poorly targeted question, I would like truly violent offenders to be incarcerated. I would like a massive decrease in the amount of non violent offenders who are incarcerated coupled with a focus on rehabilitation and primary prevention.
3. You still haven't answered my question, what do you think drives bad people to be bad people?
tamu, that's a very complicated question; one that would be very difficult to answer here. people have written books on that subject for chriminey sakes. and i'm not so naive to step into that one here. but i'm all ears man
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 06, 2022, 08:57:16 PM
tamu, that's a very complicated question; one that would be very difficult to answer here. people have written books on that subject for chriminey sakes. and i'm not so naive to step into that one here. but i'm all ears man
He's just a dentist, not a politician. Der.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 06, 2022, 08:57:16 PM
tamu, that's a very complicated question; one that would be very difficult to answer here. people have written books on that subject for chriminey sakes. and i'm not so naive to step into that one here. but i'm all ears man
So you have no interest in discussing why crime occurs.... just lock up all the bad people? What do you do with the bad people once you lock them up? Keep them there forever?
Quote from: Retire0 on April 06, 2022, 09:23:00 PM
He's just a dentist, not a politician. Der.
ok zero for brains, what's the solution? how about you and tamu tell us how you would do it?
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 05:54:46 AM
ok zero for brains, what's the solution? how about you and tamu tell us how you would do it?
Well TAMU already did...
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 05:54:46 AM
ok zero for brains, what's the solution? how about you and tamu tell us how you would do it?
Lock 'em all up, unless they're the right political persuasion and hold rally's
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 06, 2022, 08:36:05 PM
let me get this straight-"we did incarcerate TOO MANY PEOPLE, but at least decent people were safe"
so which way do you want it? keep decent people safe? or stop incarcerating people? or just incarcerate a few people? how about if we start with incarcerating people who cannot behave in society? people who are dangerous to decent people. if that means building more prisons..build them.
this guy was just let out of prison...early...despite many saying he has a disregard for life and will probably kill someone...well, they got it partly right...he killed 6 people
https://abc7news.com/mass-shooting-sacramento-suspects-smiley-martin-prison/11714728/
The problem is rocket we are incarcerating too many people who don't pose much of a safety risk to society OR who haven't been convicted for anything.
Here is a breakdown:
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2022.html
If we kept the truly violent people in prisons, but found ways to rehabilitate those who aren't really much of a safety risk, we would be much better off as a society. Just locking people up because they break laws, without determining societal harm, is wasteful and inhumane.
Look, y'all are thinkin' too hard.
Build more prisons, pay $100/hr or more to staff them (because there's already a serious shortage of prison workers), and lock up all the people roQQet thinks are bad.
Rehabilitation? Ain't no rehabilitation allowed. Throw away the key.
Problem solved, society saved!
Two words: Penal Colonies.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 06, 2022, 08:54:38 PM
if you can refer to safety as NOT having ones cat taken from them forcefully, then yes, decent people USED to be safer
Lock your doors.
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Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 07, 2022, 08:21:50 AM
Two words: Penal Colonies.
Do we have any urologists on the board that want to comment?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 06, 2022, 08:41:56 PM
Got any data to back up your assertion that decent people used to be safe?
Plenty of data showing how the current crime numbers have soared since no bail policies. pick the city
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2022, 11:05:46 AM
Plenty of data showing how the current crime numbers have soared since no bail policies. pick the city
Right. You said they were "safe" and now they are "not safe." The point is that people were never "safe" to begin with.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2022, 11:05:46 AM
Plenty of data showing how the current crime numbers have soared since no bail policies. pick the city
Please show me these numbers. I haven't seen them. I've seen many people reference them but never post them. I've tried to find them myself and I've seen numbers that tell a different story but would love to learn more.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2022, 11:05:46 AM
Plenty of data showing how the current crime numbers have soared since no bail policies. pick the city
We've been through this already. You're wrong.
"We found four states, as well as nine cities and counties, where there is existing data on public safety from before and after the adoption of pretrial reforms. All but one of these jurisdictions saw decreases or negligible increases in crime after implementing reforms. The one exception is New York State, where the reform law existed for just a few months before it was largely rolled back."https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/11/17/pretrial-releases/
TAMU just this morning on network news crime in NYC up 44%
Same type of data has been reported for many cities. Sacramento shooter was early release despite DA saying he was capable of more violence once released. I agree with you that SOME people were locked up unfairly but the pendulum has swung to an extreme and law abiding citizens are being preyed upon.
Quote from: Clarissa on April 07, 2022, 07:44:58 AM
The problem is rocket we are incarcerating too many people who don't pose much of a safety risk to society OR who haven't been convicted for anything.
Here is a breakdown:
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2022.html
If we kept the truly violent people in prisons, but found ways to rehabilitate those who aren't really much of a safety risk, we would be much better off as a society. Just locking people up because they break laws, without determining societal harm, is wasteful and inhumane.
seems like the people in charge don't know the difference between who is a risk to society and who isn't. reading your prison policy article, it begins with having too many "criminal systems". too many chefs stirring the soup. centralize the criminal justice system. come up with a grading system for each person. i'm hoping we have some experts doing this. juveniles are not committing juvenile crimes.
anyone who is deemed to be able to live in our society and follow the laws, gets out of prison/jail-
remain alcohol and drug free
finish some level of education and become gainfully employed
NOT BREAK LAWS
break these laws, go back to end of line and back into prison
have levels of security depending on the crime and/or evaluation formed by committee
hold judges, police and parole boards accountable for who they release. if they release someone who commits any crime that involves great bodily harm(rape, murder, physical injury) they serve some sort of punishment to be determined.
trying to determine WHY people commit crimes is so multifaceted, you would be setting up a system that will fail-bad families, alcohol/drug abuse, education, upbringing, mental health...some of these things are not curable. bottom line is whatever we are doing today is not working. recidivism is a big reason, but you say we have too many in prison? either we have the wrong people in prison or we don't have enough people in prison because crime is out of control in many areas. juvenile crime is way up. childrens behavior in schools is abhorrent with teachers feeling helpless. if bad behavior is not punished, you WILL get more of
it.
if the crime is not addressed, it will be deemed acceptable and it is not.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2022, 11:44:00 AM
We've been through this already. You're wrong.
"We found four states, as well as nine cities and counties, where there is existing data on public safety from before and after the adoption of pretrial reforms. All but one of these jurisdictions saw decreases or negligible increases in crime after implementing reforms. The one exception is New York State, where the reform law existed for just a few months before it was largely rolled back."
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/11/17/pretrial-releases/
so this is all just a figment of our imaginations? Chicago? houston? st louis? philadelphia? milwaukee?
car jackings are out of control, kids respect no one
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2022, 11:51:57 AM
TAMU just this morning on network news crime in NYC up 44%
Same type of data has been reported for many cities. Sacramento shooter was early release despite DA saying he was capable of more violence once released. I agree with you that SOME people were locked up unfairly but the pendulum has swung to an extreme and law abiding citizens are being preyed upon.
What does "crime up 44%" mean? Up 44% from when? What is crime defined as? That's a wonderful catch phrase that I'm sure some talking head somewhere said but it doesn't really tell me anything.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 11:54:36 AM
bottom line is whatever we are doing today is not working.
I'm so glad you agree! Cause what we are doing now is locking up people at a higher rate than any other developed country in the world. So we should stop doing that and try something else. Unless your position is that every other developed country has worse crime than we do in which case, why are we complaining?
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 11:54:36 AM
either we have the wrong people in prison or we don't have enough people in prison because crime is out of control in many areas.
Is it possible that our high rate of incarceration contributes to the current level of crime? I think it is likely.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 11:54:36 AM
If bad behavior is not punished, you WILL get more of
it.
if the crime is not addressed, it will be deemed acceptable and it is not.
So is negative reinforcement the only way to address crime? My personal experience is that threatening people into making good choices rarely works and rewarding people for making good choices is usually a lot more effective.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2022, 11:44:00 AM
We've been through this already. You're wrong.
"We found four states, as well as nine cities and counties, where there is existing data on public safety from before and after the adoption of pretrial reforms. All but one of these jurisdictions saw decreases or negligible increases in crime after implementing reforms. The one exception is New York State, where the reform law existed for just a few months before it was largely rolled back."
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/11/17/pretrial-releases/
Well if we got rid of all laws, crime would be at 0%
Serious question though, what would be an acceptable number/% of people committing crimes while on pre-trial release?
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 07, 2022, 12:27:17 PM
Well if we got rid of all laws, crime would be at 0%
Serious question though, what would be an acceptable number/% of people committing crimes while on pre-trial release?
I don't think there is such a thing ... and I find your question to be as serious as "When did you stop beating your wife, lawdog77?"
Serious question, though, are you opposed to all forms of pretrial release?
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2022, 12:36:32 PM
I don't think there is such a thing ... and I find your question to be as serious as "When did you stop beating your wife, lawdog77?"
Serious question, though, are you opposed to all forms of pretrial release?
Why is it not a serious question? Your linked article touts this stat:
New York, for example:
Public safety: The city's new criminal activity rate, which measures the rate at which people commit new crimes while awaiting trial, is 10%. This puts it on par with Washington, D.C. which is often used as a model of pretrial reform success.
My question, is that an acceptable rate ?
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 07, 2022, 12:42:25 PM
Why is it not a serious question? Your linked article touts this stat:
New York, for example:
Public safety: The city's new criminal activity rate, which measures the rate at which people commit new crimes while awaiting trial, is 10%. This puts it on par with Washington, D.C. which is often used as a model of pretrial reform success.
My question, is that an acceptable rate ?
It's a cheap, transparent rhetorical trick trying to get me to say I'm OK with a certain level of crime. And actually irrelevant to the discussion, as I have seen no evidence to show that people out on cash bail are less likely to reoffend than those out on recognizance or some other form of pretrial release.
Now, please, answer my question ... are you opposed to pretrial release?
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 11:57:38 AM
so this is all just a figment of our imaginations? Chicago? houston? st louis? philadelphia? milwaukee?
car jackings are out of control, kids respect no one
Most of these places you list have a cash bail system.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2022, 12:54:18 PM
It's a cheap, transparent rhetorical trick trying to get me to say I'm OK with a certain level of crime. And actually irrelevant to the discussion, as I have seen no evidence to show that people out on cash bail are less likely to reoffend than those out on recognizance or some other form of pretrial release.
Now, please, answer my question... are you opposed to pretrial release?
If you remove the ellipse, I will.
No, I'm not. I was just simply asking the question to the group. Is there an acceptable amount ? For example if people out on bail for certain crimes had a very low % of skipping trial and low % of committing additional crimes,(say under 1%), have those crimes be ROR.
"Is it possible that our high rate of incarceration contributes to the current level of crime? I think it is likely."
i disagree. i don't believe you can conflate the 2 here.
"So is negative reinforcement the only way to address crime? My personal experience is that threatening people into making good choices rarely works and rewarding people for making good choices is usually a lot more effective."
not the only way, but rewarding "is USUALLY a lot more effective"??
ok, some dude commits a crime so he can be rewarded for NOT doing it again?? to pay people NOT to do something that is wrong? hey, i didn't steal something today...pay me. i haven't raped anyone recently-better pay up or i might just have to lose all self control??
maybe in SOME cases, rewarding can be effective, but sounds like you do not like the idea of imprisonment. what do we do about those who make our society unsafe? don't we deserve to live safe without worry that our cars won't be taken from us? our women will not be raped? our children will not be abused?
i think we have instituted programs where prisoners of certain crimes can "earn" their way out by following certain set standards
we have f'd up our society to the point where crime has run rampant without regard for human life and property.
rudy giuliani as mayor of new york 1994-2001 cleaned up that city by enforcing our laws, not by rewarding the criminal
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 02:27:24 PM
"Is it possible that our high rate of incarceration contributes to the current level of crime? I think it is likely."
i disagree. i don't believe you can conflate the 2 here.
"So is negative reinforcement the only way to address crime? My personal experience is that threatening people into making good choices rarely works and rewarding people for making good choices is usually a lot more effective."
not the only way, but rewarding "is USUALLY a lot more effective"??
ok, some dude commits a crime so he can be rewarded for NOT doing it again?? to pay people NOT to do something that is wrong? hey, i didn't steal something today...pay me. i haven't raped anyone recently-better pay up or i might just have to lose all self control??
maybe in SOME cases, rewarding can be effective, but sounds like you do not like the idea of imprisonment. what do we do about those who make our society unsafe? don't we deserve to live safe without worry that our cars won't be taken from us? our women will not be raped? our children will not be abused?
i think we have instituted programs where prisoners of certain crimes can "earn" their way out by following certain set standards
we have f'd up our society to the point where crime has run rampant without regard for human life and property.
rudy giuliani as mayor of new york 1994-2001 cleaned up that city by enforcing our laws, not by rewarding the criminal
And now Rudy should be in jail!
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 11:54:36 AM
seems like the people in charge don't know the difference between who is a risk to society and who isn't. reading your prison policy article, it begins with having too many "criminal systems". too many chefs stirring the soup. centralize the criminal justice system. come up with a grading system for each person. i'm hoping we have some experts doing this. juveniles are not committing juvenile crimes.
anyone who is deemed to be able to live in our society and follow the laws, gets out of prison/jail-
remain alcohol and drug free
finish some level of education and become gainfully employed
NOT BREAK LAWS
break these laws, go back to end of line and back into prison
have levels of security depending on the crime and/or evaluation formed by committee
hold judges, police and parole boards accountable for who they release. if they release someone who commits any crime that involves great bodily harm(rape, murder, physical injury) they serve some sort of punishment to be determined.
You say some good things here, but a few thoughts...
**If alcohol and legal drugs weren't part of their problem, why should they be forced to abstain now?
**Being gainfully employed is good, but may not be possible. The full safety net should be available to them like any other citizen.
**Any law? Or just a repeat of the past offense or something similar.
And you will ALWAYS have people let out of jail who commit felonious acts. It is simply unavoidable. So punishing those who let them out, but didn't have anything to do with them committing the acts, makes no sense.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 11:54:36 AM
seems like the people in charge don't know the difference between who is a risk to society and who isn't. reading your prison policy article, it begins with having too many "criminal systems". too many chefs stirring the soup. centralize the criminal justice system. come up with a grading system for each person. i'm hoping we have some experts doing this. juveniles are not committing juvenile crimes.
anyone who is deemed to be able to live in our society and follow the laws, gets out of prison/jail-
remain alcohol and drug free
finish some level of education and become gainfully employed
NOT BREAK LAWS
break these laws, go back to end of line and back into prison
have levels of security depending on the crime and/or evaluation formed by committee
hold judges, police and parole boards accountable for who they release. if they release someone who commits any crime that involves great bodily harm(rape, murder, physical injury) they serve some sort of punishment to be determined.
trying to determine WHY people commit crimes is so multifaceted, you would be setting up a system that will fail-bad families, alcohol/drug abuse, education, upbringing, mental health...some of these things are not curable. bottom line is whatever we are doing today is not working. recidivism is a big reason, but you say we have too many in prison? either we have the wrong people in prison or we don't have enough people in prison because crime is out of control in many areas. juvenile crime is way up. childrens behavior in schools is abhorrent with teachers feeling helpless. if bad behavior is not punished, you WILL get more of
it.
if the crime is not addressed, it will be deemed acceptable and it is not.
I would assume you would be in favor of gun manufacturers and gun stores being punished when armed robbery and murder are carried out.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 02:27:24 PM
"Is it possible that our high rate of incarceration contributes to the current level of crime? I think it is likely."
i disagree. i don't believe you can conflate the 2 here.
Interesting. You don't think that when someone is incarcerated it impacts the financial security of their families? Or their own financial security when they get out? My guess is that there is a correlation between those who are financially insecure and those who commit crimes.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 02:27:24 PM
"So is negative reinforcement the only way to address crime? My personal experience is that threatening people into making good choices rarely works and rewarding people for making good choices is usually a lot more effective."
not the only way, but rewarding "is USUALLY a lot more effective"??
ok, some dude commits a crime so he can be rewarded for NOT doing it again?? to pay people NOT to do something that is wrong? hey, i didn't steal something today...pay me. i haven't raped anyone recently-better pay up or i might just have to lose all self control??
Do you really think that's what I was suggesting? Did I say anything about rewarding criminals? What if we made other paths to financial security more viable and rewarding so that people don't turn to crime in the first place?
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 02:27:24 PM
maybe in SOME cases, rewarding can be effective, but sounds like you do not like the idea of imprisonment. what do we do about those who make our society unsafe? don't we deserve to live safe without worry that our cars won't be taken from us? our women will not be raped? our children will not be abused?
i think we have instituted programs where prisoners of certain crimes can "earn" their way out by following certain set standards
we have f'd up our society to the point where crime has run rampant without regard for human life and property.
rudy giuliani as mayor of new york 1994-2001 cleaned up that city by enforcing our laws, not by rewarding the criminal
I'm not against imprisonment for violent offenders. You rape someone, you abuse a child, or you use weapon to steal car, you should go to prison. But we have hundreds of thousands of non-violent offenders in prison in this country. Those are the ones that I question prison being the right intervention for. I also think a system that focuses entirely on tertiary prevention (responding to crime after it has already happened) is doomed to fail. There needs to be at least equal focus (I would argue a greater focus) on primary and secondary prevention.
Desperate people do desperate things. Let's find out what is causing their desperation and minimize it as much as possible.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 02:27:24 PM
don't we deserve to live safe without worry that our cars won't be taken from us?
That's what auto insurance is for.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 02:27:24 PM'
don't we deserve to live safe without worry that our cars won't be taken from us? our women will not be raped? our children will not be abused?
What do you mean by "deserve?" Deserve implies that it living in a crime free society is a reward of some sort.
It would be wonderful if cars weren't taken from us, women not be raped and children will not be abused, and we should strive to have that happen. But I don't understand how we "deserve" those outcomes.
Improve economic conditions for everyone and crime decreases. Magic
Back on topic...
Here is a very comprehensive summary of the safety situation at Marquette:
https://today.marquette.edu/2022/04/common-safety-questions-answered/?fbclid=IwAR0mmD9xScTWjAC8hRKwllYD-1DVxwJriVFkaOhLB0niEyUV2lwSCldd8AU
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 07, 2022, 04:24:16 PM
Improve economic conditions for everyone and crime decreases. Magic
The irony is that some here would rather spend $30K-$40K a year to keep someone in prison, but are outraged over spending a fraction of that on programs that are proven to reduce crime, i.e. early education, juvenile intervention, child care, etc.
if there were programs that were efficient and worked nobody would object but they seem ineffective and
money holes . Meanwhile crime is rampant and serial offenders are apprehended and released. A neighbor just had the catalytic convertor stolen despite a lock. Second loss this year for them. i see where there are daily violent attacks in NYC, dozens of car break-ins in SF for example. This is not the definition of a civilized society. I'm just hoping to see the reintroduction of Common Sense. Plenty of room for compassionate treatment under the law but civil society exists for the protection and betterment of the law abiding
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2022, 06:05:33 PM
if there were programs that were efficient and worked nobody would object but they seem ineffective and
money holes . Meanwhile crime is rampant and serial offenders are apprehended and released. A neighbor just had the catalytic convertor stolen despite a lock. Second loss this year for them. i see where there are daily violent attacks in NYC, dozens of car break-ins in SF for example. This is not the definition of a civilized society. I'm just hoping to see the reintroduction of Common Sense. Plenty of room for compassionate treatment under the law but civil society exists for the protection and betterment of the law abiding
I'm surprised you even manage to leave the house without panicking.
Quote from: Clarissa on April 07, 2022, 06:08:16 PM
I'm surprised you even manage to leave the house without panicking.
We can't all live in the mean streets of Depere.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2022, 05:25:57 PM
The irony is that some here would rather spend $30K-$40K a year to keep someone in prison, but are outraged over spending a fraction of that on programs that are proven to reduce crime, i.e. early education, juvenile intervention, child care, etc.
Ding, ding ding, we have a winner. 9 to 1 payback. Not that complex. But we are Americans, if it takes years to see the positive effects we won't do it. If it means spending up front, people will complain (fee would see it as an investment with great returns). Really too bad.
Also, for lower income kids, they'd see a 13 point IQ increase on average. I'm told it can be the difference between graduating high school or college for a lot of financially disadvantaged kids. Makes too much sense.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2022, 06:05:33 PM
if there were programs that were efficient and worked nobody would object but they seem ineffective and
money holes .
I literally just listed three types of programs that are proven to reduce crime.
In the meantime, there may be no government money holes this side of the defense budget larger than the prison system.
Quote
Meanwhile crime is rampant and serial offenders are apprehended and released.
Crimes per 100,000 in the U.S.
1965 = 2,449.0
1970 = 3,984.5
1975 = 5,298.5
1980 = 5,950.0
1985 = 5,207.1
1990 = 5,820.3
1995 = 5,274.9
2000 = 4,124.8
2005 = 3,900.5
2010 = 3,350.4
2015 = 2,885.1
2020 = 2,346.0
Can we stop with the silly, and easily proved false, claims that crime is suddenly "rampant" and "out of control." Crime rates are at their lowest levels since the mid 1960s, and half what they were through the 80s and 90s.
Yes, crime has ticked up slightly over the past few years (hint: pandemic), but we're still significantly safer than we've been at any time in the past 50 years.
Sources:
https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/home
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2022, 07:15:14 PM
I literally just listed three types of programs that are proven to reduce crime.
In the meantime, there may be no government money holes this side of the defense budget larger than the prison system.
Crimes per 100,000 in the U.S.
1965 = 2,449.0
1970 = 3,984.5
1975 = 5,298.5
1980 = 5,950.0
1985 = 5,207.1
1990 = 5,820.3
1995 = 5,274.9
2000 = 4,124.8
2005 = 3,900.5
2010 = 3,350.4
2015 = 2,885.1
2020 = 2,346.0
Can we stop with the silly, and easily proved false, claims that crime is suddenly "rampant" and "out of control." Crime rates are at their lowest levels since the mid 1960s, and half what they were through the 80s and 90s.
Yes, crime has ticked up slightly over the past few years (hint: pandemic), but we're still significantly safer than we've been at any time in the past 50 years.
Sources:
https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/home
I wonder if those claiming that there's a significant increase in crime will post data/sources as you have been doing.
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 07, 2022, 09:28:47 PM
I wonder if those claiming that there's a significant increase in crime will post data/sources as you have been doing.
4ever posts his sources at least once every 2 weeks.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2022, 06:05:33 PM
if there were programs that were efficient and worked nobody would object but they seem ineffective and
money holes . Meanwhile crime is rampant and serial offenders are apprehended and released. A neighbor just had the catalytic convertor stolen despite a lock. Second loss this year for them. i see where there are daily violent attacks in NYC, dozens of car break-ins in SF for example. This is not the definition of a civilized society. I'm just hoping to see the reintroduction of Common Sense. Plenty of room for compassionate treatment under the law but civil society exists for the protection and betterment of the law abiding
Here are your Crime Rates per capita by state. Hint: The leaders aren't your liberal boogey men of NY and CA. Not that facts can penetrate the echo chamber of Faux & Friends.
(https://images2.imgbox.com/3b/09/C3avJqNa_o.jpg) (https://imgbox.com/C3avJqNa)
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/crime-rate-by-state?msclkid=5bb80bf2b6f211eca45e837dec733b34
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2022, 06:05:33 PM
if there were programs that were efficient and worked nobody would object but they seem ineffective and
money holes . Meanwhile crime is rampant and serial offenders are apprehended and released. A neighbor just had the catalytic convertor stolen despite a lock. Second loss this year for them. i see where there are daily violent attacks in NYC, dozens of car break-ins in SF for example. This is not the definition of a civilized society. I'm just hoping to see the reintroduction of Common Sense. Plenty of room for compassionate treatment under the law but civil society exists for the protection and betterment of the law abiding
Those perps need a life sentence
Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on April 07, 2022, 03:02:38 PM
That's what auto insurance is for.
Sure, insurance is the answer. Criminals break into your home and steal your stuff?...homeowners insurance. Criminals assault you and put you in the hospital, maybe knock a few teeth out?...medical and dental insurance. Criminals beat you to the point that you're unable to ever work again?...disability insurance. Criminals murder you in cold blood?...life insurance.
Criminals aren't the problem - the problem is the victims are under insured.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2022, 07:15:14 PM
I literally just listed three types of programs that are proven to reduce crime.
In the meantime, there may be no government money holes this side of the defense budget larger than the prison system.
Crimes per 100,000 in the U.S.
1965 = 2,449.0
1970 = 3,984.5
1975 = 5,298.5
1980 = 5,950.0
1985 = 5,207.1
1990 = 5,820.3
1995 = 5,274.9
2000 = 4,124.8
2005 = 3,900.5
2010 = 3,350.4
2015 = 2,885.1
2020 = 2,346.0
Can we stop with the silly, and easily proved false, claims that crime is suddenly "rampant" and "out of control." Crime rates are at their lowest levels since the mid 1960s, and half what they were through the 80s and 90s.
Yes, crime has ticked up slightly over the past few years (hint: pandemic), but we're still significantly safer than we've been at any time in the past 50 years.
Sources:
https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/home
Crime is down but an awful lot of cities are breaking records for murders.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 07, 2022, 06:05:33 PM
if there were programs that were efficient and worked nobody would object but they seem ineffective and
money holes . Meanwhile crime is rampant and serial offenders are apprehended and released. A neighbor just had the catalytic convertor stolen despite a lock. Second loss this year for them. i see where there are daily violent attacks in NYC, dozens of car break-ins in SF for example. This is not the definition of a civilized society. I'm just hoping to see the reintroduction of Common Sense. Plenty of room for compassionate treatment under the law but civil society exists for the protection and betterment of the law abiding
hey!! a voice of reason is a breath of fresh air in this world they have you believe our air is dirty and our water unclean, but i digress...perception is reality and i don't give a rats posterior what the numbers say, violent crime is up. in certain areas of milwaukee, stop signs have become very optional with no regard for speed limits or pedestrians and, other vehicles. anyone have the numbers on that one? car jackings have skyrocketed (for one instance)and they have become increasingly more violent if one tries to defend their own property. the "young-ens" recruited to carry out said acts have no fear of retribution nor incarceration.
so by jes-mans reasoning, we should just write checks out and/or buy cars for any of those wandering around with nothing else to do? pay them for not carrying a piece? what next? pay them for going to school?
what price can you put on NOT having anyone get raped, killed, having our car stolen?? how much would you pay not to have to go thru a day of any type of violent crime upon you or someone you know?
and yes clareeza, we do "deserve" to live safely
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 08, 2022, 09:33:13 AM
perception is reality and i don't give a rats posterior what the numbers say, violent crime is up.
LOL. The crime "eye-test?"
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 08, 2022, 09:33:13 AM
hey!! a voice of reason is a breath of fresh air in this world they have you believe our air is dirty and our water unclean, but i digress...perception is reality and i don't give a rats posterior what the numbers say, violent crime is up. in certain areas of milwaukee, stop signs have become very optional with no regard for speed limits or pedestrians and, other vehicles. anyone have the numbers on that one? car jackings have skyrocketed (for one instance)and they have become increasingly more violent if one tries to defend their own property. the "young-ens" recruited to carry out said acts have no fear of retribution nor incarceration.
so by jes-mans reasoning, we should just write checks out and/or buy cars for any of those wandering around with nothing else to do? pay them for not carrying a piece? what next? pay them for going to school?
what price can you put on NOT having anyone get raped, killed, having our car stolen?? how much would you pay not to have to go thru a day of any type of violent crime upon you or someone you know?
and yes clareeza, we do "deserve" to live safely
So your solution is to lock everyone up, yet you say these people aren't afraid of being locked up. Seems to suggest that your solution is not effective at all.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 08, 2022, 09:30:10 AM
Crime is down but an awful lot of cities are breaking records for murders.
I'm sure that has absolutely nothing othing to do with the proliferation of guns.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 08, 2022, 09:30:10 AM
Crime is down but an awful lot of cities are breaking records for murders.
Is that true? Do you have any data that supports that? What I've seen is that there was a small spike during the pandemic that seems to be regressing to the mean already.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 08, 2022, 09:15:06 AM
Sure, insurance is the answer. Criminals break into your home and steal your stuff?...homeowners insurance. Criminals assault you and put you in the hospital, maybe knock a few teeth out?...medical and dental insurance. Criminals beat you to the point that you're unable to ever work again?...disability insurance. Criminals murder you in cold blood?...life insurance.
Criminals aren't the problem - the problem is the victims are under insured.
FFS, my comment was regarding car break-ins, ALM was staying awake at night worried his Benz would get a broken window.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 08, 2022, 09:33:13 AM
perception is reality and i don't give a rats posterior what the numbers say, violent crime is up.
Glad to know perception is reality. My perception is that violent crime is significantly down from past generations and has leveled after a small spike during the pandemic. So by your logic, that's the reality!
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 08, 2022, 09:33:13 AM
so by jes-mans reasoning, we should just write checks out and/or buy cars for any of those wandering around with nothing else to do? pay them for not carrying a piece? what next? pay them for going to school?
what price can you put on NOT having anyone get raped, killed, having our car stolen?? how much would you pay not to have to go thru a day of any type of violent crime upon you or someone you know?
So in one sentence, you criticize someone for wanting to spend money on crime prevention...but the next you say that you can't put a price on preventing crime. Which is it?
You seem to be resistant to the idea that crime can be prevented. Your only solutions involve waiting for a crime to be committed. You don't see a problem there?
Quote from: Clarissa on April 08, 2022, 09:34:10 AM
LOL. The crime "eye-test?"
roQQet's just channeling his inner Giuliani: "Truth isn't truth."
Speaking of criminals who should be locked up to protect society.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 08, 2022, 09:33:13 AM
perception is reality and i don't give a rats posterior what the numbers say
This perfectly encapsulates how your "brain" works.
Perception is reality only because in the past, certain areas had the lion's share of the more serious crime. Now it's moved into areas where people didn't see it before. So they think it's increased because to their perception, it has. I've seen this exact discussion in neighborhood online groups.
I go to my neighborhood beat meetings, so I see the actual numbers.
Quote from: Warriors4ever on April 08, 2022, 11:42:44 AM
Perception is reality only because in the past, certain areas had the lion's share of the more serious crime. Now it's moved into areas where people didn't see it before. So they think it's increased because to their perception, it has. I've seen this exact discussion in neighborhood online groups.
I go to my neighborhood beat meetings, so I see the actual numbers.
No perception is reality because they have been told that's reality.
"They're gonna take away our guns!"
Quote from: TSmith34 on April 08, 2022, 10:07:20 AM
This perfectly encapsulates how your "brain" works.
why don't you go fu#* yourself smith!! sick and tired of your bullschiff man!!
I haven't checked this thread in a while. Do I still need to be scared of black people?
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 08, 2022, 05:51:39 PM
why don't you go fu#* yourself smith!! sick and tired of your bullschiff man!!
10 of 10
Great work!
Quote from: TSmith34 on April 08, 2022, 10:07:20 AM
This perfectly encapsulates how your "brain" works.
Sunday?
🐷🐷
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 08, 2022, 09:51:34 AM
Is that true? Do you have any data that supports that? What I've seen is that there was a small spike during the pandemic that seems to be regressing to the mean already.
TAMU
From CNN.com: 10 Of the country's most populous cities set homicide records in 2021
From The Hill:Chicago's 797 homicides in 2021 are the highest in 25 years.
From Fox: At least 16 major US cities set homicide records in 2021.
Lots more information available for anyone interested enough to do a simple Google search.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 08, 2022, 09:51:34 AM
Is that true? Do you have any data that supports that? What I've seen is that there was a small spike during the pandemic that seems to be regressing to the mean already.
Just a small pandemic blip.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/12-major-us-cities-top-annual-homicide-records/story%3fid=81466453
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 08, 2022, 09:36:06 PM
TAMU
From CNN.com: 10 Of the country's most populous cities set homicide records in 2021
From The Hill:Chicago's 797 homicides in 2021 are the highest in 25 years.
From Fox: At least 16 major US cities set homicide records in 2021.
Lots more information available for anyone interested enough to do a simple Google search.
Quote from: pacearrow02 on April 08, 2022, 10:30:26 PM
Just a small pandemic blip.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/12-major-us-cities-top-annual-homicide-records/story%3fid=81466453
I've done the google searches Lenny, I just read more than the headlines and actually look at the data that their reporting on. Yes, several cities have set all time highs in TOTAL homicides. But not homicide rates (maybe some cities have, I'm not personally aware of them). Take Austin, Texas for example. The population of the Austin Metro area in 1984 was 444,800. There were 59 murders that year (previous record) for a rate of 1 murder per 7,539 people. In 2021 the population of Austin was 2,117,000 so with 88 murders that makes a murder rate of 1 murder per 24,057 people, over 3x less.
News outlets are very good at finding scary/exciting/sexy sounding numbers and trumpeting them out. You have to take the extra step of actually understanding what the numbers mean.
Don't get me wrong, homicide rates raising at all is a problematic trend and one we should work to reverse. But catastrophizing it while simultaneously falsely praising the safety of the good old days is not helpful and can be quite problematic and toxic.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 08, 2022, 11:31:01 PM
I've done the google searches Lenny, I just read more than the headlines and actually look at the data that their reporting on. Yes, several cities have set all time highs in TOTAL homicides. But not homicide rates (maybe some cities have, I'm not personally aware of them). Take Austin, Texas for example. The population of the Austin Metro area in 1984 was 444,800. There were 59 murders that year (previous record) for a rate of 1 murder per 7,539 people. In 2021 the population of Austin was 2,117,000 so with 88 murders that makes a murder rate of 1 murder per 24,057 people, over 3x less.
News outlets are very good at finding scary/exciting/sexy sounding numbers and trumpeting them out. You have to take the extra step of actually understanding what the numbers mean.
Don't get me wrong, homicide rates raising at all is a problematic trend and one we should work to reverse. But catastrophizing it while simultaneously falsely praising the safety of the good old days is not helpful and can be quite problematic and toxic.
C'mon, TAMU - you're cherry picking with one (Austin) extremely fast growing city. How many others mentioned fit that profile? Chicago isn't growing but homicides are through the roof. The same is true with many other US cities. Bottom line? You made assumptions that fit what I'm sure is a preferred narrative. They don't square with the data.
You say from "what I've seen, there was a SMALL BLIP during the pandemic that is already reverting to the mean". Where did you see this? What's your source?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 09, 2022, 12:01:44 AM
C'mon, TAMU - you're cherry picking with one (Austin) extremely fast growing city. How many others mentioned fit that profile? Chicago isn't growing but homicides are through the roof. The same is true with many other US cities. Bottom line? You made assumptions that fit what I'm sure is a preferred narrative. They don't square with the data.
You say from "what I've seen, there was a SMALL BLIP during the pandemic that is already reverting to the mean". Where did you see this? What's your source?
No Lenny, I'm really not. I'm being honest and analyzing the data that you presented. You are the one who cherry picked a scary sounding headline that matched your narrative. I picked Austin because one of the articles you mentioned linked to another article focused on the homicide record in Austin. To show I'm telling the truth, I'll do the same exercise with the city you picked out, Chicago.
First, 2021 wasn't a record for total homicides in Chicago, that belongs to 1970, so unless Chicago shrunk (it didn't) it's already going to be a lower homicide rate.
1970: 974 murders for 7,106,000 people = 1 murder for every 7,295 people
2021: 797 murders for 8,877,000 people = 1 murder for every 11,138 people
And again, this isn't to minimize what's happening in Chicago and other cities. Any rise in homicide rate is bad and we should be working to reverse that trend. But the narrative that cities today are a war zone and cities back in the good old days were sunshine and rainbows doesn't help the discussion and in many cases derails it and gets in the way of actual progress.
Honestly, your response is a microcosm of how problematically dualistic our society has become. I presented you with data and rather than analyzing it and countering it with data of your own or a logical argument, you just assumed that I was pulling a fast one and accused me of fudging the numbers. We don't care about the truth anymore, we just care about our political team being correct. No one said it better than Rocket "I don't care what the numbers say, perception is reality". The statement is just profoundly sad
Lennys just a reads the headline but not the entire article?
Again, more like Chicos than he would like to admit.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 09, 2022, 12:35:51 AM
No Lenny, I'm really not. I'm being honest and analyzing the data that you presented. You are the one who cherry picked a scary sounding headline that matched your narrative. I picked Austin because one of the articles you mentioned linked to another article focused on the homicide record in Austin. To show I'm telling the truth, I'll do the same exercise with the city you picked out, Chicago.
First, 2021 wasn't a record for total homicides in Chicago, that belongs to 1970, so unless Chicago shrunk (it didn't) it's already going to be a lower homicide rate.
1970: 974 murders for 7,106,000 people = 1 murder for every 7,295 people
2021: 797 murders for 8,877,000 people = 1 murder for every 11,138 people
And again, this isn't to minimize what's happening in Chicago and other cities. Any rise in homicide rate is bad and we should be working to reverse that trend. But the narrative that cities today are a war zone and cities back in the good old days were sunshine and rainbows doesn't help the discussion and in many cases derails it and gets in the way of actual progress.
Honestly, your response is a microcosm of how problematically dualistic our society has become. I presented you with data and rather than analyzing it and countering it with data of your own or a logical argument, you just assumed that I was pulling a fast one and accused me of fudging the numbers. We don't care about the truth anymore, we just care about our political team being correct. No one said it better than Rocket "I don't care what the numbers say, perception is reality". The statement is just profoundly sad
LOL. First, I never said Chicago set a record for homicides. I said if had more murders committed than anytime in the last 25 years. Which is true. And that other cities set records. Which they did.
You still haven't addressed your initial response: "From what I've seen there was a small blip during the pandemic which was now reverting to the mean". Which is false. I ask you where you've seen/read such nonsense and you avoid the subject - because nobody on any side of the political spectrum has data that would support it. Rather than seeing it, I'd bet you've heard it. In the echo chamber where you live.
Quote from: Clarissa on April 09, 2022, 05:31:23 AM
Lennys just a reads the headline but not the entire article?
Again, more like Chicos than he would like to admit.
Clarissa
I had high hope for you upon your return to Scoop from your self imposed exile. But you're regressing into stalker mode. I know it's hard for you to quit me but unless you're able to recovery won't be possible. I'm honestly rooting for you.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 09, 2022, 08:14:08 AM
LOL. First, I never said Chicago set a record for homicides. I said if had more murders committed than anytime in the last 25 years. Which is true. And that other cities set records. Which they did.
You still haven't addressed your initial response: "From what I've seen there was a small blip during the pandemic which was now reverting to the mean". Which is false. I ask you where you've seen/read such nonsense and you avoid the subject - because nobody on any side of the political spectrum has data that would support it. Rather than seeing it, I'd bet you've heard it. In the echo chamber where you live.
Well first, you misquoted me. I said seems to be regressing not is regressing. It's early in 2022, in some cites like NYC and philly, murders are down. In some like Chicago they are on pace. In some like Houston they are up. We will see what the final result will be. Things could ramp up significantly and I could end up being very wrong.
I didn't say that you said that Chicago set a record. But I did make a point that despite higher total homicides in many cities in 2021, the homicide rate was still significantly lower than it was in the 70s and 80s and you responded by saying I was cherry picking and said what about Chicago? So I used Chicago to show that homicide rates are still lower than the 70s and 80s.
And for third time, that doesn't mean that the recent rise in homicides isn't a problem, we should be addressing it.
Do you have any thoughts on solutions?
Society in the US has been unravelling for a decade+. Of course crime is going up.
"Things are going to get unimaginably worse, and they are never, ever, going to get better." - Kurt Vonnegut.
Eat Arby's.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 09, 2022, 08:24:16 AM
Clarissa
I had high hope for you upon your return to Scoop from your self imposed exile. But you're regressing into stalker mode. I know it's hard for you to quit me but unless you're able to recovery won't be possible. I'm honestly rooting for you.
I'm stalking you by responding to your posts? 😂😂😂😂
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 09, 2022, 08:14:08 AM
You still haven't addressed your initial response: "From what I've seen there was a small blip during the pandemic which was now reverting to the mean". Which is false. I ask you where you've seen/read such nonsense and you avoid the subject - because nobody on any side of the political spectrum has data that would support it. Rather than seeing it, I'd bet you've heard it. In the echo chamber where you live.
There's no nationwide data on 2022 homicides that I can find (it's early April, after all), but there is data from several major cities.
Let's take a look at YTD homicides last year vs this year:
Chicago (as of April 1)
2021: 137
2022: 133
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.htm
New York (through April 3):
2021: 105
2022: 96
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs-en-us-city.pdf
Los Angeles (through April 2:
2021: 95
2022: 85
https://lapdonlinestrgeacc.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/lapdonlinemedia/2022/04/cityprof.pdf
Washington, DC (through April 8):
2021: 48
2022:45
https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance
Baltimore:
2021: 73
2022: 78
https://data.baltimorecity.gov/documents/police-department-baltimore-maryland-incident-report-4-5-2022/explore
Dallas (through April 7):
2021: 54
2022: 51
Milwaukee (through today, it seems):
2021: 38
2022: 55
https://city.milwaukee.gov/police/Information-Services/Crime-Maps-and-Statistics
Miami (through April 3)
2021:32
2022:15
https://www.miamidade.gov/police/library/part-1-crimes-ytd-comparison.pdf
Atlanta (through April 2)
2021: 30
2022: 43
https://www.atlantapd.org/home/showpublisheddocument/4738
Minneapolis (through April 8)
2021: 40
2022: 40
So, it seems based on the data, homicides have dipped in most major Metro areas here, though it's generally a mixed bag. Mostly, Milwaukee and Atlanta are ruining it for the rest of us.
Note: I either couldn't find or there were no YTD stats for Houston, Detroit, Boston, Phoenx and Philly (the Philly site was down), so if you can find those, great.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 07, 2022, 02:27:24 PM
"Is it possible that our high rate of incarceration contributes to the current level of crime? I think it is likely."
i disagree. i don't believe you can conflate the 2 here.
"So is negative reinforcement the only way to address crime? My personal experience is that threatening people into making good choices rarely works and rewarding people for making good choices is usually a lot more effective."
not the only way, but rewarding "is USUALLY a lot more effective"??
ok, some dude commits a crime so he can be rewarded for NOT doing it again?? to pay people NOT to do something that is wrong? hey, i didn't steal something today...pay me. i haven't raped anyone recently-better pay up or i might just have to lose all self control??
maybe in SOME cases, rewarding can be effective, but sounds like you do not like the idea of imprisonment. what do we do about those who make our society unsafe? don't we deserve to live safe without worry that our cars won't be taken from us? our women will not be raped? our children will not be abused?
i think we have instituted programs where prisoners of certain crimes can "earn" their way out by following certain set standards
we have f'd up our society to the point where crime has run rampant without regard for human life and property.
roQQet, you must be outraged that the former president issued pardons for criminals like Manafort, Stone, Flynn and Bannon, and that he already has said that if he's elected again he'll pardon the violent, seditionist felons who played a major role in injuring cops and attacking democracy during the deadly coup attempt against the U.S. government.
Quote from: Clarissa on April 09, 2022, 09:52:49 AM
I'm stalking you by responding to your posts? 😂😂😂😂
Have you emailed his HR department yet?
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on April 08, 2022, 05:51:39 PM
why don't you go fu#* yourself smith!! sick and tired of your bullschiff man!!
If you don't want to be called out, maybe try not to admit that facts are meaningless to you and your reality is whatever false narrative you wish it to be.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 09, 2022, 11:31:56 AM
There's no nationwide data on 2022 homicides that I can find (it's early April, after all), but there is data from several major cities.
Let's take a look at YTD homicides last year vs this year:
Chicago (as of April 1)
2021: 137
2022: 133
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.htm
New York (through April 3):
2021: 105
2022: 96
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs-en-us-city.pdf
Los Angeles (through April 2:
2021: 95
2022: 85
https://lapdonlinestrgeacc.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/lapdonlinemedia/2022/04/cityprof.pdf
Washington, DC (through April 8):
2021: 48
2022:45
https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance
Baltimore:
2021: 73
2022: 78
https://data.baltimorecity.gov/documents/police-department-baltimore-maryland-incident-report-4-5-2022/explore
Dallas (through April 7):
2021: 54
2022: 51
Milwaukee (through today, it seems):
2021: 38
2022: 55
https://city.milwaukee.gov/police/Information-Services/Crime-Maps-and-Statistics
Miami (through April 3)
2021:32
2022:15
https://www.miamidade.gov/police/library/part-1-crimes-ytd-comparison.pdf
Atlanta (through April 2)
2021: 30
2022: 43
https://www.atlantapd.org/home/showpublisheddocument/4738
Minneapolis (through April 8)
2021: 40
2022: 40
So, it seems based on the data, homicides have dipped in most major Metro areas here, though it's generally a mixed bag. Mostly, Milwaukee and Atlanta are ruining it for the rest of us.
Note: I either couldn't find or there were no YTD stats for Houston, Detroit, Boston, Phoenx and Philly (the Philly site was down), so if you can find those, great.
If this is "reverting to the mean" no need for stronger gun laws
Quote from: wadesworld on April 09, 2022, 01:45:02 PM
Have you emailed his HR department yet?
Never forget how pathetic the meat lovers are. They will contact your HR department if you don't agree with them.
Hey Lenny,
Lay off my guy, Sultan!!
Quote from: Goose on April 09, 2022, 04:43:33 PM
Hey Lenny,
Lay off my guy, Sultan!!
Hey Lenny's guardian is here!!
Sultan,
You are my guy, I'm watching out for you.
Quote from: Clarissa on April 09, 2022, 09:52:49 AM
I'm stalking you by responding to your posts? 😂😂😂😂
You didn't respond to my post. You interjected yourself into a back and forth between TAMU and myself to talk sh!t about me. You do this a lot where I'm concerned and it's always the same tired, stupid, unfunny stuff. I'm old, losing it or I'm Chicos. Pathetic stalking, but you can't seem to help yourself. I honestly feel sorry for you.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 09, 2022, 01:45:02 PM
Have you emailed his HR department yet?
Never had one - I worked for myself.
But I would never do that to anyone who did have one.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 09, 2022, 09:29:17 AM
Well first, you misquoted me.
Here is your direct quote "What I've SEEN is that there was a SMALL spike during the pandemic that seems to be regressing to the mean already"
Where did you SEE information that the spike in homicides was SMALL? On what do you base your stance that the numbers already seem to be regressing to the mean?
This is the third time I've asked. So far, crickets.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 09, 2022, 11:31:56 AM
There's no nationwide data on 2022 homicides that I can find (it's early April, after all), but there is data from several major cities.
Let's take a look at YTD homicides last year vs this year:
Chicago (as of April 1)
2021: 137
2022: 133
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.htm
New York (through April 3):
2021: 105
2022: 96
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs-en-us-city.pdf
Los Angeles (through April 2:
2021: 95
2022: 85
https://lapdonlinestrgeacc.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/lapdonlinemedia/2022/04/cityprof.pdf
Washington, DC (through April 8):
2021: 48
2022:45
https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance
Baltimore:
2021: 73
2022: 78
https://data.baltimorecity.gov/documents/police-department-baltimore-maryland-incident-report-4-5-2022/explore
Dallas (through April 7):
2021: 54
2022: 51
Milwaukee (through today, it seems):
2021: 38
2022: 55
https://city.milwaukee.gov/police/Information-Services/Crime-Maps-and-Statistics
Miami (through April 3)
2021:32
2022:15
https://www.miamidade.gov/police/library/part-1-crimes-ytd-comparison.pdf
Atlanta (through April 2)
2021: 30
2022: 43
https://www.atlantapd.org/home/showpublisheddocument/4738
Minneapolis (through April 8)
2021: 40
2022: 40
So, it seems based on the data, homicides have dipped in most major Metro areas here, though it's generally a mixed bag. Mostly, Milwaukee and Atlanta are ruining it for the rest of us.
Note: I either couldn't find or there were no YTD stats for Houston, Detroit, Boston, Phoenx and Philly (the Philly site was down), so if you can find those, great.
Pak,
Thank you for the 2022 numbers for some of our major cities. Of the 10 you quote, 6 down, 3 up and 1 flat. Total # of homicides dropped from 652 to 641, a drop of less than 1.7% - sadly more or a rounding error than an indication of a regression to the mean. Hope that changes.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 09, 2022, 07:08:15 PM
You didn't respond to my post. You interjected yourself into a back and forth between TAMU and myself to talk sh!t about me. You do this a lot where I'm concerned and it's always the same tired, stupid, unfunny stuff. I'm old, losing it or I'm Chicos. Pathetic stalking, but you can't seem to help yourself. I honestly feel sorry for you.
I call out stupidity. It's a curse!!!
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 09, 2022, 07:35:29 PM
Pak,
Thank you for the 2022 numbers for some of our major cities. Of the 10 you quote, 6 down, 3 up and 1 flat. Total # of homicides dropped from 652 to 641, a drop of less than 1.7% - sadly more or a rounding error than an indication of a regression to the mean. Hope that changes.
And yet combimed with the overall crime rayes, t's more evidence that we experienced a pandemic blip that any sort of societal/cultural shift, no?
There's also lots of data showing that a good portion of the increase in homicides is a result of domestic violence, further supporting the idea that it's pandemic-related and not the kind of scaremongering some are trying to suggest.
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/editorials/domestic-violence-guns-sheriff-police-act-79-20220131.html?outputType=amp
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2021/10/05/domestic-violence-murders-surge-pandemic-children-ohio-shelters-survivors-violence-guns-homicide/5932121001/
https://gazette.com/dg-print/pandemic-fueled-domestic-violence-leads-to-homicide-spike-in-colorados-largest-cities-copy/article_51070694-52b9-11eb-9753-73c97fb17721.html
Hope future numbers prove your hypothesis correct. Domestic violence uptick was to be expected with lockdowns but they have been in our rear view mirror for quite a while.
Time will tell.
Pakuni
I believe your stats on MKE are inaccurate, you used 2020 number of 38 vs 2021 number of 30 murders YTD. MKE is up 83% in murders in 2022. It might just be me, but I find that troubling.
Quote from: Goose on April 10, 2022, 08:47:22 AM
Pakuni
I believe your stats on MKE are inaccurate, you used 2020 number of 38 vs 2021 number of 30 murders YTD. MKE is up 83% in murders in 2022. It might just be me, but I find that troubling.
You're right.
It should be 30 to 55, not 38 to 55. I misread the column.
Doesn't change anything, though, right? Homicides do seem to be trending down in most places. Milwaukee, along with a few others (Atlanta, among them) seem to be exceptions.
Interesting story here on the reasons behind the surge in homicide in Milwaukee, for those who want to learn something.
https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2022/03/24/whats-driving-milwaukees-homicide-rate/
Quote from: Pakuni on April 10, 2022, 09:15:09 AM
Interesting story here on the reasons behind the surge in homicide in Milwaukee, for those who want to learn something.
https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2022/03/24/whats-driving-milwaukees-homicide-rate/
That's an interesting, sobering, in-depth look at what's been going on in Milwaukee.
While they are still gathering data and trying to analyze it, the number of murders and violent gun crimes have tracked along similar lines to Wisconsin laws that have made it easier to get guns. There also are a variety of other societal issues at work.
As an adjunct, I just took a quick look at Marquette's enrollment over the last decade or so.
Even though, as the article states, murders and other violent and/or gun crime increased substantially in Milwaukee in 2015, the data would suggest there was no material affect on Marquette enrollment in the years that followed. It was essentially flat over the next few years before hitting an all-time high of 11,819 in 2019-20; the pandemic arrived late in that school year.
So far, at least, increased crime does not seem to have affected Marquette enrollment. If things get worse, it obviously could. But crime happens in big cities -- a fact that parents are well aware of when they agree to send their kids to NYU, Georgetown, USC, UCLA, Arizona State, U of Chicago, Boston College, Washington, Temple, Miami, Minnesota, Marquette, etc, etc, etc.
This is not saying "crime is OK" or "increased crime doesn't matter." We all wish there were no crime.
Can't believe I'm adding to this thread, but I just got an email from my son's high school that shots were fired from a vehicle traveling eastbound on Wisconsin. It won't make me question sending them to Marquette High School, but I will remind them to be on their game at night (anytime really) going to their car or the local grade school for service.
You can be all you want on your game, but bullets don't give no chit, aina?
So we need billions more bullets and millions more guns. Because America will not be safe until every man, woman and child has a couple dozen guns, nu?
Imagine how safe that'd make Marquette's campus!
How safe would campus be if only criminals had guns? Its time logic and not emotion was added to the discussion. Millions of people legally and lawfully own guns and daily do not commit crimes. look at statistics for murders with knives, baseball bats, hammers etc. there are violent humans and laws do not deter them.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 14, 2022, 10:37:26 AM
How safe would campus be if only criminals had guns? Its time logic and not emotion was added to the discussion. Millions of people legally and lawfully own guns and daily do not commit crimes. look at statistics for murders with knives, baseball bats, hammers etc. there are violent humans and laws do not deter them.
That's why I speed and don't wear a seat belt. Suck on that, libs
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 14, 2022, 10:37:26 AM
How safe would campus be if only criminals had guns? Its time logic and not emotion was added to the discussion. Millions of people legally and lawfully own guns and daily do not commit crimes. look at statistics for murders with knives, baseball bats, hammers etc. there are violent humans and laws do not deter them.
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Quote from: JWags85 on March 25, 2022, 04:22:14 PM
I once got my debit card skimmed from an actual bank ATM in Chicago. That was super fun
The only crime here is that you're still using cash. Boomers.... ::)
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 14, 2022, 10:37:26 AM
How safe would campus be if only criminals had guns? Its time logic and not emotion was added to the discussion. Millions of people legally and lawfully own guns and daily do not commit crimes. look at statistics for murders with knives, baseball bats, hammers etc. there are violent humans and laws do not deter them.
Wells,
Could you point out the last time you saw a news report about a child killed while walking down the street by a stray knife intended for someone else? Or a senior citizen beaten to death in his or her home by an errant baseball bat?
Or maybe the last time a child got a hold of his dad's tool box and accidentally hammered himself to death?
Portraying guns as "just another weapon" like a knife or baseball bat is criminally stupid.
And yeah, let's look at the statistics.
In 2020, 13,663 Americans were murdered with a firearm. All other causes combined - knives, blunt objects, arson, poisoning, beating, etc. - totaled 4,150.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
Quote from: UWW2MU on April 14, 2022, 11:11:35 AM
The only crime here is that you're still using cash. Boomers.... ::)
It was in 2012. And you think I'm a boomer? LOLZ. Maybe stick to Hanging at the Al
Quote from: JWags85 on April 14, 2022, 11:26:33 AM
It was in 2012. And you think I'm a boomer? LOLZ. Maybe stick to Hanging at the Al
Foxworthy voice: You may be a boomer if... you used an atm as recently as 2012
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 14, 2022, 11:34:12 AM
Foxworthy voice: You may be a boomer if... you used an atm as recently as 2012
Swing and a miss
Quote from: JWags85 on April 14, 2022, 11:26:33 AM
It was in 2012. And you think I'm a boomer? LOLZ. Maybe stick to Hanging at the Al
If it acts like a boomer and does things like use ATMs like a boomer, then it's got the soul of a boomer. ;)
Quote from: UWW2MU on April 14, 2022, 11:11:35 AM
The only crime here is that you're still using cash. Boomers.... ::)
Does the "entertainment" take ApplePay now?
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 14, 2022, 12:11:11 PM
Does the "entertainment" take ApplePay now?
Saw a dancer with a Square unit between her cheeks once.
10 years ago...
-pre-UberX in Chicago and the height cabs still trying to fight credit card usage at any turn.
-plenty of dive bars and other late night haunts were cash only. Or cover at smaller music venues
-doormen, cleaning services, and delivery guys didn't all have a Square reader or Venmo.
But a 26 year old going to an ATM then was classic boomer behavior, LOLZ. I call complete and utter BS that many people have been completely cashless for a decade plus in this country.
Quote from: JWags85 on April 14, 2022, 12:57:28 PM
10 years ago...
-pre-UberX in Chicago and the height cabs still trying to fight credit card usage at any turn.
-plenty of dive bars and other late night haunts were cash only. Or cover at smaller music venues
-doormen, cleaning services, and delivery guys didn't all have a Square reader or Venmo.
But a 26 year old going to an ATM then was classic boomer behavior, LOLZ. I call complete and utter BS that many people have been completely cashless for a decade plus in this country.
Fiat currency, lol
Quote from: MU82 on April 12, 2022, 09:25:41 PM
So we need billions more bullets and millions more guns. Because America will not be safe until every man, woman and child has a couple dozen guns, nu?
Imagine how safe that'd make Marquette's campus!
You don't have the stomach for what it would really take to effectively stop or at least radically reduce gun violence in the USA. Maybe nobody does. Maybe the cost would be too high. But as long as that is true the rest of this stuff is mostly noise. Collateral damage or not, the law abiding gun owners aren't giving up their weapons as long as the bad guys have theirs.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 14, 2022, 01:20:42 PM
You don't have the stomach for what it would really take to effectively stop or at least radically reduce gun violence in the USA. Maybe nobody does.
Do tell ...
Quote from: Pakuni on April 14, 2022, 01:27:27 PM
Do tell ...
The playbook
https://observer.com/2016/03/must-pack-heat-the-case-for-mandating-gun-ownership/ (https://observer.com/2016/03/must-pack-heat-the-case-for-mandating-gun-ownership/)
Quote from: JWags85 on April 14, 2022, 12:57:28 PM
10 years ago...
-pre-UberX in Chicago and the height cabs still trying to fight credit card usage at any turn.
-plenty of dive bars and other late night haunts were cash only. Or cover at smaller music venues
-doormen, cleaning services, and delivery guys didn't all have a Square reader or Venmo.
But a 26 year old going to an ATM then was classic boomer behavior, LOLZ. I call complete and utter BS that many people have been completely cashless for a decade plus in this country.
Imagine taking criticism on muscoop literally
Quote from: JWags85 on April 14, 2022, 12:57:28 PM
10 years ago...
-pre-UberX in Chicago and the height cabs still trying to fight credit card usage at any turn.
-plenty of dive bars and other late night haunts were cash only. Or cover at smaller music venues
-doormen, cleaning services, and delivery guys didn't all have a Square reader or Venmo.
But a 26 year old going to an ATM then was classic boomer behavior, LOLZ. I call complete and utter BS that many people have been completely cashless for a decade plus in this country.
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Ugh, you take the fun out of it if you make me explain that 1. The original post you didn't say 2012 and 2. that it was just a joke.
Quote from: UWW2MU on April 14, 2022, 02:22:35 PM
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Ugh, you take the fun out of it if you make me explain that 1. The original post you didn't say 2012 and 2. that it was just a joke.
Sorry for taking all the raucous fun out of such a clever and witty joke about a post from 3 weeks ago. Mea Culpa
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on April 14, 2022, 12:20:11 PM
Saw a dancer with a Square unit between her cheeks once.
Yeah, da reel problem, doe, is watt is printed on da Master Card statement as da vendor, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 14, 2022, 03:12:58 PM
Yeah, da reel problem, doe, is watt is printed on da Master Card statement as da vendor, hey?
I stole tsmith's card. Only had a $300 limit, but still was fun.
Be careful out there.QuoteSidewalks below Chase Tower closed
High winds in Milwaukee damaged the glassy exterior of the downtown Chase Tower, prompting police to close sidewalks in the area as glass fell from 15 floors up.Milwaukee police reported the incident around 1:30 p.m. Thursday, asking the public to avoid the 100 block of East Wisconsin Avenue after the window broke. Police said sidewalks surrounding the building would be shut down and officers would assist in directing traffic.
MUPD investigating racist poster displayed on public light pole
Marquette University is aware that a racist poster was found displayed on a public light pole on campus along Wisconsin Ave., and it has been removed. As a Catholic, Jesuit institution, we are called to build a nurturing, inclusive community where all people feel safe, supported, welcomed and celebrated. Racism and discrimination have no place on our campus.
The Marquette University Police Department has launched an investigation to determine the parties responsible. Although this poster was found on our campus, at this time we do not know who is responsible for posting it. Please contact MUPD at 414-288-6800 if you have information about this incident.
UPDATE: MUPD investigation of stickers on public light poles
Yesterday evening, MUPD removed a second 4x6-inch sticker with a different image from a public light pole on Wisconsin Avenue near Johnston Hall. The second sticker – which also appears to be a historical drawing and may be related to the first sticker – depicts a Caucasian female in a medieval device meant to prevent speech. Without a suspect at this time, the university cannot speculate on the meaning or intent behind the images, or if the person responsible is a member of the Marquette community. MUPD has inspected all campus light poles and no other stickers have been found. Officers will continue to search for a suspect and monitor for suspicious behavior. Please contact MUPD at 414-288-6800 if you have any information.
keep us posted, Doc.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 04, 2022, 01:32:40 PM
UPDATE: MUPD investigation of stickers on public light poles
Yesterday evening, MUPD removed a second 4x6-inch sticker with a different image from a public light pole on Wisconsin Avenue near Johnston Hall. The second sticker – which also appears to be a historical drawing and may be related to the first sticker – depicts a Caucasian female in a medieval device meant to prevent speech. Without a suspect at this time, the university cannot speculate on the meaning or intent behind the images, or if the person responsible is a member of the Marquette community. MUPD has inspected all campus light poles and no other stickers have been found. Officers will continue to search for a suspect and monitor for suspicious behavior. Please contact MUPD at 414-288-6800 if you have any information.
Any word if the woman portrayed was Armenian, Georgian, or Azerbaijani? Inquiring minds want to know.
For anyone who is too dim to get it — they were stickers highlighting the current political movements to silence blacks and women, like in the colonial era. Called "metaphor," if you skipped your Lit pre-reqs. Keep us posted.
I assume 4ever was celebrating this
Just got back from a naked run down Wisconsin Ave., hey?
Quote from: tower912 on May 04, 2022, 06:36:51 PM
I assume 4ever was celebrating this
is that a corollary to luke 6:45 ?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 04, 2022, 06:40:33 PM
Just got back from a naked run down Wisconsin Ave., hey?
hate to break this to ya doc, but when we run nekid today, one way to make an area crime free-ain't no one gonna want to see old mens tea bags flailing away in the breeze and nothing in my wallet
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 04, 2022, 06:40:33 PM
Just got back from a naked run down Wisconsin Ave., hey?
Was Madison Cawthron there with you?
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on May 04, 2022, 06:50:54 PM
is that a corollary to luke:45 ?
Is that like Colt .45? The verse is irrelevant without chapter.
If I were you, I would refresh yourself on the whole 'not bearing false witness' thing.
Quote from: tower912 on May 04, 2022, 08:41:24 PM
Is that like Colt .45? The verse is irrelevant without chapter.
If I were you, I would refresh yourself on the whole 'not bearing false witness' thing.
so now you are into judgment things? you don't know jack, tower
You gave what I have to guess is a bible verse. You gave it incompletely. Yes, I judged you on your inability to properly quote the bible. Just like I have formed an opinion about you based on your conspiracy theories and snake oil promotion.
And I have a few friends named Jack.
Not to mention that Luke only has 24 chapters.
Quote from: tower912 on May 05, 2022, 10:38:51 AM
You gave what I have to guess is a bible verse. You gave it incompletely. Yes, I judged you on your inability to properly quote the bible. Just like I have formed an opinion about you based on your conspiracy theories and snake oil promotion.
And I have a few friends named Jack.
fixed the typo for those of you from rio linda...took it from your truly "inspirational" quote bottom of your posts father tower
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on May 05, 2022, 10:48:46 AM
fixed the typo for those of you from rio linda...took it from your truly "inspirational" quote bottom of your posts father tower
Why would you have a problem with that verse?
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on May 05, 2022, 10:48:46 AM
fixed the typo for those of you from rio linda...took it from your truly "inspirational" quote bottom of your posts father tower
8 of 10
Pretty good work here. Ellipses, air quotes and a complete misunderstanding of what you're discussing. No shots at the media or liberals, however, means only an 8.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2022, 11:20:08 AM
8 of 10
Pretty good work here. Ellipses, air quotes and a complete misunderstanding of what you're discussing. No shots at the media or liberals, however, means only an 8.
Do you have like a GCS for rocket's posting? 1 point if this appears, another if this appears. Pretty solid work.
Quote from: wadesworld on May 05, 2022, 11:35:04 AM
Do you have like a GCS for rocket's posting? 1 point if this appears, another if this appears. Pretty solid work.
There are certain parameters I look for in his work but the scale is flexible depending on the irrationality of the post in question
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2022, 11:41:42 AM
There are certain parameters I look for in his work but the scale is flexible depending on the irrationality of the post in question
And like a good Soviet-era figure staking judge, are completely open to bribery.
Quote from: Clarissa on May 05, 2022, 10:54:12 AM
Why would you have a problem with that verse?
never said i had a problem with it
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2022, 11:41:42 AM
There are certain parameters I look for in his work but the scale is flexible depending on the irrationality of the post in question
cuz reeko is the absolute bastion of all things...ho boy
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on May 05, 2022, 12:12:01 PM
never said i had a problem with it
Then why put "inspirational" in quotes?
Quote from: Clarissa on May 05, 2022, 12:18:00 PM
Then why put "inspirational" in quotes?
You know the answer. It's the same answer as usual.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 05, 2022, 12:24:11 PM
You know the answer. It's the same answer as usual.
He has no idea what quotes signify?
Quote from: Clarissa on May 05, 2022, 12:18:00 PM
Then why put "inspirational" in quotes?
One of the side effects of horse medicine is improper quotes usage
Quote from: Clarissa on May 05, 2022, 12:25:17 PM
He has no idea what quotes signify?
Close enough for me.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on May 05, 2022, 10:48:46 AM
fixed the typo for those of you from rio linda...took it from your truly "inspirational" quote bottom of your posts father tower
That is great of you. Keep posting from your heart's abundance
Quote from: Clarissa on May 05, 2022, 12:18:00 PM
Then why put "inspirational" in quotes?
yeah pa ta da duh and i don't even know what figure "staking" judges are either...pa ta da duh...can't fool me cuz i'm too stupid...pa ta da duhhhhh, yeah don't know how deez dentists even made it tru skool duhhh while you brainiacs put us into a probable stagflation economy. you're all the smart ones in the room no doubt
"inspirational" in quotes signifies the virtue signaling facade tower tries to convey. it may be "inspirational" for him if he truly believes it. ya see "inspirational" to tower means something totally different from what many of us believe
ok, cue in fluffy as i'm sure his scoop buzzer is going red alert by now
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on May 05, 2022, 04:16:19 PM
"inspirational" in quotes signifies the virtue signaling facade tower tries to convey.
Quoting Jesus = virtue signaling ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on May 05, 2022, 04:16:19 PM
yeah pa ta da duh and i don't even know what figure "staking" judges are either...pa ta da duh...can't fool me cuz i'm too stupid...pa ta da duhhhhh, yeah don't know how deez dentists even made it tru skool duhhh while you brainiacs put us into a probable stagflation economy. you're all the smart ones in the room no doubt
"inspirational" in quotes signifies the virtue signaling facade tower tries to convey. it may be "inspirational" for him if he truly believes it. ya see "inspirational" to tower means something totally different from what many of us believe
ok, cue in fluffy as i'm sure his scoop buzzer is going red alert by now
Solid 9 out of 10. Really hit some great notes with this one. Virtue signaling in tower's signature is fantastic. All over the radar in the original paragraph with no coherent thought. If you had added ice cream or Joy Behar, you'd have gotten a 10.
Quote from: Clarissa on May 05, 2022, 04:18:27 PM
Quoting Jesus = virtue signaling ::) ::) ::)
that's one way to spin this fluffer, you and tower play footsie too?
::)
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2022, 05:24:01 PM
Solid 9 out of 10. Really hit some great notes with this one. Virtue signaling in tower's signature is fantastic. All over the radar in the original paragraph with no coherent thought. If you had added ice cream or Joy Behar, you'd have gotten a 10.
Speaking of Joy, she wants women to go on a sex strike for abortion rights.
Pretty sure she's been on strike for a while.
I appreciate rocket bringing up my signature and going out of his way to show the truth in it.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 05, 2022, 06:00:26 PM
Speaking of Joy, she wants women to go on a sex strike for abortion rights.
Pretty sure she's been on strike for a while.
i don't know, doesn't whoopie count? otherwise, YES. joyless should be on a poster for birth control anyway
Eye'll take a pass. Got my scruples, aina?
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: City of Milwaukee curfew for those under 21
Incident location: Vel R. Phillips Avenue on the west, N. Broadway on the east, W. McKinley Avenue/E. Knapp Street on the north and State Street on the south
Approximate time: Saturday, May 14, and Sunday, May 15
Victims: N/A
Physical injuries: N/A
Due to the events last night, Milwaukee Mayor Cavalier Johnson announced this afternoon that there will be a city of Milwaukee curfew for individuals under the age of 21 in the geographical area from Vel R. Phillips Avenue on the west, N. Broadway on the east, W. McKinley Avenue/E. Knapp Street on the north and State Street on the south. The curfew will be in effect for Saturday, May 14, 2022, between 11:00 p.m., until 5:30 a.m., on Sunday, May 15, 2022. Curfew will also be in effect for Sunday. May 15, 2022, at 11:00 p.m., until 5:30 a.m., on Monday, May 16, 2022.
MUPD will have additional officers this evening and reminds the campus community to be aware of this curfew with your weekend plans.
Underclassmen need to spend their evening at the library or chapel.
Just like we used to.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shots fired
Incident location: 18th Street and West State Street
Approximate time: 3 p.m.
Victims: N/A
Physical injuries: N/A
The Marquette University Police Department responded to a fight that broke out among non-Marquette affiliated individuals near 18th Street and West State Street; witnesses on scene reported that shots were fired. MUPD recovered evidence of a discharged firearm. No physical injuries were reported, and no damage was reported in the area. There are no suspect or vehicle descriptions at this time. MUPD is assisting the Milwaukee Police Department with the investigation.
I fired down lots of shots at State and 13th. Always enjoyed State House.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Attempted theft of a vehicle; assault
Incident location: 17th Street and W. Kilbourn Ave.
Approximate time: 1 p.m.
Victims: One male, not Marquette affiliated
Physical injuries: Victim was struck but did not report any serious injuries
A non-Marquette affiliated individual attempted to intervene when he witnessed a non-Marquette affiliated suspect attempting to steal a vehicle and was struck by the suspect who fled on foot. The suspect was last seen near 26th St. and W. Michigan St. The victim reported no serious injuries. MUPD is assisting the Milwaukee Police Department with the investigation.
This update is available online and will be updated with new information if and when it becomes available. To keep MUPD dispatch lines open for emergencies and police operations, please do not call MUPD to ask for additional information.
Please note that race, ethnicity, gender and/or religious affiliation are NOT considered the basis for suspicion; only behaviors are considered suspicious.
The purpose of this warning is to aid in the prevention of similar crimes by alerting the community about the incident and to provide information that allows individuals to make informed decisions about their personal safety.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 20, 2022, 04:06:17 PM
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shots fired
Incident location: 18th Street and West State Street
Approximate time: 3 p.m.
Victims: N/A
Physical injuries: N/A
The Marquette University Police Department responded to a fight that broke out among non-Marquette affiliated individuals near 18th Street and West State Street; witnesses on scene reported that shots were fired. MUPD recovered evidence of a discharged firearm. No physical injuries were reported, and no damage was reported in the area. There are no suspect or vehicle descriptions at this time. MUPD is assisting the Milwaukee Police Department with the investigation.
Lenny's Tap was on the southeast corner of 18th and State. Dive Bar by day, combination college/bum bar after sundown. Gritty but never violent.
Safety Update: Suspect in custody, stolen vehicle recovered from July 27 armed robbery
A suspect has been taken into custody by the Milwaukee Police Department and the stolen vehicle has been recovered from the July 27 armed robbery that was reported to the Marquette University Police Department and shared with campus via a Safety Alert text and email. Marquette University is grateful for the responsiveness and professionalism displayed by MUPD and its partner agencies.
Kia or Hyundai?
Jeeez. Less crime than my neighborhood. I should move back when I retire.
And you aren't kidding about the Hyundai/Kia thing. Talk about a design flaw. Actually making me put them back on my 'will never buy' list
Quote from: tower912 on July 28, 2022, 04:00:59 PM
Jeeez. Less crime than my neighborhood. I should move back when I retire.
And you aren't kidding about the Hyundai/Kia thing. Talk about a design flaw. Actually making me put them back on my 'will never buy' list
Anyone parking those on the street downtown are simply foolish. Know a lot of owners who had them stolen
Nephew had his stolen 3x while at MU.
Guy from work had one stolen in a church lot during a wedding in Mke. Cops just laughed at him...literally.
Friend had Kia rental stolen by Hilton downtown.
One stolen from work parking lot in broad daylight
Here, there is a group of teenagers who know the easy way to hot wire Kia/Hyundai's. It takes about 30 seconds. Around here, they joyride with them until they run out of gas and then abandon them. Regionally, a couple of dozen a day.
Dozens a day here.
If you watch Sheriff Bob on his live broadcast, he Is always looking for stolen Kia's.
Isn't hotwiring a Kia a one of those ticketytock challenges?
Quote from: lawdog77 on July 29, 2022, 05:39:40 AM
Isn't hotwiring a Kia a one of those ticketytock challenges?
It definitely was at one point.
Last year MUPD gave out free Clubs to students who had Hyndais and Kias.
Quote from: warriorchick on July 29, 2022, 09:24:11 AM
Last year MUPD gave out free Clubs to students who had Hyndais and Kias.
I can't comprehend why anyone with a Kia or Hyundai doesn't have a Club, free or not. It's about 50x less expensive than having your car stolen.
Maybe the Club-less want their car stolen so they can get a new car?
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on July 29, 2022, 09:49:57 AM
I can't comprehend why anyone with a Kia or Hyundai doesn't have a Club, free or not. It's about 50x less expensive than having your car stolen.
Maybe the Club-less want their car stolen so they can get a new car?
This was when it was first happening. Also, when it comes to basic theft protection stupid kids will be stupid kids. Same ones who leave their laptops unattended while they go to the bathroom at Starbucks.
Quote from: warriorchick on July 29, 2022, 10:12:57 AM
This was when it was first happening. Also, when it comes to basic theft protection stupid kids will be stupid kids. Same ones who leave their laptops unattended while they go to the bathroom at Starbucks.
with all due respect, implying that *only* locking one's car (which likely has a factory installed alarm/anti-theft device) is the equivalent to leaving a laptop unaccompanied in a public place is the classic "blame the victim." This isn't leaving valuables visible and then complaining about getting broken into. Besides, it isn't like "the Club" is 100% effective. In fact, thieves laugh at them.
https://freakonomics.com/2010/06/what-car-thieves-think-of-the-club/
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/steering-wheel-locks-prevent-car-theft/
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on July 29, 2022, 11:14:36 AM
with all due respect, implying that *only* locking one's car (which likely has a factory installed alarm/anti-theft device) is the equivalent to leaving a laptop unaccompanied in a public place is the classic "blame the victim." This isn't leaving valuables visible and then complaining about getting broken into. Besides, it isn't like "the Club" is 100% effective. In fact, thieves laugh at them.
https://freakonomics.com/2010/06/what-car-thieves-think-of-the-club/
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/steering-wheel-locks-prevent-car-theft/
I was going to say, I've talked to a police officer who has mentioned a few times it is more for show than anything.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on July 29, 2022, 11:14:36 AM
with all due respect, implying that *only* locking one's car (which likely has a factory installed alarm/anti-theft device) is the equivalent to leaving a laptop unaccompanied in a public place is the classic "blame the victim." This isn't leaving valuables visible and then complaining about getting broken into. Besides, it isn't like "the Club" is 100% effective. In fact, thieves laugh at them.
https://freakonomics.com/2010/06/what-car-thieves-think-of-the-club/
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/steering-wheel-locks-prevent-car-theft/
I don't think Chick was implying anything of the sort. She was saying that many at that age don't even secure their laptops when in a public place (a lower level of property protection) so expecting them to buy clubs for their cars (a higher level of property protection) isn't prudent. I don't think she was implying anything about it being the victim's fault.
That being said, you are right about clubs not being an effective deterrent.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 29, 2022, 11:42:03 AM
I don't think Chick was implying anything of the sort. She was saying that many at that age don't even secure their laptops when in a public place (a lower level of property protection) so expecting them to buy clubs for their cars (a higher level of property protection) isn't prudent. I don't think she was implying anything about it being the victim's fault.
This.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 28, 2022, 04:12:23 PM
Anyone parking those on the street downtown are simply foolish. Know a lot of owners who had them stolen
I have a Hyundai Elantra and parked on the street downtown prior to hearing about all the vehicle thefts. Luckily, I have a push to start, but that didn't stop the guy from smashing my window and trying to steal it. Wish he would have glanced inside first to save us both some trouble.
Quote from: BM1090 on July 29, 2022, 12:24:08 PM
I have a Hyundai Elantra and parked on the street downtown prior to hearing about all the vehicle thefts. Luckily, I have a push to start, but that didn't stop the guy from smashing my window and trying to steal it. Wish he would have glanced inside first to save us both some trouble.
My old roommate in Chicago had his car broken into. What, I assume, they thought was a wallet on the passenger seat was an old book of CDs. The irony is they used a Callaway driver to smash in the window and it broke and they left it in the car. The driver was worth 5x more than anything they would have stole from the inside and 20x more expensive than the lone charger they stole. They didn't even attempt to steal the car itself.
i've got an idea...how about we make stealing cars a crime and put those who partake in such activity in jail/prison. maybe even add carjacking to that list. rather than walking these punks thru the police station out the back door. throw them in jail with a real bond until their hearing then throw em in prison for 5-10 real years. i don't care how old they are
once word goes around, they'll have to find a new hobby...maybe even go to school or a real job
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on July 29, 2022, 01:39:55 PM
i've got an idea...how about we make stealing cars a crime and put those who partake in such activity in jail/prison. maybe even add carjacking to that list. rather than walking these punks thru the police station out the back door. throw them in jail with a real bond until their hearing then throw em in prison for 5-10 real years. i don't care how old they are
once word goes around, they'll have to find a new hobby...maybe even go to school or a real job
You constantly advocate for locking people up despite all evidence to the contrary that it is effective.
Stick to teeth, bucko.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on July 29, 2022, 05:13:47 PM
You constantly advocate for locking people up despite all evidence to the contrary that it is effective.
Stick to teeth, bucko.
I've been told laws don't stop criminals anyway
This just in:
Marquette's enrollment just went down to zero.
Sad.
It had a good run, aina?
Quote from: BM1090 on July 29, 2022, 12:24:08 PM
I have a Hyundai Elantra and parked on the street downtown prior to hearing about all the vehicle thefts. Luckily, I have a push to start, but that didn't stop the guy from smashing my window and trying to steal it. Wish he would have glanced inside first to save us both some trouble.
From what I've read/seen, push to start doesn't matter at all. You may still want additional security.
RE: Clubs. They certainly can be defeated, as can most "security devices". But they are effective at not making your ride the easiest to steal vs. the others.
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on July 29, 2022, 01:39:55 PM
i've got an idea...how about we make stealing cars a crime and put those who partake in such activity in jail/prison. maybe even add carjacking to that list. rather than walking these punks thru the police station out the back door. throw them in jail with a real bond until their hearing then throw em in prison for 5-10 real years. i don't care how old they are
once word goes around, they'll have to find a new hobby...maybe even go to school or a real job
*checks criminal laws*
Huh
*wonders how roqqet remembers to breathe*
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on July 29, 2022, 11:14:36 AM
Besides, it isn't like "the Club" is 100% effective. In fact, thieves laugh at them.
https://freakonomics.com/2010/06/what-car-thieves-think-of-the-club/
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/steering-wheel-locks-prevent-car-theft/
I read those. They hired "professional" car thieves to learn their tricks.
The "Kia Boys" miscreants are not pros, they are opportunistic joy-riding kids (who should be locked up.)
At worst, a Club is going to have half+ of cars skipped, and the remainder is going to take an extra few minutes to cut thru, *IF* these a-holes remembered to change the blades on their hacksaw.
Quote from: TSmith34 on July 30, 2022, 08:25:17 AM
*checks criminal laws*
Huh
*wonders how roqqet remembers to breathe*
Definitely thru his mouth.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on July 29, 2022, 10:36:02 PM
From what I've read/seen, push to start doesn't matter at all. You may still want additional security.
RE: Clubs. They certainly can be defeated, as can most "security devices". But they are effective at not making your ride the easiest to steal vs. the others.
This. In fact, they are an effective deterrent regardless what some claim on scoop.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shots fired
Incident location: North 14th and W State
Approximate time: 5:40 p.m.
Victims: One male, not affiliated with Marquette
Physical injuries: The victim suffered gunshot injuries and was taken to the hospital for treatment.
At approximately 5:40 p.m., the Marquette University Police Department and the Milwaukee Police Department responded to a call of shots fired near N. 14th St. and W. State St. A non-Marquette-affiliated male sustained non-life-threatening injuries and was transported to the hospital. The suspect fled the scene. The Milwaukee Police Department is leading the investigation and MUPD is assisting.
From the NYT:
Crime, murder and mass shootings have dominated headlines this year. Just over the weekend, a shooting in Cincinnati wounded nine people, and another in Detroit killed one and wounded four.
But the full crime data tells a different story. Nationwide, shootings are down 4 percent this year compared to the same time last year. In big cities, murders are down 3 percent. If the decrease in murders continues for the rest of 2022, it will be the first year since 2018 in which they fell in the U.S.
Quote from: MU82 on August 08, 2022, 10:37:36 AM
From the NYT:
Crime, murder and mass shootings have dominated headlines this year. Just over the weekend, a shooting in Cincinnati wounded nine people, and another in Detroit killed one and wounded four.
But the full crime data tells a different story. Nationwide, shootings are down 4 percent this year compared to the same time last year. In big cities, murders are down 3 percent. If the decrease in murders continues for the rest of 2022, it will be the first year since 2018 in which they fell in the U.S.
Supply chain issues for bullets
Quote from: lawdog77 on August 08, 2022, 10:48:28 AM
Supply chain issues for bullets
Mayhem is not cheap these days
I'm assuming they're all just moving to the Marquette neighborhood because they've heard of the free publicity on scoop.
They caught a future mass shooter in Chicagoland last week. Phew.
Quote from: lawdog77 on August 08, 2022, 10:48:28 AM
Supply chain issues for bullets
Gas prices have made drive-bys cost prohibitive.
I was awakened at 2:30 this morning by loud voices, a door slamming, and squealing tires. I looked out my window to see an abandoned Hyundai SUV in the middle of the street in front of my house. The police were called, processes were gone through, and the car was removed around 6:00.
I am going to have to move to MU's campus.
Quote from: tower912 on August 16, 2022, 06:13:54 AM
I was awakened at 2:30 this morning by loud voices, a door slamming, and squealing tires. I looked out my window to see an abandoned Hyundai SUV in the middle of the street in front of my house. The police were called, processes were gone through, and the car was removed around 6:00.
I am going to have to move to MU's campus.
Marquette campus crime follows you as an alum. One of the benefits that the Alumni Association likely didn't mention.
My bad for not reading the fine print.
Quote from: tower912 on August 16, 2022, 06:50:52 AM
My bad for not reading the fine print.
Well, if you would donate more, the crime would happen to you, instead of just being a witness/bystander.
Fahrenheit, ewe live in da hood, hey?
#freerocket2022v2
#freeziggy2022
Quote from: tower912 on August 16, 2022, 06:13:54 AM
I was awakened at 2:30 this morning by loud voices, a door slamming, and squealing tires. I looked out my window to see an abandoned Hyundai SUV in the middle of the street in front of my house. The police were called, processes were gone through, and the car was removed around 6:00.
I am going to have to move to MU's campus.
Way to make our enrollment crater, pal!
Quote from: tower912 on August 16, 2022, 06:13:54 AM
I was awakened at 2:30 this morning by loud voices, a door slamming, and squealing tires. I looked out my window to see an abandoned Hyundai SUV in the middle of the street in front of my house. The police were called, processes were gone through, and the car was removed around 6:00.
I am going to have to move to MU's campus.
Carvana really needs to figure out some of their delivery logistics.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Robbery
Incident location: 24th Street and Wells Street
Approximate time: 1:40 p.m.
Victims: One male, not affiliated with Marquette
Physical injuries: N/A
One male, not affiliated with Marquette, reported stolen property. After providing the initial statement to MUPD, the alleged victim is no longer cooperating.
Welcome to the new school year, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 10, 2022, 03:08:18 PM
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Robbery
Incident location: 24th Street and Wells Street
Approximate time: 1:40 p.m.
Victims: One male, not affiliated with Marquette
Physical injuries: N/A
One male, not affiliated with Marquette, reported stolen property. After providing the initial statement to MUPD, the alleged victim is no longer cooperating.
Welcome to the new school year, aina?
So...a big nothing burger?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 10, 2022, 03:08:18 PM
Welcome to the new school year, aina?
Has nothing to do with Marquette. Not on campus. No charges filed. Kind of thing that happens everywhere in the world, including Mequon.
It's probably safe for you to come out of the basement now.
Nah, ders sum retired journalists out heer, hey?
Quote from: MU82 on September 10, 2022, 07:18:00 PM
OK.
Did anyone catch the political affiliation of the crazy person who murdered that guy? No? Ok moving on.
'That guy'. I assume you are talking the MU alum killed by the politician in Vegas. The one that everyone here wanted caught.
Sad.
Quote from: Merit Matters on September 10, 2022, 08:49:47 PM
Did anyone catch the political affiliation of the crazy person who murdered that guy? No? Ok moving on.
Good one, chicos.
Quote from: Merit Matters on September 10, 2022, 08:49:47 PM
Did anyone catch the political affiliation of the crazy person who murdered that guy? No? Ok moving on.
We all did. And we all wanted him caught and held accountable.
That's the difference between us. Some want all held accountable regardless of political affiliation, some only want the other team held accountable.
His post lacked merit. So it doesn't matter. Just troll trolling
https://www.woodtv.com/news/ottawa-county/1-hurt-in-allendale-twp-shooting/
This campus used to be 7 buildings in the middle of a corn field. TAMU cut his teeth there. It is a campus in the middle of the country on the edge of a bedroom community. Yet here we are. This crap happens everywhere.
Quote from: tower912 on September 18, 2022, 05:39:06 PM
https://www.woodtv.com/news/ottawa-county/1-hurt-in-allendale-twp-shooting/
This campus used to be 7 buildings in the middle of a corn field. TAMU cut his teeth there. It is a campus in the middle of the country on the edge of a bedroom community. Yet here we are. This crap happens everywhere.
With Allendale Township only being a ferry ride away from Milwaukee, Marquette's enrollment is doomed to go even lower now.
Quote from: tower912 on September 18, 2022, 05:39:06 PM
https://www.woodtv.com/news/ottawa-county/1-hurt-in-allendale-twp-shooting/
This campus used to be 7 buildings in the middle of a corn field. TAMU cut his teeth there. It is a campus in the middle of the country on the edge of a bedroom community. Yet here we are. This crap happens everywhere.
I know exactly where that is. Those apartment complexes were where all the craziest (by GVSU standards) parties happened. True story, I once helped with the aftermath of a botched amateur exorcism that took place there.
Texted a few people who still work there. Definitely a lot of shock
Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on September 18, 2022, 05:56:12 PM
I know exactly where that is. Those apartment complexes were where all the craziest (by GVSU standards) parties happened. True story, I once helped with the aftermath of a botched amateur exorcism that took place there.
Texted a few people who still work there. Definitely a lot of shock
It is the polar opposite of the MU campus in so many ways. But still has the same issues.
Quote from: tower912 on September 18, 2022, 05:39:06 PM
https://www.woodtv.com/news/ottawa-county/1-hurt-in-allendale-twp-shooting/
This campus used to be 7 buildings in the middle of a corn field. TAMU cut his teeth there. It is a campus in the middle of the country on the edge of a bedroom community. Yet here we are. This crap happens everywhere.
Is there a Mequon, MI?
Just another example of the disregard for law and order in this country and the sorry state we find ourselves, hey?
Quote from: tower912 on September 18, 2022, 05:39:06 PM
https://www.woodtv.com/news/ottawa-county/1-hurt-in-allendale-twp-shooting/
This campus used to be 7 buildings in the middle of a corn field. TAMU cut his teeth there. It is a campus in the middle of the country on the edge of a bedroom community. Yet here we are. This crap happens everywhere.
I went to undergrad in Oxford, OH. As stereotypical of a beautiful lush college campus/ small college town as you could be. Middle of nowhere, an hour to any meaningful metro. I regularly left the doors of our house unlocked when we'd go out or to class. The kind of place you could stumble home cross eyed and not worry about anything (provided you stayed away from the train tracks.
Yet, my sophomore year one of the stud WRs got stabbed at an off campus party. A year or two after I graduated, someone was arrested at one of the campus bars for brandishing a gun during a fight and a year later a shot was fired at an off campus house.
Its still as safe as you can get and I wouldn't amend any of the statements about what I felt doing as an undergrad, but like you said, it really happens everywhere and anywhere.
Been through there. Yup.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 18, 2022, 07:06:59 PM
Just another example of the disregard for law and order in this country and the sorry state we find ourselves, hey?
Indeed, Doc, the disregard for law and order sure is sorry. Especially when the disregarders claim to be all about law and order.
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/02/02/USAT/8a2d8981-10e3-498c-9723-c10f5ecc7a46-AP_Capitol_Breach_The_Road_to_Riot_1.jpg?width=660&height=440&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)
For the third time in two days, the same suburban Charlotte high school had to be evacuated due to bomb threats. Nice burb, decent school.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Weapon displayed
Incident location: 900th block of N. 17th Street
Approximate time: 2:53 a.m.
Victims: None
Physical injuries: None
At approximately 3:24 a.m., a suspect in an unidentified vehicle displayed a weapon. No shots were fired. Suspect fled in an unidentified vehicle.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 24, 2022, 05:20:16 AM
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Weapon displayed
Incident location: 900th block of N. 17th Street
Approximate time: 2:53 a.m.
Victims: None
Physical injuries: None
At approximately 3:24 a.m., a suspect in an unidentified vehicle displayed a weapon. No shots were fired. Suspect fled in an unidentified vehicle.
Aren't you guys all "everyone should have guns all the time"? How is having a gun a bad thing now much less a crime report? Probably just a patriotic citizen availing himself of his 2nd Amendment rights.
Quote from: TSmith34 on September 24, 2022, 07:18:07 AM
Aren't you guys all "everyone should have guns all the time"? How is having a gun a bad thing now much less a crime report? Probably just a patriotic citizen availing himself of his 2nd Amendment rights.
Depends on the ethnicity of the patriot
A gun was shown at 3 am. And this soils your Depends?
SAFETY ALERT: Oct. 4, 2022 | 11:30 a.m.
OCTOBER 4, 2022
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Attempted armed robbery
Incident location: 17th Street and West Clybourn Street
Approximate time: 11:30 a.m.
Victims: One male Marquette student
Physical injuries: None
Two suspects near a vehicle were approached by the victim. One suspect displayed a weapon before the two suspects entered a nearby silver Kia that was occupied by two additional suspects. The silver Kia with the four suspects fled westbound.
Description of suspect(s)
Suspect 1:
Sex: Male
Age: Mid-teens
Race and/or ethnicity:
White Black or African American Hispanic or Latino Asian American Indian or Alaska Native Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander Unknown
Weight: 150 pounds
Height: 5'7"
Clothing: Dark hoodie with hood up and black facemask
Suspect 2:
Sex: Male
Age: Mid-teens
Race and/or ethnicity:
White Black or African American Hispanic or Latino Asian American Indian or Alaska Native Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander Unknown
Weight: 175 lbs.
Height: 6'
Clothing: Black jacket with a hood and patches
Suspect 3:
Sex: Male
Age: Mid-teens
Race and/or ethnicity:
White Black or African American Hispanic or Latino Asian American Indian or Alaska Native Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander Unknown
Clothing: Blue hoodie with face mask
Suspect 4:
Sex: Male
Age: Early teens
Race and/or ethnicity:
White Black or African American Hispanic or Latino Asian American Indian or Alaska Native Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander Unknown
Vehicle Description
Silver Kia with license plate AFP6812
6:05 p.m., caller reports an unknown subject has been coming by their residence, honking their car horn and then driving off, subject was gone on arrival
7:23 p.m., subject came into the office to report crimes he did, nothing was illegal that he told the officers
2:53 p.m., caller states neighbor's door is open, no one was at home, officers checked the apartment, nothing appeared out of the ordinary, issue with door latching mechanism, door believed to have been blown open by the wind
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 04, 2022, 12:58:01 PM
Two suspects near a vehicle were approached by the victim.
Talk about looking for trouble!
Have ya checked Marquette's acceptance rate lately, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 04, 2022, 01:32:45 PM
Have ya checked Marquette's acceptance rate lately, hey?
It's the scary city and caravans
I think it probably has more to do with getting a degree from a good but not great school for the price of what it takes to attend Marquette.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 04, 2022, 03:11:07 PM
I think it probably has more to do with getting a degree from a good but not great school for the price of what it takes to attend Marquette.
Maybe other schools competeting with Marquette read scoop and print out what Rocket posts and shows prospective students what a Marquette degree gets you
Quote from: tower912 on September 24, 2022, 08:05:16 AM
A gun was shown at 3 am. And this soils your Depends?
Suns out, guns out!
Shots fired. 20th & Michigan
I remember hearing them when I lived at 22nd and Michigan.
My daughter is enthralled by the Dahmer series. We walked around MU during her campus visit phase in and 11-12. She remembered some of what I had told her about living near Dahmer and the Ambassador hotel. I spent about 20 minutes last night on the phone with her describing the area circa 1987.
I say for the nth time, this crap ain't new.
Quote from: tower912 on October 04, 2022, 04:03:52 PM
I remember hearing them when I lived at 22nd and Michigan.
My daughter is enthralled by the Dahmer series. We walked around MU during her campus visit phase in and 11-12. He remembered some of what I had told her about living near Dahmer and the Ambassador hotel. I spent about 20 minutes last night on the phone with her describing the area circa 1987.
I say for the nth time, this crap ain't new.
Gender-fluid?
Heard MU's new recruiting tagline: Marquette - don't sweat it, it's always been this bad!
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 04, 2022, 04:07:26 PM
Gender-fluid?
Heard MU's new recruiting tagline: Marquette - don't sweat it, it's always been this bad!
Do something about it
Quote from: Jay Bee on October 04, 2022, 04:07:26 PM
Heard MU's new recruiting tagline: Marquette - don't sweat it, it's always been this bad!
As opposed to the tagline promoted by the OP. Marquette: Be afraid now
Quote from: tower912 on October 04, 2022, 04:40:00 PM
As opposed to the tagline promoted by the OP. Marquette: Be afraid now
Marquette: If the late-season collapses don't kill you, the criminals will
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shots fired
Incident location: 20th Street and West Michigan Street
Approximate time: 3:20 p.m.
Victims: None
Physical injuries: None
At approximately 3:20 p.m., the Marquette University Police Department responded to reports of shots fired near 20th Street and West Michigan Street. A witness reported shots were exchanged between two vehicles at the intersection. Both cars fled southbound.
From the Wall Street Journal:
Top business schools, such as Harvard, Wharton, Yale, the University of Chicago and NYU, are reporting steep drops in applications, due to a hot labor market and high tuition costs.
Must have heard about all the death and destruction taking place on the Marquette campus.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 04, 2022, 05:26:16 PM
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shots fired
Incident location: 20th Street and West Michigan Street
Approximate time: 3:20 p.m.
Victims: None
Physical injuries: None
At approximately 3:20 p.m., the Marquette University Police Department responded to reports of shots fired near 20th Street and West Michigan Street. A witness reported shots were exchanged between two vehicles at the intersection. Both cars fled southbound.
My old hood. Lived at 2028 W Michigan at the deck house
Only surprising thing about this is 3:20pm on a Tuesday. That was prime beer drinking time on the deck
Quote from: MU82 on October 04, 2022, 05:56:28 PM
From the Wall Street Journal:
Top business schools, such as Harvard, Wharton, Yale, the University of Chicago and NYU, are reporting steep drops in applications, due to a hot labor market and high tuition costs.
Must have heard about all the death and destruction taking place on the Marquette campus.
I always thought there was a strong correlation between the state of the economy and Graduate students.
When one is up, the other is down.
I am getting a lot of mileage out of living near a serial killer 35 years ago.
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shots fired
Incident location: 900 block of 15th and State
Approximate time: 6:18 p.m.
Victims: None
Physical injuries: None
At approximately 6:18 p.m., the Marquette University Police Department responded to a call of shots fired near the 900 block of 15th and State. Two vehicles were struck from shots fired by a suspect in a maroon SUV that fled southbound on 15th and State. No physical injuries reported. MUPD is still investigating.
Kolek 'em, hey?
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Strong-arm robbery
Incident location: 800 block of N. 17th Street
Approximate time: 11:08 p.m.
Victims: One female, Marquette student
Physical injuries: None
Two suspects approached the victim and demanded property. The victim gave up property and was not harmed. The suspects fled and abandoned the property before entering a small blue sports car and fleeing north on N. 9th Street.
Kolek 'em, aina?
If you are reporting everything, it is safer than my neighborhood.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 05, 2022, 07:36:49 PM
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shots fired
Incident location: 900 block of 15th and State
Approximate time: 6:18 p.m.
Victims: None
Physical injuries: None
At approximately 6:18 p.m., the Marquette University Police Department responded to a call of shots fired near the 900 block of 15th and State. Two vehicles were struck from shots fired by a suspect in a maroon SUV that fled southbound on 15th and State. No physical injuries reported. MUPD is still investigating.
Kolek 'em, hey?
My senior year apartment was in the 900 block of N. 15th St. waaay back in '69-'70.
I remember walking by a guy on Wells who the cops were questioning and hearing one of the cops tell the guy he was arresting him for murder, so crime around MU is not something new. From the reports, it sure sounds like it is a lot more common than I remember.
3 dead and 2 wounded in a shooting on the University of Virginia campus.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-large-shooting-university-virginia-police/story?id=92780963
Police have identified the suspect as a 22-year-old former football player, who was a member of the National Honor Society in high school.
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/who-is-christopher-darnell-jones-november-14-2022
Thoughts and prayers
Quote from: MU82 on November 14, 2022, 06:52:03 AM
3 dead and 2 wounded in a shooting on the University of Virginia campus.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-large-shooting-university-virginia-police/story?id=92780963
Police have identified the suspect as a 22-year-old former football player, who was a member of the National Honor Society in high school.
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/who-is-christopher-darnell-jones-november-14-2022
WR and DE both dead.
Let's rally together and send all the prayers.
Quote from: MU82 on November 14, 2022, 06:52:03 AM
3 dead and 2 wounded in a shooting on the University of Virginia campus.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-large-shooting-university-virginia-police/story?id=92780963
Police have identified the suspect as a 22-year-old former football player, who was a member of the National Honor Society in high school.
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/who-is-christopher-darnell-jones-november-14-2022
2 fellow active FB players among the 3 victims. Just absolutely awful.
Also saw 4 students were killed overnight at the University of Idaho at an off campus house. What a terrible news cycle.
Glad to see the smug lame ass "gallows humor lol" descended on the thread immediately.
Quote from: JWags85 on November 14, 2022, 09:55:39 AM
2 fellow active FB players among the 3 victims. Just absolutely awful.
Also saw 4 students were killed overnight at the University of Idaho at an off campus house. What a terrible news cycle.
Glad to see the smug lame ass "gallows humor lol" descended on the thread immediately.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fhh03sKXkAEWUlU?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote from: JWags85 on November 14, 2022, 09:55:39 AM
Glad to see the smug lame ass "gallows humor lol" descended on the thread immediately.
32.5 years as a firefighter. Gallows humor is my first language. Dialing it back is the challenge.
Quote from: JWags85 on November 14, 2022, 09:55:39 AM
2 fellow active FB players among the 3 victims. Just absolutely awful.
Also saw 4 students were killed overnight at the University of Idaho at an off campus house. What a terrible news cycle.
Yes, terrible.
Sadly, tragedies like these happen all too often on or near campuses everywhere.
Here's hoping our own Shoc Doc doesn't ever need to post another Marquette Crime Report, regardless of how minor, but that's not realistic.
But definitely, here's hoping he never has to post one as horrific as these at the idyllic university settings of UVa and Idaho.
My time at MU on campus in the 1980s saw my battery get stolen from my car before interior hood release latches and a purse snatcher that grab and elderly woman's purse on about 12 St and Wells.
I do remember a MKE derelict coming into the Engineering Building wanting to donate his body.
Quote from: NCMUFan on November 14, 2022, 11:49:08 AM
My time at MU on campus in the 1980s saw my battery get stolen from my car before interior hood release latches and a purse snatcher that grab and elderly woman's purse on about 12 St and Wells.
I do remember a MKE derelict coming into the Engineering Building wanting to donate his body.
Wtf did he expect engineering students to do with it?
80's.... young lady murdered across the street from Mashuda by the florist shop.
Dahmer. IIRC, wasn't the 'Lanche held up at gunpoint at midnight in a Saturday night. Wasn't that the reason they started serving beer in plastic cups? Because everybody had to lay down on the broken beer bottles?
Quote from: jesmu84 on November 14, 2022, 12:40:28 PM
Wtf did he expect engineering students to do with it?
RoboCop came out in 1987...BINGO
Yes!
I was in Charlottesville today for a doctor's appointment. The doors were locked and a note on the door instructed you to call their desk to be let in. The campus area was in lockdown. Students told to shelter in place and many businesses near the campus were closed.
The shooter was caught about 80 miles East of C'ville at 11:00 AM. One of the 2 wounded is in critical condition, the other is in good condition. The shooter was waiting as a busload of students were returning from a trip to DC. As awful as it was, it could have been much, much worse. The shooter could have killed many more as they stepped off the bus.
Quote from: JWags85 on November 14, 2022, 09:55:39 AM
2 fellow active FB players among the 3 victims. Just absolutely awful.
Also saw 4 students were killed overnight at the University of Idaho at an off campus house. What a terrible news cycle.
Glad to see the smug lame ass "gallows humor lol" descended on the thread immediately.
One of the FB players killed was a former Badger.
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
This email corrects the location of the incident.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shooting
Incident location: 800 block of N. 22nd St.
Approximate time: 8:22 p.m.
Victims: Three individuals involved, none Marquette-affiliated
Physical injuries: Two individuals sustained gunshot wounds
At approximately 8:22 p.m., MUPD responded to reports of a shooting inside a building on the 800 block of N. 22nd St. Two individuals not affiliated with Marquette sustained gunshot wounds from another non-Marquette individual inside the building. There is no active threat to campus. The Milwaukee Police Department is investigating.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 15, 2022, 03:28:55 AM
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
This email corrects the location of the incident.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shooting
Incident location: 800 block of N. 22nd St.
Approximate time: 8:22 p.m.
Victims: Three individuals involved, none Marquette-affiliated
Physical injuries: Two individuals sustained gunshot wounds
At approximately 8:22 p.m., MUPD responded to reports of a shooting inside a building on the 800 block of N. 22nd St. Two individuals not affiliated with Marquette sustained gunshot wounds from another non-Marquette individual inside the building. There is no active threat to campus. The Milwaukee Police Department is investigating.
There goes Marquette's enrollment, down another 10,000, as parents tell their kids to go to safe campuses like UVa and Idaho.
Quote from: MU82 on November 15, 2022, 10:21:03 AM
There goes Marquette's enrollment, down another 10,000, as parents tell their kids to go to safe campuses like UVa and Idaho.
Funny.
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shots fired
Incident location: 17th St. and W. State St.
Approximate time: 8:41 p.m.
Victims: None
Physical injuries: None
MUPD responded to a report of shots fired near 17th St. and W. State St. Evidence of a discharged weapon was found. No physical injuries were reported; there are no suspec
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shots fired
Incident location: 23rd St. and W. Wells St.
Approximate time: 4:35 p.m.
Victims: None
Physical injuries: None
At approximately 4:35 p.m., Marquette University Police responded to a report of shots fired near 23rd St. and W. Wells St. According to witnesses, two unidentified suspect vehicles containing an unknown number of individuals were traveling northbound when the vehicles' occupants exchanged gunfire, striking a parked vehicle and an apartment building. No physical injuries were reported. The suspect vehicles traveled northbound out of the area. The Milwaukee Police Department is investigating.
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Armed robbery
Incident location: 700 block of 22nd Street
Approximate time: 4:05 p.m.
Victims: One male, not affiliated with Marquette.
Physical injuries: None
The suspect entered a business, displayed a weapon and stole property from behind the counter. The suspect then fled the business onto 22nd Street toward Wisconsin Avenue.
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Possible armed disorderly subject
Incident location: 18th Street and West Wisconsin Avenue
Approximate time: 9:01 p.m.
Victims: One female Marquette student
Physical injuries: None
At approximately 9:01 p.m., MUPD responded to reports of a possible armed disorderly subject in the 1800 block of West Wisconsin Avenue. A suspect approached a Marquette female student as she entered her vehicle, threatening physical harm to the student. The female student honked her car horn, which caused the suspect to flee. The student was not physically harmed and is receiving support from MUPD. There is no active threat to campus. MUPD is investigating.
That's almost a month between reports, both relatively minor.
No wonder Marquette's enrollment is increasing nicely. Given all the reports of killings, rapes and other tragedies around the country, we have one of the safest campus areas anywhere!
On my google feed today, there was a WTMJ report about at least 10 cars being broken into during the Marquette game.
Quote from: lawdog77 on December 29, 2022, 10:09:59 AM
On my google feed today, there was a WTMJ report about at least 10 cars being broken into during the Marquette game.
Which resulted in 10 fouls called on Marquette by BE officials.
Quote from: lawdog77 on December 29, 2022, 10:09:59 AM
On my google feed today, there was a WTMJ report about at least 10 cars being broken into during the Marquette game.
On campus, or near the arena?
Quote from: lawdog77 on December 29, 2022, 10:09:59 AM
On my google feed today, there was a WTMJ report about at least 10 cars being broken into during the Marquette game.
Honestly, the fact that you could park anywhere near the now Fiserv and have peace of mind about your car is progress. When I was growing up going to games at the BC in the 90s, if you parked north of McKinley/Fond Du Lac, you were choosing your own adventure. I remember parking by the old JS building (which is now MATC or something just west of 6th) and having my Dad be like "dont tell your mom, shh"
Quote from: MU82 on December 29, 2022, 11:01:03 AM
On campus, or near the arena?
Don't know. I dont read articles, I just quote them or link them
Quote from: lawdog77 on December 29, 2022, 12:16:35 PM
Don't know. I dont read articles, I just quote them or link them
That's a must to earn a sQoop Hero Award!
Quote from: JWags85 on December 29, 2022, 11:23:44 AM
Honestly, the fact that you could park anywhere near the now Fiserv and have peace of mind about your car is progress. When I was growing up going to games at the BC in the 90s, if you parked north of McKinley/Fond Du Lac, you were choosing your own adventure. I remember parking by the old JS building (which is now MATC or something just west of 6th) and having my Dad be like "dont tell your mom, shh"
When we were season ticket holders (09-19) we parked north of McKinley for every game and never gave it a second thought. The only problem we ever had was that several of the businesses around there don't always shovel their sidewalks.
Quote from: warriorchick on December 29, 2022, 02:20:55 PM
When we were season ticket holders (09-19) we parked north of McKinley for every game and never gave it a second thought. The only problem we ever had was that several of the businesses around there don't always shovel their sidewalks.
Yea, that was a very different area by then. Adding the new onramp there in the early 2000s started it. Then, once MATC took over the old JS printing building, like I said, and they put in a few new parking lots and street lights, it brightened up.
Quote from: warriorchick on December 29, 2022, 02:20:55 PM
When we were season ticket holders (09-19) we parked north of McKinley for every game and never gave it a second thought. The only problem we ever had was that several of the businesses around there don't always shovel their sidewalks.
Ma, keep that dream alive. 6th and Brown ain't Martha's Vineyard no more. Da chit folks will do to save $10. Any wonder our endowment sucks sewer water, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 29, 2022, 03:19:49 PM
Ma, keep that dream alive. 6th and Brown ain't Martha's Vineyard no more. Da chit folks will do to save $10. Any wonder our endowment sucks sewer water, hey?
The endowment is down because of the area over a mile away from campus? Adjacent to nothing about campus except where the basketball team plays 16 times a year?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 29, 2022, 03:19:49 PM
Ma, keep that dream alive. 6th and Brown ain't Martha's Vineyard no more. Da chit folks will do to save $10. Any wonder our endowment sucks sewer water, hey?
I thought you hadn't left Mequon in the past quarter century. Just basing this on the crime reports?
Quote from: wadesworld on December 29, 2022, 04:24:55 PM
I thought you hadn't left Mequon in the past quarter century. Just basing this on the crime reports?
(https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1294135861/photo/wild-eyed-mature-man-peers-ominously-or-fearfully-through-venetian-blinds.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=Ifu0gUEaSby7u0NQ5orqfFK93HoXlpfMWRaQfJgJ3qA=)
Quote from: wadesworld on December 29, 2022, 04:24:55 PM
I thought you hadn't left Mequon in the past quarter century. Just basing this on the crime reports?
Listen, I grew up in Mequon. 4 different kids I was actually friends with, not just associates, died of heroin overdoses before 23, each death occurring in Mequon. There was a double homicide a quarter mile from my parents house about 10 years ago and someone was stabbed to death at a party in Mequon in October. It's basically the south side of Chicago at this point.
Quote from: JWags85 on December 29, 2022, 05:03:10 PM
Listen, I grew up in Mequon. 4 different kids I was actually friends with, not just associates, died of heroin overdoses before 23, each death occurring in Mequon. There was a double homicide a quarter mile from my parents house about 10 years ago and someone was stabbed to death at a party in Mequon in October. It's basically the south side of Chicago at this point.
No wonder the endowment at Concordia sucks
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 29, 2022, 05:09:31 PM
No wonder the endowment at Concordia sucks
And why it's a haven for dentists.
Quote from: JWags85 on December 29, 2022, 05:03:10 PM
Listen, I grew up in Mequon. 4 different kids I was actually friends with, not just associates, died of heroin overdoses before 23, each death occurring in Mequon. There was a double homicide a quarter mile from my parents house about 10 years ago and someone was stabbed to death at a party in Mequon in October. It's basically the south side of Chicago at this point.
Well, you hung out with the wrong crowd. The kids I know are largely successful and some of the best snd brightest you'll run across anywhere.
Btw, reread my response to Ma. Your logic and reading comprehension drew the wrong conclusion, hey?
Quote from: JWags85 on December 29, 2022, 05:03:10 PM
Listen, I grew up in Mequon. 4 different kids I was actually friends with, not just associates, died of heroin overdoses before 23, each death occurring in Mequon. There was a double homicide a quarter mile from my parents house about 10 years ago and someone was stabbed to death at a party in Mequon in October. It's basically the south side of Chicago at this point.
all of these heroin/fentanyl overdose/deaths are really sad and need to be addressed like yesterday. there is approximately 1 death/overdose every 5 minutes...EVERY 5 MINUTES!!! translation, if there was a death due to bad big macs every 5 minutes would something be done? the acknowledgment and/or action on this epidemic is being largely ignored. so what the heck, let's legalize 'shrooms, they're naturally occurring anyway
but the border is secure eyn'a?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 29, 2022, 07:10:07 PM
all of these heroin/fentanyl overdose/deaths are really sad and need to be addressed like yesterday. there is approximately 1 death/overdose every 5 minutes...EVERY 5 MINUTES!!! translation, if there was a death due to bad big macs every 5 minutes would something be done? the acknowledgment and/or action on this epidemic is being largely ignored. so what the heck, let's legalize 'shrooms, they're naturally occurring anyway
but the border is secure eyn'a?
Fantastic
8.5 out of 10
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 29, 2022, 07:10:07 PM
all of these heroin/fentanyl overdose/deaths are really sad and need to be addressed like yesterday. there is approximately 1 death/overdose every 5 minutes...EVERY 5 MINUTES!!! translation, if there was a death due to bad big macs every 5 minutes would something be done? the acknowledgment and/or action on this epidemic is being largely ignored. so what the heck, let's legalize 'shrooms, they're naturally occurring anyway
but the border is secure eyn'a?
How would you like to see it addressed?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 29, 2022, 07:11:59 PM
Fantastic
8.5 out of 10
He was rolling towards a perfect score until he somehow forgot to wedge litterboxes for furries in there as well.
Big Macs lead to heart disease.
Quote from: tower912 on December 29, 2022, 07:45:59 PM
Big Macs lead to heart disease.
Right. And someone dies from heart disease in this country every 50 seconds or so.
And excuse me for not taking someone seriously who spent a couple years here discounting the impact of Covid.
Quote from: tower912 on December 29, 2022, 07:45:59 PM
Big Macs lead to heart disease.
Because of drag queens, probably.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 29, 2022, 07:08:13 PM
Well, you hung out with the wrong crowd. The kids I know are largely successful and some of the best snd brightest you'll run across anywhere.
Btw, reread my response to Ma. Your logic and reading comprehension drew the wrong conclusion, hey?
1) it was a joke that bad things happen in many places.
2) F off with that nonsense. That wasn't even a dig on my hometown. Oh and of those 4? An honors student less than 12 months out of UW; a D1 golfer at a WCC school who got addicted to pain meds after shoulder surgery; a consultant with a degree from one of the very good private schools, and a soon to be college junior at IU.
So yea, real terrible group of dregs and burnouts. And that stabbing was a 50 year old guy at a house party
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 29, 2022, 07:25:14 PM
How would you like to see it addressed?
Have you seen this place called Wakanda?
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on December 29, 2022, 08:09:58 PM
1 minute, 52 seconds.
exactly, and he has nothing intelligent to say regarding the issue so he tries to be class clown about it. no surprise. i fail to understand how drug overdoses can become such a controversial topic. one would think you could get a consensus it's all bad, but nope. reeko thinks it's all fun and games. i just hope you never have to bury someone close to you due to any form of drug addiction or accidental overdose and i honestly mean that. then it might not be so funny
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 29, 2022, 07:25:14 PM
How would you like to see it addressed?
figure it out jes
Ziggy
Even better is the usual suspects trying to be clever on following up on Rico's rating posts. Some if these guys try hard to be clever, but sadly miss the mark by a very wide margin.
Quote from: JWags85 on December 29, 2022, 09:46:34 PM
1) it was a joke that bad things happen in many places.
2) F off with that nonsense. That wasn't even a dig on my hometown. Oh and of those 4? An honors student less than 12 months out of UW; a D1 golfer at a WCC school who got addicted to pain meds after shoulder surgery; a consultant with a degree from one of the very good private schools, and a soon to be college junior at IU.
So yea, real terrible group of dregs and burnouts. And that stabbing was a 50 year old guy at a house party
If we closed the border, there'd be no drugs in Mequon but Marquette would still have no endowment.
From the NYT's "The Morning" newsletter:
At the start of this year, America's crime trends looked grim: Murders had spiked at a record speed in 2020 and increased further in 2021.
But now that the year is ending, it's clear that the violence has eased.
Murders in large U.S. cities are down more than 5 percent so far in 2022 compared to the same time last year, according to the research firm AH Datalytics. Gun deaths, injuries and mass shootings are also down this year.
What happened? To regular readers of this newsletter, the explanations may be familiar: The causes of the murder spike have receded.
Covid disrupted much of life in 2020 and 2021, including social services that help keep people safe. That applies not just to policing, but also to places like schools and addiction treatment facilities that can help people — especially young men, the more common perpetrators and victims of violent crime — stay out of trouble. As life slowly returns to normal, these programs have reopened and helped suppress murders and shootings. ...
The drop in murders is genuinely good news — the kind that often goes unreported. Think about how many headlines you have seen about the rise in murders compared to stories about the subsequent decline.
That gap demonstrates another point that regular readers of this newsletter will be familiar with: The news media tends to have a bad news bias. Some of that is driven by journalists' decisions, hence the old cliché that if it bleeds, it leads. Studies also suggest that negativity gets a bigger audience, so journalists are, to some extent, giving readers what they want.
That bias warps people's perceptions of the world. As rates of murders and other crimes plummeted from the 1990s to mid-2010s, news outlets regularly covered shocking individual crimes, and a majority of Americans told Gallup that crime was trending upward. (Most Americans still say crime is up.)
There are still reasons for caution. Data from this year suggested other kinds of crime, besides murders and shootings, might have increased in 2022. Murders are still higher than they were in 2019. And it's possible the trends reported in large cities don't apply to the entire country (although they have in recent years).
But the data we do have suggests the country's murder and shooting rates are heading in the right direction. As the year comes to a close, it's good news you can celebrate. ...
Also, Congress's latest spending bill increased funding for local police.
Quote from: MU82 on December 30, 2022, 06:24:37 AM
From the NYT's "The Morning" newsletter:
At the start of this year, America's crime trends looked grim: Murders had spiked at a record speed in 2020 and increased further in 2021.
But now that the year is ending, it's clear that the violence has eased.
Murders in large U.S. cities are down more than 5 percent so far in 2022 compared to the same time last year, according to the research firm AH Datalytics. Gun deaths, injuries and mass shootings are also down this year.
What happened? To regular readers of this newsletter, the explanations may be familiar: The causes of the murder spike have receded.
Covid disrupted much of life in 2020 and 2021, including social services that help keep people safe. That applies not just to policing, but also to places like schools and addiction treatment facilities that can help people — especially young men, the more common perpetrators and victims of violent crime — stay out of trouble. As life slowly returns to normal, these programs have reopened and helped suppress murders and shootings. ...
The drop in murders is genuinely good news — the kind that often goes unreported. Think about how many headlines you have seen about the rise in murders compared to stories about the subsequent decline.
That gap demonstrates another point that regular readers of this newsletter will be familiar with: The news media tends to have a bad news bias. Some of that is driven by journalists' decisions, hence the old cliché that if it bleeds, it leads. Studies also suggest that negativity gets a bigger audience, so journalists are, to some extent, giving readers what they want.
That bias warps people's perceptions of the world. As rates of murders and other crimes plummeted from the 1990s to mid-2010s, news outlets regularly covered shocking individual crimes, and a majority of Americans told Gallup that crime was trending upward. (Most Americans still say crime is up.)
There are still reasons for caution. Data from this year suggested other kinds of crime, besides murders and shootings, might have increased in 2022. Murders are still higher than they were in 2019. And it's possible the trends reported in large cities don't apply to the entire country (although they have in recent years).
But the data we do have suggests the country's murder and shooting rates are heading in the right direction. As the year comes to a close, it's good news you can celebrate. ...
Also, Congress's latest spending bill increased funding for local police.
That'll help Marquette's endowment
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 29, 2022, 10:46:59 PM
figure it out jes
No, no solution other than 'build the wall'?
Where do you think the fentanyl comes from?
QuoteCurrently, China remains the primary source of fentanyl and fentanyl-related substances trafficked through
international mail and express consignment operations environment, as well as the main source for all
fentanyl-related substances trafficked into the United States. Seizures of fentanyl sourced from China
average less than one kilogram in weight, and often test above 90 percent concentration of pure fentanyl.
https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/DEA_GOV_DIR-008-20%20Fentanyl%20Flow%20in%20the%20United%20States_0.pdf
Enjoy bathing in the Sinophobia!
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on December 29, 2022, 11:03:36 PM
Trick question: sultan is God.
Quote from: Goose on December 30, 2022, 01:41:00 AM
Even better is the usual suspects trying to be clever on following up on Rico's rating posts. Some if these guys try hard to be clever, but sadly miss the mark by a very wide margin.
Here comes the cavalry!!!
Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 30, 2022, 06:52:01 AM
No, no solution other than 'build the wall'?
Where do you think the fentanyl comes from?
https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/DEA_GOV_DIR-008-20%20Fentanyl%20Flow%20in%20the%20United%20States_0.pdf
Enjoy bathing in the Sinophobia!
My family has buried a number of alcoholics. Maybe we should build a wall around both coasts and use Jewish space lasers to shoot down planes from Scotland, Ireland, Germany and other alcohol producing countries.
This latest scoop kerfuffle began with a non-sequitur from our resident Tuckerologist. It ain't the border causing drug problems in this country but the simpleminded always need a boogeyman.
Brother Goose
You realize, of course, that you are humorlessly rushing to the defense of a member of your tribe. I would like to think this was an attempt at irony, but that is probably my unwavering optimism talking.
Quote from: tower912 on December 30, 2022, 07:39:59 AM
Brother Goose
You realize, of course, that you are humorlessly rushing to the defense of a member of your tribe. I would like to think this was an attempt at irony.
History shows that it isn't.
tower
There was no attempt to add humor in my post. A simple observation that many on here miss the mark in their attempts at being clever.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 30, 2022, 06:52:01 AM
No, no solution other than 'build the wall'?
Where do you think the fentanyl comes from?
https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/DEA_GOV_DIR-008-20%20Fentanyl%20Flow%20in%20the%20United%20States_0.pdf
Enjoy bathing in the Sinophobia!
Fun fact, the Great Wall in China was actually subsidized by the West looking forward hundreds of years to prevent illegal drugs from leaving China
Quote from: JWags85 on December 30, 2022, 08:46:34 AM
Fun fact, the Great Wall in China was actually subsidized by the West looking forward hundreds of years to prevent illegal drugs from leaving China
I can't wait for the day when the tourism dollars start flowing in from future civilizations fascination with the, "Mediocre Wall of the United States".
I hear that you can see it from space!
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 29, 2022, 07:10:07 PM
all of these heroin/fentanyl overdose/deaths are really sad and need to be addressed like yesterday. there is approximately 1 death/overdose every 5 minutes...EVERY 5 MINUTES!!! translation, if there was a death due to bad big macs every 5 minutes would something be done? the acknowledgment and/or action on this epidemic is being largely ignored. so what the heck, let's legalize 'shrooms, they're naturally occurring anyway
but the border is secure eyn'a?
The vast, vast majority of fentanyl brought into the US from Mexico- like 90 percent - is done so by people entering the country legally. And the vast, vast majority of people convicted of trafficking fentanyl into the US - like 86 percent- are American citizens.
But sure, build a wall. It'll be as effective as the War on Drugs.
Nah, the Buffoon's mouthpiece sez he's got dis covered, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 30, 2022, 09:15:08 AM
Nah, the Buffoon's mouthpiece sez he's got dis covered, aina?
He does need to do more to combat the overdose problems in Mequon since the mayor is ignoring it
The most terrifying thing about the Biden presidency is that there were hardly more than 5-10 overdoses a year before he took office. Now you might just get fentanyl in your toothpaste or can of Diet Coke.
I agree that Karine Jean-Pierre stinks, but she's just carrying the mantle of the press secretaries of the last 5+ years
Couldn't stand Psaki, but I think she was very good in her job. The press secretary now, is simply a disgrace and an embarrassment, hey?
Quote from: JWags85 on December 30, 2022, 02:57:22 PM
The most terrifying thing about the Biden presidency is that there were hardly more than 5-10 overdoses a year before he took office. Now you might just get fentanyl in your toothpaste or can of Diet Coke.
I agree that Karine Jean-Pierre stinks, but she's just carrying the mantle of the press secretaries of the last 5+ years
I saw fentanyl getting gas at the Kwik Trip in Oconomowoc. If it's in Cooney, can you imagine where else it is?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 30, 2022, 03:30:16 PM
Couldn't stand Psaki, but I think she was very good in her job. The press secretary now, is simply a disgrace and an embarrassment, hey?
I can honestly say I have never had an opinion on a press secretary.
Ya don't no watt ur missin', hey?
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 30, 2022, 03:53:21 PM
I can honestly say I have never had an opinion on a press secretary.
Yep. Same here, except for James Hagerty, press secretary for Eisenhower. Either that or I am confusing him with Jim Hegarty.
I was a fan of George Reedy.
Quote from: lawdog77 on December 30, 2022, 04:05:09 PM
Yep. Same here, except for James Hagerty, press secretary for Eisenhower. Either that or I am confusing him with Jim Hegarty.
Always liked the sign over the front door of that bar when old man Hegarty owned the place. It had a Schlitz logo and the welcoming " Jim Hegarty Wants to See You" below the logo.
Quote from: tower912 on December 30, 2022, 06:36:55 PM
I was a fan of George Reedy.
Me too. What a contrast to the long string of press secretaries over recent years who are nothing more than suck up, kneejerk apologists for their presidents.
I had him for a professor way back when.
Indiana University Student Stabbed in 'Racially Motivated' Attack, School Says
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/15/us/indiana-university-student-stabbed.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20230116&instance_id=82844&nl=the-morning®i_id=108420427&segment_id=122650&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
An 18-year-old student was stabbed several times in the head while she was riding a bus. A school official said the attack was a reminder "that anti-Asian hate is real."
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Attempted armed robbery
Incident location: 22nd St. and Michigan St.
Approximate time: 3:13 p.m.
Victims: One male, not affiliated with Marquette
Physical injuries: Victim sustained physical injuries; receiving medical treatment
A male victim, not affiliated with Marquette, intervened as the suspects were attempting to steal his parked vehicle near 22nd St. and Michigan St. One of the suspects displayed a weapon; the suspects physically assaulted the victim. The victim is receiving medical attention. The suspects all fled westbound on Michigan St. in their own vehicle, a black Kia Telluride SUV with no plates.
22 and Michigan. Ahhh, memories.
Thanks for keeping everyone posted, Doc.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 16, 2023, 04:05:51 PM
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Attempted armed robbery
Incident location: 22nd St. and Michigan St.
Approximate time: 3:13 p.m.
Victims: One male, not affiliated with Marquette
Physical injuries: Victim sustained physical injuries; receiving medical treatment
A male victim, not affiliated with Marquette, intervened as the suspects were attempting to steal his parked vehicle near 22nd St. and Michigan St. One of the suspects displayed a weapon; the suspects physically assaulted the victim. The victim is receiving medical attention. The suspects all fled westbound on Michigan St. in their own vehicle, a black Kia Telluride SUV with no plates.
Why would you want to steal another vehicle if your whip is a Kia Telluride?
Quote from: lawdog77 on January 16, 2023, 05:40:51 PM
Why would you want to steal another vehicle if your whip is a Kia Telluride?
Given the no plates, wouldn't be shocked if that was stolen too
Quote from: Goose on January 16, 2023, 04:21:10 PM
Thanks for keeping everyone posted, Doc.
Just tryin' ta keep my fellow Scoopers safe, hey?
Kia Boys at it again.
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Reported shots fired
Incident location: N. 15th Street and W. Kilbourn Avenue
Approximate time: 3 a.m.
Victims: None
Physical injuries: None
MUPD responded to multiple reports of shots fired at N. 15th Street and W. Kilbourn Avenue. No evidence was found at the scene
Thanks for keep us informed, Doc!!
Goose, its so busy keepin' up wit dis chit, eye'm considerin' higherin' Nads ta man da turd shift police scanner, if eye kan afford 'im, hey?
Quote from: JWags85 on December 30, 2022, 02:57:22 PM
I agree that Karine Jean-Pierre stinks, but she's just carrying the mantle of the press secretaries of the last 5+ years
Ya'll aint being fair. The press secretary is only as good as the Administration wants her to be. Send her out with nothing and she says nothing.
Bring her into the inner circle, allow her to help formulate the message and guess what, you have a competent press secretary.
My guess is she's given little each day and tells even less.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Attempted robbery
Incident location: 1500 block of West Wells Street
Approximate time: 6:10 a.m.
Victims: One male, affiliated with Marquette
Physical injuries: None.
A male suspect approached a Marquette-affiliated male, implied a weapon and demanded property. No property was given up, and the suspect fled northbound on 17th Street on a bicycle. There were no injuries.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 14, 2023, 07:41:07 AM
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Attempted robbery
Incident location: 1500 block of West Wells Street
Approximate time: 6:10 a.m.
Victims: One male, affiliated with Marquette
Physical injuries: None.
A male suspect approached a Marquette-affiliated male, implied a weapon and demanded property. No property was given up, and the suspect fled northbound on 17th Street on a bicycle. There were no injuries.
If only the Marquette campus were as safe as Michigan State's.
Thank you the very flippant response to a very disturbing problem, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 14, 2023, 09:13:11 AM
Thank you the very flippant response to a very disturbing problem, hey?
Thank you for monitoring your police scanner for minor crimes that happen in every neighborhood in the world, including Mequon, and for not being one of the criminal dentists in the other thread.
My pleasure...just an ordinary citizen trying my best to keep y'all aware and safe, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 14, 2023, 09:13:11 AM
Thank you the very flippant response to a very disturbing problem, hey?
no chit hey...if i were a regular resident in any of the (fill in the blank) cities where this has been a much to common issue, i'd really be pissed off. it happens at michigan state and holy hell, press conferences, people crying, etc etc when this same thing and worse probably happened last night in memphis for example, it barely makes the news anymore.
one big set of info that needs to come out is who this evil person who committed those shootings in east lansing is, and any criminal history and how it has been handled. hopefully we can get some transparency for a change on this as that is where a big part of the solution(s) can be found
hey doc, isn't your son a student near east lansing? hope he's ok
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 14, 2023, 09:22:04 AM
My pleasure...just an ordinary citizen trying my best to keep y'all aware and safe, hey?
It's working. Your reports have helped parents realize that the only college-campus crime in the United States takes place between 11th and 18th and between Clybourn and State. That's why Marquette's enrollment is down to zero.
Also, it's let parents know that their kids need Glocks and ARs on them at all times. Because the only way everybody on campus will be safe is if they're all packin'.
Quote from: MU82 on February 14, 2023, 09:29:17 AM
It's working. Your reports have helped parents realize that the only college-campus crime in the United States takes place between 11th and 18th and between Clybourn and State. That's why Marquette's enrollment is down to zero.
Also, it's let parents know that their kids need Glocks and ARs on them at all times. Because the only way everybody on campus will be safe is if they're all packin'.
This has gotten as tired as your emperor diatribes.
My son and I fortunately came away unscathed from an attempted carjacking yesterday near Fiserv before the game. I left the car to feed the meter (taking the key fob with me), and he jumped in the driver's seat. I heard the door slam, and within seconds, I was opening the passenger door to confront him. He tried taking a couple swings at me to back me off, while I was yelling that there was a 5-year old in the backseat. He literally stopped what he was doing (which was trying to figure out how to start the car and put it in drive), turned around to look at my son, then jumped out into the getaway car that was waiting right next to my vehicle. This happened on MLK between Juneau and Highland, just south of Carson's and just north of Third Street Tavern around 4:45pm. I don't have much info to give the police other than the car they used was a black SUV. I know it's a long shot, but this is a very busy area with foot and street traffic. If anyone happened to see this and could provide any further info, please let me know. Thanks MU fam!
Sorry you had to go through that, SoJ.
Good thing that was nowhere near campus at least.
U packin' for your stay in downtown MKE, hey?
Mine was uneventful. I had just left Goolsby's to go to the arena during that time frame. Pleasant stay at Hyatt Place. Walked from there to campus during the afternoon, wandered campus. Bought swag, carried it back downtown.
I feel bad for Spirit of James.
Quote from: tower912 on February 16, 2023, 07:13:26 PM
Mine was uneventful. I had just left Goolsby's to go to the arena during that time frame. Pleasant stay at Hyatt Place. Walked from there to campus during the afternoon, wandered campus. Bought swag, carried it back downtown.
I feel bad for Spirit of James.
Lunch at real chili?
Quote from: MU82 on February 16, 2023, 06:41:15 PM
Sorry you had to go through that, SoJ.
Good thing that was nowhere near campus at least.
Thank you sir. It hits hard seeing some POS trying to drive away in your car with your kid in it. It's also an internal struggle to ignore every natural instinct that you have, not knowing what these mf'ers could be carrying in their pockets. I've watched enough of the news to know that we are lucky it did not end worse than it did.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 16, 2023, 07:08:01 PM
U packin' for your stay in downtown MKE, hey?
Psyched to go to my first game this season. Our group is staying near the arena, and we're looking forward to a great weekend of reuniting with close Marquette friends, eating good food, enjoying a few beverages, and watching our alma mater's basketball team thrash DePaul. Thanks for your interest in my itinerary.
Shocking Spirit that not one mope Scooper here had the nutsack to respond with a serious post or condemnation of this outrageous act, which now is an epidemic in Milwaukee.
Just another day in paradise of turning a blind eye to the problems that infest our society, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 17, 2023, 08:09:59 AM
Shocking Spirit that not one mope Scooper here had the nutsack to respond with a serious post or condemnation of this outrageous act, which now is an epidemic in Milwaukee.
Just another day in paradise of turning a blind eye to the problems that infest our society, hey?
What are you doing to help solve the problems that infest our society?
There is nothing new now infesting society. And I said that I feel bad for SoJ. I was a block or two away when it happened. If I had been walking out of one of those bars instead of Goolsby's, I probably would have tried to help.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 17, 2023, 08:16:17 AM
What are you doing to help solve the problems that infest our society?
I vote, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 17, 2023, 08:28:14 AM
I vote, hey?
Time for an addendum to "Profiles in Courage," aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 17, 2023, 08:09:59 AM
Shocking Spirit that not one mope Scooper here had the nutsack to respond with a serious post or condemnation of this outrageous act, which now is an epidemic in Milwaukee.
Just another day in paradise of turning a blind eye to the problems that infest our society, hey?
You often post in childlike code for attention. Many, including myself, skip over them much of the time without reading them. If you seek more interaction, maybe post in a recognizable language (doesn't have to be English) instead of jibberish.
Thank you, Dr. Pick. Always enjoyed your class, especially "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner." I'll try to improve upon the "A" earned in your klass, hey?.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 17, 2023, 08:09:59 AM
Shocking Spirit that not one mope Scooper here had the nutsack to respond with a serious post or condemnation of this outrageous act, which now is an epidemic in Milwaukee.
Just another day in paradise of turning a blind eye to the problems that infest our society, hey?
Damn Milwaukee! And "cities" (as roqqet would say) where "those" people hangout.
The Two-Decade Red State Murder Problemhttps://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem
"The murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Donald Trump has exceeded the murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Joe Biden in every year from 2000 to 2020.
Altogether, the per capita Red State murder rate was 23% higher than the Blue State murder rate when all 21 years were combined."
Do red states report higher rates of violent crime than blue states?https://gigafact.org/fact-briefs/do-red-states-rank-higher-in-violent-crime-rates-than-blue-states
"According to 2019 FBI data, seven out of ten states with the highest per-capita rates of violent crime voted Republican in the 2020 election. In contrast, seven out of ten states with the lowest rates voted Democrat."
I guess your heroic voting is contributing to this.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 17, 2023, 10:15:55 AM
Damn Milwaukee! And "cities" (as roqqet would say) where "those" people hangout.
The Two-Decade Red State Murder Problem
https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem
"The murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Donald Trump has exceeded the murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Joe Biden in every year from 2000 to 2020.
Altogether, the per capita Red State murder rate was 23% higher than the Blue State murder rate when all 21 years were combined."
Do red states report higher rates of violent crime than blue states?
https://gigafact.org/fact-briefs/do-red-states-rank-higher-in-violent-crime-rates-than-blue-states
"According to 2019 FBI data, seven out of ten states with the highest per-capita rates of violent crime voted Republican in the 2020 election. In contrast, seven out of ten states with the lowest rates voted Democrat."
I guess your heroic voting is contributing to this.
Damn gubmint, aina hey hoo haaa hoo laa doo da.
How'd I do, roqqquet man?
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 17, 2023, 10:15:55 AM
Damn Milwaukee! And "cities" (as roqqet would say) where "those" people hangout.
The Two-Decade Red State Murder Problem
https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem
"The murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Donald Trump has exceeded the murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Joe Biden in every year from 2000 to 2020.
Altogether, the per capita Red State murder rate was 23% higher than the Blue State murder rate when all 21 years were combined."
Do red states report higher rates of violent crime than blue states?
https://gigafact.org/fact-briefs/do-red-states-rank-higher-in-violent-crime-rates-than-blue-states
"According to 2019 FBI data, seven out of ten states with the highest per-capita rates of violent crime voted Republican in the 2020 election. In contrast, seven out of ten states with the lowest rates voted Democrat."
I guess your heroic voting is contributing to this.
🐷🐷
And Piggy Ziggy cried wee wee wee
The only response here is glad you're okay SoJ, and glad nothing happened to your child. Thank you for the info, it's always good to know your surroundings.
The rest is disappointing bs at best, and selfish cruelty at worst.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 17, 2023, 10:52:54 AM
And Piggy Ziggy cried wee wee wee
Sorry Dos Pig(gy), you are the only swine here.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 17, 2023, 12:14:53 PM
Sorry Dos Pig(gy), you are the only swine here.
wee, wee, wee
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on February 17, 2023, 10:55:50 AM
The only response here is glad you're okay SoJ, and glad nothing happened to your child. Thank you for the info, it's always good to know your surroundings.
The rest is disappointing bs at best, and selfish cruelty at worst.
All good buddy, thank you. Didn't mean to start a war. Was just hoping someone might have witnessed it, and might be able to provide additional info that I can pass along to the PD. Don't want anyone else to have to experience this, that's for sure.
Quote from: Spirit Of James on February 17, 2023, 01:09:53 PM
All good buddy, thank you. Didn't mean to start a war. Was just hoping someone might have witnessed it, and might be able to provide additional info that I can pass along to the PD. Don't want anyone else to have to experience this, that's for sure.
Glad you're safe and sorry this happened to you.
I'm sorry that happened to you and your son, Spirit. I'm glad you both came out of it unharmed.
On the lighter side, and there obviously would be no lighter side if it turned out differently, always heed the advice of Chris Rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hJxWr1TKK8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hJxWr1TKK8)
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 17, 2023, 01:12:29 PM
Glad you're safe and sorry this happened to you.
Thanks Rico!
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 17, 2023, 01:14:59 PM
I'm sorry that happened to you and your son, Spirit. I'm glad you both came out of it unharmed.
On the lighter side, and there obviously would be no lighter side if it turned out differently, always heed the advice of Chris Rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hJxWr1TKK8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hJxWr1TKK8)
Ahhhh yes, I remember this one. Friggin' hysterical...and true!
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 17, 2023, 01:14:59 PM
I'm sorry that happened to you and your son, Spirit. I'm glad you both came out of it unharmed.
On the lighter side, and there obviously would be no lighter side if it turned out differently, always heed the advice of Chris Rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hJxWr1TKK8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hJxWr1TKK8)
I actually beat Chris Rock to this observation several years earlier - in 1985 after I got lost driving late at night on Martin Luther King Drive near University of Chicago.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 17, 2023, 10:15:55 AM
Damn Milwaukee! And "cities" (as roqqet would say) where "those" people hangout.
The Two-Decade Red State Murder Problem
https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem
"The murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Donald Trump has exceeded the murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Joe Biden in every year from 2000 to 2020.
Altogether, the per capita Red State murder rate was 23% higher than the Blue State murder rate when all 21 years were combined."
Do red states report higher rates of violent crime than blue states?
https://gigafact.org/fact-briefs/do-red-states-rank-higher-in-violent-crime-rates-than-blue-states
"According to 2019 FBI data, seven out of ten states with the highest per-capita rates of violent crime voted Republican in the 2020 election. In contrast, seven out of ten states with the lowest rates voted Democrat."
I guess your heroic voting is contributing to this.
nice try smith, but as most reasonable people know your three way (whoever they are??) reference is so far off it's hardly a challenge to rebut. if you guys want to tout a civilized society given some of the people running the show, gascon(los angeles), krasner(philly), fox(chicago), gardner(st louis), chisholm(milwaukee) etc etc and now illinois signed into law something called the "safe t act?? is anything but safe
" Cordero: Heritage recently released a new report, a rebuttal to the Third Way's report that shows that Democrat policies in Democrat led cities and counties are responsible for rising crime rates in these red states. In fact, in the 30 American cities with the highest murder rates, 27 have Democratic mayors."
you can read (i think) the whole conversation here-
https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/heritage-explains/the-blue-city-murder-problem
if you don't think the defund the police, no bail crap isn't having an affect on crime...?? and those are definitely not policies endorsed by red state officials. crime doesn't typically go state by state as much as it goes city by city or county by county. texas for example is a red state, but most of the larger municipalities are run by lefties such as yourself. austin, texas for example is a chit show of crime. it sure in the hell ain't run by red state people
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 17, 2023, 05:35:37 PM
nice try smith, but as most reasonable people know your three way (whoever they are??) reference is so far off it's hardly a challenge to rebut. if you guys want to tout a civilized society given some of the people running the show, gascon(los angeles), krasner(philly), fox(chicago), gardner(st louis), chisholm(milwaukee) etc etc and now illinois signed into law something called the "safe t act?? is anything but safe
" Cordero: Heritage recently released a new report, a rebuttal to the Third Way's report that shows that Democrat policies in Democrat led cities and counties are responsible for rising crime rates in these red states. In fact, in the 30 American cities with the highest murder rates, 27 have Democratic mayors."
you can read (i think) the whole conversation here-
https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/heritage-explains/the-blue-city-murder-problem
if you don't think the defund the police, no bail crap isn't having an affect on crime...?? and those are definitely not policies endorsed by red state officials. crime doesn't typically go state by state as much as it goes city by city or county by county. texas for example is a red state, but most of the larger municipalities are run by lefties such as yourself. austin, texas for example is a chit show of crime. it sure in the hell ain't run by red state people
God you are dumb.
Quote from: Spirit Of James on February 16, 2023, 12:20:10 PM
My son and I fortunately came away unscathed from an attempted carjacking yesterday near Fiserv before the game. I left the car to feed the meter (taking the key fob with me), and he jumped in the driver's seat. I heard the door slam, and within seconds, I was opening the passenger door to confront him. He tried taking a couple swings at me to back me off, while I was yelling that there was a 5-year old in the backseat. He literally stopped what he was doing (which was trying to figure out how to start the car and put it in drive), turned around to look at my son, then jumped out into the getaway car that was waiting right next to my vehicle. This happened on MLK between Juneau and Highland, just south of Carson's and just north of Third Street Tavern around 4:45pm. I don't have much info to give the police other than the car they used was a black SUV. I know it's a long shot, but this is a very busy area with foot and street traffic. If anyone happened to see this and could provide any further info, please let me know. Thanks MU fam!
The fact this happened in broad daylight , in a busy area is outrageous. Thank God, You and Your son escaped unharmed.
Hopefully you gave a good description of these individuals to the police.
As more of these crimes happens, it becomes harder and harder to turn the city around. Before you know it Milwaukee will become another St. Louis or Detroit.
Quote from: Spirit Of James on February 16, 2023, 12:20:10 PM
My son and I fortunately came away unscathed from an attempted carjacking yesterday near Fiserv before the game. I left the car to feed the meter (taking the key fob with me), and he jumped in the driver's seat. I heard the door slam, and within seconds, I was opening the passenger door to confront him. He tried taking a couple swings at me to back me off, while I was yelling that there was a 5-year old in the backseat. He literally stopped what he was doing (which was trying to figure out how to start the car and put it in drive), turned around to look at my son, then jumped out into the getaway car that was waiting right next to my vehicle. This happened on MLK between Juneau and Highland, just south of Carson's and just north of Third Street Tavern around 4:45pm. I don't have much info to give the police other than the car they used was a black SUV. I know it's a long shot, but this is a very busy area with foot and street traffic. If anyone happened to see this and could provide any further info, please let me know. Thanks MU fam!
Glad to hear you and your son are ok!
After the game on Wednesday I returned to my truck with a window smashed and someone had clearly rummaged through my glove compartment, my guess is they were searching for money or a concealed carry. Thankfully nothing was taken but having to get a window replaced sure is annoying, along with the eerie feeling of someone invading your property.
Parked in the lot across from Bombers too, wild how this is happening in such populated areas now. About 10 other cars in the same lot were broken into as well.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 17, 2023, 05:35:37 PM
nice try smith, but as most reasonable people know your three way (whoever they are??) reference is so far off it's hardly a challenge to rebut. if you guys want to tout a civilized society given some of the people running the show, gascon(los angeles), krasner(philly), fox(chicago), gardner(st louis), chisholm(milwaukee) etc etc and now illinois signed into law something called the "safe t act?? is anything but safe
" Cordero: Heritage recently released a new report, a rebuttal to the Third Way's report that shows that Democrat policies in Democrat led cities and counties are responsible for rising crime rates in these red states. In fact, in the 30 American cities with the highest murder rates, 27 have Democratic mayors."
(https://images2.imgbox.com/05/8d/hdDENo7U_o.jpg) (https://imgbox.com/hdDENo7U)
Six shot dead today in Arkabutla, Miss., a tiny, rural (deep-red), majority-white town.
https://apnews.com/article/shootings-mississippi-town-arkabutla-caf3fbdbfcb31a3f8e4e3c3e777089ee?user_email=6647dfa7189f748384d7389910f7b584c6fcfc35ae990102964c7e826d4175c7&utm_medium=Afternoon_Wire&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_campaign=Afternoon%20Wire%20Feb.%2017&utm_term=Afternoon%20Wire
Obviously, roQQet is right to blame the mayor of Austin for this one.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 17, 2023, 07:32:10 PM
God you are dumb.
i know you don't care man but when you dis me as such, you just dis'd quite a few others here as well. no surprise coming from a indoctrinated lifer in admin. not as smart as you think you are, but again, color me shocked. your middle name must start with an "N" and no, it isn't the racist term
Quote from: MU82 on February 17, 2023, 10:29:18 PM
Six shot dead today in Arkabutla, Miss., a tiny, rural (deep-red), majority-white town.
https://apnews.com/article/shootings-mississippi-town-arkabutla-caf3fbdbfcb31a3f8e4e3c3e777089ee?user_email=6647dfa7189f748384d7389910f7b584c6fcfc35ae990102964c7e826d4175c7&utm_medium=Afternoon_Wire&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_campaign=Afternoon%20Wire%20Feb.%2017&utm_term=Afternoon%20Wire
Obviously, roQQet is right to blame the mayor of Austin for this one.
And this is posted on the Marquette Crime Reports because........
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 18, 2023, 07:16:41 AM
And this is posted on the Marquette Crime Reports because........
Correlates to the roQQet-TSmith discussion. Also goes to the dentists' hair-on-fire belief that crime only happens near the Marquette campus and/or in big cities.
Can this thread finally be shut down and not allowed to return?
Quote from: GOO on February 18, 2023, 07:59:36 AM
Can this thread finally be shut down and not allowed to return?
Amen
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 18, 2023, 05:50:15 AM
i know you don't care man but when you dis me as such, you just dis'd quite a few others here as well. no surprise coming from a indoctrinated lifer in admin. not as smart as you think you are, but again, color me shocked. your middle name must start with an "N" and no, it isn't the racist term
L oh l
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 18, 2023, 05:50:15 AM
i know you don't care man but when you dis me as such, you just dis'd quite a few others here as well. no surprise coming from a indoctrinated lifer in admin. not as smart as you think you are, but again, color me shocked. your middle name must start with an "N" and no, it isn't the racist term
He's not the only one who thinks the way he does, so it can't just be chalked up to him being an indoctrinated lifer in blah blah blah. Do you ever go back and read the gibberish you write?
Quote from: GOO on February 18, 2023, 07:59:36 AM
Can this thread finally be shut down and not allowed to return?
And end doc's very sincere and altruistic campaign to keep fellow Scoopers informed of critical issues affecting our community?
But obsessing over the hausers and posting crime by dentists all over the country is a good use of this forum?
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Reported shots fired
Incident location: 1900 block of St. Paul Avenue
Approximate time: 9:05 p.m.
Victims: N/A
Physical injuries: N/A
Description
MUPD responded to a report of shots fired into the air from a moving vehicle traveling along St. Paul Avenue. MUPD continues to investigate.
Since 4never usually doesn't post the positive stories:
Marquette University Police safely locate missing 12-year-old boy (https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2023/03/12/marquette-university-police-seek-help-finding-missing-endangered-boy/70001255007/)
The Marquette University Police Department has safely located a 12-year-old boy who was reported as missing and endangered Sunday.William Flanigan, who has autism and a limited understanding of navigating his surroundings, left his foster home and was last seen at 6 p.m. Sunday, according to Marquette University Police. He was reported as safe shortly before midnight.
Don't ruin the narrative
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shooting
Incident location: 700 block of West Wisconsin Avenue
Approximate time: 5:05 p.m.
Victims: One male, not affiliated with Marquette
Physical injuries: The victim suffered physical injuries and was taken to the hospital for treatment
Three suspects approached the victim and demanded property. After a verbal altercation in which a suspect produced a weapon, the suspect discharged the weapon that struck the victim. The suspects fled eastbound on West Wisconsin Avenue on foot, last seen on the 600 block of West Clybourn Street.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 22, 2023, 06:35:02 PM
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shooting
Incident location: 700 block of West Wisconsin Avenue
Approximate time: 5:05 p.m.
Victims: One male, not affiliated with Marquette
Physical injuries: The victim suffered physical injuries and was taken to the hospital for treatment
Three suspects approached the victim and demanded property. After a verbal altercation in which a suspect produced a weapon, the suspect discharged the weapon that struck the victim. The suspects fled eastbound on West Wisconsin Avenue on foot, last seen on the 600 block of West Clybourn Street.
700 W. Wisconsin Ave?
GTFOH
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shooting
Incident location: West Michigan Ave and 600 block of North 23rd Street
Approximate time: 8:25 p.m.
Victims: One male, not affiliated with Marquette
Physical injuries: The victim suffered a gunshot wound and was taken to the hospital for treatment.
MUPD responded to a report of shots fired. A male victim was shot in the hallway inside his apartment by a male suspect who fled. The victim was taken to the hospital for treatment. MPD is leading the investigation and MUPD is assisting.
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Robbery
Incident location: 1700 block of West Kilbourn Ave.
Approximate time: 11:55 a.m.
Victims: One female, affiliated with Marquette
Physical injuries: The victim did not report physical injuries, but was taken to the hospital as a precaution
A Marquette student was struck by a suspect, who then removed a bag from her possession and fled. The suspect was then taken into custody by MUPD at approximately 12 p.m. and there is no active threat to campus.
Congrats. You found an actual crime near campus involving a student. Finally something relevant.
Sorry for the person robbed. That sucks. Glad they caught the Perp.
Quote from: GOO on April 05, 2023, 07:42:39 AM
Congrats. You found an actual crime near campus involving a student. Finally something relevant.
Sorry for the person robbed. That sucks. Glad they caught the Perp.
I'm sure he'll be locked up for a long time
I cannot believe this is real life:
"Pre-prom photo location in Milwaukee sparks debate in New Berlin"https://www.gmtoday.com/the_freeman/news/pre-prom-photo-location-in-milwaukee-sparks-debate-in-new-berlin/article_34811749-d4f5-5843-94c9-8b3b995d44cb.html (https://www.gmtoday.com/the_freeman/news/pre-prom-photo-location-in-milwaukee-sparks-debate-in-new-berlin/article_34811749-d4f5-5843-94c9-8b3b995d44cb.html)
Quote"Who in their right mind thought it was a good idea to have a bunch of teenagers head to downtown Milwaukee, with all the reckless driving, all the crime, blocks away from where there was just a shootout that caught innocent bystanders in the crossfire less than a week prior," Clark's letter to the school administration said.
We've got 3 kids. I don't think two weeks go by that we as a family are not downtown for dinner, a Fiserv event, shopping or just exploring. It just saddens me that people believe the hype and avoid all that living in Metro Milwaukee has to offer.
Quote from: The Lens on April 21, 2023, 09:01:12 AM
I cannot believe this is real life:
"Pre-prom photo location in Milwaukee sparks debate in New Berlin"
https://www.gmtoday.com/the_freeman/news/pre-prom-photo-location-in-milwaukee-sparks-debate-in-new-berlin/article_34811749-d4f5-5843-94c9-8b3b995d44cb.html (https://www.gmtoday.com/the_freeman/news/pre-prom-photo-location-in-milwaukee-sparks-debate-in-new-berlin/article_34811749-d4f5-5843-94c9-8b3b995d44cb.html)
We've got 3 kids. I don't think two weeks go by that we as a family are not downtown for dinner, a Fiserv event, shopping or just exploring. It just saddens me that people believe the hype and avoid all that living in Metro Milwaukee has to offer.
Surprised any of these people would allow their kids to play any sports near MUHS.
Who knew crime was new to downtown Milwaukee since the pandemic hit?
My favorite part is them bitching about the parking.
I just hope those people never let their kids near Nashville, Uvalde, Parkland, Newtown, Charleston, Buffalo, Las Vegas, etc etc etc etc etc.
Keep 'em in a bubble, because shootings never happen in a small town like Bowdoin, Maine.
Quote from: The Lens on April 21, 2023, 09:01:12 AM
I cannot believe this is real life:
"Pre-prom photo location in Milwaukee sparks debate in New Berlin"
https://www.gmtoday.com/the_freeman/news/pre-prom-photo-location-in-milwaukee-sparks-debate-in-new-berlin/article_34811749-d4f5-5843-94c9-8b3b995d44cb.html (https://www.gmtoday.com/the_freeman/news/pre-prom-photo-location-in-milwaukee-sparks-debate-in-new-berlin/article_34811749-d4f5-5843-94c9-8b3b995d44cb.html)
We've got 3 kids. I don't think two weeks go by that we as a family are not downtown for dinner, a Fiserv event, shopping or just exploring. It just saddens me that people believe the hype and avoid all that living in Metro Milwaukee has to offer.
A cursory google search tells me that Nik Clark is a crazy person who is obsessed with guns and perpetually afraid for his life. He's the President of Wisconsincarry.org, and on the website posted a few rants, here is an example:
Quote11/10/2020
Fascistbook Strikes Again!
Without warning or reason given, Facebook (which is now colloquially known as Fascistbook) has deleted the account of Wisconsin Carry, Inc. President and Chairman Nik Clark. This pattern of egregious censorship by "Big Tech" is troubling. Facebook needs to face anti-trust action from the US Dept of Justice for the monopoly it has become. Some even suggest R.I.C.O. statutes might be more appropriate. Media and press may contact the Wisconsin Carry, Inc. President at nik@wisconsincarry.org
He's been on TV and public radio a few times and has his own podcast. So you can probably surmise his true intentions.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 21, 2023, 10:39:44 AM
A cursory google search tells me that Nik Clark is a crazy person who is obsessed with guns and perpetually afraid for his life. He's the President of Wisconsincarry.org, and on the website posted a few rants, here is an example:
He's been on TV and public radio a few times and has his own podcast. So you can probably surmise his true intentions.
New Berlin sucks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qQMdUKqAOQ
Haha. Guy carries his gun for protection, but is scared to go to Milwaukee.
Quote from: withoutbias on April 21, 2023, 11:12:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qQMdUKqAOQ
Haha. Guy carries his gun for protection, but is scared to go to Milwaukee.
He looks like he has wanted to be a cop for decades but hasn't been able to pass the mental health exam.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 21, 2023, 10:39:44 AM
A cursory google search tells me that Nik Clark is a crazy person who is obsessed with guns and perpetually afraid for his life. He's the President of Wisconsincarry.org, and on the website posted a few rants, here is an example:
He's been on TV and public radio a few times and has his own podcast. So you can probably surmise his true intentions.
That rant coulda been written by a coupla Scoopers, although at least one would need to improve his spelling and grammar to reach that yahoo's level.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 21, 2023, 09:11:40 AM
Surprised any of these people would allow their kids to play any sports near MUHS.
Who knew crime was new to downtown Milwaukee since the pandemic hit?
I dove into the Waukesha Freeman facebook comments and boy oh boy.
One woman..."unles they take the freeway they will be driving through reall bad areas, like REALLY BAD"
You know what Google suggest for avoid freeways:
Moorland north to Bluemound
Bluemound east until it becomes Wisconsin Ave
Wisconsin Ave east to MPL
The only possible "bad area" on that route is where my son goes to HS every single day. These people kill me.
Quote from: The Lens on April 21, 2023, 01:26:12 PM
I dove into the Waukesha Freeman facebook comments and boy oh boy.
One woman..."unles they take the freeway they will be driving through reall bad areas, like REALLY BAD"
You know what Google suggest for avoid freeways:
Moorland north to Bluemound
Bluemound east until it becomes Wisconsin Ave
Wisconsin Ave east to MPL
The only possible "bad area" on that route is where my son goes to HS every single day. These people kill me.
There's a lot of dumb people in the world and you can find many of them commenting on Facebook
maybe the news should just stop with all the stuff about carjacking and shootings because all it's doing is creating delusional people who don't know squat about cities. focus news reports on the people who don't get their cars strong armed from them. more people can go downtown without hardly hearing a gun shot. if they do, it's far enough away not to mess up a nice prom dress.
obviously some eager "journalist" wanted to report on how some people view milwaukee whether you like it or not. and karen sure did find some.
ya know how you avoid being that potential "being in the wrong place at the wrong time person"? as a parent, it's ok to be concerned. actually, it's refreshing to hear that we still have some parents concerned about the activities of their kids
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 21, 2023, 05:15:01 PM
maybe the news should just stop with all the stuff about carjacking and shootings because all it's doing is creating delusional people who don't know squat about cities. focus news reports on the people who don't get their cars strong armed from them. more people can go downtown without hardly hearing a gun shot. if they do, it's far enough away not to mess up a nice prom dress.
obviously some eager "journalist" wanted to report on how some people view milwaukee whether you like it or not. and karen sure did find some.
ya know how you avoid being that potential "being in the wrong place at the wrong time person"? as a parent, it's ok to be concerned. actually, it's refreshing to hear that we still have some parents concerned about the activities of their kids
😂😂😂
Quote from: withoutbias on April 21, 2023, 11:12:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qQMdUKqAOQ
Haha. Guy carries his gun for protection, but is scared to go to Milwaukee.
Terrified loser.
That wrong place wrong time is something that really resonates with me bc our son is a freshman Marquette High. He spends every single day at 34th and Michigan. About a month ago he and his carpool were hit at 30th in Michigan when car going 50 MPH flew through a stop sign. It should've T-boned my son. Instead the kid driving was able to swerve enough that it ended up just being a sideswipe. My son went from probably two broken legs (at best) to being able to walk away. Needless to say, I understand reckless driving in the city of Milwaukee.
Beyond going to school at 34th & Michigan is he runs cross country and he ran all winter which means every day he leaves from 35th and Wisconsin and runs to the Domes or to the Hank Aaron Trail or to Doyne & Jacobus Parks through Miller Valley. The route to all those places ain't pretty and he does this every single day, and he always tells me it's the best part of his day, he loves to explore all parts of the city.
When I think back about the accident, here's what I think about:
- He learned that the kid who was driving his carpool had his head on a swivel and was able to make an instant reaction because he was paying attention. That's an invaluable lesson to a kid about to get his temps.
- He learned how to call the cops and wait for their arrival to give a police report
- And he learned that at 30th and Michigan that when 3 Whitefish Bay kids crash their Volkswagen that people from a neighborhood completely different from theirs still come running outside to make sure they're OK and offer support / help. He learned about how there's compassion from groups all across the city. I hate saying he goes to school in a bad area...he goes to school in a poor area.
So in someways I don't see that accident as a con. I will see it as a pro.
He learned a lot that day and it really, really, REALLY bothers me that there are people outside of the city who don't want to come in because of a few hiccups.
IMO, it's disgraceful and it goes against everyting Christ taught us.
Additionally (bc this is long enough) I own a company at 14th & St Paul. 26 employees who love coming to work and our building is a huge part of our morale (free parking). I work out at the Rec Plex (across the street from MPL) daily, I eat / shop on MU's campus on a daily basis. It sickens me that people delight in the 1% of problems and not revel in the 99% of good. I am there EVERY SINGLE DAY. I see it all. If you have a problem, the problem is you.
Back to "wrong place, wrong time" I'm so happy that my son is exposed to real life on a daily basis, and I hope that these other New Berlin West kids will evetually be too.
Peace.
Quote from: The Lens on April 22, 2023, 12:43:22 AM
That wrong place wrong time is something that really resonates with me bc our son is a freshman Marquette High. He spends every single day at 34th and Michigan. About a month ago he and his carpool were hit at 30th in Michigan when car going 50 MPH flew through a stop sign. It should've T-bond my son. Instead the kid driving was able to swerve enough that it ended up just being a sideswipe. My son went from probably two broken legs (at best) to being able to walk away. Needless to say, I understand reckless driving in the city of Milwaukee.
Beyond going to school at 34th & Michigan is he runs cross country and he ran all winter which means every day he leaves from 35th and Wisconsin and runs to the Domes or to the Hank Aaron Trail or to Doyne & Jacobus Parks through Miller Valley. The route to all those places ain't pretty and he does this every single day, and he always tells me it's the best part of his day, he loves to explore all parts of the city.
When I think back about the accident, here's what I think about:
- He learned that the kid who was driving his carpool had his head on a swivel and was able to make an instant reaction because he was paying attention. That's an invaluable lesson to a kid about to get his temps.
- He learned how to call the cops and wait for their arrival to give a police report
- And he learned that at 30th and Michigan that when 3 Whitefish Bay kids crash their Volkswagen that people from a neighborhood completely different from theirs still come running outside to make sure they're OK and offer support / help. He learned about how there's compassion from groups all across the city. I hate saying he goes to school in a bad area...he goes to school in a poor area.
So in someways I don't see that accident as a con. I will see it as a pro.
He learned a lot that day and it really, really, REALLY bothers me that there are people outside of the city who don't want to come in because of a few hiccups.
IMO, it's disgraceful and it goes against everyting Christ taught us.
Additionally (bc this is long enough) I own a company at 14th & St Paul. 26 employees who love coming to work and our building is a huge part of our morale (free parking). I work out at the Rec Plex (across the street from MPL) daily, I eat / shop on MU's campus on a daily basis. It sickens me that people delight in the 1% of problems and not revel in the 99% of good. I am there EVERY SINGLE DAY. I see it all. If you have a problem, the problem is you.
Back to "wrong place, wrong time" I'm so happy that my son is exposed to real life on a daily basis, and I hope that these other New Berlin West kids will evetually be too.
Peace.
good story lens and thanks for sharing. i am happy for all of you who came out of that situation as you did which could have ended in many different ways. i believe God has a plan for all of us and "things" do happen for a reason. if you don't look for the "reasons" well, the learning point is lost.
i don't see many reveling nor taking joy in the plights of some, but would rather see an improvement/elimination of or action against the sources of the bad behaviors. the running of stop lights or ignoring our laws in general followed by the lack of enforcement has lead to an unnecessary continuation of said behaviors. if we fail to punish bad behavior, expect more of it.
we are hearing of way way too many DA's NOT enforcing even some of our most basic crimes. case in point-alvin bragg will not prosecute certain crimes such as theft in order to establish racial equity.
i didn't think that was part of his oath, rather i thought it was to preserve and protect the rule of the law NOT to redefine or make up his own.
in any event, some people are genuinely afraid, just as some are afraid of lightning strikes. once we start to see real efforts to IMPROVE, not perfect our systems of law and order, some people will remain afraid.
i love milwaukee as well. i have had probably a few more instances than i would have preferred of potentially bad situations that could have gone much worse as well. it hasn't kept me from continuing to visit milwaukee, but i probably do not visit as much as i used to. i find myself avoiding a few more areas than i used to and i am a conceal and carry guy. i DO NOT want to find out how it works because it IS life changing. the goal is that i am still alive to talk about it. most people never have to use it and that is a very good thing. most just want that chance IF it unfortunately should occur.
very long, (but very true) story short, about 6-7 years ago, shortly after getting my C & C following hours of courses and having grown up around guns, i needed my gun. i did not fire it however, but merely "badged" it. i had 3 guys running straight at my while stuck in the middle of traffic at a red light. i didn't stick it out my window nor aim it at them. i just held it up so they could see it. they all face planted, the light turned green and i went straight to the cop shop to report it. they called me that night to tell me they got one of the guys. what consequences he received, i don't know
back in 1979, my room mate and i walking home from library at 4 in the afternoon down wisco ave had a gun pulled on us. car full of dudes pulled up to ask directions, pulled the gun out, started laughing while we ducked and ran our asses off hoping not to hear shots.
wrong place, wrong time but learning experiences for sure
i commend your courage and committment and wish you nothing the best lensie-PEACE-
Quote from: The Lens on April 22, 2023, 12:43:22 AM
That wrong place wrong time is something that really resonates with me bc our son is a freshman Marquette High. He spends every single day at 34th and Michigan. About a month ago he and his carpool were hit at 30th in Michigan when car going 50 MPH flew through a stop sign. It should've T-bond my son. Instead the kid driving was able to swerve enough that it ended up just being a sideswipe. My son went from probably two broken legs (at best) to being able to walk away. Needless to say, I understand reckless driving in the city of Milwaukee.
Beyond going to school at 34th & Michigan is he runs cross country and he ran all winter which means every day he leaves from 35th and Wisconsin and runs to the Domes or to the Hank Aaron Trail or to Doyne & Jacobus Parks through Miller Valley. The route to all those places ain't pretty and he does this every single day, and he always tells me it's the best part of his day, he loves to explore all parts of the city.
When I think back about the accident, here's what I think about:
- He learned that the kid who was driving his carpool had his head on a swivel and was able to make an instant reaction because he was paying attention. That's an invaluable lesson to a kid about to get his temps.
- He learned how to call the cops and wait for their arrival to give a police report
- And he learned that at 30th and Michigan that when 3 Whitefish Bay kids crash their Volkswagen that people from a neighborhood completely different from theirs still come running outside to make sure they're OK and offer support / help. He learned about how there's compassion from groups all across the city. I hate saying he goes to school in a bad area...he goes to school in a poor area.
So in someways I don't see that accident as a con. I will see it as a pro.
He learned a lot that day and it really, really, REALLY bothers me that there are people outside of the city who don't want to come in because of a few hiccups.
IMO, it's disgraceful and it goes against everyting Christ taught us.
Additionally (bc this is long enough) I own a company at 14th & St Paul. 26 employees who love coming to work and our building is a huge part of our morale (free parking). I work out at the Rec Plex (across the street from MPL) daily, I eat / shop on MU's campus on a daily basis. It sickens me that people delight in the 1% of problems and not revel in the 99% of good. I am there EVERY SINGLE DAY. I see it all. If you have a problem, the problem is you.
Back to "wrong place, wrong time" I'm so happy that my son is exposed to real life on a daily basis, and I hope that these other New Berlin West kids will evetually be too.
Peace.
That's really awesome stuff. Thanks for sharing.
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shots fired
Incident location: 22nd Street and W. Wells Street
Approximate time: 2:45 a.m.
Victims: N/A
Physical injuries: N/A
Report of shots fired near 22nd Street and Wells Street. No physical injuries reported.
Quote from: The Lens on April 22, 2023, 12:43:22 AM
That wrong place wrong time is something that really resonates with me bc our son is a freshman Marquette High. He spends every single day at 34th and Michigan. About a month ago he and his carpool were hit at 30th in Michigan when car going 50 MPH flew through a stop sign. It should've T-bond my son. Instead the kid driving was able to swerve enough that it ended up just being a sideswipe. My son went from probably two broken legs (at best) to being able to walk away. Needless to say, I understand reckless driving in the city of Milwaukee.
Beyond going to school at 34th & Michigan is he runs cross country and he ran all winter which means every day he leaves from 35th and Wisconsin and runs to the Domes or to the Hank Aaron Trail or to Doyne & Jacobus Parks through Miller Valley. The route to all those places ain't pretty and he does this every single day, and he always tells me it's the best part of his day, he loves to explore all parts of the city.
When I think back about the accident, here's what I think about:
- He learned that the kid who was driving his carpool had his head on a swivel and was able to make an instant reaction because he was paying attention. That's an invaluable lesson to a kid about to get his temps.
- He learned how to call the cops and wait for their arrival to give a police report
- And he learned that at 30th and Michigan that when 3 Whitefish Bay kids crash their Volkswagen that people from a neighborhood completely different from theirs still come running outside to make sure they're OK and offer support / help. He learned about how there's compassion from groups all across the city. I hate saying he goes to school in a bad area...he goes to school in a poor area.
So in someways I don't see that accident as a con. I will see it as a pro.
He learned a lot that day and it really, really, REALLY bothers me that there are people outside of the city who don't want to come in because of a few hiccups.
IMO, it's disgraceful and it goes against everyting Christ taught us.
Additionally (bc this is long enough) I own a company at 14th & St Paul. 26 employees who love coming to work and our building is a huge part of our morale (free parking). I work out at the Rec Plex (across the street from MPL) daily, I eat / shop on MU's campus on a daily basis. It sickens me that people delight in the 1% of problems and not revel in the 99% of good. I am there EVERY SINGLE DAY. I see it all. If you have a problem, the problem is you.
Back to "wrong place, wrong time" I'm so happy that my son is exposed to real life on a daily basis, and I hope that these other New Berlin West kids will evetually be too.
Peace.
100%, and so glad your son and others were okay in that crash. As a freshman, my soccer playing son trained at Merrill and while not the CC kids now walks to Quad, St Rose, my other son (freshman in college) would go to a vacant warehouse a few blocks away to run the robot for the robotics team. I love that they go/went to school at MUHS. It is certainly more "protected" but the boys have to learn how to be aware, how to be kind, how to be smart. Now my older son goes to school in West Philly, thank goodness he had some experiences at MUHS to turn to.
One day I was driving my son to school for an afternoon training and a beat up, tinted windowed car was puttering along. They turned right onto Michigan at Takton Field, I pulled up next to them. I think they were just as shocked as my son. Guy rolls down his widow, and I ask if they need some help, a lift to the mechanic nearby, anything. They said no thanks, and I answered with well I'll be at MUHS for awhile parked right there, come find me if you do. I was met with a "God bless you, thank you." And, son was met with be smart, be kind.
When kids are exposed to things outside our lily white suburbs, their perception of people and the world expands, their compassion expands. That is ALWAYS a good thing. Now, don't get me wrong, it is different going to school in a city, it is more dangerous with that intersection at 35th and Michigan, my son was nearly T-boned at the light coming off of the highway getting onto 35th at Park Hill, now he knows to take a pause. Anyway, I'd rather my son be aware than afraid.
Quote from: The Lens on April 22, 2023, 12:43:22 AM
That wrong place wrong time is something that really resonates with me bc our son is a freshman Marquette High. He spends every single day at 34th and Michigan. About a month ago he and his carpool were hit at 30th in Michigan when car going 50 MPH flew through a stop sign. It should've T-bond my son. Instead the kid driving was able to swerve enough that it ended up just being a sideswipe. My son went from probably two broken legs (at best) to being able to walk away. Needless to say, I understand reckless driving in the city of Milwaukee.
Beyond going to school at 34th & Michigan is he runs cross country and he ran all winter which means every day he leaves from 35th and Wisconsin and runs to the Domes or to the Hank Aaron Trail or to Doyne & Jacobus Parks through Miller Valley. The route to all those places ain't pretty and he does this every single day, and he always tells me it's the best part of his day, he loves to explore all parts of the city.
When I think back about the accident, here's what I think about:
- He learned that the kid who was driving his carpool had his head on a swivel and was able to make an instant reaction because he was paying attention. That's an invaluable lesson to a kid about to get his temps.
- He learned how to call the cops and wait for their arrival to give a police report
- And he learned that at 30th and Michigan that when 3 Whitefish Bay kids crash their Volkswagen that people from a neighborhood completely different from theirs still come running outside to make sure they're OK and offer support / help. He learned about how there's compassion from groups all across the city. I hate saying he goes to school in a bad area...he goes to school in a poor area.
So in someways I don't see that accident as a con. I will see it as a pro.
He learned a lot that day and it really, really, REALLY bothers me that there are people outside of the city who don't want to come in because of a few hiccups.
IMO, it's disgraceful and it goes against everyting Christ taught us.
Additionally (bc this is long enough) I own a company at 14th & St Paul. 26 employees who love coming to work and our building is a huge part of our morale (free parking). I work out at the Rec Plex (across the street from MPL) daily, I eat / shop on MU's campus on a daily basis. It sickens me that people delight in the 1% of problems and not revel in the 99% of good. I am there EVERY SINGLE DAY. I see it all. If you have a problem, the problem is you.
Back to "wrong place, wrong time" I'm so happy that my son is exposed to real life on a daily basis, and I hope that these other New Berlin West kids will evetually be too.
Peace.
Lens
Great post, glad your son and his friends are OK. I think most people can deal with life's randomness for themselves. When their children are it's victim it's more difficult. Difficult but necessary if you want to experience and teach them to experience anything that resembles a meaningful life.
Updates from Marquette Police
Safety Update: Suspect from May Campus Town West burglaries in custody
A suspect in the burglaries that occurred in Campus Town West this past May was taken into custody by the Marquette University Police Department this morning. The suspect was arrested following the incident in May, but failed to show up for a court hearing this week, leading to an active warrant.
MUPD reminds the campus community to lock all residence and car doors. If you observe any suspicious behavior or fear for your safety at any time, contact MUPD at (414) 288-1911 or through the mobile Blue Light feature on the Eagle Eye app.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 13, 2023, 12:18:45 PM
Updates from Marquette Police
Safety Update: Suspect from May Campus Town West burglaries in custody
A suspect in the burglaries that occurred in Campus Town West this past May was taken into custody by the Marquette University Police Department this morning. The suspect was arrested following the incident in May, but failed to show up for a court hearing this week, leading to an active warrant.
MUPD reminds the campus community to lock all residence and car doors. If you observe any suspicious behavior or fear for your safety at any time, contact MUPD at (414) 288-1911 or through the mobile Blue Light feature on the Eagle Eye app.
I was in Mequon this morning and got cut off by someone in a gray Lexus with a plate that said either Psalm 26 or Psalm 27. Know him? Looked OLD. Probably shouldn't be driving
O, is the Farmer's Market on today? Musta been the housekeepin' help. Generally, the residents are shoutin' Benz, BMW, or Range Rovers, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 13, 2023, 12:29:19 PM
O, is the Farmer's Market on today? Musta been the housekeepin' help. Generally, the residents are shoutin' Benz, BMW, or Range Rovers, hey?
Keep electing the same officials and your streets will remain dangerous
Man, ya can say dat again, Bro, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 13, 2023, 12:53:32 PM
Man, ya can say dat again, Bro, hey?
Law and order, aina?
Damn straight! Now you're talkin', kemosabe, aina?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 13, 2023, 12:27:05 PM
I was in Mequon this morning and got cut off by someone in a gray Lexus with a plate that said either Psalm 26 or Psalm 27. Know him? Looked OLD. Probably shouldn't be driving
a lot of assumptions there reeko-getting old and cut off are reasons for someone not to drive? how old is too old? if you were acting anything like you do on this board, i'm sure he did ya favor by only cutting you off
Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 13, 2023, 03:18:32 PM
a lot of assumptions there reeko-getting old and cut off are reasons for someone not to drive? how old is too old? if you were acting anything like you do on this board, i'm sure he did ya favor by only cutting you off
Anyone over 60 shouldn't be allowed to drive without passing a yearly drivers test, along with taking a vision and hearing test. They should also have a camera and GPS attached to their cars to monitor their driving.
Wen wuz da last tyme ewe drove anywhere in da city of Milwaukee? Talk 'bout crap shoots. Ya stood a better chance of survival walkin' in a mine field in 'Nam than you do drivin' down Capitol Dr., hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 13, 2023, 06:06:09 PM
Wen wuz da last tyme ewe drove anywhere in da city of Milwaukee? Talk 'bout crap shoots. Ya stood a better chance of survival walkin' in a mine field in 'Nam than you do drivin' down Capitol Dr., hey?
Not really. Vietnam was a war zone.
Anyway, old people shouldn't drive without the parameters I laid out.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 13, 2023, 06:06:09 PM
Wen wuz da last tyme ewe drove anywhere in da city of Milwaukee? Talk 'bout crap shoots. Ya stood a better chance of survival walkin' in a mine field in 'Nam than you do drivin' down Capitol Dr., hey?
February. Drove all over. Downtown Chicago, March. Downtown Detroit last Friday and again tomorrow. 16 year old is in Nashville right now. I pity you.
Nah man, spend your time doing somethin' else. I'm good. Just keepin' it real, hey?
Me, too. And you should be celebrating they caught the guy. Always good when a
criminal gets charged, aina?
Drove Burleigh to Roosevelt to Capital to Port Washington and back every day for over 8 years. Somehow survived, and never even a minor scratch on the car.
seems MU students feel safe...until this happens. "prosecutors say mr burnett had items that were not his"
well gosh darn it, correct me if i'm wrong, but that would be stealing, eyn'a?
https://www.fox6now.com/news/marquette-campus-west-apartment-thefts-man-entered-7-homes-complaint
"He made his initial appearance in court May 21 and received a $5,000 signature bond. Burnett was supposed to appear in court for a preliminary hearing on June 9. Court records show he did not show up, and a court commissioner issued a bench warrant."
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Attempted armed robbery
Incident location: North 17th St. and West Clybourn St.
Approximate time: 9:15 a.m.
Victims: One female Marquette student
Physical injuries: None
Two suspects approached a female Marquette student, displayed a weapon and demanded property. The subjects did not obtain property and fled the area in a black Hyundai sedan northbound on 27th Street. The victim was not physically injured. MUPD is investigating.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 12, 2023, 10:50:38 AM
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Attempted armed robbery
Incident location: North 17th St. and West Clybourn St.
Approximate time: 9:15 a.m.
Victims: One female Marquette student
Physical injuries: None
Two suspects approached a female Marquette student, displayed a weapon and demanded property. The subjects did not obtain property and fled the area in a black Hyundai sedan northbound on 27th Street. The victim was not physically injured. MUPD is investigating.
MU's campus must've been much safer recently. Was wondering what happened to you. Been a while.
Quote from: withoutbias on September 12, 2023, 11:11:09 AM
MU's campus must've been much safer recently. Was wondering what happened to you. Been a while.
It's been a rough few days for him. Love balled out on Sunday and Rodgers career is probably over
Kids are soft these days. Let me know when someone actually gets eaten near campus.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on September 12, 2023, 11:50:53 AM
Kids are soft these days. Let me know when someone actually gets eaten near campus.
oh boy... too good
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on September 12, 2023, 11:50:53 AM
Kids are soft these days. Let me know when someone actually gets eaten near campus.
Its college ya know, hey?
17, 2023
The Marquette University Police Department advises the Marquette community to notify MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800 if you see the individual pictured below, who is wanted for questioning regarding two residential burglaries in the Marquette University patrol zone.
Name: Brandon Frank
Age: 27
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 130 lbs
If you observe any suspicious behavior or fear for your safety at any time, contact MUPD at (414) 288-1911 or through the mobile blue light feature on the Eagle Eye app.
5'6?! MUGGSY DEFEND HIS HONOR
Dis iz da ass hole der lookin' four, hey?
Looks like the pic in the dentist thread.
That guy offered me a root canal in the alley behind the campus Starbucks
What shampoo does bro use? Amazing flow
Marquette University Police Department officers have taken into custody a suspect in the residential burglaries in the Marquette University patrol zone, which was shared with the Marquette community via the below update on Sept. 17. Charges are pending.
Marquette University is grateful for the responsiveness and professionalism displayed by our MUPD officers.
Shared Yesterday: Report if Seen – September 17, 2023
The Marquette University Police Department advises the Marquette community to notify MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800 if you see the individual pictured below, who is wanted for questioning regarding two residential burglaries in the Marquette University patrol zone.
Name: Brandon Frank
Age: 27
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 130 lbs
https://twitter.com/tmj4/status/1714372711630176419?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. What is the motivation for blowing up the Al during a volleyball game?
Quote from: tower912 on October 17, 2023, 05:27:59 PM
https://twitter.com/tmj4/status/1714372711630176419?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. What is the motivation for blowing up the Al during a volleyball game?
"Creighton is evil and must be destroyed" was taken literally?
Quote from: tower912 on October 17, 2023, 05:27:59 PM
https://twitter.com/tmj4/status/1714372711630176419?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. What is the motivation for blowing up the Al during a volleyball game?
No, no, no ... We said glow up, not blow up.
Students making bombing threats wearing mid-Eastern garb and filming reactions. Said it to MU police officers. No actual explosives found.
Per the MU Wire.
Dumbasses.
Quote from: tower912 on October 17, 2023, 08:42:53 PM
Students making bombing threats wearing mid-Eastern garb and filming reactions. Said it to MU police officers. No actual explosives found.
Per the MU Wire.
Dumbasses.
Looks like either a joke carried too far, or the worst idea for a social experiment ever.
https://marquettewire.org/4108413/news/threat-deterred-at-the-al/
Or both.
Quote from: tower912 on October 17, 2023, 05:27:59 PM
https://twitter.com/tmj4/status/1714372711630176419?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. What is the motivation for blowing up the Al during a volleyball game?
Imagine being that kids parents. "You walked up to a police officer and threatened to blow up a sporting event.....for a youtube video"
Total morons, aina?
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2023/10/18/marquette-bomb-threat-prank-leads-to-students-being-charged/71221618007/
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 18, 2023, 10:49:50 AM
Total morons, aina?
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2023/10/18/marquette-bomb-threat-prank-leads-to-students-being-charged/71221618007/
Yep.
The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Disorderly conduct with a weapon
Incident location: 12th Street and Kilbourn Ave.
Approximate time: 1:13 a.m.
Victims: Four Marquette students
Physical injuries: None
One male suspect approached multiple Marquette students with a weapon and made general threats. No one was physically injured.
Thanks for the update, Doc.
Safety Update: Wells Tower incident
Earlier this evening, Marquette University Police Department responded to a commercial firework set off by students in a room in Wells Tower residence hall, which damaged a window. Two students were found on the scene, one of whom was transported to the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. The other student has been taken into custody. MUPD is currently investigating. There is no threat to campus.
Office of Residence Life staff and resident assistants in The Commons checked in on students and provided support. Anyone in need of support can contact their RA or hall director or access the following resources:
The Counseling Center serves Marquette students and is open Monday through Friday from 8 a.m. until 4:30 p.m. and offers clinical services both in person and virtual. Students can access by calling the main number or walking in.
For students with pressing mental health needs, crisis services are available 24/7. For life-threatening emergencies:
If on-campus or near-campus, call MUPD at 414.288.1911.
If off-campus, call 911 or go to the nearest emergency department.
For non-life-threatening mental health concerns, call the Counseling Center at 414.288.7172 during regular business hours to speak to a counselor on call or walk into the office in Holthusen Hall, Rm 204.
On weekdays after 4:30 p.m., on weekends and holidays or university closures, call the main Counseling Center number and select option 2 to be connected to a trained mental health professional.
Campus Ministry and its affiliated ministries are available to all students.
This update is available online and will be updated if there is more information.
The Marquette University Police Department responded to the incident below.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shots fired
Incident location: 12th Street and Highland Avenue
Approximate time: 7:31 p.m.
Victims: One female, not affiliated with Marquette.
Physical injuries: The victim suffered a gunshot wound to her arm.
Police received a report of a shooting in the 1400 block of State Street. Upon further investigation, incident happened at the intersection of 12th Street and Highland Avenue in Milwaukee Police Department's jurisdiction. Milwaukee Police Department is leading the investigation.
If you are reporting every one of these, the Marquette area is ridiculously safe.
Which is something wonderful to celebrate.
Terrible news for dentists:
Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're wrong.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585
"Crime in the United States has declined significantly over the last year, according to new FBI data that contradicts a widespread national perception that law-breaking and violence are on the rise.
"The FBI data, which compares crime rates in the third quarter of 2023 to the same period last year, found that violent crime dropped 8%, while property crime fell 6.3% to what would be its lowest level since 1961, according to criminologist Jeff Asher, who analyzed the FBI numbers.
Murder plummeted in the United States in 2023 at one of the fastest rates of decline ever recorded, Asher found, and every category of major crime except auto theft declined.
Yet 92% of Republicans, 78% of independents and 58% of Democrats believe crime is rising, the Gallup survey shows.
The most recent annual report, released in October, covered 94% of the country and found that violent crime in 2022 fell back to pre-pandemic levels, with murder dropping 6.1%.
Asher maintains a separate database of murder in big cities which found that murder is down 12.7 percent this year, after rising during the pandemic.
Retail theft is widely believed to have skyrocketed in some cities, and the industry says it is at "unprecedented" levels. But the data doesn't necessarily support that thesis.
So why are Americans' perceptions about crime so different from the apparent reality? Asher believes there is a measure of partisanship at work — Republicans are more ready to believe crime is increasing while Democrats hold the White House — but he largely chalks it up to media consumption."
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on December 27, 2023, 07:06:16 AM
Terrible news for dentists:
Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're wrong.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585
"Crime in the United States has declined significantly over the last year, according to new FBI data that contradicts a widespread national perception that law-breaking and violence are on the rise.
"The FBI data, which compares crime rates in the third quarter of 2023 to the same period last year, found that violent crime dropped 8%, while property crime fell 6.3% to what would be its lowest level since 1961, according to criminologist Jeff Asher, who analyzed the FBI numbers.
Murder plummeted in the United States in 2023 at one of the fastest rates of decline ever recorded, Asher found, and every category of major crime except auto theft declined.
Yet 92% of Republicans, 78% of independents and 58% of Democrats believe crime is rising, the Gallup survey shows.
The most recent annual report, released in October, covered 94% of the country and found that violent crime in 2022 fell back to pre-pandemic levels, with murder dropping 6.1%.
Asher maintains a separate database of murder in big cities which found that murder is down 12.7 percent this year, after rising during the pandemic.
Retail theft is widely believed to have skyrocketed in some cities, and the industry says it is at "unprecedented" levels. But the data doesn't necessarily support that thesis.
So why are Americans' perceptions about crime so different from the apparent reality? Asher believes there is a measure of partisanship at work — Republicans are more ready to believe crime is increasing while Democrats hold the White House — but he largely chalks it up to media consumption."
Was recently at a corporate event, in discussions with others many corporations are experiencing heavy level of Trucks hijacked, facilities robbed at gunpoint and constant cyber attacks .
They also report many drug related home invasions in the communities they operate in. More and more employees are armed for self protection at home and at work, which creates its own set of problems.
Auto theft in these stats is up and is a precursor to even more violent crime.
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 27, 2023, 08:24:13 AM
Was recently at a corporate event, in discussions with others many corporations are experiencing heavy level of Trucks hijacked, facilities robbed at gunpoint and constant cyber attacks .
They also report many drug related home invasions in the communities they operate in. More and more employees are armed for self protection at home and at work, which creates its own set of problems.
Auto theft in these stats is up and is a precursor to even more violent crime.
Did your meetings with the FBI go well? What advice did you offer them to fight this massive spike in crime.
I am literally scared to even leave my house with this massive spike in crime.
Cyber attacks I can understand, Ive known a number of companies dealing with them recently. On a personal level, the number of times I get BS requests to change my password on various sites (IM LOOKING AT YOU INSTACART) cause people are trying to blunt force hack them is spiking absurdly.
That being said, I work in an industry that deals exclusively in high value items, tons of valuable shipments with not just FedEx/UPS, but also armored trucks, etc... Ive heard basically nothing in terms of spikes in crime or robberies. I actually received a shipment from an armored carrier this morning. I asked my driver, who worked a decade at their JFK and EWR locations before moving to Florida, if hes seen or heard of any increase in crime related to that, in their company or in the industry, and his response was "not at all, thank god"
My wife also works in commerical real estate, specifically multi family community management and ownership. They have a footprint all over the Eastern seaboard, the Midwest, and Plains. She's far more prone to worry and concern than I am, annoyingly so at times :), but they've not seen anything meaningful in terms of break ins or crime at their properties.
YMMV but shrug
Quote from: JWags85 on December 27, 2023, 10:15:15 AM
That being said, I work in an industry that deals exclusively in high value items, tons of valuable shipments with not just FedEx/UPS, but also armored trucks, etc... Ive heard basically nothing in terms of spikes in crime or robberies. I actually received a shipment from an armored carrier this morning. I asked my driver, who worked a decade at their JFK and EWR locations before moving to Florida, if hes seen or heard of any increase in crime related to that, in their company or in the industry, and his response was "not at all, thank god"
Herman also hasn't heard anything about a spike in robberies. Well except for any reported by the NY Post
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on December 27, 2023, 07:06:16 AM
Terrible news for dentists:
Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're wrong.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585
"Crime in the United States has declined significantly over the last year, according to new FBI data that contradicts a widespread national perception that law-breaking and violence are on the rise.
"The FBI data, which compares crime rates in the third quarter of 2023 to the same period last year, found that violent crime dropped 8%, while property crime fell 6.3% to what would be its lowest level since 1961, according to criminologist Jeff Asher, who analyzed the FBI numbers.
Murder plummeted in the United States in 2023 at one of the fastest rates of decline ever recorded, Asher found, and every category of major crime except auto theft declined.
Yet 92% of Republicans, 78% of independents and 58% of Democrats believe crime is rising, the Gallup survey shows.
The most recent annual report, released in October, covered 94% of the country and found that violent crime in 2022 fell back to pre-pandemic levels, with murder dropping 6.1%.
Asher maintains a separate database of murder in big cities which found that murder is down 12.7 percent this year, after rising during the pandemic.
Retail theft is widely believed to have skyrocketed in some cities, and the industry says it is at "unprecedented" levels. But the data doesn't necessarily support that thesis.
So why are Americans' perceptions about crime so different from the apparent reality? Asher believes there is a measure of partisanship at work — Republicans are more ready to believe crime is increasing while Democrats hold the White House — but he largely chalks it up to media consumption."
Due to the decrease in crime, there is no need for additional gun control laws
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 27, 2023, 08:24:13 AM
Was recently at a corporate event, in discussions with others many corporations are experiencing heavy level of Trucks hijacked, facilities robbed at gunpoint and constant cyber attacks .
They also report many drug related home invasions in the communities they operate in. More and more employees are armed for self protection at home and at work, which creates its own set of problems.
Auto theft in these stats is up and is a precursor to even more violent crime.
1) Walking down the street to your friend's house to watch porn on VHS does not constitute a "corporate event".
2) Well, I guess all the data must be wrong then
Quote from: lawdog77 on December 27, 2023, 10:30:58 AM
Due to the decrease in crime, there is no need for additional gun control laws
Pfffftt, it is
because of massive gun ownership that crime is down, obviously. The answer in this case, and every other case, is that no matter whether crime is up or crime is down, more guns are the solution.
If we need any laws passed around guns, it is to
require all Americans to be armed.
The Covenant Parents Aren't Going to Keep Quiet on Guns
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/26/us/politics/nashville-school-shooting-covenant-parents.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20231227&instance_id=111087&nl=the-morning®i_id=108420427&segment_id=153633&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
Mary Joyce told herself she would be kind, just as she always had been. Say enough, but not too much, she reminded herself.
Surely, the members of the Tennessee General Assembly before her would be moved by her testimony at a special session dedicated to public safety.
A moderate conservative herself, she would tell them about the day in March when she dropped off her 9-year-old daughter at the Covenant School, a private Christian school tucked into one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Nashville. She would remind them how an assailant wielding powerful rifles killed three of her daughter's third-grade classmates, the head of the school, a beloved custodian and a substitute teacher.
What she wanted now were modest measures that she believed could have prevented the violence and still be accepted by other Republicans.
Ms. Joyce and other Covenant parents felt they stood a better chance than anyone at cutting through the divisions on gun control. Among them were former Republican aides, gun owners and lifelong conservatives who could afford to spend days at the legislature.
Several parents understood that, for many, the right to bear arms, without any caveat, was an intrinsic piece of American identity. They knew this was particularly true in Tennessee, a state with an official rifle and a history of political retribution for conservatives who disregard the gun lobbyists and their hard-line base.
They had watched efforts led by other parents, galvanized by similar tragedy in Texas and other states, become snarled by politics.
But the Tennessee legislature proved more hostile than the Covenant parents imagined. And when Ms. Joyce heard just one more gun rights supporter dismiss the parents' concerns after days of restraint, her patience snapped.
The shooter at Covenant "hunted our children with a high-capacity rifle," Ms. Joyce cried out, her voice cracking, as she confronted the gun rights supporter in the Capitol rotunda. He walked away, but not before suggesting she listen more closely to his arguments.
"I have held my composure," she said, now openly angry despite the crowd that had gathered. "I have stayed calm. I have been silent and quiet and composed. And I am sick of it. Listen to me."
Glad these parents aren't giving up. But they stand no chance against right-wingnuts like these Tennessee politicians, who prefer ARs FOR EVERYBODY! to kids' lives.
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 27, 2023, 08:24:13 AM
Was recently at a corporate event, in discussions with others many corporations are experiencing heavy level of Trucks hijacked, facilities robbed at gunpoint and constant cyber attacks .
They also report many drug related home invasions in the communities they operate in. More and more employees are armed for self protection at home and at work, which creates its own set of problems.
Auto theft in these stats is up and is a precursor to even more violent crime.
This is #fakenews
Hijacked trucks and robberies are not up at distribution centers or are facilities being robbed at some greater frequency.
More blatant lies from Scoop's resident liar
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 27, 2023, 11:00:29 AM
This is #fakenews
Hijacked trucks and robberies are not up at distribution centers or are facilities being robbed at some greater frequency.
More blatant lies from Scoop's resident liar
It's OK, Unc.
I just love reading about his fascinating anecdotes.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 27, 2023, 11:00:29 AM
This is #fakenews
Hijacked trucks and robberies are not up at distribution centers or are facilities being robbed at some greater frequency.
More blatant lies from Scoop's resident liar
Maybe he was meeting with countries in sub saharan Africa
Here's a heartwarming Christmas tale ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/12/27/florida-teen-shooting-christmas-presents/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most
A Christmas Eve argument between teen brothers over who was getting more gifts ended in tragedy in Florida: A 14-year-old boy shot and killed his sister, who had tried to defuse the fight — and then was shot by his older brother, the local sheriff said.
The brothers — a year apart in age — were Christmas shopping on Sunday with their mother and their sister, Abrielle Baldwin, 23, and her two sons when the argument broke out.
"They had this family spat over who was getting what and how much money was being spent on who," Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri told a news conference Tuesday.
The argument continued as the family made their way from the store to their grandmother's house in Largo, Fla. The brothers were each in possession of a gun, the sheriff said.
"They get to grandma's house [and the 14-year-old] takes out his gun and tells him he's going to shoot him in the head," the sheriff said.
The older brother said he didn't want to fight and asked his younger sibling to get out of the house, he added. Their uncle and sister, Baldwin, attempted to turn the situation around.
"You all need to leave that stuff alone ... It's Christmas," Baldwin told them while standing outside the property, according to Gualtieri.
The 14-year-old, after allegedly threatening to shoot his sister and her baby, is accused of shooting Baldwin in the chest while she was holding her son in a carrier at 1:45 p.m. She fell to the ground and was later pronounced dead at a hospital. Her baby was not injured.
Seconds after the shooting, the 15-year-old brother came outside holding his own handgun and shot his younger brother in the stomach, Gualtieri said. The 14-year-old was unarmed when his brother shot him, he said, and is in custody in stable condition at a hospital.
The 15-year-old then fled, tossing his weapon into a yard nearby, Gualtieri said. He was later taken into custody at a relative's house.
Gualtieri said that both teens were arrested and that only one of the two weapons was recovered at the scene, expressing concern that the missing gun would eventually be picked up and used in another crime. Audio of the incident was captured on a neighbor's camera, Gualtieri said.
"The problem is, we got way too many kids out there with way too many guns," Gualtieri said, adding that he hoped gun laws would change. "We need to get serious, and we need to get tough."
He said prosecutors are reviewing the case and will decide whether to charge the 14-year-old as an adult with first-degree murder.
The 15-year-old will be charged with attempted first-degree murder and tampering with physical evidence, he added. He is being held in a mental health facility after making statements about harming himself, Gualtieri said.
Before the shooting, the 14-year-old posed on Snapchat with the weapon "he used to kill his sister," Gualtieri said, adding that people who knew the brothers told police that the teens "carried guns all the time." Gualtieri said that obtaining a gun is "really easy" and that people are either buying stolen ones "cheap on the street" or taking them from unlocked vehicles. Earlier this year, he said, both brothers were arrested for "numerous car burglaries" in their area.
Which one of them was the "good guy with the gun"?
Quote from: MU82 on December 27, 2023, 10:54:52 AM
The Covenant Parents Aren't Going to Keep Quiet on Guns
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/26/us/politics/nashville-school-shooting-covenant-parents.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20231227&instance_id=111087&nl=the-morning®i_id=108420427&segment_id=153633&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
Mary Joyce told herself she would be kind, just as she always had been. Say enough, but not too much, she reminded herself.
Surely, the members of the Tennessee General Assembly before her would be moved by her testimony at a special session dedicated to public safety.
A moderate conservative herself, she would tell them about the day in March when she dropped off her 9-year-old daughter at the Covenant School, a private Christian school tucked into one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Nashville. She would remind them how an assailant wielding powerful rifles killed three of her daughter's third-grade classmates, the head of the school, a beloved custodian and a substitute teacher.
What she wanted now were modest measures that she believed could have prevented the violence and still be accepted by other Republicans.
Ms. Joyce and other Covenant parents felt they stood a better chance than anyone at cutting through the divisions on gun control. Among them were former Republican aides, gun owners and lifelong conservatives who could afford to spend days at the legislature.
Several parents understood that, for many, the right to bear arms, without any caveat, was an intrinsic piece of American identity. They knew this was particularly true in Tennessee, a state with an official rifle and a history of political retribution for conservatives who disregard the gun lobbyists and their hard-line base.
They had watched efforts led by other parents, galvanized by similar tragedy in Texas and other states, become snarled by politics.
But the Tennessee legislature proved more hostile than the Covenant parents imagined. And when Ms. Joyce heard just one more gun rights supporter dismiss the parents' concerns after days of restraint, her patience snapped.
The shooter at Covenant "hunted our children with a high-capacity rifle," Ms. Joyce cried out, her voice cracking, as she confronted the gun rights supporter in the Capitol rotunda. He walked away, but not before suggesting she listen more closely to his arguments.
"I have held my composure," she said, now openly angry despite the crowd that had gathered. "I have stayed calm. I have been silent and quiet and composed. And I am sick of it. Listen to me."
Glad these parents aren't giving up. But they stand no chance against right-wingnuts like these Tennessee politicians, who prefer ARs FOR EVERYBODY! to kids' lives.
The Pinellas County Sheriff says there is an epidemic of gun thefts.
https://www.wfla.com/news/pinellas-county/pinellas-county-sheriff-gives-update-on-deadly-christmas-eve-shooting-in-largo/
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 27, 2023, 07:10:01 PM
The Pinellas County Sheriff says there is an epidemic of gun thefts.
https://www.wfla.com/news/pinellas-county/pinellas-county-sheriff-gives-update-on-deadly-christmas-eve-shooting-in-largo/
What else did they say?
More non existent crime
https://www.wfla.com/news/pinellas-county/man-found-shot-after-home-burglary-in-north-redington-beach-deputies-say/
Burglar tried to break into another home after being shot by inhabitants in first home.
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 27, 2023, 07:15:39 PM
More non existent crime
https://www.wfla.com/news/pinellas-county/man-found-shot-after-home-burglary-in-north-redington-beach-deputies-say/
Burglar tried to break into another home after being shot by inhabitants in first home.
I bet over lunch with Jamie Dimon you could get him to lobby Pinellas country to have less crime.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on December 27, 2023, 07:30:25 PM
I bet over lunch with Jamie Dimon you could get him to lobby Pinellas country to have less crime.
They need to quit electing Republican governors or something, too. Sad to see Pudding Fingers unable to control the out of control crime in Pinellas County
" The 14-year-old has arrests dating to when he was 12 years old, including being a minor in possession of a gun, disorderly conduct, grand theft auto, auto burglaries and battery on a school employee, Gualtieri said."
Can't keep allowing criminals to be repeat criminals
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on December 27, 2023, 10:41:43 AM
Pfffftt, it is because of massive gun ownership that crime is down, obviously. The answer in this case, and every other case, is that no matter whether crime is up or crime is down, more guns are the solution.
If we need any laws passed around guns, it is to require all Americans to be armed.
By the FBI and CDC's own data between 1.5 and 2 million crimes are stopped or prevented because of the presence of a firearm. Facts matter
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on December 27, 2023, 09:13:31 PM
By the FBI and CDC's own data between 1.5 and 2 million crimes are stopped or prevented because of the presence of a firearm. Facts matter
Wow. Really precise data. Margin of error is 500,000. No wonder you guys are demanding defunding law enforcement.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on December 27, 2023, 09:13:31 PM
By the FBI and CDC's own data between 1.5 and 2 million crimes are stopped or prevented because of the presence of a firearm. Facts matter
It was 1.5 million. That number comes from a 1994 telephone survey where about 2,500 gun owners were surveyed. Out of those ~2,500 gun owners, 19 self reported that they had stopped or prevented a crime with their firearm. They were not asked to provide proof of this. Researchers took them at their word and extrapolated that those 19 self reports would equal about 1.5 million if generalized to the entire population of America.
This is of course an absurd conclusion but you are correct, the FBI and CDC did post those numbers. You are incorrect that it is their "own data", it was just a study that they cited.
I can show you a more recent study that estimates the number is around 119,000 a year. Is that also a fact that matters?
On the other side, I can show you a more recent study that estimates that the number is around 1.6 million a year.
Maybe the lesson here is that how a study is conducted is important context because people on both sides of this issue will try to frame the data in a certain way. I wouldn't call any of the numbers above "facts", just "results".
Clearly, one of the best ways to keep guns out of the hands of criminals is to have them everywhere, easy for anybody (even teenagers) to buy or steal.
Guns guns guns. Need more of 'em!!!!
If every man, woman and child in the United States had, say, 100 guns, the crime rate would be 0.00! That's the way low-crime countries do it, right?
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 27, 2023, 07:10:01 PM
The Pinellas County Sheriff says there is an epidemic of gun thefts.
https://www.wfla.com/news/pinellas-county/pinellas-county-sheriff-gives-update-on-deadly-christmas-eve-shooting-in-largo/
Cops say this crap all the time. They just want more funding.
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 27, 2023, 07:15:39 PM
More non existent crime
https://www.wfla.com/news/pinellas-county/man-found-shot-after-home-burglary-in-north-redington-beach-deputies-say/
Burglar tried to break into another home after being shot by inhabitants in first home.
Smart people know the difference between anecdotes and actual tangible data.
Stop being obsessed with the first, and focus on the second.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 28, 2023, 09:00:02 AM
Smart people know the difference between anecdotes and actual tangible data.
Stop being obsessed with the first, and focus on the second.
Herm knew J. Edgar Hoover personally and dined with him often
Homicides down 13% nationwide.
Quote from: tower912 on December 28, 2023, 10:05:09 AM
Homicides down 13% nationwide.
The line now is that we've defunded the police enough that we just aren't even reporting them anymore!
Quote from: tower912 on December 28, 2023, 10:05:09 AM
Homicides down 13% nationwide.
THE YEARS NOT OVER WITH!!! DON'T JINX IT. This is a trap week
Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 28, 2023, 10:16:01 AM
The line now is that we've defunded the police enough that we just aren't even reporting them anymore!
Just last week I came across two dead bodies and didn't bother to report it.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 28, 2023, 09:27:42 AM
Herm knew J. Edgar Hoover personally and dined with him often
In drag?
Quote from: Jockey on December 28, 2023, 11:07:35 AM
In drag?
No, I don't think Hoover did that for important guests
Quote from: Pakuni on December 28, 2023, 10:49:46 AM
Just last week I came across two dead bodies and didn't bother to report it.
Were Teddy and Vern with you?
Quote from: tower912 on December 28, 2023, 10:05:09 AM
Homicides down 13% nationwide.
...compared to last year. But, in 2022 homicides were up 25% vs. 2019. Comps matter.
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 28, 2023, 12:55:53 PM
...compared to last year. But, in 2022 homicides were up 25% vs. 2019. Comps matter.
Be nice if Republican controlled states would get their homicide rates down
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 28, 2023, 01:02:04 PM
Be nice if Republican controlled states would get their homicide rates down
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
Open borders present challenges
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 28, 2023, 01:31:27 PM
Open borders present challenges
Interesting conclusion for someone who usually is very data and detail oriented.
Looks like we found a blind spot.
Let me spin your brain
https://www.ojp.gov/library/publications/comparing-crime-rates-between-undocumented-immigrants-legal-immigrants-and
https://www.cato.org/blog/new-research-illegal-immigration-crime-0
QuoteIn 2018, the illegal immigrant criminal conviction rate was 782 per 100,000 illegal immigrants, 535 per 100,000 legal immigrants, and 1,422 per 100,000 native‐born Americans. The illegal immigrant criminal conviction rate was 45 percent below that of native‐born Americans in Texas.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 28, 2023, 01:38:08 PM
Interesting conclusion for someone who usually is very data and detail oriented.
Looks like we found a blind spot.
Let me spin your brain
https://www.ojp.gov/library/publications/comparing-crime-rates-between-undocumented-immigrants-legal-immigrants-and
https://www.cato.org/blog/new-research-illegal-immigration-crime-0
Conviction rates no matta
Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 28, 2023, 01:38:08 PM
Interesting conclusion for someone who usually is very data and detail oriented.
Looks like we found a blind spot.
Let me spin your brain
https://www.ojp.gov/library/publications/comparing-crime-rates-between-undocumented-immigrants-legal-immigrants-and
https://www.cato.org/blog/new-research-illegal-immigration-crime-0
december 2020?? understand we were in the process of securing our border so illegal immigration wasn't NEAR what it is today, but good thing weekend at bernies annointed heels up to be our immigration czar who is still looking for some "root cause" to the deluge at our secure border
8-10 million illegals later, i'm sure this study is being used to wipe some illegals arse who just finished raping a child whom he had a pound of fentanyl strapped to her body he used to get across the "secure" border with
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 28, 2023, 03:56:22 PM
december 2020?? understand we were in the process of securing our border so illegal immigration wasn't NEAR what it is today, but good thing weekend at bernies annointed heels up to be our immigration czar who is still looking for some "root cause" to the deluge at our secure border
8-10 million illegals later, i'm sure this study is being used to wipe some illegals arse who just finished raping a child whom he had a pound of fentanyl strapped to her body he used to get across the "secure" border with
Lol.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 28, 2023, 03:56:22 PM
december 2020?? understand we were in the process of securing our border so illegal immigration wasn't NEAR what it is today, but good thing weekend at bernies annointed heels up to be our immigration czar who is still looking for some "root cause" to the deluge at our secure border
8-10 million illegals later, i'm sure this study is being used to wipe some illegals arse who just finished raping a child whom he had a pound of fentanyl strapped to her body he used to get across the "secure" border with
You're right, the US is being flooded with illegal immigrants who are out there raping everyone. The data I provided is for a six year period spanning two administrations. If you have proof that illegal immigrants have started committing more crimes than US citizens I'd love to see it. So bring some facts instead of the gruel you've been fed by your favorite brain rot delivery system.
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 28, 2023, 01:31:27 PM
Open borders present challenges
The open borders of Alabama and Mississippi are certainly a problem
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 28, 2023, 03:56:22 PM
december 2020?? understand we were in the process of securing our border so illegal immigration wasn't NEAR what it is today, but good thing weekend at bernies annointed heels up to be our immigration czar who is still looking for some "root cause" to the deluge at our secure border
8-10 million illegals later, i'm sure this study is being used to wipe some illegals arse who just finished raping a child whom he had a pound of fentanyl strapped to her body he used to get across the "secure" border with
9 out of 10
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 28, 2023, 03:56:22 PM
december 2020?? understand we were in the process of securing our border so illegal immigration wasn't NEAR what it is today, but good thing weekend at bernies annointed heels up to be our immigration czar who is still looking for some "root cause" to the deluge at our secure border
8-10 million illegals later, i'm sure this study is being used to wipe some illegals arse who just finished raping a child whom he had a pound of fentanyl strapped to her body he used to get across the "secure" border with
That child in your fantasy probably deserved it in your opinion too right
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 28, 2023, 05:10:41 PM
I'll know it when I see it
Lol. This might be your best work ever.
I imagine it would have a "viewing the ark of the covenant ala Indiana Jones" like reaction.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 28, 2023, 03:56:22 PM
december 2020?? understand we were in the process of securing our border so illegal immigration wasn't NEAR what it is today, but good thing weekend at bernies annointed heels up to be our immigration czar who is still looking for some "root cause" to the deluge at our secure border
8-10 million illegals later, i'm sure this study is being used to wipe some illegals arse who just finished raping a child whom he had a pound of fentanyl strapped to her body he used to get across the "secure" border with
LOL. And Lenny thinks I lie about what is on Faux News.
Quote from: tower912 on December 28, 2023, 10:05:09 AM
Homicides down 13% nationwide.
Is it less shootings? Or maybe trauma surgeons have gotten better? Or better positioned hospitals?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 28, 2023, 03:56:22 PM
december 2020?? understand we were in the process of securing our border so illegal immigration wasn't NEAR what it is today, but good thing weekend at bernies annointed heels up to be our immigration czar who is still looking for some "root cause" to the deluge at our secure border
8-10 million illegals later, i'm sure this study is being used to wipe some illegals arse who just finished raping a child whom he had a pound of fentanyl strapped to her body he used to get across the "secure" border with
Can you point to any sources that show evidence of where fentanyl enters the US?
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 28, 2023, 05:49:28 PM
Can you point to any sources that show evidence of where fentanyl enters the US?
And why so much of it ends up in Halloween candy
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 28, 2023, 05:49:28 PM
Can you point to any sources that show evidence of where fentanyl enters the US?
Fentanyl is so last year
https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/nitazenes-colorado-opioid-fentanyl/ (https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/nitazenes-colorado-opioid-fentanyl/)
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 28, 2023, 03:56:22 PM
december 2020?? understand we were in the process of securing our border so illegal immigration wasn't NEAR what it is today, but good thing weekend at bernies annointed heels up to be our immigration czar who is still looking for some "root cause" to the deluge at our secure border
8-10 million illegals later, i'm sure this study is being used to wipe some illegals arse who just finished raping a child whom he had a pound of fentanyl strapped to her body he used to get across the "secure" border with
The scariest open border I have seen lately is the one between the Marquette Dental School and the graduation stage.
I'll haveta check if any Green Knights were ever admitted to the best dental school in Wisconsin. Would you know, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 28, 2023, 06:47:09 PM
I'll haveta check if any Green Knights were ever admitted to the best dental school in Wisconsin. Would you know, hey?
Nope. But my hope is they've increased their admission standards because they were apparently rock bottom at one point.
Do 2500 applications for 100 spots ring a bell, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 28, 2023, 07:18:42 PM
Do 2500 applications for 100 spots ring a bell, hey?
<shrug> So either the dental school turns you brainless, or you lost it once you entered the profession.
Yawn. Try 1200 for 15 spots.
Well, it should 'cuz dat's wear we're at, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 28, 2023, 07:20:34 PM
Well, it should 'cuz dat's wear we're at, hey?
I really don't care.
Doesn't sound that way to me. Probably shouldn't shoot a bb gun vs a machine gun, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 28, 2023, 07:23:18 PM
Doesn't sound that way to me. Probably shouldn't shoot a bb gun vs a machine gun, hey?
Yes, I have spent countless hours here debating the admission standards of the Dental School. ::) ::) ::)
Nope. I just think their alumni here on Scoop are a bunch of dipsh*ts.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 28, 2023, 07:18:42 PM
Do 2500 applications for 100 spots ring a bell, hey?
Tallest dwarves in the room, hey?
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 28, 2023, 07:29:17 PM
Yes, I have spent countless hours here debating the admission standards of the Dental School. ::) ::) ::)
Nope. I just think their alumni here on Scoop are a bunch of dipsh*ts.
Well, you're wrong again, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 28, 2023, 07:48:34 PM
Well, you're wrong again, aina?
I know one dental alum that wanted to trade Giannis
Fluff
You have spent countless hours debating 100's of nonsensical topics on scoop, why the obsession with the dentists on scoop?
Nm
Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 28, 2023, 04:06:50 PM
You're right, the US is being flooded with illegal immigrants who are out there raping everyone. The data I provided is for a six year period spanning two administrations. If you have proof that illegal immigrants have started committing more crimes than US citizens I'd love to see it. So bring some facts instead of the gruel you've been fed by your favorite brain rot delivery system.
please show me where i said "raping everyone"
i just said your data is like 8-10 million illegals ago. got a fresh new crowd of highly potentials we have NO IDEA who the hell they are and the spigot is wide open baby! they're coming up here like someone yelled FREE STUFF here and here's your ballot and drivers license, but this country sucks so i don't know why they are wasting their time
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 28, 2023, 05:49:28 PM
Can you point to any sources that show evidence of where fentanyl enters the US?
you're joking....
right?
just turn on faux news
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 28, 2023, 07:29:17 PM
Yes, I have spent countless hours here debating the admission standards of the Dental School. ::) ::) ::)
Nope. I just think their alumni here on Scoop are a bunch of dipsh*ts.
says the guy who's paycheck depended on nothing more than baby sitting a bunch of wet behind the ears post high school grads pushing them thru 4 years of his squat and probably on to other universities.
ya ever hold a job where others depend upon your performance to go home and feed their families pay the bills including tuition for schools where you draw your paycheck from???
the answer is no
so stfu and go ride the bus sally
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 28, 2023, 03:56:22 PM
december 2020?? understand we were in the process of securing our border so illegal immigration wasn't NEAR what it is today, but good thing weekend at bernies annointed heels up to be our immigration czar who is still looking for some "root cause" to the deluge at our secure border
8-10 million illegals later, i'm sure this study is being used to wipe some illegals arse who just finished raping a child whom he had a pound of fentanyl strapped to her body he used to get across the "secure" border with
You're lucky nobody pulls a keefe on you and doxes you. Your patients would be gone in the blink of an eye. The fact that anyone lets you anywhere close to their mouth is terrifying. The most embarrassing MU alum by a wide margin.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 28, 2023, 09:30:05 PM
says the guy who's paycheck depended on nothing more than baby sitting a bunch of wet behind the ears post high school grads pushing them thru 4 years of his squat and probably on to other universities.
ya ever hold a job where others depend upon your performance to go home and feed their families pay the bills including tuition for schools where you draw your paycheck from???
the answer is no
so stfu and go ride the bus sally
Yeah. Should have had my dad "sell" me a business instead.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 28, 2023, 09:12:16 PM
please show me where i said "raping everyone"
i just said your data is like 8-10 million illegals ago. got a fresh new crowd of highly potentials we have NO IDEA who the hell they are and the spigot is wide open baby! they're coming up here like someone yelled FREE STUFF here and here's your ballot and drivers license, but this country sucks so i don't know why they are wasting their time
Good. We need more people here. We should allow them to work immediately. And as long as they are legally requesting asylum, I am fine with that.
How 'bout tryin' to assimilate and pledgin' alligence the United States. Oh, and coming in legally too, hey?
All for upholding a sworn oath to protect the constitution.
Quote from: tower912 on December 29, 2023, 06:23:19 AM
All for upholding a sworn oath to protect the constitution.
Game over
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 29, 2023, 06:22:20 AM
How 'bout tryin' to assimilate and pledgin' alligence the United States. Oh, and coming in legally too, hey?
Coming across the border and requesting asylum is perfectly legal. No better way to absorb into the country than to allow them to work immediately.
Quote from: withoutbias on December 28, 2023, 11:27:03 PM
You're lucky nobody pulls a keefe on you and doxes you. Your patients would be gone in the blink of an eye. The fact that anyone lets you anywhere close to their mouth is terrifying. The most embarrassing MU alum by a wide margin.
that's why i don't allow patients like you to even step inside my office and/or promptly dismiss them to someone who has the desperation to see and put up with your type-ain't worth 1 minute of my time or paper work. you must be a product of sully's admin
grow a pair and live by what ever your name is supposed to mean
btw, your threat is being monitored wb-hope ya have good council
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 29, 2023, 06:46:26 AM
that's why i don't allow patients like you to even step inside my office and/or promptly dismiss them to someone who has the desperation to see and put up with your type-ain't worth 1 minute of my time or paper work. you must be a product of sully's admin
grow a pair and live by what ever your name is supposed to mean
btw, your threat is being monitored wb-hope ya have good council
9 out of 10
Quote from: withoutbias on December 28, 2023, 11:27:03 PM
You're lucky nobody pulls a keefe on you and doxes you. Your patients would be gone in the blink of an eye. The fact that anyone lets you anywhere close to their mouth is terrifying. The most embarrassing MU alum by a wide margin.
Eh, East Troy isn't exactly a hot bed for political and social equality.
bias
I think you have crossed the line yet again. Not exactly sure what rocket has to do with doxxing. To even think what you posted is bad enough, shocked anyone would post such a thing.
Quote from: Goose on December 29, 2023, 07:21:50 AM
bias
I think you have crossed the line yet again. Not exactly sure what rocket has to do with doxxing. To even think what you posted is bad enough, shocked anyone would post such a thing.
Huh.
Quote from: 🏀 on December 29, 2023, 07:01:16 AM
Eh, East Troy isn't exactly a hot bed for political and social equality.
this is the 2nd time you've trolled and doxed me and i'm the embarrassing MU grad?? people like you who do this are a coward and beyond despicable, but par for the course on how the "mostly peaceful" operate...
since you've blocked me from even sending you a pm-hope you feel good for yourself getting in the last word you coward...happy new year
Sultan
Pretty simple, what bias said was out of line. His comment on rocket losing clients and being the most embarrassing alum is not needed to be said on a message board. I think your response of "huh" shows your true colors.
Sultan said 'huh' because he was doxxed by members of this board a few years ago. Those are his true colors.
After Rise in Murders During the Pandemic, a Sharp Decline in 2023
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/29/us/crime-data-fbi-homicides.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20231229&instance_id=111233&nl=the-morning®i_id=108420427&segment_id=153783&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
Detroit is on track to record the fewest murders since the 1960s. In Philadelphia, where there were more murders in 2021 than in any year on record, the number of homicides this year has fallen more than 20 percent from last year. And in Los Angeles, the number of shooting victims this year is down more than 200 from two years ago.
The decrease in gun violence in 2023 has been a welcome trend for communities around the country, though even as the number of homicides and the number of shootings have fallen nationwide, they remain higher than on the eve of the pandemic.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 29, 2023, 08:13:40 AM
this is the 2nd time you've trolled and doxed me and i'm the embarrassing MU grad?? people like you who do this are a coward and beyond despicable, but par for the course on how the "mostly peaceful" operate...
since you've blocked me from even sending you a pm-hope you feel good for yourself getting in the last word you coward...happy new year
Didn't know ignoring a user blocks everything, that's honestly a bummer.
You've mentioned East Troy 10 times on MUScoop. Four of those times you've identified yourself as physically being in East Troy or having an office in East Troy.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 28, 2023, 09:13:24 PM
you're joking....
right?
just turn on faux news
You stated Fentanyl was crossing the mexico-US border with immigrants/asylum-seekers.
I've heard it also crosses the Canada border and also comes in via ships in US ports - primarily west coast.
So I was curious if you had any sources that would demonstrate where the majority of it was found to be entering
Quote from: Goose on December 29, 2023, 07:21:50 AM
bias
I think you have crossed the line yet again. Not exactly sure what rocket has to do with doxxing. To even think what you posted is bad enough, shocked anyone would post such a thing.
But do you denounce Hama...I mean Keefe?
And others.
They will be included in my five point plan to address Doxxing on scoop
tower
My post to bias was not simply about doxing. I think everyone on here has agreed that doxing is 100000% wrong and should not be tolerated. In addition, I believe Sultan has stated several times that he spoke with people on the doxing and he good with the conversation had on the topic. Not exactly sure why someone else stating "lucky nobody pulls a keefe" was needed.
Quote from: Goose on December 29, 2023, 11:16:00 AM
tower
My post to bias was not simply about doxing. I think everyone on here has agreed that doxing is 100000% wrong and should not be tolerated. In addition, I believe Sultan has stated several times that he spoke with people on the doxing and he good with the conversation had on the topic. Not exactly sure why someone else stating "lucky nobody pulls a keefe" was needed.
Nope. I am beyond pissed that it happened and haven't received any sort of apology for it. The fact that you get all up in arms about bias' reply to rocket, using information that rocket himself has disclosed, yet were kinda like "well what can you do?" when it happened to wades and me shows you are at best inconsistent on the matter.
So my "Huh" response was actually the polite one of the two I was considering.
Sultan
I would bet a lot of money that you stated that you reached out to people and received a favorable response and you appreciated the response. If I am mistaken, my bad.
Hardly up in arms and simply wish there was less of the BS on some of these threads, on both sides. I try to stay out of the mix more times than not because I find in tiring.
IMO, regardless if it was bias or someone else, I thought the post went over the line and too personal. I am sticking with that because I sincerely believe that to be true.
Quote from: Goose on December 29, 2023, 11:16:00 AM
tower
My post to bias was not simply about doxing. I think everyone on here has agreed that doxing is 100000% wrong and should not be tolerated. In addition, I believe Sultan has stated several times that he spoke with people on the doxing and he good with the conversation had on the topic. Not exactly sure why someone else stating "lucky nobody pulls a keefe" was needed.
Quote from: Goose on June 30, 2021, 06:14:01 PM
Myself, and several others, text with Keefe every day and I have zero idea if he sent the email or not. IMO, he is a grown man and does not need intervention from me any more than the fxxk heads that get threads locked down threads on regular basis.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 29, 2023, 06:30:12 AM
Coming across the border and requesting asylum is perfectly legal. No better way to absorb into the country than to allow them to work immediately.
This would solve a lot of problems.
Quote from: Goose on December 29, 2023, 07:21:50 AM
bias
I think you have crossed the line yet again. Not exactly sure what rocket has to do with doxxing. To even think what you posted is bad enough, shocked anyone would post such a thing.
I think it is about consistency regardless of who is involved.
4ever even used the name of the owner and CEO of the company I worked for. There were a few here that called him on it (I think Tower may have been one). But I know you weren't among them. (I don't mean that a a criticism of you as I have no idea if you even saw the post).
If a message board makes you angry enough to doxx someone, that's a you problem.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 29, 2023, 02:59:54 PM
If a message board makes you angry enough to doxx someone, that's a you problem.
Bingo!
Doxxing is bullying. I have a visceral dislike of bullying. I will never condone it.
PLM
What does the quote you dug up from me have to do with anything? First, it is one quote of many that day, I believe and I have stated countless times that what happened to wades was flat out wrong.
I believe the day it happened I was being told to get to the bottom of things and I had no idea how that was my responsibility. I spoke to Keefe that day and he told me it was not him and I took him for his word. One of the mods had stated several times that they are convinced it was him and I never disputed the mods.
For the record, I have reached out to wades several times since that happened and had conversations on that topic. If he sent the email he should be banned and I would not disagree with any way wades handled it.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 29, 2023, 01:17:43 PM
Nope. I am beyond pissed that it happened and haven't received any sort of apology for it. The fact that you get all up in arms about bias' reply to rocket, using information that rocket himself has disclosed, yet were kinda like "well what can you do?" when it happened to wades and me shows you are at best inconsistent on the matter.
So my "Huh" response was actually the polite one of the two I was considering.
They're not the apologizing type. Not even in private.
Ask me how I know.
Hey Hards
Seriously? I believe I have reached out to you several times, maybe not to apologize but clear the air. I think there are a ton of posts from
a lot of people that justify an apology.
I will say Pakuni one time stated he might have crossed the line with me and it was appreciated. IMO, outing someone and serious personal attacks are off limits.
To start the new year off right, I apologize if I ever made a crazy personal attack on anyone on scoop.
Quote from: Goose on December 29, 2023, 04:31:43 PM
Hey Hards
Seriously? I believe I have reached out to you several times, maybe not to apologize but clear the air. I think there are a ton of posts from
a lot of people that justify an apology.
I will say Pakuni one time stated he might have crossed the line with me and it was appreciated. IMO, outing someone and serious personal attacks are off limits.
To start the new year off right, I apologize if I ever made a crazy personal attack on anyone on scoop.
You weren't a doxxer, my friend. We disagree on many things, but you're not who I am referring to here. I wish you the best.
Also, to clarify, I don't need or expect an apology anymore. The time for such things is long since past, and I've forgiven those involved without saying as much aloud.
Quote from: Goose on December 29, 2023, 04:31:43 PM
Hey Hards
Seriously? I believe I have reached out to you several times, maybe not to apologize but clear the air. I think there are a ton of posts from
a lot of people that justify an apology.
I will say Pakuni one time stated he might have crossed the line with me and it was appreciated. IMO, outing someone and serious personal attacks are off limits.
To start the new year off right, I apologize if I ever made a crazy personal attack on anyone on scoop.
Doxxing is bad regardless of friend of stranger. And should be abruptly called out on who is doing it. Glad you seem to have reflected and grown on the matter.
Wish you all the best in the new year and hope for more kindness and empathy from everyone here. Too much hatred of our fellow man these days.
Quote from: 🏀 on December 29, 2023, 09:13:47 AM
Didn't know ignoring a user blocks everything, that's honestly a bummer.
You've mentioned East Troy 10 times on MUScoop. Four of those times you've identified yourself as physically being in East Troy or having an office in East Troy.
regardless basketball for brains-you know what you are doing and why and it sure ain't for anything good...because you guys don't like my politics, you do what the "mostly peaceful' types do and try to hurt people in other ways, i.e. their businesses. instead of trying to burn mine down physically, you are trying to hurt it via doxing. your post was way out of line. there was absolutely no redeeming quality to it, but it sure made you feel good
if you were to be successful in hurting my business, understand you are hurting employees and patients. if i brought up east troy, it was because it was pertinent to or it was in context with the discussion, i don't really remember. i know it wasn't to put my business in harms way. you however are doing just that and it's beyond WRONG. it is abhorrent and people like you should not be allowed to post here if that is your goal to hurt fellow posters financially
one last thing-the people who really know me, work for me, have done business with me, been patients of mine for over 35 years, some crossing the generation from my father to me including my kindergarten teacher, piano teacher, high school teachers, coaches, grandchildren of classmates and friends, etc.etc. they all know who i am.
so stand proud basketball brains and dox away...
Quote from: MU82 on December 29, 2023, 08:59:24 AM
After Rise in Murders During the Pandemic, a Sharp Decline in 2023
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/29/us/crime-data-fbi-homicides.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20231229&instance_id=111233&nl=the-morning®i_id=108420427&segment_id=153783&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
Detroit is on track to record the fewest murders since the 1960s. In Philadelphia, where there were more murders in 2021 than in any year on record, the number of homicides this year has fallen more than 20 percent from last year. And in Los Angeles, the number of shooting victims this year is down more than 200 from two years ago.
The decrease in gun violence in 2023 has been a welcome trend for communities around the country, though even as the number of homicides and the number of shootings have fallen nationwide, they remain higher than on the eve of the pandemic.
Detroit Population fell from 1,670,000 in 1960 to 646,000 today. So hopefully the number of murders have dropped....🤓
I for one have a deeply held belief that I shouldn't be held to account for anything I say ever, let alone on a college basketball forum
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 29, 2023, 06:07:33 PM
regardless basketball for brains-you know what you are doing and why and it sure ain't for anything good...because you guys don't like my politics, you do what the "mostly peaceful' types do and try to hurt people in other ways, i.e. their businesses. instead of trying to burn mine down physically, you are trying to hurt it via doxing. your post was way out of line. there was absolutely no redeeming quality to it, but it sure made you feel good
if you were to be successful in hurting my business, understand you are hurting employees and patients. if i brought up east troy, it was because it was pertinent to or it was in context with the discussion, i don't really remember. i know it wasn't to put my business in harms way. you however are doing just that and it's beyond WRONG. it is abhorrent and people like you should not be allowed to post here if that is your goal to hurt fellow posters financially
one last thing-the people who really know me, work for me, have done business with me, been patients of mine for over 35 years, some crossing the generation from my father to me including my kindergarten teacher, piano teacher, high school teachers, coaches, grandchildren of classmates and friends, etc.etc. they all know who i am.
so stand proud basketball brains and dox away...
Glad you agree Keefe should never post here again
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 29, 2023, 06:15:24 PM
Detroit Population fell from 1,670,000 in 1960 to 646,000 today. So hopefully the number of murders have dropped....🤓
I often had dinner with Joe Louis in Detroit. Occasionally, George Romney would discuss politics with us
Saying one is lucky no one has retaliated for the idiotic things you say isn't the same as doxxing.
Doxxing is bad. Pointing out you haven't suffered consequences for hateful speech isn't that.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 29, 2023, 06:33:18 PM
I often had dinner with Joe Louis in Detroit. Occasionally, George Romney would discuss politics with us
How 'bout da tyme ya took Aretha Franklin ta prom, hey?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 29, 2023, 06:07:33 PM
regardless basketball for brains-you know what you are doing and why and it sure ain't for anything good...because you guys don't like my politics, you do what the "mostly peaceful' types do and try to hurt people in other ways, i.e. their businesses. instead of trying to burn mine down physically, you are trying to hurt it via doxing. your post was way out of line. there was absolutely no redeeming quality to it, but it sure made you feel good
if you were to be successful in hurting my business, understand you are hurting employees and patients. if i brought up east troy, it was because it was pertinent to or it was in context with the discussion, i don't really remember. i know it wasn't to put my business in harms way. you however are doing just that and it's beyond WRONG. it is abhorrent and people like you should not be allowed to post here if that is your goal to hurt fellow posters financially
one last thing-the people who really know me, work for me, have done business with me, been patients of mine for over 35 years, some crossing the generation from my father to me including my kindergarten teacher, piano teacher, high school teachers, coaches, grandchildren of classmates and friends, etc.etc. they all know who i am.
so stand proud basketball brains and dox away...
Huh.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 29, 2023, 06:57:37 PM
How 'bout da tyme ya took Aretha Franklin ta prom, hey?
Herm and I doubled. He took Diana Ross
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 29, 2023, 06:59:33 PM
Herm and I doubled. He took Diana Ross
He took a meeting with Barry Gordy first to make sure it was OK.
Quote from: Jockey on December 29, 2023, 07:58:01 PM
He took a meeting with Barry Gordy first to make sure it was OK.
Actually, he chaperoned
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 29, 2023, 06:07:33 PM
regardless basketball for brains-you know what you are doing and why and it sure ain't for anything good...because you guys don't like my politics, you do what the "mostly peaceful' types do and try to hurt people in other ways, i.e. their businesses. instead of trying to burn mine down physically, you are trying to hurt it via doxing. your post was way out of line. there was absolutely no redeeming quality to it, but it sure made you feel good
if you were to be successful in hurting my business, understand you are hurting employees and patients. if i brought up east troy, it was because it was pertinent to or it was in context with the discussion, i don't really remember. i know it wasn't to put my business in harms way. you however are doing just that and it's beyond WRONG. it is abhorrent and people like you should not be allowed to post here if that is your goal to hurt fellow posters financially
one last thing-the people who really know me, work for me, have done business with me, been patients of mine for over 35 years, some crossing the generation from my father to me including my kindergarten teacher, piano teacher, high school teachers, coaches, grandchildren of classmates and friends, etc.etc. they all know who i am.
so stand proud basketball brains and dox away...
You don't know what doxxing means.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 29, 2023, 06:59:33 PM
Herm and I doubled. He took Diana Ross
He got the pretty one. Interesting.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 29, 2023, 06:07:33 PM
regardless basketball for brains-you know what you are doing and why and it sure ain't for anything good...because you guys don't like my politics, you do what the "mostly peaceful' types do and try to hurt people in other ways, i.e. their businesses. instead of trying to burn mine down physically, you are trying to hurt it via doxing. your post was way out of line. there was absolutely no redeeming quality to it, but it sure made you feel good
if you were to be successful in hurting my business, understand you are hurting employees and patients. if i brought up east troy, it was because it was pertinent to or it was in context with the discussion, i don't really remember. i know it wasn't to put my business in harms way. you however are doing just that and it's beyond WRONG. it is abhorrent and people like you should not be allowed to post here if that is your goal to hurt fellow posters financially
Rocket, you have never, to my knowledge, been doxxed on this site. Doxxing involves either posting personal information on this site that you have never shared on this site, or it is sharing what you've posted on this site with those who know you in the real world. You have repeatedly shared that you are located in the East Troy area. That makes it fair game for people to mention on this site. I've shared on this site that I work for Texas A&M on this site and even the general area of the university I work in. If another poster brings up who my employer is, and that's happened more than a few times, they aren't doxxing me. They're just reposting what I've already shared.
You have not been doxxed Rocket and I genuinely hope you never are.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 29, 2023, 06:07:33 PM
one last thing-the people who really know me, work for me, have done business with me, been patients of mine for over 35 years, some crossing the generation from my father to me including my kindergarten teacher, piano teacher, high school teachers, coaches, grandchildren of classmates and friends, etc.etc. they all know who i am.
You seem very certain of this, so I will take you at your word. But I would encourage you to reflect on why you think this is true. Is it because the people who really know you, work for you, have done business with you, been patients of yours for over 35 years, know about the side of you that comes out on this site? Would they laugh and smile and give you atta boys for all of the things that you've posted over the years? I'll admit, I'm skeptical. If I learned that one of my daughter's medical providers made a post on a college basketball forum about how my daughter is schtooping her boyfriend, that medical provider would be getting an enraged phone call and would lose my business and the business of anyone I knew. Maybe your patients are more forgiving.
Or do you think this is true because you don't consider the persona you have on this site to be who you truly are? Which begs the age old question, are we are truest selves when everyone is watching or when no one is watching? Personally, I think we're both.
If that's where the bar is set, there are a ton of people on this board that should run for cover. Be careful of what you ask for.
Not pointing this at you TAMU.
My take, this is a place to exchange commentary, moderated when needed. And that's all it is.
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 30, 2023, 04:41:58 AM
If that's where the bar is set, there are a ton of people on this board that should run for cover. Be careful of what you ask for.
Not pointing this at you TAMU.
My take, this is a place to exchange commentary, moderated when needed. And that's all it is.
could not have said it better chili-
i may not have been "doxed" as the definition so goes, but what basketball for brains did was coming oh so close. if one wants to set the bar as tamu has stated, then why don't we all just use our real names, addresses and open it all up-fair game? there is a reason we do not of course.
if there was a pattern to ones behavior is one thing. is everything written here on the "up & up" glass houses? it's another thing to use this board to try to personally damage someone-that is the true character that comes out
I agree, Chili.
As for TAMU post, my dentist does have a completely different internet persona on the internet and I recommend that dentist to family and friends. There is not scoop persona that would keep from reaching out to anyone on scoop.
Obviously I like some posters more than others, but I have had great PM interactions with some posters I do not like their persona, but I find them interesting or intelligent on certain topics.
If you would make any personal decisions over someone's online persona good for you, but you better reverse dox everyone in your life and find if they have an online persona that offends you.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 30, 2023, 05:51:59 AM
could not have said it better chili-
i may not have been "doxed" as the definition so goes, but what basketball for brains did was coming oh so close. if one wants to set the bar as tamu has stated, then why don't we all just use our real names, addresses and open it all up-fair game? there is a reason we do not of course.
if there was a pattern to ones behavior is one thing. is everything written here on the "up & up" glass houses? it's another thing to use this board to try to personally damage someone-that is the true character that comes out
Huh.
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 30, 2023, 04:41:58 AM
If that's where the bar is set, there are a ton of people on this board that should run for cover. Be careful of what you ask for.
Not pointing this at you TAMU.
My take, this is a place to exchange commentary, moderated when needed. And that's all it is.
Considering you have used and/or implied personal information about me that I have never disclosed on this site, that's quite the statement. Since others have done similarly, I am assuming that such information is freely shared amongst a group.
Which is really odd behavior IMO.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 30, 2023, 06:54:38 AM
Considering you have used and/or implied personal information about me that I have never disclosed on this site, that's quite the statement. Since others have done similarly, I am assuming that such information is freely shared amongst a group.
Which is really odd behavior IMO.
Yep, this is only about you. A legend in your own mind.
Chili
I would actually have Sultan on the top of my list of scoopers I have zero interest in knowing anything about. Seriously, zero interest in knowing one thing about his real life. I have seen enough of his work on scoop and zero additional info is needed.
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 30, 2023, 06:59:42 AM
Yep, this is only about you. A legend in your own mind.
I never said it was about me. You (and others) are getting up in arms about something you have done in the past.
Quote from: Goose on December 30, 2023, 07:03:33 AM
Chili
I would actually have Sultan on the top of my list of scoopers I have zero interest in knowing anything about. Seriously, zero interest in knowing one thing about his real life. I have seen enough of his work on scoop and zero additional info is needed.
Good.
But again, really odd discussion point.
Sultan,
You had just posted people posting about your real life and sharing info within a group. You brought this back to you and things said about you. I was simply making one thing very clear, there is zero about you that interests me to learn more about you beyond what I know via scoop. Have no fears about me digging into your life and "sharing" info on you.
Because he has been doxxed by members of this board. In a discussion about doxxing by members of this board. Odd discussion point to continue to ignore that elephant in the room.
Quote from: tower912 on December 30, 2023, 07:16:31 AM
Because he has been doxxed by members of this board. In a discussion about doxxing by members of this board. Odd discussion point to continue to ignore that elephant in the room.
Right. It's a strange failure in logic.
The point is that some of the people getting outraged over people's comments to rocket were the same ones who both failed to say anything similar when keefe actually directly contacted Scoopers' workplaces. And they also continue to participate in doxxing by directly stating personal information about Scoopers without their permission. I was simply using myself as the example.
Serious question to everyone on scoop, have you ever found or shared personal info about scoopers to friends or fellow scoopers? If so, is that crossing the line?
I fully understand doxxing is at a much different level, but invading privacy is invading privacy. Is what happened to wades really doxxing or just crazy bad behavior.
I can say with 100% honesty that I have never looked up one scooper on the internet. That said, I have definitely looked/snooped on people on the internet. While I think that behavior is a waste of time, I do not think it is new behavior. The internet just made it easier. Hell, I remember looking for an old girlfriend's telephone number in the phonebook when she moved back to town and this was 40 years ago.
You have to admit, there's a difference in someone calling you by your first name...and veiled claims and threats about one's professionalism. Wades and Rocket both have legit complaints....whether or not you like their on-line personas.
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 30, 2023, 07:37:17 AM
You have to admit, there's a difference in someone calling you by your first name...and veiled claims and threats about one's professionalism. Wades and Rocket both have legit complaints....whether or not you like their on-line personas.
Hey whatever helps you sleep at night...
Fluff
I agree with your doxxing comments, only a fxxkin moron would not agree doxxing is horrible. I am not outraged in the Rocket situation, I just think bias and 🏀 crossed a line, not the doxxing line but mutual respect line.
I would hope that there is no need to debate doxxing being a horrible thing. My only involvement in this thread was because I thought two posters made over the line personal attacks.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 29, 2023, 10:41:15 PM
He got the pretty one. Interesting.
Who are you to judge beauty?
nm
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 30, 2023, 07:43:40 AM
To quote you, "huh"?
If you can find a time I have stated personal information about someone that hasn't already been disclosed by that person, go right ahead.
Otherwise you are just being a hypocrite.
I have zero interest in finding out more about scoopers than they wish to be shared. And I don't believe in bullying.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 30, 2023, 05:51:59 AM
could not have said it better chili-
i may not have been "doxed" as the definition so goes, but what basketball for brains did was coming oh so close. if one wants to set the bar as tamu has stated, then why don't we all just use our real names, addresses and open it all up-fair game? there is a reason we do not of course.
if there was a pattern to ones behavior is one thing. is everything written here on the "up & up" glass houses? it's another thing to use this board to try to personally damage someone-that is the true character that comes out
So, keefe's true character was revealed. Glad you agree
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 30, 2023, 07:50:59 AM
If you can find a time I have stated personal information about someone that hasn't already been disclosed by that person, go right ahead.
Otherwise you are just being a hypocrite.
No, you are being pedantic...again.
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 30, 2023, 07:52:33 AM
No, you are being pedantic...again.
Whatever excuse you can use in your mind to justify your behavior....
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 30, 2023, 07:55:53 AM
Whatever excuse you can use in your mind to justify your behavior....
At least you are consistent.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 30, 2023, 05:51:59 AM
could not have said it better chili-
i may not have been "doxed" as the definition so goes, but what basketball for brains did was coming oh so close. if one wants to set the bar as tamu has stated, then why don't we all just use our real names, addresses and open it all up-fair game? there is a reason we do not of course.
if there was a pattern to ones behavior is one thing. is everything written here on the "up & up" glass houses? it's another thing to use this board to try to personally damage someone-that is the true character that comes out
Rocket, please explain how anyone on this site has damaged you on the real world.
No one has. Youre not reacting because you've been damaged, you're reacting because you know you could be. You know you've written stuff on here that if shared with people who "truly know" you would cause them to recoil.
I have used my real name on this site. The reason i feel comfortable doing that is because if you go through my posts you could probably find some hair brained basketball takes but everything I would either stand behind or admit I was wrong. I would reflect on why you can't say the same.
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 29, 2023, 06:15:24 PM
Detroit Population fell from 1,670,000 in 1960 to 646,000 today. So hopefully the number of murders have dropped....🤓
Your very strong business brain doesn't understand rates and percentages vs. absolute numbers?
Quote from: Goose on December 30, 2023, 06:20:59 AM
I agree, Chili.
As for TAMU post, my dentist does have a completely different internet persona on the internet and I recommend that dentist to family and friends. There is not scoop persona that would keep from reaching out to anyone on scoop.
Obviously I like some posters more than others, but I have had great PM interactions with some posters I do not like their persona, but I find them interesting or intelligent on certain topics.
If you would make any personal decisions over someone's online persona good for you, but you better reverse dox everyone in your life and find if they have an online persona that offends you.
And see, i think most of us don't have a persona on scoop. Most of us are the same offline as online. I can understand the fun in being someone else online, but when someone uses an anonymous profile to say hateful and bigoted things, spread misinformation, or to identify their patients by name and comment on whether our not they're banging their boyfriend, I question what kind of person in real life would find that fun.
As for your suggestion to reverse dox everyone i know, no i don't need to do that. I operate with the information i have. My baseline is to think the best of people. But i trust when people tell me otherwise about themselves.
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 30, 2023, 04:41:58 AM
If that's where the bar is set, there are a ton of people on this board that should run for cover. Be careful of what you ask for.
Not pointing this at you TAMU.
My take, this is a place to exchange commentary, moderated when needed. And that's all it is.
Why should we run for cover? How is reposting things on this site already shared on this site damaging in any way?
Our are you talking about the standard that we shouldn't say things online that we wouldn't want people in our lives to know about? My question is, why wouldn't you hold yourself to that standard? Most of us do that already.
I agree, this is a place to exchange commentary. Part of that commentary can be calling out the commentary of others.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 30, 2023, 10:02:44 AM
Rocket, please explain how anyone on this site has damaged you on the real world.
No one has. Youre not reacting because you've been damaged, you're reacting because you know you could be. You know you've written stuff on here that if shared with people who "truly know" you would cause them to recoil.
I have used my real name on this site. The reason i feel comfortable doing that is because if you go through my posts you could probably find some hair brained basketball takes but everything else I would either stand behind or admit I was wrong. I would reflect on why you can't say the same.
If you can't see Rocket and his class are always the victim, I'm not sure what I can tell you. It's very sad when you live in a world where your class suffers daily like rocket's does. It's mostly because of ice cream from what I gather
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 30, 2023, 06:59:42 AM
Yep, this is only about you. A legend in your own mind.
Wow.
"Sure, I did that, but you're not the only one I did it to"?
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 30, 2023, 10:19:52 AM
Why should we run for cover? How is reposting things on this site already shared on this site damaging in any way?
Our are you talking about the standard that we shouldn't say things online that we wouldn't want people in our lives to know about? My question is, why wouldn't you hold yourself to that standard? Most of us do that already.
TAMU, as I said in my post, I was not referring to you.
I saw a tweet recently that said, roughly paraphrasing, that a common flaw in thinking is that only dumb people have dumb ideas. We're all familiar with this idea that people elevate the thoughts of those they respect/admire/adore (see: Elon, insert whatever politician they support, etc..) but also tend to extrapolate the foolishness or idiocy of an idea/viewpoint onto the one who expresses it. This is increasingly heightened online.
But the reality is some of the dumbest or reckless decisions or ideas in business or political or global history have been made or espoused by otherwise intelligent people.
This is not to excuse any of the muck flinging or nonsense that happens here, but just something to think of when sniping at others here.
Furthermore, otherwise good people do terrible things sometimes. I won't speak in generalities here cause he's no longer present and has been named many times, but the Keefe example is prime. I know that myself and many others had great experiences with Keefe, likely largely involving nothing that made him divisive here. As Ive mentioned, he personally went out of his way numerous times to assist me and help me before I ever met him personally. But what he did was indefensible, pathetic, and extremely disappointing. I don't fault Goose for his mindset on it. Its hard to reconcile the offline person he knew with the disconnect that can often happen in online activities leading to something shameful.
Anyways, for some this won't change anything, but I just wanted to chime in on perspective that we all need sometimes. I personally PM people, that I often disagree with, more often than I used to, whenever I see some sort of commonality cause it helps ground and "re-humanize" posters instead of just a username and avatar.
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 30, 2023, 10:23:25 AM
TAMU, as I said in my post, I was not referring to you.
Yes you were. And that's okay. You commented about the bar I was setting in my post. You can disagree with me, I'm not fragile. What concerns do you have about that standard? And if you truly weren't talking about my bar, what were you referring to?
Wag
You are spot on.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 29, 2023, 06:07:33 PM
regardless basketball for brains-you know what you are doing and why and it sure ain't for anything good...because you guys don't like my politics, you do what the "mostly peaceful' types do and try to hurt people in other ways, i.e. their businesses. instead of trying to burn mine down physically, you are trying to hurt it via doxing. your post was way out of line. there was absolutely no redeeming quality to it, but it sure made you feel good
if you were to be successful in hurting my business, understand you are hurting employees and patients. if i brought up east troy, it was because it was pertinent to or it was in context with the discussion, i don't really remember. i know it wasn't to put my business in harms way. you however are doing just that and it's beyond WRONG. it is abhorrent and people like you should not be allowed to post here if that is your goal to hurt fellow posters financially
one last thing-the people who really know me, work for me, have done business with me, been patients of mine for over 35 years, some crossing the generation from my father to me including my kindergarten teacher, piano teacher, high school teachers, coaches, grandchildren of classmates and friends, etc.etc. they all know who i am.
so stand proud basketball brains and dox away...
Siri, what is the definition of irony?
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 30, 2023, 06:59:42 AM
Yep, this is only about you. A legend in your own mind.
I'll be frank here (not Bryan, thanks) but you should proooooooooobably sit this one out, bucko.
Quote from: JWags85 on December 30, 2023, 10:37:28 AM
Furthermore, otherwise good people do terrible things sometimes. I won't speak in generalities here cause he's no longer present and has been named many times, but the Keefe example is prime. I know that myself and many others had great experiences with Keefe, likely largely involving nothing that made him divisive here. As Ive mentioned, he personally went out of his way numerous times to assist me and help me before I ever met him personally. But what he did was indefensible, pathetic, and extremely disappointing. I don't fault Goose for his mindset on it. Its hard to reconcile the offline person he knew with the disconnect that can often happen in online activities leading to something shameful.
I think this is why there is so much vitriol towards Keefe. I also had many friendly discussions with him on a variety of subjects. And then suddenly, and I still don't know why, he turned on me. My guess is that it involved my hatred for Trump, but I don't know for sure.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on December 30, 2023, 10:09:26 AM
Your very strong business brain doesn't understand rates and percentages vs. absolute numbers?
The post referred to the lowest number of murders in Detroit since the 1960s. That is an absolute concept.
Whole lot of old guys worried about veiled and unveiled racist, misogynistic, homophobic and quite frankly classist things they've posted on a message board may have real world implications.
Guys, we've all posted things that haven't aged well in the 15(?) years this place has been here. Maybe let's just be better going forward.
If you won't put your dental practice behind what you post, don't post it. Seems like a good mental check when posting.
Quote from: 🏀 on December 30, 2023, 07:01:53 PM
Whole lot of old guys worried about veiled and unveiled racist, misogynistic, homophobic and quite frankly classist things they've posted on a message board may have a real world implications.
Guys, we've all posted things that haven't aged well in the 15(?) years this place has been here. Maybe let's just be better going forward.
If you won't put your dental practice behind what you post, don't post it. Seems like a good mental check when posting.
I think a good rule is to only post things that you're willing to have read aloud to you in front of your family.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on December 30, 2023, 10:09:26 AM
Your very strong business brain doesn't understand rates and percentages vs. absolute numbers?
Herman is correct in this instance. The numbers being cited are absolute numbers. The current homicide rate in Detroit is overly double the homicide rate for 1966.
However, even taking rates into account, this is record low going back decades, though not all the way to 1966.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 30, 2023, 08:35:27 PM
I think a good rule is to only post things that you're willing to have read aloud to you in front of your family.
When I show my wife things I have posted here, the responses usually fall into these categories.
Eye roll
Funny. (Deadpan wife voice slightly more Interested than eye roll)
You pulled your punch/you were nicer than that guy deserved.
Quote from: tower912 on January 02, 2024, 07:03:12 PM
When I show my wife things I have posted here, the responses usually fall into these categories.
Eye roll
Funny. (Deadpan wife voice slightly more Interested than eye roll)
You pulled your punch/you were nicer than that guy deserved.
I don't share my or anyone else's posts on Scoop with my wife. She's well aware (after 50 years) that I'm hilarious and much kinder to people than they deserve, so what would be the point? Every once in a while she'll ask me "What's happening on the Marquette message board?" but it's polite conversation, not any real desire for details. If she ever actually read a couple of pages here (especially in the Superbar or the in game threads) she'd be shocked at how awful this place can be and wonder what I'm doing here. But when I reminded her that (like you) I bring laughter to the joyless and kindness to the undeserving she would understand and support me in this often thankless pursuit.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 02, 2024, 09:49:54 PM
I don't share my or anyone else's posts on Scoop with my wife. She's well aware (after 50 years) that I'm hilarious and much kinder to people than they deserve, so what would be the point? Every once in a while she'll ask me "What's happening on the Marquette message board?" but it's polite conversation, not any real desire for details. If she ever actually read a couple of pages here (especially in the Superbar or the in game threads) she'd be shocked at how awful this place can be and wonder what I'm doing here. But when I reminded her that (like you) I bring laughter to the joyless and kindness to the undeserving she would understand and support me in this often thankless pursuit.
I think this is the first Lenny's post I've ever found funny.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 02, 2024, 10:01:48 PM
I think this is the first Lenny's post I've ever found funny.
Nothing more rewarding to an artist than a good review from a heretofore harsh critic. Thanks!
Lenny
My wife thinks I am a complete whack job with the time I spend on scoop and she probably is right. My scoop time is far from a secret in our family but I'm not calling her into the room to share "interesting " comments or threads from scoop with her. One of my sons call me Goose from time to time and that usually triggers a brief conversation about scoop and my wife asking son if I am pissing people off or not.
By the way, you forgot to mention your role as valued teacher on scoop. Some day, many of your nemesis scoopers will tell their children that "Lenny was right and what a blessing he is on scoop". Until then, keep calling it as you see it. If it sinks into one scooper's head, you made the world a better place.
Quote from: tower912 on January 02, 2024, 07:03:12 PM
When I show my wife things I have posted here, the responses usually fall into these categories.
Eye roll
Funny. (Deadpan wife voice slightly more Interested than eye roll)
You pulled your punch/you were nicer than that guy deserved.
Depends on context, aina?
Quote from: Goose on January 03, 2024, 01:38:49 AM
Lenny
My wife thinks I am a complete whack job with the time I spend on scoop and she probably is right. My scoop time is far from a secret in our family but I'm not calling her into the room to share "interesting " comments or threads from scoop with her. One of my sons call me Goose from time to time and that usually triggers a brief conversation about scoop and my wife asking son if I am pissing people off or not.
By the way, you forgot to mention your role as valued teacher on scoop. Some day, many of your nemesis scoopers will tell their children that "Lenny was right and what a blessing he is on scoop". Until then, keep calling it as you see it. If it sinks into one scooper's head, you made the world a better place.
Goose,
I like Lenny and his commentary here on Scoop even though we have vast differences. He adds a lot to the board.
But I don't think I will ever say "Lenny was right and what a blessing he is on scoop" to my kids. :)
Quote from: Jockey on January 03, 2024, 11:31:42 AM
Goose,
I like Lenny and his commentary here on Scoop even though we have vast differences. He adds a lot to the board.
But I don't think I will ever say "Lenny was right and what a blessing he is on scoop" to my kids. :)
Jockey
We do have vast differences politically but I always like to read your takes on other things - movies, music, sports and life in general. Back in the old, pre internet days, that was plenty to forge a friendship. In fact, many of my oldest and closest friends today are and have pretty much always been diametrically opposed to me politically. So imho politics are irrelevant to friendships, just conflicting opinions on how to best insure the common good. I'm not one to look backwards and mourn the loss of "the good old days" but that's one good aspect of life in the USA that's mostly been lost.
Wags et al. It is my belief that most of us reside in the middle on most things. Disagreements on issues doesn't mean anybody is a bad person. We all come at things from different angles and you can't know truth without being exposed to differing opinions.
Quote from: tower912 on December 30, 2023, 07:51:17 AM
I have zero interest in finding out more about scoopers than they wish to be shared. And I don't believe in bullying.
Trolling is a form of bullying.
......................
As for the thread, I admittedly skip over many threads here. Clicked on this one and it was quote the read.
Seems simple enough for everyone. Only say things here that you'd say standing two feet next to the person, because you may just meet one day.
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From the NYT's The Morning newsletter ...
In the chaotic early months of the Covid pandemic, when the U.S. was also going through the aftermath of George Floyd's murder, violent crime rose across the country. Murders in 2020 increased at the fastest rate since national statistics began in 1960. Other crimes, like shootings and car thefts, also increased.
The surge in violence left some experts worried that the U.S. might be entering another era of high crime, similar to that of the 1960s through the '90s.
But the data over the past year has offered a much more optimistic picture. The number of murders in U.S. cities fell by more than 12 percent — which would be the biggest national decline on record. The spike that started in 2020 now looks more like a blip, and the murder rate is lower than it was during the 1970s, '80s and '90s. The recent data also suggests that the violent-crime rate in 2023 was near its lowest level in more than 50 years, as Jeff Asher, a crime analyst, wrote for his newsletter.
To understand why murders and other crimes have declined, it's useful to look at the likely causes of the increase: the pandemic and the fallout from Floyd's killing by the police.
Covid, of course, upended American life in 2020 and 2021, including in ways that affected crime: Police officers stopped some forms of in-person contact, and more illness contributed to staffing shortages at police departments. Schools, which help keep teens out of trouble, shut down. Some social services and other anti-violence programs also had to scale back.
Covid does not explain everything. Many other countries did not report increases in their murder rates during the pandemic. Perhaps something unique to the U.S., such as its abundance of guns, made the country more vulnerable to the disruptions of Covid.
Regardless, the reality is this: During Covid, murders increased. As life has returned to normal, they have decreased.
The second explanation involves Floyd's death. High-profile police killings typically strain relations between law enforcement and the public. This leads some officers to pull back from activities that can stop crime. More people become skeptical of working with the police to solve and prevent crimes. And as they lose trust in the police and the justice system, more Americans resort to their own means, including violence, to settle conflicts.
A similar phenomenon played out in the mid-2010s. Widely publicized police killings of Black men in Ferguson, Mo.; Baltimore; Chicago; and elsewhere strained relations between the police and their communities, and murders increased.
Back then, murders declined after a couple of years, as tensions eased and officials tried to repair police-community relations and improve policing. The same seems to have happened in the last couple of years.
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Still elevated Vs pre pandemic
Fact:
Pistol whippin's are way up, hey?
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The Marquette University Police Department is investigating the incident below. If you have more information, please contact MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Armed Robbery
Incident location: 1500 block of West Highland Avenue
Approximate time: 2:20 a.m.
Victims: One male, not affiliated with Marquette
Physical injuries: Victim suffered a minor injury, declined medical attention
A non-MU victim was approached by a known suspect and four other individuals. The known suspect produced a weapon and struck the victim. He then took the individual's car keys before fleeing. The group is believed to have fled into a nearby multi-unit residence. MUPD responded to the call, Milwaukee Police Department is investigating.
I wish my neighborhood was this safe.
well, Houston? not so much
https://www.foxnews.com/media/houston-police-union-warns-city-safe-murder-suspects-left-walking-streets
Texas. Whaddayagonnado?
Quote from: tower912 on April 21, 2024, 05:10:28 PM
Texas. Whaddayagonnado?
Apparently not moving Marquette's campus there.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 21, 2024, 05:09:26 PM
well, Houston? not so much
https://www.foxnews.com/media/houston-police-union-warns-city-safe-murder-suspects-left-walking-streets
Police union leaders are famous for their rational demeanors.
Oh, look ... serious crime is down in Houston. Shocked.
https://www.axios.com/local/houston/2024/04/16/murder-violent-crime-numbers
https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/criminal-justice/2024/01/18/474765/murders-in-houston-harris-county-were-down-in-2023-compared-to-previous-years/
Will the dentists be patrolling vigilante style when the convention is in town?
Quote from: tower912 on April 21, 2024, 06:00:47 PM
Will the dentists be patrolling vigilante style when the convention is in town?
Strip clubs and hookers will make bank that week
Quote from: tower912 on April 21, 2024, 06:00:47 PM
Will the dentists be patrolling vigilante style when the convention is in town?
That would require action beyond watching the television and monitoring social media.
They don't care that much anyway.
Quote from: tower912 on April 21, 2024, 06:00:47 PM
Will the dentists be patrolling vigilante style when the convention is in town?
Tom Cotton agrees with this analysis.
Hey, walk 'round downtown MKE at 2:20 am. You'll chit your Haggars. That also goes for our distinguished fire fightin' dude who, by his own admission, lives in a hellhole Grand Rapids neighborhood, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 21, 2024, 06:42:05 PM
Hey, walk 'round downtown MKE at 2:20 am. You'll chit your Haggars. That also goes for our distinguished fire fightin' dude who, by his own admission, lives in a hellhole Grand Rapids neighborhood, aina?
Matt Gaetz isn't in town yet
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 21, 2024, 06:42:05 PM
Hey, walk 'round downtown MKE at 2:20 am. You'll chit your Haggars. That also goes for our distinguished fire fightin' dude who, by his own admission, lives in a hellhole Grand Rapids neighborhood, aina?
lol. Like I'm up at 2:20 am.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 21, 2024, 07:00:31 PM
lol. Like I'm up at 2:20 am.
Pretty sure old folks have trouble sleepin', aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 21, 2024, 07:51:13 PM
Pretty sure old folks have trouble sleepin', aina?
Yeah. If I see that time it means I'm up early. And not up late.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 21, 2024, 06:42:05 PM
Hey, walk 'round downtown MKE at 2:20 am. You'll chit your Haggars. That also goes for our distinguished fire fightin' dude who, by his own admission, lives in a hellhole Grand Rapids neighborhood, aina?
Did it for a few years at Marquette. Dodged bullets every night, but lived to tell the tale.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 21, 2024, 07:59:03 PM
Did it for a few years at Marquette. Dodged bullets every night, but lived to tell the tale.
Are you a Kia boy???
Thanks for sharing the news report, Doc.
Just tryin' to do my part to keep our Scoop brothers and sisters safe, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 22, 2024, 03:18:26 AM
Just tryin' to do my part to keep our Scoop brothers and sisters safe, aina?
It was robbery that took place off campus and no one involved was a Marquette person.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 22, 2024, 09:29:59 AM
It was robbery that took place off campus and no one involved was a Marquette person.
so the tree that falls in the woods doesn't make any noise then, eyn'a? the robbery that took place involved an "unwashed"; someone who probably deserved it then. nothing to see here...yawn??
See title of thread
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 23, 2024, 05:15:37 AM
so the tree that falls in the woods doesn't make any noise then, eyn'a? the robbery that took place involved an "unwashed"; someone who probably deserved it then. nothing to see here...yawn??
5.5 out of 10
There was an armed robbery near the Wake Forest campus last night. That works for this thread, right?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 23, 2024, 05:15:37 AM
so the tree that falls in the woods doesn't make any noise then, eyn'a? the robbery that took place involved an "unwashed"; someone who probably deserved it then. nothing to see here...yawn??
Oh my God. A crime occurred near an urban college campus?
The Marquette Crime would have been a great name instead of the Golden Eagles.
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 23, 2024, 08:20:14 AM
The Marquette Crime would have been a great name instead of the Golden Eagles.
Imagine the violence!
We could do the "Crime Wave" during intros.
I attended a college fair with my HS junior this morning. The Seton Hall rep, after throwing some serious Jersey attitude at my MU polo, included in her stock spiel that SHU is a gated campus. The MU rep did not mention campus crime.
Quote from: tower912 on April 23, 2024, 09:28:28 AM
I attended a college fair with my HS junior this morning. The Seton Hall rep, after throwing some serious Jersey attitude at my MU polo, included in her stock spiel that SHU is a gated campus. The MU rep did not mention campus crime.
should've reminded them it's called pork roll.
Quote from: tower912 on April 23, 2024, 09:28:28 AM
I attended a college fair with my HS junior this morning. The Seton Hall rep, after throwing some serious Jersey attitude at my MU polo, included in her stock spiel that SHU is a gated campus. The MU rep did not mention campus crime.
The rep didn't mention of moving campus to Mequon?
No, but the 17 year old picked up on UConn being the only Big East school that started out as an ag school and the only one not in an urban center. Which led to a discussion about why Big East schools are where they are in their urban environment.
Quote from: tower912 on April 23, 2024, 02:31:27 PM
No, but the 17 year old picked up on UConn being the only Big East school that started out as an ag school and the only one not in an urban center. Which led to a discussion about why Big East schools are where they are in their urban environment.
Storrs, CT; if you love only one cell phone network to work with only one bar of service, we're the campus for you
Quote from: reinko on April 23, 2024, 08:15:18 PM
Storrs, CT; if you love only one cell phone network to work with only one bar of service, we're the campus for you
I've seen comments that too bad the UConn Stamford campus is not the main campus. It'd be more popular only a 45 minute train ride to NYC.
All's well here at the U!
https://www.fox9.com/news/security-camera-captures-minneapolis-assault
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 24, 2024, 03:19:05 PM
All's well here at the U!
https://www.fox9.com/news/security-camera-captures-minneapolis-assault
Move the campus to Mequon
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2024, 03:42:56 PM
Move the campus to Mequon
There is plenty of room in Mequon to move
every university and college there!
Think about how easy it would be to schedule athletic events.
Quote from: MU82 on April 24, 2024, 04:09:46 PM
There is plenty of room in Mequon to move every college there!
I'm in Mequon quite often and think about the open space being a great spot for a prison. Would love to see one put there to help clean up the streets
Oh, doe ewe have lotsa Uber pick ups or drop off out dis wey, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 24, 2024, 05:56:13 PM
Oh, doe ewe have lotsa Uber pick ups or drop off out dis wey, hey?
There's a lot of spots to put a prison around town. Would be an incredible opportunity for the community to help protect the citizens of the Marquette campus they're so concerned about, hey?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2024, 06:00:31 PM
There's a lot of spots to put a prison around town. Would be an incredible opportunity for the community to help protect the citizens of the Marquette campus they're so concerned about, hey?
I have just one word...DON'T
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 24, 2024, 06:07:48 PM
I have just one word...DON'T
Don't what? Build a prison? Ok.
East Troy needs the economic boost.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2024, 06:08:28 PM
Don't what? Build a prison? Ok.
Put that shovel down, young man
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 24, 2024, 06:12:56 PM
Put that shovel down, young man
I guess infrastructure week is over
Quote from: tower912 on April 24, 2024, 06:12:41 PM
East Troy needs the economic boost.
Yeah, now that Jimmy Buffet is dead, no one is going to Alpine Valley anymore.
Quote from: tower912 on April 24, 2024, 06:12:41 PM
East Troy needs the economic boost.
It's cool, I'll be there in August for Phish
We need more prisons! Just don't build them anywhere near where we live; build them near where the "others" live.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 24, 2024, 06:22:02 PM
Yeah, now that Jimmy Buffet is dead, no one is going to Alpine Valley anymore.
Alpine has a busy schedule this summer. Busiest in years
Quote from: tower912 on April 24, 2024, 06:12:41 PM
East Troy needs the economic boost.
what the hell do you know about east troy? it's largely become a bedroom, commuter community as the 30-45 minute drive to Milwaukee ain't so bad so long as ya get out before the crime ramps up
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 24, 2024, 06:51:55 PM
what the hell do you know about east troy? it's largely become a bedroom, commuter community as the 30-45 minute drive to Milwaukee ain't so bad so long as ya get out before the crime ramps up
Like when Scott Drew visits?
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 24, 2024, 06:22:02 PM
Yeah, now that Jimmy Buffet is dead, no one is going to Alpine Valley anymore.
Dave Mathews? you heard of him?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2024, 06:51:46 PM
Alpine has a busy schedule this summer. Busiest in years
not really jerky boy
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 24, 2024, 06:53:55 PM
with welcome arms
Wouldn't want sleaze like that in my community
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 24, 2024, 06:51:55 PM
what the hell do you know about east troy? it's largely become a bedroom, commuter community as the 30-45 minute drive to Milwaukee ain't so bad so long as ya get out before the crime ramps up
So, perfect.
Quote from: tower912 on April 24, 2024, 07:06:56 PM
So, perfect.
East Troy is commonly known as the Meth Capital of SE Wisconsin
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 24, 2024, 06:58:56 PM
Wouldn't want sleaze like that in my community
only room for one sleaze in your community I see
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 24, 2024, 07:09:44 PM
only room for one sleaze in your community I see
No, we don't have any Drew family members around
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 24, 2024, 06:51:55 PM
what the hell do you know about east troy? it's largely become a bedroom, commuter community as the 30-45 minute drive to Milwaukee ain't so bad so long as ya get out before the crime ramps up
What time do you need to get out of East Troy before the crime ramps up?
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 24, 2024, 07:29:48 PM
What time do you need to get out of East Troy before the crime ramps up?
Bestiality is a crime without set hours.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 24, 2024, 07:29:48 PM
What time do you need to get out of East Troy before the crime ramps up?
Does the crime happen while the dental offices are open for business or after they get off work?
Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on April 24, 2024, 08:52:26 PM
Does the crime happen while the dental offices are open for business or after they get off work?
Yes
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 24, 2024, 07:33:05 PM
Bestiality is a crime without set hours.
TMI alert TMI alert TMI alert
could you please keep your extra curricular hobbies to yourself Sally
The Milwaukee County District Attorney's Office is reviewing an incident earlier this month in which Marquette University police say three women, including one who carried a gun, began pulling flags from a pro-Palestinian display.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/education/2024/04/24/milwaukee-da-reviews-case-of-woman-marquette-says-damaged-gaza-display/73418376007/?utm_source=jsonline-dailybriefing-strada&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dailybriefing-greeting&utm_term=Content%20List%20-%20Stacking%20-%20optimized&utm_content=pmjs-milwaukee-nletter65
Marquette police referred a misdemeanor charge of theft while armed to the district attorney's office to review, but it was not clear as of Tuesday afternoon whether prosecutors would charge Kathryn M. Hinderks-Schlotman in the case. Marquette spokeswoman Monica MacKay said a status hearing was scheduled for May.
Campus police say the three women — Hinderks-Schlotman, Alice J. Hinderks-Schlotman, and Marnie B. Atias — trespassed when they arrived on campus April 7 and headed to a university-sanctioned display of thousands of flags staked in the ground. The flags were intended as a memorial for those killed in Gaza during the Israel-Hamas war.
The women are not Marquette students, faculty or staff.
The women pulled up some flags and began stuffing them in trash bags, according to police reports obtained by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Police arrived at the display about two minutes after the women arrived, the reports said.
I'm sure doc somehow missed that one
The Marquette University Police Department advises the Marquette community to notify MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800 if you see the individual pictured below. The subject is a registered sex offender who was recently released from custody; he is prohibited from being within the Marquette University campus area, as well as in or around public libraries, due to repeated arrests for lewd and lascivious behavior.
Name: Denard A. Rowell
Age: 36
Height: 6' 0"
Weight: 228 lbs.
If you observe any suspicious behavior or fear for your safety at any time, contact MUPD at (414) 288-1911 or through the mobile blue light feature on the Eagle Eye app.
Hey Tower, ya got this in yo hood too, hey? No biggie, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 26, 2024, 04:30:03 PM
The Marquette University Police Department advises the Marquette community to notify MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800 if you see the individual pictured below. The subject is a registered sex offender who was recently released from custody; he is prohibited from being within the Marquette University campus area, as well as in or around public libraries, due to repeated arrests for lewd and lascivious behavior.
Name: Denard A. Rowell
Age: 36
Height: 6' 0"
Weight: 228 lbs.
If you observe any suspicious behavior or fear for your safety at any time, contact MUPD at (414) 288-1911 or through the mobile blue light feature on the Eagle Eye app.
Hey Tower, ya got this in yo hood too, hey? No biggie, aina?
No, he lives by this guy
https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2023/01/west-michigan-orthodontist-accused-of-soliciting-minors-for-nude-photos-having-child-porn.html?outputType=amp
Sheeeeeitttt. More scared of maga dentists. I have a halfway house, flophouse hotel a mile from my home full of them. Folks fresh out of prison, folks one step above homeless. You need to get out of Mequon more. Downtown Detroit was rocking last night, aina? P
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 26, 2024, 04:30:03 PM
The Marquette University Police Department advises the Marquette community to notify MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800 if you see the individual pictured below. The subject is a registered sex offender who was recently released from custody; he is prohibited from being within the Marquette University campus area, as well as in or around public libraries, due to repeated arrests for lewd and lascivious behavior.
Name: Denard A. Rowell
Age: 36
Height: 6' 0"
Weight: 228 lbs.
Dang ... sounds almost as scary as a Catholic priest!
If his name was Matt Gaetz, 4ever would throw him a party.
Actually, I'm in Motown 3-4x/year. Birmingham is great. My favorite restaurant, Prime and Proper, is in downtown Detroit. Been there many times.
The Quon is wonderful...why leave? Ax Reako, his Amazon route brings him out here frequently, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 26, 2024, 05:28:03 PM
Actually, I'm in Motown 3-4x/year. Birmingham is great. My favorite restaurant, Prime and Proper, is in downtown Detroit. Been there many times.
The Quon is wonderful...why leave? Ax Reako, his Amazon route brings him out here frequently, aina?
Surprised you order from Amazon. Keep feeding Bezos, aina
I'm dating Mackenzie Scott
Kudos.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 26, 2024, 05:28:03 PM
Actually, I'm in Motown 3-4x/year. Birmingham is great. My favorite restaurant, Prime and Proper, is in downtown Detroit. Been there many times.
The Quon is wonderful...why leave? Ax Reako, his Amazon route brings him out here frequently, aina?
If you're ever in Birmingham during a MU game, hit me up. There's a large crew of us that gets together for games
Safety Update: Report if Seen — April 29, 2024
The Marquette University Police Department advises the Marquette community to notify MUPD immediately at (414) 288-1911 if you see the individual pictured below. The subject entered the 707 Building around 10:45 a.m. this morning and set fire to a garbage can in the building lobby. The man was last seen walking east on Wisconsin Avenue. Milwaukee Fire Department was on scene and extinguished the fire. Nobody was injured, and the building was not damaged. This appears to be an isolated incident.
If you observe any suspicious behavior or fear for your safety at any time, contact MUPD at (414) 288-1911 or through the Mobile BlueLight feature on the EagleEye app. Ensure location services and push notifications are enabled for full functionality of EagleEye.
Tower's hood is startin' to feel like Beverly Hills, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 29, 2024, 12:52:19 PM
Safety Update: Report if Seen — April 29, 2024
The Marquette University Police Department advises the Marquette community to notify MUPD immediately at (414) 288-1911 if you see the individual pictured below. The subject entered the 707 Building around 10:45 a.m. this morning and set fire to a garbage can in the building lobby. The man was last seen walking east on Wisconsin Avenue. Milwaukee Fire Department was on scene and extinguished the fire. Nobody was injured, and the building was not damaged. This appears to be an isolated incident.
If you observe any suspicious behavior or fear for your safety at any time, contact MUPD at (414) 288-1911 or through the Mobile BlueLight feature on the EagleEye app. Ensure location services and push notifications are enabled for full functionality of EagleEye.
Tower's hood is startin' to feel like Beverly Hills, hey?
No photo? I thought your mission here was to help.
Here ya go kin, hey?
Now it is getting fun.
Got da schmuck. Eat chit, sorry not a dentist, hey?
Marquette University Police Department officers have taken the suspect involved in the 707 Building garbage can fire into custody. The suspect is not affiliated with Marquette University. The suspect was apprehended thanks to a Marquette student who called MUPD after seeing the university's "Report if Seen" email.
Marquette University is grateful for the responsiveness and professionalism displayed by our MUPD officers.
Glad the system works.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 29, 2024, 02:03:18 PM
Got da schmuck. Eat chit, sorry not a dentist, hey?
Dentists all look alike to me.
Man, if I was arrested every time I set a fire indoors in college...
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 29, 2024, 02:03:18 PM
Got da schmuck. Eat chit, sorry not a dentist, hey?
Marquette University Police Department officers have taken the suspect involved in the 707 Building garbage can fire into custody. The suspect is not affiliated with Marquette University. The suspect was apprehended thanks to a Marquette student who called MUPD after seeing the university's "Report if Seen" email.
Marquette University is grateful for the responsiveness and professionalism displayed by our MUPD officers.
Where does it say he's not a dentist?
There was an active shooter - a teenage boy with a gun - at a middle school in Mount Horeb yesterday.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2024/05/01/police-kill-mount-horeb-student-to-prevent-school-shooting/73533915007/
Thank goodness, the police got the kid before he could get into the school and do his carnage.
People in the community were "shocked it can happen here" in "such a wonderful quaint little town."
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2024/05/01/active-shooter-threat-neutralized-outside-of-mount-horeb-school/73528027007/?utm_source=jsonline-dailybriefing-strada&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dailybriefing-greeting&utm_term=newsletter-greeting&utm_content=pmjs-milwaukee-nletter65
Obviously it can happen there. Think of all the predominantly middle-class and upper-middle-class communities, whether quaint and little or fairly large, that have been shot up - usually by a member of their own communities - over the years.
It's the combination of Gunz 4 Everyone! (not just "a well-regulated militia") plus the lip service about mental health ("It's not a gun problem, it's a mental health problem, but I dare you to try to get us to do anything about mental health.").
So yeah, it can (and did) happen in Mount Horeb ... and Highland Park ... and Uvalde ... and Columbine ... and etc and etc and etc and etc and etc and etc and etc.
And of course crime can happen in the war-torn Marquette campus area, too.
Bullchit happened in Charlotte too, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 02, 2024, 09:00:38 AM
Bullchit happened in Charlotte too, aina?
Absolutely. Too many easily acquired guns held by well-regulated militias here, too.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 02, 2024, 09:00:38 AM
Bullchit happened in Charlotte too, aina?
4 white law enforcement shot by a black guy who was wanted on an illegal weapons charge.
gee, the anti gun people should have had him in prison for a long time for that charge alone-what was he doing free to begin with
He had served his sentence.
Quote from: tower912 on May 03, 2024, 06:26:10 AM
He had served his sentence.
felon with a gun? you'd think you anti gun types would be throwing away the key. I know the felony is no biggie
He illegally obtained a gun. He used it to kill people. I mourn the officers but not him. Shouldn't be so easy for a felon to obtain a weapon.
I mourn the barkeeper and her husband in Elkhorn killed by a felon who managed to obtain a gun illegally.
Felon obtained a gun illegally. Why is it so easy?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 03, 2024, 06:24:39 AM
4 white law enforcement shot by a black guy who was wanted on an illegal weapons charge.
gee, the anti gun people should have had him in prison for a long time for that charge alone-what was he doing free to begin with
Making military-style rifles widely available to the public is a terrible idea, don't you agree?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 03, 2024, 06:24:39 AM
4 white law enforcement shot by a black guy who was wanted on an illegal weapons charge.
gee, the anti gun people should have had him in prison for a long time for that charge alone-what was he doing free to begin with
gee, the pro gun people would never have put him in prison in the first place. sEconD AmEnDmeNt!
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 03, 2024, 06:33:37 AM
felon with a gun? you'd think you anti gun types would be throwing away the key. I know the felony is no biggie
The point is that felons should not be able to easily obtain guns. But you favor Gunz 4 Everybody!
It doesn't matter to you if that means law enforcement people get hurt or killed ... but then again, your cheerleading for the 1/6/21 "patriots" already established that blue lives don't really matter to you unless you think they help score political points.
Here's one of your fine patriots, the kind of upstanding citizen your "law-and-order" cult leader says he'd be setting free on Day 1:
https://apnews.com/article/jack-wade-whitton-capitol-riot-sentence-32ca23ad4b637214ae21f637de17227c?
WASHINGTON (AP) — A Georgia business owner who bragged that he "fed" a police officer to a mob of rioters storming the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was sentenced on Thursday to nearly five years in prison for his repeated attacks on law enforcement during the insurrection.
Jack Wade Whitton struck an officer with a metal crutch and dragged him — head first and face down — into the crowd on the Capitol's Lower West Terrace. Whitton later boasted in a text message that he "fed him to the people."
Roughly 20 minutes later, Whitton tried to pull a second officer into the crowd, prosecutors say. He also kicked at, threatened and threw a construction pylon at officers trying to hold off the mob of then-President Donald Trump's supporters.
"You're gonna die tonight!" he shouted at police after striking an officer's riot shield.
You actually touch on what is going to be an interesting legal and philosophical
argument going forward. Can felons own guns? Because a couple thousand gun lovers have felony convictions now. In the recently mentioned cases, Charlotte and Elkhorn, felons who had served their sentences returned to society and illegally obtained guns with tragic consequences.
Should the convicted felons of January 6 be allowed to own weapons? Before you answer, should the recent Israel/Palestine protesters who will be convicted of felonies related to destruction of property and assault be forever banned from firearm ownership?
I am in the camp of a blanket ban.
And recividism is, as always, far too common.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 03, 2024, 06:24:39 AM
4 white law enforcement shot by a black guy who was wanted on an illegal weapons charge.
gee, the anti gun people should have had him in prison for a long time for that charge alone-what was he doing free to begin with
You bring up their race...for what reason, exactly?
Quote from: wadesworld on May 03, 2024, 10:53:12 AM
You bring up their race...for what reason, exactly?
Oh I think we know
Quote from: tower912 on May 03, 2024, 09:25:00 AM
You actually touch on what is going to be an interesting legal and philosophical
argument going forward. Can felons own guns? Because a couple thousand gun lovers have felony convictions now. In the recently mentioned cases, Charlotte and Elkhorn, felons who had served their sentences returned to society and illegally obtained guns with tragic consequences.
Should the convicted felons of January 6 be allowed to own weapons? Before you answer, should the recent Israel/Palestine protesters who will be convicted of felonies related to destruction of property and assault be forever banned from firearm ownership?
I am in the camp of a blanket ban.
Just FYI, it's highly unlikely campus protestors are going to be charged, much less convicted, with felonies. So far, the ones actually charged are facing misdemeanor trespassing.
As for felons with guns, some lower court nuts have ruled such prohibitions are unconstitutional, but it seems unlikely the Supreme Court will agree. Even Alito has spoken out in favor of such bans.
However, based on some recent comments, Alito and Thomas seem OK with domestic abusers having guns, so long as they haven't yet been convicted of a felony.
Cause, you know, women's health no matta.
If they assaulted officers, physically, beating them with objects, spraying them with pepper spray and the ilk, give them felonies.
Quote from: tower912 on May 03, 2024, 11:45:22 AM
If they assaulted officers, physically, beating them with objects, spraying them with pepper spray and the ilk, give them felonies.
Just a Buncha tourists
Quote from: tower912 on May 03, 2024, 09:25:00 AM
You actually touch on what is going to be an interesting legal and philosophical
argument going forward. Can felons own guns? Because a couple thousand gun lovers have felony convictions now. In the recently mentioned cases, Charlotte and Elkhorn, felons who had served their sentences returned to society and illegally obtained guns with tragic consequences.
Should the convicted felons of January 6 be allowed to own weapons? Before you answer, should the recent Israel/Palestine protesters who will be convicted of felonies related to destruction of property and assault be forever banned from firearm ownership?
I am in the camp of a blanket ban.
the Elkhorn dude was freed early by big tony evers. anyone responsible for freeing anyone from a sentence early or paroling or letting them bail out should be held responsible for that person going out and killing someone.
if a doctor causes harm on a patient, they are held responsible and rightly so. so should judges and anyone else associated with releasing a felon.
Quote from: wadesworld on May 03, 2024, 10:53:12 AM
You bring up their race...for what reason, exactly?
was I wrong? if it were reversed, 82 and jock breath would have started separate threads
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 03, 2024, 06:53:07 PM
the Elkhorn dude was freed early by big tony evers
Yeah, that's not how parole works.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 03, 2024, 06:55:52 PM
was I wrong? if it were reversed, 82 and jock breath would have started separate threads
You didn't answer the question. What does race have to do with that situation at all? If all lives matter, who cares what color skin the police officers had? Live what you preach my man.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 03, 2024, 08:41:11 PM
Yeah, that's not how parole works.
whatever dude, but one of your boys paroled him in 2020
"He was paroled by Gov. Tony Evers in 2020 and was on community supervision at the time of the shooting."
hey, at least he appeared to behave himself for a few years anyway
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 03, 2024, 09:13:19 PM
whatever dude, but one of your boys paroled him in 2020
"He was paroled by Gov. Tony Evers in 2020 and was on community supervision at the time of the shooting."
hey, at least he appeared to behave himself for a few years anyway
Wearing ignorance like a badge of honor.
Those who attend roQQet's victimhood workshop learn that white folks haven't been able to catch a break in America for hundreds of years now. Black people even got to benefit from all the skills they learned as slaves!
Quote from: wadesworld on May 03, 2024, 09:11:57 PM
You didn't answer the question. What does race have to do with that situation at all? If all lives matter, who cares what color skin the police officers had? Live what you preach my man.
for you folk hiding behind the sanctimonious BLM charade, yes, ALL lives matter, even the white law enforcement ones.
nice try working your weak attempt to to justify your racism though
this case just happened to involve the opposite of what you and your racists need to see in order to fleece more money out of others and then...buy mansions and stuff for those in charge. the masses of those who supported them and "peacefully rioted" got jack chit-classic
oh, btw, for those of you from Rio Linda, the 4 murdered law enforcement were white whom you wanted eradicated.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 04, 2024, 05:29:10 AM
for you folk hiding behind the sanctimonious BLM charade, yes, ALL lives matter, even the white law enforcement ones.
nice try working your weak attempt to to justify your racism though
this case just happened to involve the opposite of what you and your racists need to see in order to fleece more money out of others and then...buy mansions and stuff for those in charge. the masses of those who supported them and "peacefully rioted" got jack chit-classic
oh, btw, for those of you from Rio Linda, the 4 murdered law enforcement were white whom you wanted eradicated.
Still didn't answer the question.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 04, 2024, 05:29:10 AM
for you folk hiding behind the sanctimonious BLM charade, yes, ALL lives matter, even the white law enforcement ones.
nice try working your weak attempt to to justify your racism though
this case just happened to involve the opposite of what you and your racists need to see in order to fleece more money out of others and then...buy mansions and stuff for those in charge. the masses of those who supported them and "peacefully rioted" got jack chit-classic
oh, btw, for those of you from Rio Linda, the 4 murdered law enforcement were white whom you wanted eradicated.
Yes. I am the racist, you're just the guy who has to bring up the race of shooters and police officers and then dodge the question as to why you brought that up when it had absolutely no relevance to the topic.
Got it.
By the way, white people who want black people to have equal rights are racist is one of your more interesting takes. And there are a lot of them!
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 04, 2024, 05:29:10 AM
ALL lives matter, even the white law enforcement***
***Capitol Police excluded. They deserved the beating they took for hours, at the behest of the then-president, for getting in the way of patriots' attempts to hang the then-vice president.
'Hang Mike Pence' was a rhetorical flourish. The gallows were simply emphasis. The VP was never in any real danger. And verbal threats are just part of the protest.
I remember when I went to the Holocaust Museum with my 79-year-old dad (who was dying of cancer) and about a half-dozen other family members back in 1998. After spending several hours at the museum and seeing a few other D.C. sites, we beat some Capitol Police with tire irons and sprayed them with mace because, hey, that's what peaceful tourists do. It was especially fun when my dad smacked a cop in the head with his walker. Truly a heroic patriot.
Push back, man. Don't be shouted down. That's what I do each and every day, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 04, 2024, 08:11:35 AM
Push back, man. Don't be shouted down. That's what I do each and every day, hey?
That's what your latest hero, Kristi Noem, did when she "stared down" Kim Jung Un.
"I remember when I met with the North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un," she writes. "I'm sure he underestimated me, having no clue about my experience staring down little tyrants (I'd been a children's pastor after all)."So what if she never actually met the guy? Facts no matta!
https://apnews.com/article/kristi-noem-book-north-korea-90e61965e9ac486e52cec5b35da41f47
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 04, 2024, 08:11:35 AM
Push back, man. Don't be shouted down. That's what I do each and every day, hey?
I'm not sure what you're doing is pushing back. There needs to be a substantive argument supporting what you say instead of just repeating slogans and platitudes.
Quote from: MU82 on May 04, 2024, 08:58:05 AM
That's what your latest hero, Kristi Noem, did when she "stared down" Kim Jung Un.
"I remember when I met with the North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un," she writes. "I'm sure he underestimated me, having no clue about my experience staring down little tyrants (I'd been a children's pastor after all)."
So what if she never actually met the guy? Facts no matta!
https://apnews.com/article/kristi-noem-book-north-korea-90e61965e9ac486e52cec5b35da41f47
So her puppy was a little tyrant now?!?
Quote from: cheebs09 on May 04, 2024, 09:15:37 AM
So her puppy was a little tyrant now?!?
Yeah, instead shooting Kim and re-homing the puppy, she shot the puppy and lied about Kim. I mean, who among us hasn't made similar mistakes?
Meanwhile ... in crime closer to Marquette ... the Mt. Horeb shooter was a 14-year-old kid. Gunz 4 Everybody!
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 04, 2024, 08:11:35 AM
Push back, man. Don't be shouted down. That's what I do each and every day, hey?
Your anonymous internet coursge will never be forgotten.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 04, 2024, 09:49:44 AM
Your anonymous interest coursge will never be forgotten.
Well, he does PM posters here on scoop when someone makes fun of a poster he doesn't like. That's courage you won't find in Washington
Quote from: MU82 on May 04, 2024, 09:33:06 AM
Meanwhile ... in crime closer to Marquette ... the Mt. Horeb shooter was a 14-year-old kid. Gunz 4 Everybody!
Shooter? Who or what did this child shoot?
Quote from: Pakuni on May 04, 2024, 09:49:44 AM
Your anonymous internet coursge will never be forgotten.
Likewise kin, hey?
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 04, 2024, 10:27:44 AM
Shooter? Who or what did this child shoot?
He shot a gun. Ergo, he is a shooter.
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 04, 2024, 10:44:03 AM
Oh. How many shots?
Why'd the cops shoot him then? They need to be prosecuted then
Quote from: tower912 on May 03, 2024, 09:35:17 AM
And recividism is, as always, far too common.
Recidivism sure seems to keep happening.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on May 04, 2024, 11:02:11 AM
Recidivism sure seems to keep happening.
Yeah. Reform prisons and post incarceration quality of life.
Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on May 04, 2024, 11:13:50 AM
Yeah. Reform prisons and post incarceration quality of life.
Recidivism isn't much of an issue in Saudi Arabia.
#morebeheadingsistheonlyanswer
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on May 04, 2024, 11:02:11 AM
Recidivism sure seems to keep happening.
Almost like we aren't even trying to reform convicted criminals. Hmmmm I wonder why we do that.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 04, 2024, 07:00:52 PM
Almost like we aren't even trying to reform convicted criminals. Hmmmm I wonder why we do that.
https://alabamareflector.com/2023/12/13/lawsuit-alleges-alabama-prisons-using-forced-labor/#:~:text=Under%20convict%2Dleasing%2C%20private%20companies,from%20prison%20labor%20in%202023.
Comes with room and board
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 03, 2024, 06:53:07 PM
if a doctor causes harm on a patient, they are held responsible and rightly so. so should judges and anyone else associated with releasing a felon.
Maybe the dumbest analogy in the history of social media.
Quote from: Mutaman on May 05, 2024, 12:07:07 AM
Maybe the dumbest analogy in the history of social media.
coming from you? dumb analogy? somehow makes me think it hits home
you guys never having to be held responsible for your multiple dumb ass decisions is why this world is so f'd up
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 05, 2024, 07:30:37 AM
coming from you? dumb analogy? somehow makes me think it hits home
you guys never having to be held responsible for your multiple dumb ass decisions is why this world is so f'd up
I don't think it is reasonable to hold a governor responsible for the actions of everyone released on parole during their administration.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 05, 2024, 07:44:41 AM
I don't think it is reasonable to hold a governor responsible for the actions of everyone released on parole during their administration.
we can do better
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 05, 2024, 07:52:30 AM
we can do better
I'm not sure what that means. Parole always comes with risks. Releasing people after they serve their full sentence comes with risks. Life comes with risks.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 05, 2024, 07:55:24 AM
I'm not sure what that means. Parole always comes with risks. Releasing people after they serve their full sentence comes with risks. Life comes with risks.
some people die, some people live, some people get raped, some people only get a flesh wound...oh well
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 05, 2024, 08:03:50 AM
some people die, some people live, some people get raped, some people only get a flesh wound...oh well
Actually everyone dies at some point.
But you aren't addressing what the alternatives are. No parole? Mandatory lifetime sentences no matter the crime? Because the fact is that people who have been released on parole are going to commit crimes. That's going to happen no matter what and no matter who is the governor.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 05, 2024, 08:03:50 AM
some people die, some people live, some people get raped, some people only get a flesh wound...oh well
What's your solution?
Quote from: Mutaman on May 05, 2024, 12:07:07 AM
Maybe the dumbest analogy in the history of social media.
Give it a few moments. He'll top himself
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 05, 2024, 07:55:24 AM
I'm not sure what that means. Parole always comes with risks. Releasing people after they serve their full sentence comes with risks. Life comes with risks.
hows about judges and lawyers then?
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 05, 2024, 08:06:33 AM
Actually everyone dies at some point.
But you aren't addressing what the alternatives are. No parole? Mandatory lifetime sentences no matter the crime? Because the fact is that people who have been released on parole are going to commit crimes. That's going to happen no matter what and no matter who is the governor.
put the gov thing aside, let's start with those who are responsible for putting them in prison in the first place...or are supposed to...and keep them there until they show they are safe to live in society
maybe shortening up the rap sheets by a few pages would be a start
recidivism is off the charts and someone needs to held resposible for this
Juries convict people. Judges sentence them. Parole officers make recommendations on release. What exactly do you want them to do?
Again if you are asking for a risk free environment, that's not possible.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 05, 2024, 08:47:04 AM
put the gov thing aside, let's start with those who are responsible for putting them in prison in the first place...or are supposed to...and keep them there until they show they are safe to live in society
What's this actually mean?
Indefinite prison sentences for every crime? Re-write the Constitution to take away the right to bond?
How does one show they are safe to live in society? Who makes that judgement?
The rocket plan for fixing the criminal justice system seems seems big on platitudes, low on actionable details.
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recidivism is off the charts and someone needs to held resposible for this
How do you fix this?
You're great at complaining, not so great at offering actual solutions.
The purpose of the right-wing echo chamber is to stir up rage amongst the easily mislead, it certainly isn't to equip them with solutions to their imaginary problems. You're asking a fool for something he cannot possibly provide.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 05, 2024, 08:03:50 AM
some people die, some people live, some people get raped, some people only get a flesh wound...oh well
I am heartened to hear that you are vehemently against the 1-6-21 felons ever being released early - and certainly against them being pardoned for strictly political reasons.
Great that you're gonna vote against the presidential candidate who is promising to release these criminals - many of whom pleaded guilty to violent crimes against police officers, some of whom are leaders of lawless, seditionist, racist, antisemitic groups - into society.
Good to hear, roQQet. Thanks!
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 05, 2024, 08:47:04 AM
put the gov thing aside, let's start with those who are responsible for putting them in prison in the first place...or are supposed to...and keep them there until they show they are safe to live in society
maybe shortening up the rap sheets by a few pages would be a start
recidivism is off the charts and someone needs to held resposible for this
How about we start with prison reform? Seems like many learn a trade in prison, that trade being how to commit more crimes. Or let's go even further back than that. How about lets work on the reasons many commit crimes.
Recividism has always been off the charts. Just one more thing that has been an issue for decades that is suddenly a source of trollflake fauxrage.
Quote from: lawdog77 on May 05, 2024, 10:24:59 AM
How about we start with prison reform? Seems like many learn a trade in prison, that trade being how to commit more crimes. Or let's go even further back than that. How about lets work on the reasons many commit crimes.
If we moved Marquette's campus to Mequon people would be less tempted to commit crimes on it.
Yeah, doubt there no crime on the Concordia campus. NU blew that opportunity years ago, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 05, 2024, 02:23:59 PM
Yeah, doubt there no crime on the Concordia campus. NU blew that opportunity years ago, aina?
Northwestern?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 05, 2024, 02:23:59 PM
Yeah, doubt there no crime on the Concordia campus. NU blew that opportunity years ago, aina?
Northeastern?
Fat fingered da M for and N. First mistake this year, aina?
Quote from: MU82 on May 05, 2024, 09:31:41 AM
I am heartened to hear that you are vehemently against the 1-6-21 felons ever being released early - and certainly against them being pardoned for strictly political reasons.
Great that you're gonna vote against the presidential candidate who is promising to release these criminals - many of whom pleaded guilty to violent crimes against police officers, some of whom are leaders of lawless, seditionist, racist, antisemitic groups - into society.
Good to hear, roQQet. Thanks!
Many of those crimes consisted of merely walking into the Capitol and you're happy that fellow Americans are held for years without even seeing a court to defend themselves ? Let's vote for the administration who also admits 10MM unvetted coming for free stuff; then surreptitiously dumps them in unsuspecting cities in the dead of night. Nice
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 05, 2024, 05:40:02 PM
Many of those crimes consisted of merely walking into the Capitol and you're happy that fellow Americans are held for years without even seeing a court to defend themselves ?
You are suggesting that people are being held "for years" without getting a hearing in court?
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 05, 2024, 05:40:02 PM
Many of those crimes consisted of merely walking into the Capitol
Riiiggghhhht. And the Barrow Gang just made a bunch of bank withdrawals.
Quoteand you're happy that fellow Americans are held for years without even seeing a court to defend themselves ?
Name one 1/6 defendant who's been held for years without seeing a court to defend him/herself.
I have access to PACER. I'll tell you when, where and how often they've seen a court.
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Let's vote for the administration who also admits 10MM unvetted coming for free stuff; then surreptitiously dumps them in unsuspecting cities in the dead of night. Nice
Are you talking about Abbott or DeSantis?
Documentation, please.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 05, 2024, 03:18:25 PM
Fat fingered da M for and N. First mistake this year, aina?
Typical Demtist
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 05, 2024, 05:40:02 PM
Many of those crimes consisted of merely walking into the Capitol and you're happy that fellow Americans are held for years without even seeing a court to defend themselves ? Let's vote for the administration who also admits 10MM unvetted coming for free stuff; then surreptitiously dumps them in unsuspecting cities in the dead of night. Nice
Pretty much everything here is false. But if you support beating the hell out of cops and trying to hang the vice president while the president ignores his own daughter's pleas to put a stop to it, that's your right.
LOL at WsW using MM for people.
Hello, former accountant.
Quote from: MU82 on May 05, 2024, 10:52:59 PM
Pretty much everything here is false. But if you support beating the hell out of cops and trying to hang the vice president while the president ignores his own daughter's pleas to put a stop to it, that's your right.
Your info is the fallacy..NO police where beaten and none of what you claim transpired. Capitol police whistleblowers have debunked that scenario. The pleas that were denied where the repeated requests for National Guard troops. Curious how the jan.6th committee after holding their show and carefully crafted investigation destroyed all their evidence including videos . Why is that?
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 06, 2024, 03:16:36 PM
Your info is the fallacy..NO police where beaten and none of what you claim transpired.
If by "no police where (sic) beaten" you mean "about 140 were assaulted" you are correct. About half were Capitol Police, the other have DC metro.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 06, 2024, 03:16:36 PM
Your info is the fallacy..NO police where beaten and none of what you claim transpired. Capitol police whistleblowers have debunked that scenario. The pleas that were denied where the repeated requests for National Guard troops. Curious how the jan.6th committee after holding their show and carefully crafted investigation destroyed all their evidence including videos . Why is that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teJ-jnjSSKE
I think I found WellsstreetWanderer. Just some peaceful protestors out here exercising their constitutional rights. No police "where" (smart) beaten, indeed. We don't have a bunch of videos to prove it. That's all fake news and AI generated.
::)
Quote from: wadesworld on May 06, 2024, 03:33:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teJ-jnjSSKE
I think I found WellsstreetWanderer. Just some peaceful protestors out here exercising their constitutional rights. No police "where" (smart) beaten, indeed. We don't have a bunch of videos to prove it. That's all fake news and AI generated.
I watched the whole Jan.6th thing unfold real time and i have questions. I saw Capitol police escorting people throughout the building waiting ,In some instances, for them to catch up and going up staircases ; I saw people walking through halls peacefully staying between the velvet ropes. I can't deny what I saw and no one can answer why normally locked doors to the entrances where open. No one questions there were some bad actors in the crowd but the treatment of curious citizens is reprehensible. People are being denied the right to a speedy trial for political purposes. Much of this has the whiff of Russian dossier hysteria
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 06, 2024, 03:56:20 PM
I watched the whole Jan.6th thing unfold real time and i have questions. I saw Capitol police escorting people throughout the building waiting ,In some instances, for them to catch up and going up staircases ; I saw people walking through halls peacefully staying between the velvet ropes. I can't deny what I saw and no one can answer why normally locked doors to the entrances where open. No one questions there were some bad actors in the crowd but the treatment of curious citizens is reprehensible. People are being denied the right to a speedy trial for political purposes. Much of this has the whiff of Russian dossier hysteria
Serious question. Do you know the difference between the word "where" and "were?" It doesn't seem like it, and kind of explains a lot.
Brownshirts. Attempting a putsch.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 06, 2024, 03:56:20 PM
I watched the whole Jan.6th thing unfold real time and i have questions. I saw Capitol police escorting people throughout the building waiting ,In some instances, for them to catch up and going up staircases ; I saw people walking through halls peacefully staying between the velvet ropes. I can't deny what I saw and no one can answer why normally locked doors to the entrances where open. No one questions there were some bad actors in the crowd but the treatment of curious citizens is reprehensible. People are being denied the right to a speedy trial for political purposes. Much of this has the whiff of Russian dossier hysteria
I'll ask again, name the Jan. 6 defendant(s) who's being denied legal rights.
Thanks
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 06, 2024, 03:56:20 PM
I watched the whole Jan.6th thing unfold real time and i have questions. I saw Capitol police escorting people throughout the building waiting ,In some instances, for them to catch up and going up staircases ; I saw people walking through halls peacefully staying between the velvet ropes. I can't deny what I saw and no one can answer why normally locked doors to the entrances where open. No one questions there were some bad actors in the crowd but the treatment of curious citizens is reprehensible. People are being denied the right to a speedy trial for political purposes. Much of this has the whiff of Russian dossier hysteria
The "escorting" conspiracy theory has been debunked numerous times.
Why do you support a violent, cop-crushing coup attempt against America? That has the whiff of a traitor to it.
Also, this:
Quote from: Pakuni on May 06, 2024, 04:11:33 PM
I'll ask again, name the Jan. 6 defendant(s) who's being denied legal rights.
Thanks
I didn't think it would ever happen, but Rocket has a serious challenger for dumbest poster.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 06, 2024, 04:11:33 PM
I'll ask again, name the Jan. 6 defendant(s) who's being denied legal rights.
Thanks
Sounds like Wells Street Wanderer was there, and is posting these comments from his jail cell, awaiting trial.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 06, 2024, 03:56:20 PM
I watched the whole Jan.6th thing unfold real time and i have questions. I saw Capitol police escorting people throughout the building waiting ,In some instances, for them to catch up and going up staircases ; I saw people walking through halls peacefully staying between the velvet ropes. I can't deny what I saw and no one can answer why normally locked doors to the entrances where open. No one questions there were some bad actors in the crowd but the treatment of curious citizens is reprehensible. People are being denied the right to a speedy trial for political purposes. Much of this has the whiff of Russian dossier hysteria
Walking peacefully...curious citizens...Just some tourists in the Capitol building, right?
If those curious citizens were Russian and did that in the Russian Capitol building, I think maybe,
just maybe they would have faced far more serious consequences.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on May 06, 2024, 06:23:59 PM
Walking peacefully...curious citizens...Just some tourists in the Capitol building, right?
If those curious citizens were Russian and did that in the Russian Capitol building, I think maybe, just maybe they would have faced far more serious consequences.
Or if they were illegal immigrants doing it in America the fake AI videos of attacks on police officers that definitely didn't happen would be proof that we need a wall.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on May 06, 2024, 05:34:19 PM
I didn't think it would ever happen, but Rocket has a serious challenger for dumbest poster.
At least we know Tucker Carlson's Scoop handle now.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on May 06, 2024, 05:34:19 PM
I didn't think it would ever happen, but Rocket has a serious challenger for dumbest poster.
coming from you says i'm hitting some nerves of the "smartest guys" in the room-boo-yah!!
aww come on man, I can do better
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 06, 2024, 03:56:20 PM
I watched the whole Jan.6th thing unfold real time and i have questions. I saw Capitol police escorting people throughout the building waiting ,In some instances, for them to catch up and going up staircases ; I saw people walking through halls peacefully staying between the velvet ropes. I can't deny what I saw and no one can answer why normally locked doors to the entrances where open. No one questions there were some bad actors in the crowd but the treatment of curious citizens is reprehensible. People are being denied the right to a speedy trial for political purposes. Much of this has the whiff of Russian dossier hysteria
nice valiant efforts here WsW but you're speaking to the hierarchy of "know it all" here. when they get all your propaganda from the lame stream, there is nothing else and real news takes a back seat as they have it ALL. this is why "journalism" is dead
btw, do cannibals like shrimp n grits? shoulda been a good follow-up question, if they are allowed
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 07, 2024, 05:25:36 AM
nice valiant efforts here WsW but you're speaking to the hierarchy of "know it all" here. when they get all your propaganda from the lame stream, there is nothing else and real news takes a back seat as they have it ALL. this is why "journalism" is dead
btw, do cannibals like shrimp n grits? shoulda been a good follow-up question, if they are allowed
6 out of 10
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 07, 2024, 05:25:36 AM
nice valiant efforts here WsW but you're speaking to the hierarchy of "know it all" here. when they get all your propaganda from the lame stream, there is nothing else and real news takes a back seat as they have it ALL. this is why "journalism" is dead
btw, do cannibals like shrimp n grits? shoulda been a good follow-up question, if they are allowed
Congrats on Putin beginning another 6-year term today. Big day for you and your people.
Wells--
I've said it before, but the things you believe are just stunning. You're like a person that really, truly believes the earth is flat...and not in a satirical "birds aren't real" sort of way, but as a true believer, despite all evidence to the contrary.
You've claimed to "do your own research" and this is what you've come up with? No cops were beaten, despite mountains of video showing that exact thing? That the current administration is shipping immigrants to unsuspecting cities despite Desantis and Abbot bragging about it repeatedly on camera?
I'm curious how a person's brain can view information and come to the conclusion that not only doesn't it exist, but that reality is actually 180 degrees from what they've seen.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 05, 2024, 05:40:02 PM
Many of those crimes consisted of merely walking into the Capitol and you're happy that fellow Americans are held for years without even seeing a court to defend themselves ? Let's vote for the administration who also admits 10MM unvetted coming for free stuff; then surreptitiously dumps them in unsuspecting cities in the dead of night. Nice
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 06, 2024, 03:16:36 PM
Your info is the fallacy..NO police where beaten and none of what you claim transpired. Capitol police whistleblowers have debunked that scenario. The pleas that were denied where the repeated requests for National Guard troops. Curious how the jan.6th committee after holding their show and carefully crafted investigation destroyed all their evidence including videos . Why is that?
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 06, 2024, 03:56:20 PM
I watched the whole Jan.6th thing unfold real time and i have questions. I saw Capitol police escorting people throughout the building waiting ,In some instances, for them to catch up and going up staircases ; I saw people walking through halls peacefully staying between the velvet ropes. I can't deny what I saw and no one can answer why normally locked doors to the entrances where open. No one questions there were some bad actors in the crowd but the treatment of curious citizens is reprehensible. People are being denied the right to a speedy trial for political purposes. Much of this has the whiff of Russian dossier hysteria
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 07, 2024, 05:25:36 AM
nice valiant efforts here WsW but you're speaking to the hierarchy of "know it all" here. when they get all your propaganda from the lame stream, there is nothing else and real news takes a back seat as they have it ALL. this is why "journalism" is dead
btw, do cannibals like shrimp n grits? shoulda been a good follow-up question, if they are allowed
Says the guy who regurgitates Fox News...
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 06, 2024, 03:16:36 PM
Your info is the fallacy..NO police where beaten and none of what you claim transpired. Capitol police whistleblowers have debunked that scenario. The pleas that were denied where the repeated requests for National Guard troops. Curious how the jan.6th committee after holding their show and carefully crafted investigation destroyed all their evidence including videos . Why is that?
I have a friend who is a conservative and a Capitol Police officer. I assure you, he doesn't see things the way you're describing them.
I'll give you his phone number if you'd like to chat with him.
Quote from: wadesworld on May 07, 2024, 09:37:07 AM
Says the guy who regurgitates Fox News...
If I solely watched MSM I would have thought adam schiff saw the evidence,: believed 51 past and present Intelligence Officials who penned a letter declaring Hunter's laptop Russian propaganda. In addition, I would have believed the NIH and CDC that Ivermectin was a horse pill and not effective against Covid (recently acknowledged) and I would not have known about the Greater Barrington Declaration which was squelched by the above mentioned agencies and MSM. Fortunately, my scientific links brought that up before it was ignored. I don't watch one tune outlets for my info
and please, don't mistake me for someone who cares what you may think of me. By the same token, I don't disrespect anyone who disgarees with me either.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 10, 2024, 03:04:48 PM
If I solely watched MSM I would have thought adam schiff saw the evidence,: believed 51 past and present Intelligence Officials who penned a letter declaring Hunter's laptop Russian propaganda. In addition, I would have believed the NIH and CDC that Ivermectin was a horse pill and not effective against Covid (recently acknowledged) and I would not have known about the Greater Barrington Declaration which was squelched by the above mentioned agencies and MSM. Fortunately, my scientific links brought that up before it was ignored. I don't watch one tune outlets for my info
and please, don't mistake me for someone who cares what you may think of me. By the same token, I don't disrespect anyone who disgarees with me either.
Terminally online media illiterate.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 10, 2024, 03:04:48 PM
If I solely watched MSM I would have thought adam schiff saw the evidence,: believed 51 past and present Intelligence Officials who penned a letter declaring Hunter's laptop Russian propaganda. In addition, I would have believed the NIH and CDC that Ivermectin was a horse pill and not effective against Covid (recently acknowledged) and I would not have known about the Greater Barrington Declaration which was squelched by the above mentioned agencies and MSM. Fortunately, my scientific links brought that up before it was ignored. I don't watch one tune outlets for my info
and please, don't mistake me for someone who cares what you may think of me. By the same token, I don't disrespect anyone who disgarees with me either.
Thankfully, the "news" outlet that pay $787 million for defaming Dominion voting machines set you straight on the alternative facts.
Drove downtown today (not shot at) and saw a guy unloading his golf clubs on Milwaukee Street at the Marriott.
1.1 miles from Cobeen. A golfer. The same type of thug that attacked police officers, dragging them and causing pain, swelling and abrasions.
And you want me to send my daughter to this school? With golfers this close.
NO THANK YOU.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 10, 2024, 03:04:48 PM
If I solely watched MSM I would have thought adam schiff saw the evidence,: believed 51 past and present Intelligence Officials who penned a letter declaring Hunter's laptop Russian propaganda. In addition, I would have believed the NIH and CDC that Ivermectin was a horse pill and not effective against Covid (recently acknowledged) and I would not have known about the Greater Barrington Declaration which was squelched by the above mentioned agencies and MSM. Fortunately, my scientific links brought that up before it was ignored. I don't watch one tune outlets for my info
and please, don't mistake me for someone who cares what you may think of me. By the same token, I don't disrespect anyone who disgarees with me either.
Amazing.
I don't think Uncle Rico even has a scale for you.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 17, 2024, 09:54:33 PM
Amazing.
I don't think Uncle Rico even has a scale for you.
and we all know how reeeko is held in such high regard here
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Quote from: MU82 on May 10, 2024, 03:24:59 PM
Thankfully, the "news" outlet that pay $787 million for defaming Dominion voting machines set you straight on the alternative facts.
Not directed at MU82.
I am shocked. Truly shocked at the Jan 6 alternate reality. Sad sad day for America. The most distressing thing for American politics in my lifetime. Nothing comes close.
So, what if everyone ignored all the propaganda stations and instead studied bias and why we are illogical and so easily nudged and influenced into an alternate reality. And apply this knowledge to the self. This can apply to both extremes both parties. We all can do better and shut off the crazy and be careful who has sway (and for some control of) our minds, over what we think.
And for perspective, I am a former card carrying republican who has attended conventions as a delegate. I am no longer a republican. Not trumps new republican party. Jan 6th was a horror show. Nothing less. To deny it is, well I'll stop there. The psychology on why people need to deny and over identification with a party or tribe is fascinating. Let's leave it there.
Yes.
Quote from: GOO on May 18, 2024, 08:38:10 AM
Not directed at MU82.
I am shocked. Truly shocked at the Jan 6 alternate reality. Sad sad day for America. The most distressing thing for American politics in my lifetime. Nothing comes close.
So, what if everyone ignored all the propaganda stations and instead studied bias and why we are illogical and so easily nudged and influenced into an alternate reality. And apply this knowledge to the self. This can apply to both extremes both parties. We all can do better and shut off the crazy and be careful who has sway (and for some control of) our minds, over what we think.
And for perspective, I am a former card carrying republican who has attended conventions as a delegate. I am no longer a republican. Not trumps new republican party. Jan 6th was a horror show. Nothing less. To deny it is, well I'll stop there. The psychology on why people need to deny and over identification with a party or tribe is fascinating. Let's leave it there.
It's remarkable. They have such fealty to their cult leader that they deny what their own eyes and ears witnessed. But that's the power of a cult.
GOO, I'm sorry about what happened to your former party. I've heard many stories similar to yours, including my very best Marquette friend. The party abandoned its principles to worship a charlatan. A damn shame.
Nads, flip the elephants for donkeys and I agree 💯%. What duz dis havero due wit crime 'round MU, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 18, 2024, 01:41:04 PM
Nads, flip the elephants for donkeys and I agree 💯%. What duz dis havero due wit crime 'round MU, hey?
Because there's rumors the Marquette golfer who menaced Lens came from a course in Mequon
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 18, 2024, 01:41:04 PM
Nads, flip the elephants for donkeys and I agree 💯%. What duz dis havero due wit crime 'round MU, hey?
Which false god does Independents or Democrats worship? Which politician co-opted the Democratic Party? Which Democrat or Independent fomented a violent coup attempt against America, even as his own family members begged him to intervene? Which Independent or Democrat is being cheered on by his lapdogs while on trial for paying hush money to cover up an affair with a porn actress?
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In response to an uptick in vehicle break-ins across the City of Milwaukee, Marquette University Police Department is reminding drivers on campus to remove valuable items from their vehicles. Perpetrators are breaking car windows and grabbing visible/accessible items of value.
If you witness a car break-in, do not engage the perpetrators. In looking at recent trends, most of these crimes are committed by organized, larger groups of people.
Be a good witness:
Stay safe. Keep a safe distance and do not draw attention to your presence
Call MUPD at (414) 288-1911. Share as much information as you can gather.
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Always good advice.
Updates from Marquette Police
Safety Update: Report if Seen — Aug. 14, 2024
The Marquette University Police Department advises the Marquette community to notify MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800 if you see the individual pictured below. The subject, who is not affiliated with Marquette, is wanted for questioning in an assault that occurred outside the MUPD patrol zone. Do not approach the subject as he may be armed and dangerous.
Report If Seen Subject imageName: Ethan W. Hickman
Age: 18
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 125 pounds
If you observe any suspicious behavior or fear for your safety at any time, contact MUPD at (414) 288-1911 or through the mobile blue light feature on the Eagle Eye app.
Quote from: MU82 on May 18, 2024, 05:03:03 PM
Which false god does Independents or Democrats worship? Which politician co-opted the Democratic Party? Which Democrat or Independent fomented a violent coup attempt against America, even as his own family members begged him to intervene? Which Independent or Democrat is being cheered on by his lapdogs while on trial for paying hush money to cover up an affair with a porn actress?
We were warning everyone that the Democrats were gaslighting us these past four years.
When America saw it on June 28, the Democrats quickly deep-sixed poor Joe.
Now we are paying for the ineptitude of leadership these past four years.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 14, 2024, 12:34:13 PM
Updates from Marquette Police
Safety Update: Report if Seen — Aug. 14, 2024
The Marquette University Police Department advises the Marquette community to notify MUPD immediately at (414) 288-6800 if you see the individual pictured below. The subject, who is not affiliated with Marquette, is wanted for questioning in an assault that occurred outside the MUPD patrol zone. Do not approach the subject as he may be armed and dangerous.
Report If Seen Subject imageName: Ethan W. Hickman
Age: 18
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 125 pounds
If you observe any suspicious behavior or fear for your safety at any time, contact MUPD at (414) 288-1911 or through the mobile blue light feature on the Eagle Eye app.
I certainly hope the miscreant, the non-MU student who committed his crime outside the MUPD patrol zone, is apprehended and punished appropriately.
No you don't, hey?
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 14, 2024, 01:40:31 PM
Why wouldn't he?
The inevitable random lashing out had to start somewhere. (Yawn)
Quote from: tower912 on August 14, 2024, 02:04:09 PM
The inevitable random lashing out had to start somewhere. (Yawn)
Despite its crime-ridden neighborhood, Marquette is kicking a$$ on first-year deposits for this upcoming fall. Double digit percentage increase from what I understand.
Quote from: tower912 on August 14, 2024, 01:33:35 PM
I certainly hope the miscreant, the non-MU student who committed his crime outside the MUPD patrol zone, is apprehended and punished appropriately.
Word is, he helicoptered in with somebody named or not named Brown, who might or might not have been African-American, and the helicopter might have or might not have almost crashed. And if anybody says otherwise, he'll sue ... or not.
Heard he was bussed in from Mequon
Quote from: NCMUFan on August 14, 2024, 01:15:30 PM
We were warning everyone that the Democrats were gaslighting us these past four years.
When America saw it on June 28, the Democrats quickly deep-sixed poor Joe.
Now we are paying for the ineptitude of leadership these past four years.
Paying bigly! America's GDP is the envy of the world; homicides and violent crimes are down; the stock market is near an all-time high; most corporate earnings have been very good; unemployment is near an all-time low; wages have been rising; inflation is trending much lower, which soon will lead to rate cuts; the Covid recession that started under the previous administration is long over; important projects are finally taking place thanks to the passage of infrastructure and semiconductor legislation, which the previous administration failed to deliver; America is producing more oil than at any time in its history even as it ramps up alternative energy; America's relationship with longstanding allies has been repaired; illegal immigration is trending significantly lower despite the previous president selfishly shutting down bipartisan legislation that was written by a top Republican; U.S. manufacturing output has been increasing; a jury convicted a corrupt criminal of 34 felonies; and a new presidential candidate is energizing voters across our great nation.
Enjoy!
Could we stick to fear mongering about safety of Marquette's campus?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 12, 2024, 03:35:04 PM
SAFETY UPDATE: MUPD reminds drivers to not leave valuables in unattended vehicles
In response to an uptick in vehicle break-ins across the City of Milwaukee, Marquette University Police Department is reminding drivers on campus to remove valuable items from their vehicles. Perpetrators are breaking car windows and grabbing visible/accessible items of value.
If you witness a car break-in, do not engage the perpetrators. In looking at recent trends, most of these crimes are committed by organized, larger groups of people.
Be a good witness:
Stay safe. Keep a safe distance and do not draw attention to your presence
Call MUPD at (414) 288-1911. Share as much information as you can gather.
If you observe any suspicious behavior or fear for your safety at any time, contact MUPD at (414) 288-1911 or through the mobile Blue Light feature on the EagleEye app. To utilize the mobile Blue Light feature, enable location services on your phone.
I've been downtown four times this summer and twice I've come back to a shattered window. I already don't leave valuables in the car, so I guess the next step (other than avoiding the area) is to just leave the car doors open. I did feel pretty stupid having to go to the same guy to get my window replaced twice in two weeks. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Safety Update: Suspect in custody
The Milwaukee Police Department have taken into custody a suspect wanted for questioning in an assault that occurred outside the MUPD patrol zone, which was shared with the Marquette community via the below update on August 14, 2024. Charges are pending.
Marquette University is grateful for the responsiveness and professionalism displayed by the Milwaukee Police Department and our MUPD officers.
Great. Lock him up!
Quote from: tower912 on August 14, 2024, 06:51:00 PM
Great. Lock him up!
i know i'm on tower's big IG list(his loss) but his seemingly nonchalant/careless sympathy for the victims is disgusting...nothing to see here. probably donates to minnysoda freedom fund
Quote from: rocket surgeon on August 14, 2024, 07:03:00 PM
i know i'm on tower's big IG list(his loss) but his seemingly nonchalant/careless sympathy for the victims is disgusting...nothing to see here. probably donates to minnysoda freedom fund
Careless Sympathy, from the wrecked "mind" of roqqet.
Quote from: MU82 on August 14, 2024, 04:12:06 PM
Paying bigly! America's GDP is the envy of the world; homicides and violent crimes are down; the stock market is near an all-time high; most corporate earnings have been very good; unemployment is near an all-time low; wages have been rising; inflation is trending much lower, which soon will lead to rate cuts; the Covid recession that started under the previous administration is long over; important projects are finally taking place thanks to the passage of infrastructure and semiconductor legislation, which the previous administration failed to deliver; America is producing more oil than at any time in its history even as it ramps up alternative energy; America's relationship with longstanding allies has been repaired; illegal immigration is trending significantly lower despite the previous president selfishly shutting down bipartisan legislation that was written by a top Republican; U.S. manufacturing output has been increasing; a jury convicted a corrupt criminal of 34 felonies; and a new presidential candidate is energizing voters across our great nation.
Enjoy!
Sign me up for paying for four more years of these results. Though the entertainment value is way down, what wirth the lack of half the staff being convicted of crimes.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on August 14, 2024, 08:31:00 PM
Careless Sympathy, from the wrecked "mind" of roqqet.
Awwww. That's adorable.
Quote from: tower912 on August 14, 2024, 08:47:15 PM
Awwww. That's adorable.
This nonchalant agreeableness is disgusting!
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on August 14, 2024, 08:35:59 PM
Sign me up for paying for four more years of these results. Though the entertainment value is way down, what wirth the lack of half the staff being convicted of crimes.
On a local note, congrats to Wisconsin Republicans for decisively voting against two 2020 election deniers who were running for state legislative spots, including one who actively tried to cheat to keep the then-president in office. Now that Wisconsin maps have been un-gerrymandered, should make for an interesting (and far fairer) state election in November.
Quote from: MU82 on August 15, 2024, 06:23:40 AM
On a local note, congrats to Wisconsin Republicans for decisively voting against two 2020 election deniers who were running for state legislative spots, including one who actively tried to cheat to keep the then-president in office. Now that Wisconsin maps have been un-gerrymandered, should make for an interesting (and far fairer) state election in November.
Why do you keep doing this?
Quote from: CountryRoads on August 14, 2024, 05:52:32 PM
I've been downtown four times this summer and twice I've come back to a shattered window. I already don't leave valuables in the car, so I guess the next step (other than avoiding the area) is to just leave the car doors open. I did feel pretty stupid having to go to the same guy to get my window replaced twice in two weeks. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
I have been downtown MKE several times, including parking on the street at 419 W Vliet St for a MU game twice. Yet, no break ins. Hmmm. Kinda weird, man.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on August 14, 2024, 07:03:00 PM
i know i'm on tower's big IG list(his loss) but his seemingly nonchalant/careless sympathy for the victims is disgusting...nothing to see here. probably donates to minnysoda freedom fund
I know, right? tower's is treating the victim like one would a person afflicted with cancer.