Butler up on Xavier by 1 with 13 minutes left in the game
Butler still making annoying 3's
Butler about to make BEast a 6 bud league.
Quote from: fjm on March 09, 2022, 05:07:42 PM
Butler about to make BEast a 6 bud league.
They're such a pain in the ass
Xavier looking at that Wake performance as aspirational
Quote from: fjm on March 09, 2022, 05:07:42 PM
Butler about to make BEast a 6 bud league.
Xavier about to make BEast a 6 bid league.
X gonna survive and dance.
X over Providence aina
X misses four straight FTs. They matta.
Scrugs is insufferable man. Screw him.
Quote from: Oldgym on March 09, 2022, 05:39:51 PM
X misses four straight FTs. They matta.
Jay bee at the tourney sitting court side right now telling Xavier "you guys don't need these... trust me"
Tied
Nice bucket by Scruggs. But I am now ok with him and X not making the tourney.
Goodness, Scruggs
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 09, 2022, 05:45:49 PM
Goodness, Scruggs
Dude what is this Scruggs guy doing!!?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 09, 2022, 05:45:49 PM
Goodness, Scruggs
This again. What a boneheaded idiot foul.
Oh my God. How to be the most clutch and the least clutch in 2 plays
I totally get X fans' frustration with Steele.
I promise I wont jinx us with premature comments tomorrow
What in the world
Wojo in the crowd yelling foul him were only up by 2!!
Oh my god that was hilarious. How to lose a tourney bid in 1 minute of game time.
Legit question, did Scruggs think they were up 3???
This thing was over.
X is 8-19 from the stripe.
Butler scored 8 points in the final 45 seconds
This is crazy. FTs matta.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 09, 2022, 05:50:11 PM
Legit question, did Scruggs think they were up 3???
The only possible explanation for what he did.
You can't spell NIT without Xavier
X is somehow gonna end up losing this game they should have won about 6-8 different times. What a choke
Didn't Brew say Butler could be the bid thief from the BE, if there was one?
Can both teams lose this game? They are trying
Lol, Kunkel didn't have a chance
I'm really glad we aren't waiting for our turn to play today, which is being pushed later and later.
Somehow this OT by Xavier is even worse than Wake's
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 09, 2022, 05:57:01 PM
You can't spell NIT without Xavier
Might be a good thing, as that might be it for Travis Steele.
Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on March 09, 2022, 06:01:25 PM
I'm really glad we aren't waiting for our turn to play today, which is being pushed later and later.
Indeed. Looks like it's gonna be a late night in the garden!
This could be it for Travis Steele. That roster had too much talent to suck as bad as they have from February 1st through today.
Xavier being Felixed by the Lithuanian kid
X is 3 for 14 from 3 and 13 of 29 from the stripe.
Travis Steele dropping f bombs
Can't blame Travis Steele.
Jay Bee and the "free throws no Matta musketeers" choked. Steele had them in position but he can't shoot the FT's for them or prevent them from listening to jay bee.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on March 09, 2022, 05:55:59 PM
The only possible explanation for what he did.
Brando didn't seem to grasp that. He kept saying you wait to see if they are shooting a 3 and then foul. Unless I heard wrong, he totally misread that whole situation. Agree the only plausible explanation was that Scruggs thought they were up 3. Steele in the uncomfortable position of covering for Scruggs in the post-game and taking responsibility while his job is potentially at stake. Brutal loss for X.
PS - Free throws matta
That's a back breaking loss for X. Would have been good for the conference to get another team in, but they're toast now.
An ode to Xavier:
I don't want no Scruggs
A Scruggs is a guy that can't get no love from me
Missin' shots at the free throw line. Long, short, left, and right
Then he fouls when he thinks he's up three
Quote from: JWags85 on March 09, 2022, 06:01:31 PM
Somehow this OT by Xavier is even worse than Wake's
I took both of those teams live ML early in the second half too.
FT's no matta
Steele y Scruggs are idiots. Awful
Sounds Ike a colossal meltdown by XU. I didn't see it but did Scruggs intentionally foul up 2? He didn't know the score?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 09, 2022, 08:47:52 PM
Sounds Ike a colossal meltdown by XU. I didn't see it but did Scruggs intentionally foul up 2? He didn't know the score?
Correct
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 09, 2022, 06:41:52 PM
FT's no matta
Steele y Scruggs are idiots. Awful
Free throws mattered bigly
Quote from: TSmith34 on March 09, 2022, 09:10:38 PM
Free throws mattered bigly
13 for 29?? How could that not matter? Unless my phone box score is wrong?
Quite the rock fight in the nightcap so far.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 09, 2022, 06:03:42 PM
Indeed. Looks like it's gonna be a late night in the garden!
You're telling me. My daughter is a Georgetown alum, so we're here to the bitter end.
I'm grateful we didn't fall to the 6 seed.
I'd kind of like to see SH lose tonight, mainly because I dislike them, but also because I think MU has a better resume despite what the computers say.
Although I think they are close in the NET to giving MU another Q1 win
Quote from: DoctorV on March 09, 2022, 09:47:19 PM
I'd kind of like to see SH lose tonight, mainly because I dislike them, but also because I think MU has a better resume despite what the computers say.
Although I think they are close in the NET to giving MU another Q1 win
We absolutely have a better resume and smacked them twice.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 09, 2022, 08:47:52 PM
Sounds Ike a colossal meltdown by XU. I didn't see it but did Scruggs intentionally foul up 2? He didn't know the score?
I imagine Steel said "When he makes the FT, we are fouling up 3". Scruggs missed the FT, and proceeded to foul at half court, forgetting the part about we foul up 3, AFTER making the FT.
What a colossal choke job. I had flashbacks to Wojo screaming foul in a tied game, thinking we were behind.
And, after 5 minutes of stumbling, Tim Brando and Raft can't seem to understand what happened. ! Brando kept saying you foul up 2, just before the opponent shoots a 3. WHAT???? Unbelievable! Man is Brando bad. I like Raft, but his best days are in the rear view mirror. He was mostly silent during all of this.
Quote from: 94Warrior on March 09, 2022, 09:50:12 PM
I imagine Steel said "When he makes the FT, we are fouling up 3". Scruggs missed the FT, and proceeded to foul at half court, forgetting the part about we foul up 3, AFTER making the FT.
What a colossal choke job. I had flashbacks to Wojo screaming foul in a tied game, thinking we were behind.
And, after 5 minutes of stumbling, Tim Brando and Raft can't seem to understand what happened. ! Brando kept saying you foul up 2, just before the opponent shoots a 3. WHAT???? Unbelievable! Man is Brando bad. I like Raft, but his best days are in the rear view mirror. He was mostly silent during all of this.
LOL. Ty for the recap.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 09, 2022, 09:48:38 PM
We absolutely have a better resume and smacked them twice.
Unfortunately we don't absolutely have a better resume.
About to say the Hoyas look like a different team tonight. Then they forgot the shot clock on two straight possessions.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 09, 2022, 09:58:07 PM
Unfortunately we don't absolutely have a better resume.
Disagree. We have better wins and punked them twice.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 09, 2022, 10:07:05 PM
Disagree. We have better wins and punked them twice.
You might want to check out Brew's article on Cracked Sidewalks.
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2022/03/seeding-primer-with-special-guest.html?m=1
Punked? We beat them twice, including a one point win.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 09, 2022, 10:26:02 PM
You might want to check out Brew's article on Cracked Sidewalks.
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2022/03/seeding-primer-with-special-guest.html?m=1
Punked? We beat them twice, including a one point win.
I disagree and feel strongly about our superiority. We controlled both games vs the Hall including a bludgeoning in their building for about 30 mins.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 09, 2022, 10:33:45 PM
I disagree and feel strongly about our superiority. We controlled both games vs the Hall including a bludgeoning in their building for about 30 mins.
Sure, disagree even though the numbers say otherwise.
Willard looks nervous.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 09, 2022, 09:40:09 PM
You're telling me. My daughter is a Georgetown alum, so we're here to the bitter end.
At least it's an entertaining nightcap so far!
Hard to believe Gtown is winless in the conference.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 09, 2022, 10:58:05 PM
Hard to believe Gtown is winless in the conference.
Is it though? This is an inspired death rattle performance to end the year. They still absolutely stink and only lost by 5 or less twice all BE season, to Butler and DePaul.
The real Gtown starting to show up offensively. Out of control. Forcing shots into blocks. Wild passes.
Still got a shot though.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 09, 2022, 11:03:43 PM
Is it though? This is an inspired death rattle performance to end the year. They still absolutely stink and only lost by 5 or less twice all BE season, to Butler and DePaul.
They're bad, no doubt about that. Still....0-19?
People talk a lot about Mohammad being a nice player to have transfer here(he would be)
Holloway is also a very solid player. A little out of control at times but hes strong and can shoot it a bit.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 09, 2022, 11:06:05 PM
They're bad, no doubt about that. Still....0-19?
Yes, the rule of blind squirrels and nuts would seem to apply. GU's passing is atrocious. Still...gonna be a fun finish.
Yup they blew it
HAHAHAHA
My god are they pathetic.
Is Carey like a senior??
Guy doesnt have a damn clue. Why does he even have the ball. Give it to Mohammed.
So will Gtown not can Ewing because of that extention?
F. I hate seaton hall. And their a$$hole fans.
Everyone live bet Seton Hall at + money I'm assuming.
Kevin Willard seems like a real piece of trash.
Also Jay Bee got to MSG/NYC just in time to learn ft's matter. Love it.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 09, 2022, 09:40:09 PM
You're telling me. My daughter is a Georgetown alum, so we're here to the bitter end.
And wow...it was bitter.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 09, 2022, 11:19:20 PM
Everyone live bet Seton Hall at + money I'm assuming.
Yes but at -1.5. Had the same bet on UVA and lost that one on a meaningless half court shot, so when Rice pulled up uncontested from just inside half court I almost lost my mind ;D
Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 09, 2022, 06:17:20 PM
That's a back breaking loss for X. Would have been good for the conference to get another team in, but they're toast now.
Whelp, that's 1.67 million out of the Big East's pocket. Thanks Butler.
Quote from: 1SE on March 10, 2022, 01:04:28 AM
Whelp, that's 1.67 million out of the Big East's pocket. Thanks Butler.
thanks xavier for missing endless fts and just sucking in in general. wojo like end of year collapse
Let the Madness begin. 9 Game winning streak starts today.
COLE if you disagree.
Quote from: fjm on March 09, 2022, 11:20:51 PM
Kevin Willard seems like a real piece of trash.
Also Jay Bee got to MSG/NYC just in time to learn ft's matter. Love it.
I don't understand Maryland's attraction to Willard unless he's using his media pals to get another raise. Maryland can do better. Real Peter Principle situation.
Xavier's inability to put the game away at the line are why FTs matter. I know what JB means when he says they don't, it's the volume of attempts that matter but in that situation, they absolutely matter. It may end up costing Xavier the tournament, a coach his job and the league money. Make your FTs and Scruggs isn't in position to make such a colossal mistake
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 10, 2022, 07:42:06 AM
I don't understand Maryland's attraction to Willard unless he's using his media pals to get another raise. Maryland can do better. Real Peter Principle situation.
Xavier's inability to put the game away at the line are why FTs matter. I know what JB means when he says they don't, it's the volume of attempts that matter but in that situation, they absolutely matter. It may end up costing Xavier the tournament, a coach his job and the league money. Make your FTs and Scruggs isn't in position to make such a colossal mistake
Yep. Of course, Scruggs missed 3 of the FTs in the last minute. And committed 3 stoopid fouls, including the real idiotic one at the end of regulation.
It truly was a well-earned loss by X.
Scruggs has been playing like he's betting against Xavier this year, especially lately
Quote from: 94Warrior on March 09, 2022, 09:50:12 PM
I imagine Steel said "When he makes the FT, we are fouling up 3". Scruggs missed the FT, and proceeded to foul at half court, forgetting the part about we foul up 3, AFTER making the FT.
What a colossal choke job. I had flashbacks to Wojo screaming foul in a tied game, thinking we were behind.
And, after 5 minutes of stumbling, Tim Brando and Raft can't seem to understand what happened. ! Brando kept saying you foul up 2, just before the opponent shoots a 3. WHAT???? Unbelievable! Man is Brando bad. I like Raft, but his best days are in the rear view mirror. He was mostly silent during all of this.
I'm glad this was driving someone else nuts! I posted about it above, as well. I could not believe Brando wasn't getting it. Moments later, Raft twice brought up Scruggs getting "a blow" to start OT, and wondering when Steele would bring him back. His intention foul with 8 seconds left was his fifth-that's why he was out. Brando didn't correct that either. Sort of seemed to me like they were being deferential to each other in not pointing out major blunders. Very strange.
I still like Raft though.
Quote from: StillWarriors on March 10, 2022, 09:28:25 AM
Sort of seemed to me like they were being deferential to each other in not pointing out major blunders. Very strange.
I still like Raft though.
This. A lot of broadcast crews work this way. I sometimes can't believe Bill Walton's play-by-play guy doesn't just punch him mid-sentence.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 10, 2022, 07:42:06 AM
I don't understand Maryland's attraction to Willard unless he's using his media pals to get another raise. Maryland can do better. Real Peter Principle situation.
The attraction is he's an established head coach with a couple of conference accomplishments but no success in the NCAAs that you can sell to the fanbase as a guy who knows what it takes but can do more with our resources.
Also, he'll take the call. That's the most important thing. He clearly wants out and was quite public a few years ago about that so Maryland allows him to move without being too far from the community of friends the family has developed in north Jersey as the Iona/Hall coach.
IMHO Scruggs cost them the game : 3 unnecessary fouls in less than a minute allowed Butler to tie the game and then he has to sit out the OT. That said Butler had 3 players foul out in regulation and it didn't affect them with their Freshman going en fuego .
We definitely want Prov over Butier.
MU in perfect position to win the BET.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 10, 2022, 11:05:32 AM
We definitely want Prov over Butier.
Preferably in a real grinder that goes to OT.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 10, 2022, 11:05:32 AM
We definitely want Prov over Butier.
MU in perfect position to win the BET.
Sadly, McDermott owns Shaka
Quote from: Oldgym on March 10, 2022, 09:34:12 AM
This. A lot of broadcast crews work this way. I sometimes can't believe Bill Walton's play-by-play guy doesn't just punch him mid-sentence.
Great read will answer your statement.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/03/09/working-with-walton-what-its-like-to-broadcast-a-game-alongside-the-popular-polarizing-pac-12-tv-analyst/
Quote from: DoctorV on March 10, 2022, 08:57:57 AM
Scruggs has been playing like he's betting against Xavier this year, especially lately
He's been bad. But the thing is that he also made two incredible shots down the stretch ... so he did a hell of a job hiding that the fix was on!
Quote from: StillWarriors on March 10, 2022, 09:28:25 AM
I'm glad this was driving someone else nuts! I posted about it above, as well. I could not believe Brando wasn't getting it. Moments later, Raft twice brought up Scruggs getting "a blow" to start OT, and wondering when Steele would bring him back. His intention foul with 8 seconds left was his fifth-that's why he was out. Brando didn't correct that either. Sort of seemed to me like they were being deferential to each other in not pointing out major blunders. Very strange.
I still like Raft though.
Yep, Brando and Raftery couldn't have been more clueless on the foul. I said, "Wut?" about 5 times as they kept (incorrectly) saying what happened. Of course, saying "Wut?" after Raftery talks is nothing new.
Raftery gives precious little insight. He mumbles coaching jargon under his breath, he's often just wrong about even simple things, he kowtows shamelessly to coaches, he makes obscure references that nobody younger than 50 understand, and he lives to throw out his little catchphrases.
But ...
He's like everybody's grandpa, he seems like a really good guy, he obviously loves college hoops, and he's not as obnoxious as Dickie V, so that explains his popularity. He's good for the game, even if he's not especially good at helping viewers know what's going on in a game.
Quote from: MU82 on March 10, 2022, 11:47:03 AM
He's been bad. But the thing is that he also made two incredible shots down the stretch ... so he did a hell of a job hiding that the fix was on!
Yep, Brando and Raftery couldn't have been more clueless on the foul. I said, "Wut?" about 5 times as they kept (incorrectly) saying what happened. Of course, saying "Wut?" after Raftery talks is nothing new.
Raftery gives precious little insight. He mumbles coaching jargon under his breath, he's often just wrong about even simple things, he kowtows shamelessly to coaches, he makes obscure references that nobody younger than 50 understand, and he lives to throw out his little catchphrases.
But ...
He's like everybody's grandpa, he seems like a really good guy, he obviously loves college hoops, and he's not as obnoxious as Dickie V, so that explains his popularity. He's good for the game, even if he's not especially good at helping viewers know what's going on in a game.
Raftery is 78. His best days are behind him. Maybe he should give politics a try.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 10, 2022, 11:26:45 AM
Great read will answer your statement.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/03/09/working-with-walton-what-its-like-to-broadcast-a-game-alongside-the-popular-polarizing-pac-12-tv-analyst/
Good article.
I get that Bill's a character and an ambassador to the game, esp out west. I've just heard him openly antagonize his partner more than once. I can almost hear what the other guy is thinking in the two seconds of dead air that follows.
Money quote: 'Pasch: "The first time I did a game with Bill was the NBA Finals in 2006. He claims it never happened."'
Providence better wake up.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 10, 2022, 11:05:32 AM
We definitely want Prov over Butier.
Curious as to why you think this? I'd rather play Butler who would be playing 3rd game in 3 days than Providence who is a far better team.
I'd rather just be playing on Friday.
Quote from: Oldgym on March 10, 2022, 11:59:47 AM
Good article.
I get that Bill's a character and an ambassador to the game, esp out west. I've just heard him openly antagonize his partner more than once. I can almost hear what the other guy is thinking in the two seconds of dead air that follows.
Money quote: 'Pasch: "The first time I did a game with Bill was the NBA Finals in 2006. He claims it never happened."'
Last season when they announced from their homes, in 1 game Pasch had made up a bingo card of Bill's off topic items and held it up to his webcam every time he could cross 1 off. I think he had a "bingo" before halftime, it was very funny.
Donny Marshall and Tim Brando believers in the "how hard it is to beat a team 3 times crowd"
God these Providence fans are annoying!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 10, 2022, 12:56:20 PM
Donny Marshall and Tim Brando believers in the "how hard it is to beat a team 3 times crowd"
I guess we'll be hearing a lot about how Creighton already beat MU twice.
Quote from: Miss Katie's on March 10, 2022, 01:00:09 PM
I guess we'll be hearing a lot about how Creighton already beat MU twice.
I've never been a Brando fan. He really forces it. Very cliched, too, but what are you going to do but get hammered drunk
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 10, 2022, 12:50:16 PM
Curious as to why you think this? I'd rather play Butler who would be playing 3rd game in 3 days than Providence who is a far better team.
It's better for our resume and potential seeding to beat Prov. Plus, as much as I hate their fans, it could move Providence down a few seeds and hence hurt the BEast.
I like this Lithuanian kid on Butler.
Butler is such a pain in the ass
Wow. What a lucky break for Prov.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 10, 2022, 01:03:57 PM
It's better for our resume and potential seeding to beat Prov. Plus, as much as I hate their fans, it could move Providence down a few seeds and hence hurt the BEast.
It's better if we win. Give me Butler every time
Doink
Doink
Doink
Doink
Wow.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 10, 2022, 01:14:45 PM
It's better if we win. Give me Butler every time
I would take that I suppose. Touche.
Al Durham
Brando might be the worst play by play guy to get big game. Lord he's terrible.
The 'dence advanaces in a hard fought battle
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 10, 2022, 01:09:05 PM
I like this Lithuanian kid on Butler.
I liked him more yesterday. Today he was more John Starks instead of Jean Felix.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 10, 2022, 01:21:05 PM
Brando might be the worst play by play guy to get big game. Lord he's terrible.
One thing I find bothersome is when the Big East broke off, on his show he is very adamant on how bad this was for the Big East and how much worse the conference would be.
Why would you make a guy like that your key announcer for you biggest tournament?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 10, 2022, 01:23:22 PM
The 'dence advanaces in a hard fought battle
How come when I called them "The Dence" I was ruthlessly attacked??
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 10, 2022, 01:25:19 PM
How come when I called them "The Dence" I was ruthlessly attacked??
You capitalized it
Cooley is very easy to root for. Great guy
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 10, 2022, 01:27:12 PM
Cooley is very easy to root for. Great guy
He'd be pretty good on TV, I think
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 10, 2022, 01:28:04 PM
He'd be pretty good on TV, I think
TV work def in his future
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 10, 2022, 01:27:12 PM
Cooley is very easy to root for. Great guy
Tremendous job pimping FOX, The BEast, and MSG!
Quote from: MarquetteDano on March 10, 2022, 01:25:12 PM
One thing I find bothersome is when the Big East broke off, on his show he is very adamant on how bad this was for the Big East and how much worse the conference would be.
Why would you make a guy like that your key announcer for you biggest tournament?
Many said that. That was 9 years ago. Egg on face. Rothstein said years ago the Big East, A-10 and American would be fight each other for bids.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 10, 2022, 01:30:01 PM
Tremendous job pimping FOX, The BEast, and MSG!
Cooley and Wright are the best at it.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 10, 2022, 01:28:04 PM
He'd be pretty good on TV, I think
I was hoping he could just stay and do the color commentary for our game. He's a great personality.
i'm sure this has been discussed but why is creighton "on the bubble'? that's not good for us even though winning 3 in a row against same opponent isn't easy. however, we are going up against a big motivator here.
regardless, MU by 3-5 go warriors!!
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 10, 2022, 01:32:36 PM
I was hoping he could just stay and do the color commentary for our game. He's a great personality.
Agreed. He's awesome. They wanted him to stay, too!
Made a bet on Marquette to win BET when we were 0-3 for 1 unit to win 150 units. They're offering me 10 units to cash out. No cash out No hedge baby!! Go Marquette!!!
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 10, 2022, 01:30:38 PM
Many said that. That was 9 years ago. Egg on face. Rothstein said years ago the Big East, A-10 and American would be fight each other for bids.
Right but to my knowledge the Big East does not have them as one of key announcers for their flagship event. I should dig up his original discussion. It was something else.
Saw Cooley addressing his team postgame in the locker room and I can see why his team does what he asks and wins the close games.
And he even complimented a guy for making a couple FT's. Too many coaches blow off their importance.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on March 10, 2022, 01:47:49 PM
Right but to my knowledge the Big East does not have them as one of key announcers for their flagship event. I should dig up his original discussion. It was something else.
Since coming Fox Sports, he is a Big East honk. Which is great. He might have been bitter since he is good friends with the AAC commissioner from their CBS days.
My daughter and I got our tickets upgraded!
St. John's boat racing Nova currently
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 10, 2022, 07:17:08 PM
St. John's boat racing Nova currently
The BEast could really struggle in the tournament.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 10, 2022, 07:24:46 PM
The BEast could really struggle in the tournament.
Why?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 10, 2022, 07:27:09 PM
Why?
I dunno. I don't think great team and there aren't a lot of future pros
Nova kept playing
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 10, 2022, 07:46:54 PM
Nova kept playing
We kept playing too but there's no sense of urgency from the tip. I was also disappointed with our celebrations after a few good plays. This team is very slow to get back in transition and do a poor job valuing the basketball and snagging rebs with authority.
Posh Alexander is flopping like he's a Badger.
SJU bid thief🤔
And SJU can't quite do it. Weird team
That's as gusty as it gets from Nova. Wow
Was that a foul at the end?
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 10, 2022, 08:18:42 PM
Was that a foul at the end?
Good question. I think it was iffy.
Jeffery Anderson with the hack across the arms call ! ! ! 8-)
Anyone have the correct MU vs. Creighton box score?
Marquette's has Stevie with 22 minutes.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/gomarquette.com/documents/2022/3/10/2067094.PDF
ESPN and Pomeroy have him with 18.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401403345
Fox Sports with 2 minutes which I believe is correct.
https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/marquette-golden-eagles-vs-creighton-bluejays-mar-10-2022-game-boxscore-239049
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 11, 2022, 07:23:06 AM
Anyone have the correct MU vs. Creighton box score?
Marquette's has Stevie with 22 minutes.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/gomarquette.com/documents/2022/3/10/2067094.PDF
ESPN and Pomeroy have him with 18.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401403345
Fox Sports with 2 minutes which I believe is correct.
https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/marquette-golden-eagles-vs-creighton-bluejays-mar-10-2022-game-boxscore-239049
Fox Sports one is correct, he played 2 minutes.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 11, 2022, 08:15:28 AM
Fox Sports one is correct, he played 2 minutes.
Odd. The differences go beyond player minutes like rebounds. I am not convinced any of these are correct but I agree Fox's is closer to actual.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 11, 2022, 08:31:13 AM
Odd. The differences go beyond player minutes like rebounds. I am not convinced any of these are correct but I agree Fox's is closer to actual.
Did a quick fast forward replay of the game and pretty sure the line of 2 minutes and 0's across the board is accurate. Biggest coaching mistake of yesterday was only playing Stevie 2 minutes..and there were several coaching blunders.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 11, 2022, 08:43:54 AM
Did a quick fast forward replay of the game and pretty sure the line of 2 minutes and 0's across the board is accurate. Biggest coaching mistake of yesterday was only playing Stevie 2 minutes..and there were several coaching blunders.
Stevie playing 2 minutes was such a head scratcher. I really don't get it. He gives the team so much energy on defense and sort of epitomizes the "havoc" style of play Shaka seemingly wants.
When Stevie slapped the floor in the second half against St Johns, the crowd went crazy. It was actually one of the cooler moments I'd seen at an MU game in a while.
In the tournament, I'd love to see us mix it up, go small, and give Stevie and Darryl the free reign to give the other team's guards hell man to man full court for an extended period. I think we'd like what we'd see.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 11, 2022, 08:43:54 AM
Did a quick fast forward replay of the game and pretty sure the line of 2 minutes and 0's across the board is accurate. Biggest coaching mistake of yesterday was only playing Stevie 2 minutes..and there were several coaching blunders.
Agreed, especially with the starting Creighton PG out and MU needing to press from behind.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 11, 2022, 08:59:44 AM
Stevie playing 2 minutes was such a head scratcher. I really don't get it. He gives the team so much energy on defense and sort of epitomizes the "havoc" style of play Shaka seemingly wants.
When Stevie slapped the floor in the second half against St Johns, the crowd went crazy. It was actually one of the cooler moments I'd seen at an MU game in a while.
In the tournament, I'd love to see us mix it up, go small, and give Stevie and Darryl the free reign to give the other team's guards hell man to man full court for an extended period. I think we'd like what we'd see.
Agree.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 11, 2022, 09:02:32 AM
Agreed, especially with the starting Creighton PG out and MU needing to press from behind.
100% Alexander played 39 minutes. He did hit some clutch, tough midrange shots in the second half, yet facing bulldog defense from Stevie for 20 minutes full court I suspect would have resulted in more turnovers and reduced second half efficiency.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 11, 2022, 07:23:06 AM
Anyone have the correct MU vs. Creighton box score?
Marquette's has Stevie with 22 minutes.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/gomarquette.com/documents/2022/3/10/2067094.PDF
ESPN and Pomeroy have him with 18.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401403345
Fox Sports with 2 minutes which I believe is correct.
https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/marquette-golden-eagles-vs-creighton-bluejays-mar-10-2022-game-boxscore-239049
Not your point, but it's concerning to me that Marquette's official box score could be this wrong - especially since you would think they maintain the "official" record books for Marquette.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 11, 2022, 09:07:57 AM
Agree.
100% Alexander played 39 minutes. He did hit some clutch, tough midrange shots in the second half, yet facing bulldog defense from Stevie for 20 minutes full court I suspect would have resulted in more turnovers and reduced second half efficiency.
Yep Stevie needs more time. He is more of a threat than Kolek at this time offensively and defensively.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 11, 2022, 09:39:16 AM
Not your point, but it's concerning to me that Marquette's official box score could be this wrong - especially since you would think they maintain the "official" record books for Marquette.
Bah, but how accurate was the Deflections white board?
The Elliott playing is very confusing to me. If he is not shooting well, which he is not, he brings nothing to the table. Not sure who is softer, Oso or him. He falls down on every drive, why. Hope this is his last year as they need at least one big man to come in or two if Lewis leaves. Lewis is very interesting player, hustles on O and on D barely moves his feet, really needs another year but doubt it, might be a two way player in NBA.
This is likely overly simplistic, but I'd bring Greg in off the bench and try to run some stuff to get him an open look. If he's hitting, he keeps playing. If he's not, he doesn't bring a ton of value.
Depending on the matchup, I'd like to see more OMax and Stevie, less Greg and the bigs.
They rebound like ass anyway, run more JL at the 5 lineups and be more disruptive on both ends.
I liked Lewis at the 5 against certain lineups, gives MU an edge since both centers brings zero skill on the O side. Should have done that more with Joplin and Omax at the forwards during the year. Neither center really rebounds are all.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 11, 2022, 09:47:39 AM
Yep Stevie needs more time. He is more of a threat than Kolek at this time offensively and defensively.
Kolek is the better player and only Shaka knows how his guys would respond to being benched, but I'd start Stevie for the first four minutes of our tournament game. This team has been lacking energy to start and I'm almost certain they wouldn't come out sluggish if Stevie was in there
Eye test only, but I think the small lineup with Lewis at the 5 has been the most productive on offense of late. Lewis, OMax, Oso, Kam and Stevie/Kolek. Options to space the floor, and big time length on the wings on defense.
Lewis has the strength to bang down low, and he can actually handle Kolek's 95 mph passes from 5 feet away that neither Kuath or Oso have any chance whatsoever of catching.
Greg should be used as nothing more than a situational shooter or decoy option at this point. It stinks, but he just looks lost out there.
should be us out there :'(. btw does prov domimate anybody?
Wow. Creighton by 15?
Looks like the Jays with 6 players are gonna run Providence out of the building. Is Kalky a pro?
Cooley & Company suffering from Russian sanctions
Will be shocked if Providence makes the sweet 16. Luckiest team in America. Think it wears out real soon here.
This has gotten ugly. 27-2 run.
I like that Kaluma kid. Look out for Creighton next year if Kalbrenner is back.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 11, 2022, 06:46:46 PM
Cooley & Company suffering from Russian sanctions
+++ outta gas
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 11, 2022, 06:47:20 PM
Will be shocked if Providence makes the sweet 16. Luckiest team in America. Think it wears out real soon here.
Providence last run to the Sweet 16 was when they smacked Mike Deane and MU.
This is an absolute massacre.
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 11, 2022, 10:11:55 AM
The Elliott playing is very confusing to me. If he is not shooting well, which he is not, he brings nothing to the table.
Elliott helps space the court, as defenses try to account for him. Also, he is one of the few MU players who has been aggressively taking the ball to the hoop and drawing fouls, which is good because he's our best FT shooter.
Having said that, he's a defensive liability and a poor ballhandler, and I'd definitely play him less when he's not hitting his jumper.
That he and Kam have shot much worse the last few weeks has contributed greatly to our struggles as a team. It's hard to win in today's game without hitting 3s.
Quote from: MU82 on March 11, 2022, 06:56:39 PM
Elliott helps space the court, as defenses try to account for him. Also, he is one of the few MU players who has been aggressively taking the ball to the hoop and drawing fouls, which is good because he's our best FT shooter.
Having said that, he's a defensive liability and a poor ballhandler, and I'd definitely play him less when he's not hitting his jumper.
That he and Kam have shot much worse the last few weeks has contributed greatly to our struggles as a team. It's hard to win in today's game without hitting 3s.
Yes, but our defense regressing is the bigger issue.....although there are a lot of issues.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 11, 2022, 06:58:33 PM
Yes, but our defense regressing is the bigger issue.....although there are a lot of issues.
I'm not lobbying for more PT for Greg. BCH said Greg "brings nothing," and I just explained why Shaka might disagree with that assertion.
I happen to think Greg's been playing too much, but darn, Shaka hasn't asked for my input.
I don't think this will be the last time in the next week that Providence gets smashed.
Creighton is so well coached. McDermott has worked mini miracles after losing the heartbeat of his team - job well done!
I'd set the over under on Big East teams to make the Sweet 16 at 1. Solid league but no absolute stud team(s). Big 12 and Big 10 ultimately are so much tougher leagues.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 11, 2022, 07:29:09 PM
I'd set the over under on Big East teams to make the Sweet 16 at 1. Solid league but no absolute stud team(s). Big 12 and Big 10 ultimately are so much tougher leagues.
Completely agree. I hope we're wrong
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 11, 2022, 07:29:09 PM
I'd set the over under on Big East teams to make the Sweet 16 at 1. Solid league but no absolute stud team(s). Big 12 and Big 10 ultimately are so much tougher leagues.
I was tracking with you until you typed "Big 10". No natties this century.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 11, 2022, 07:29:09 PM
I'd set the over under on Big East teams to make the Sweet 16 at 1. Solid league but no absolute stud team(s). Big 12 and Big 10 ultimately are so much tougher leagues.
There hasn't been a "B10" for a long time. The league doesn't exist.
Creighton is going to be a problem next year
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2022, 07:42:56 PM
Creighton is going to be a problem next year
I wish teams looked at their schedules and viewed us as a problem.
I hope Nova kicks the crap out of UCONN. I'm also pleased Creighton shellacked Providence.
Quote from: MUnewbie on March 11, 2022, 07:45:23 PM
I wish teams looked at their schedules and viewed us as a problem.
Black lives matter
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2022, 07:42:56 PM
Creighton is going to be a problem next year
They were a problem this year.
Are Hawkins and O'Connell coming back? Either way they have some players.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2022, 07:42:56 PM
Creighton is going to be a problem next year
Creighton's freshmen matured fast. Nemhard hit a rough patch mid season and Mac started letting Trey play more point and let Ryan work off ball to take some pressure off. The transition to Alexander as lead point guard after Nemhard went down was so much more seamless than it could have been.
Despite our probs, the BEast tournament is by far the best. It's not close. Great job to secure MSG.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 11, 2022, 08:06:40 PM
Are Hawkins and O'Connell coming back? Either way they have some players.
Hawkins is class of '16, so I doubt he has any eligibility left. I think O'Connell is gone but I think they younger players are better
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 11, 2022, 07:29:09 PM
I'd set the over under on Big East teams to make the Sweet 16 at 1. Solid league but no absolute stud team(s). Big 12 and Big 10 ultimately are so much tougher leagues.
I actually think the opposite this season.
Don't forget, the BE had a nice OOC versus both the B12 and B10.
Also, the BE has several top 50 defenses, including 4 in the top 35 with Nova, SH, Creighton, UConn.
Only Providence and X are outside the top 50 defensively.
Defense wins games in the big dance.
I wouldn't be surprised to see 4 BE teams in the sweet 16, and would be surprised to see less than 3
Quote from: DoctorV on March 11, 2022, 08:42:59 PM
I actually think the opposite this season.
Don't forget, the BE had a nice OOC versus both the B12 and B10.
Also, the BE has several top 50 defenses, including 4 in the top 35 with Nova, SH, Creighton, UConn.
Only Providence and X are outside the top 50 defensively.
Defense wins games in the big dance.
I wouldn't be surprised to see 4 BE teams in the sweet 16, and would be surprised to see less than 3
Villanova, UConn and maybe Creighton are the only good chances I see. Outside shot for MU for example.
UConn is the only team I can confidently say is equipped to make a run. Nova will be very matchup dependent.
Quote from: panda on March 11, 2022, 09:17:57 PM
UConn is the only team I can confidently say is equipped to make a run. Nova will be very matchup dependent.
I thought early in the year UCONN had F4 potential. Nova could be in trouble against a team with bigs.
9 minutes to go in Villanova / UConn game and Villanova just committed their 3rd turnover. Wow. Impressive. That is taking care of the ball
Quote from: Daniel on March 11, 2022, 09:45:23 PM
9 minutes to go in Villanova / UConn game and Villanova just committed their 3rd turnover. Wow. Impressive. That is taking care of the ball
Such a important stat. They don't beat themselves and they know how to control tempo. All of there guys have excellent footwork and overall fundamentals. It's noticeable that we have struggled in these areas for some time.
OMG what a block!
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 11, 2022, 09:52:40 PM
Such a important stat. They don't beat themselves and they know how to control tempo. All of there guys have excellent footwork and overall fundamentals. It's noticeable that we have struggled in these areas for some time.
Transitive property in full effect, let's go Nova!!!
Nova is so good
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 11, 2022, 10:01:21 PM
Nova is so good
Every damn year. Can we get a point guard like Gillespie? This team is always in control. They don't turn it over and rarely miss a free throw. The Cats are a joy to watch. MU's biggest accomplishment this season is pulling off the Nova sweep.
Nova should have fouled Sanogo there.
Quote from: bradforster on March 11, 2022, 10:05:54 PM
Every damn year. Can we get a point guard like Gillespie? This team is always in control. They don't turn it over and rarely miss a free throw. The Cats are a joy to watch. MU's biggest accomplishment this season is pulling off the Nova sweep.
This Nova team is somewhat smoke and mirrors. Play slow but don't do anything poorly. Simply sound. Jay knows his teams now. He'd be a real good NBA coach
Quote from: bradforster on March 11, 2022, 10:05:54 PM
Every damn year. Can we get a point guard like Gillespie? This team is always in control. They don't turn it over and rarely miss a free throw. The Cats are a joy to watch. MU's biggest accomplishment this season is pulling off the Nova sweep.
People shouldn't forget that. This MU team has talent. The good thing is we will have a blank slate Thurs/Fri but it's extremely disappointing that things kind of went off the rails.
Boy is Hurley annoying.
congrats to nova 4 another freakin bet title :0
Jay Wright is classy
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 11, 2022, 10:24:16 PM
Jay Wright is classy
He recruited Collin Gillespie, a three star prospect, and helped turn him into a two time BE player of the year. Jay Wright is truly remarkable.
Quote from: bradforster on March 11, 2022, 10:43:13 PM
He recruited Collin Gillespie, a three star prospect, and helped turn him into a two time BE player of the year. Jay Wright is truly remarkable.
I'm not sure half of the Nova players under him that made the NBA would have without his coaching.
Anybody who says they don't care how Marquette does in the BE tourney is crazy. I hate the fact that we rarely make it to the Friday nite games.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 11, 2022, 10:52:17 PM
Anybody who says they don't care how Marquette does in the BE tourney is crazy. I hate the fact that we rarely make it to the Friday nite games.
It does suck. Hopefully we get lucky with a decent draw as a 10 seed.
Quote from: bradforster on March 11, 2022, 10:05:54 PM
Every damn year. Can we get a point guard like Gillespie? This team is always in control. They don't turn it over and rarely miss a free throw. The Cats are a joy to watch. MU's biggest accomplishment this season is pulling off the Nova sweep.
Why can't we get Kalkbrenner and Gillespie? Maybe we could just get Sanogo, Freeman-Liberty, Champagnie, and keep Lewis while we're at it?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 11, 2022, 10:12:31 PM
Boy is Hurley annoying.
He deserves to get T'd up about 25 times a game. I give the refs credit for restraint.
Quote from: bradforster on March 11, 2022, 10:43:13 PM
He recruited Collin Gillespie, a three star prospect, and helped turn him into a two time BE player of the year. Jay Wright is truly remarkable.
I think this is more Jay Wright as an excellent evaluator of talent than a miracle worker. Gillespie was a late bloomer. He was Philly POY his senior year, not like he was some mediocre prospect turned into a gem.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 11, 2022, 10:51:51 PM
I'm not sure half of the Nova players under him that made the NBA would have without his coaching.
Again, I'm a big Wright fan, but this is hyperbole.
Jalen Brunson was arguably the top PG in his class.
Arci I was a top 50 recruit even after missing his entire senior year and was All-Rookie in the BE
Bridges, Hart, and Saddiq Bey were top 80 recruits
JRE was a McDonald's AA
Again, Wright has an amazing eye for talent and fitting players into his team and knowing what his team has. I honestly think Marquette has more NBA alums over the last 10-15 years that developed that make you go "how the hell did he end up there" aka Bucyks, Juan, etc than Nova
Quote from: MU82 on March 12, 2022, 12:23:33 AM
He deserves to get T'd up about 25 times a game. I give the refs credit for restraint.
Did you see that one reaction where he screamed "that's effin bcrap", looked like he was going to tackle the ref like a middle linebacker, and had to be restrained by one of his assistants? I don't mind coaches working refs or even a demonstrative reaction occasionally. When you do it 25 times a game and run onto the court like an assclown? That's totally ridiculous.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 12, 2022, 12:31:18 AM
I think this is more Jay Wright as an excellent evaluator of talent than a miracle worker. Gillespie was a late bloomer. He was Philly POY his senior year, not like he was some mediocre prospect turned into a gem.
Again, I'm a big Wright fan, but this is hyperbole.
Jalen Brunson was arguably the top PG in his class.
Arci I was a top 50 recruit even after missing his entire senior year and was All-Rookie in the BE
Bridges, Hart, and Saddiq Bey were top 80 recruits
JRE was a McDonald's AA
Again, Wright has an amazing eye for talent and fitting players into his team and knowing what his team has. I honestly think Marquette has more NBA alums over the last 10-15 years that developed that make you go "how the hell did he end up there" aka Bucyks, Juan, etc than Nova
.I don't think most #50 or higher players make it to the NBA. Brunson was an exception for sure among his recruits. But if you go down the list I don't think most of his guys were on the NBA radar until at least one year under Wright. Spellman is another exception as his best recruit and he didn't make it.
I was so glad that Nova won after being surrounded by way over the top UCONN fans. There were thousands of Hurley's at the MSG. Seton Hall fans are no match for them. Every single foul, block, rebound, anything and everything set them off. I neither have nor need statistics to confidently state that Storrs Connecticut has more proctologists per capita than any other locality in the country.
Tonight's game fascinates me. Creighton is playing with tons of confidence and Nova is the best run program in the nation. Probably recency bias, but this feels like the best Big East final in awhile.
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 11, 2022, 10:20:33 AM
I liked Lewis at the 5 against certain lineups, gives MU an edge since both centers brings zero skill on the O side. Should have done that more with Joplin and Omax at the forwards during the year. Neither center really rebounds are all.
It's amazing how Nova always finds a way to defend and board with often nobody out there over 6'7".
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 11, 2022, 10:52:17 PM
Anybody who says they don't care how Marquette does in the BE tourney is crazy. I hate the fact that we rarely make it to the Friday nite games.
100% agree. This is in line with the disappointing reality that we were supposed to be one of the pillars of the revamped BE and haven't come close to carrying our weight. Mostly optimistic but not convinced yet that better days are ahead.
Quote from: StillWarriors on March 12, 2022, 09:21:13 AM
100% agree. This is in line with the disappointing reality that we were supposed to be one of the pillars of the revamped BE and haven't come close to carrying our weight. Mostly optimistic but not convinced yet that better days are ahead.
I think better days are ahead but the fact that we have seemingly regressed is really frustrating. The good news is we have a clean slate Thurs or Fri but we played poorly in the BET and in the past month.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 12, 2022, 06:51:08 AM
I was so glad that Nova won after being surrounded by way over the top UCONN fans. There were thousands of Hurley's at the MSG. Seton Hall fans are no match for them. Every single foul, block, rebound, anything and everything set them off. I neither have nor need statistics to confidently state that Storrs Connecticut has more proctologists per capita than any other locality in the country.
Actually, Snoop, a correction is needed. Storrs (and CT in general) has more people who need a proctologist than elsewhere. Proctologists are apparently in short supply in CT. That's why so many
of its residents stay a-holes.
Quote from: StillWarriors on March 12, 2022, 09:21:13 AM
100% agree. This is in line with the disappointing reality that we were supposed to be one of the pillars of the revamped BE and haven't come close to carrying our weight. Mostly optimistic but not convinced yet that better days are ahead.
Most disappointing is that CREIGHTON has now made the Big East Championship game 4 times.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 12, 2022, 10:21:28 AM
Most disappointing is that CREIGHTON has now made the Big East Championship game 4 times.
Coaching.
Greg Gard continues his terrible record in the Big 14 Tournament
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 12, 2022, 10:55:45 AM
Coaching.
Absolutely. McDermott is running rings around Shaka in BEast
Quote from: willie warrior on March 12, 2022, 12:28:30 PM
Absolutely. McDermott is running rings around Shaka in BEast
Shaka's running rings around Jay Wright
Rings 'round da bathtub. It don't matta. Let's revisit after Shaka brings in a couple of his own recruitin' classes. He's basically working with marginal BE talent, hey?
I think Creighton should launch a few more early-clock 3s.
Quote from: MU82 on March 12, 2022, 06:14:46 PM
I think Creighton should launch a few more early-clock 3s.
This game is terrible. This is how Nova loses in the tournament. The metrics love the offense but it's got the Virginia/Wisconsin vibe
Wow. Ugly hoops.
There has been good D by both teams, for sure, but neither team can make a shot. And Creighton especially is settling for too many Js.
Gus just snapped. I think he's seen enough of this game.
Quote from: bananahammock on March 12, 2022, 06:49:07 PM
Gus just snapped. I think he's seen enough of this game.
He is right. Too many chucking up of shots. He said you have 7'1 guy, go to him. Next play 7'1 guy easy basket.
Jeff Potrykus must be furious he isn't covering this game
Danger zone for Creighton
Nice tip by Kalky. Strange game.
Very entertaining second half.
F' Creighton
Yeah, that's the BEPOY
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 12, 2022, 07:28:40 PM
Yeah, that's the BEPOY
Just said the exact same thing.
WTF was Kalk doing on that Moore basket? Guarding air?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 12, 2022, 07:35:02 PM
WTF was Kalk doing on that Moore basket? Guarding air?
Again, you read my mind, Unk.
Of course, that's a short story, not War & Peace.
Someone on here said Gillespie is the weakest BE POY ever. I disagree, It's not about who projects to the next level, but the guy who helps his team win against collegiate competition. I would take Gillespie on my team team any day - smart, clutch and unflappable. He's won the award twice for a reason. He's the captain of a high caliber, winning team.
Quote from: MU82 on March 12, 2022, 07:36:32 PM
Again, you read my mind, Unk.
Of course, that's a short story, not War & Peace.
Moore is backing down O'Connell and has a distinct advantage with the clock running down. Get over and help. Not a great game but emblematic of what Nova is this year and what Creighton is. Congrats to both
The Big East is very fortunate to have MSG. The atmosphere is incredible and it's head and shoulders above every other conference tournament. The Big Ten and ACC are very jealous of it.
Ryan Hawkins was big time scorer vs MU
He really laid an egg tonight
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Tough game..... go Villanova, nice win
Quote from: StateStreetMission on March 12, 2022, 07:46:01 PM
Ryan Hawkins was big time scorer vs MU
He really laid an egg tonight
No kidding. Where were those clanks off the rim on Thursday? The entire Creighton team was downright awful from three in this one.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 12, 2022, 07:44:13 PM
The Big East is very fortunate to have MSG. The atmosphere is incredible and it's head and shoulders above every other conference tournament. The Big Ten and ACC are very jealous of it.
Big East has sold out the last 4 sessions. The Big Ten and ACC hasn't sold out one session.
Quote from: bradforster on March 12, 2022, 07:50:41 PM
No kidding. Where were those clanks off the rim on Thursday? The entire Creighton team was downright awful from three in this one.
That's college basketball for you.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 12, 2022, 07:44:13 PM
The Big East is very fortunate to have MSG. The atmosphere is incredible and it's head and shoulders above every other conference tournament. The Big Ten and ACC are very jealous of it.
Which is why I get so upset that Marquette too often craps the bed early at the tournament. I think the Friday nite doubleheader is as good as it gets for college basketball.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 12, 2022, 07:51:13 PM
Big East has sold out the last 4 sessions. The Big Ten and ACC hasn't sold out one session.
Plus the Friday night semi- sat night final adds to the excitement. Always more juice at the BET.
Mid-afternoon, the lowest priced tickets for tonight's BE championship game were going for about $80. ACC would set you back $20.
Quote from: bradforster on March 12, 2022, 07:50:41 PM
No kidding. Where were those clanks off the rim on Thursday? The entire Creighton team was downright awful from three in this one.
Part of why I have hope for the tourney. It feels like we're defending and forcing tough shots that just seem to go in lately. A few of those go away for an opponent, tilts our way.
Clean slate for Thursday. Hoping we see a return to the team concept we know these guys can play and succeed with (seriously though...pass outta doubles, Justin).
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 12, 2022, 10:34:29 PM
Part of why I have hope for the tourney. It feels like we're defending and forcing tough shots that just seem to go in lately. A few of those go away for an opponent, tilts our way.
Clean slate for Thursday. Hoping we see a return to the team concept we know these guys can play and succeed with (seriously though...pass outta doubles, Justin).
Here's the glaring problem - the opponent misses and gets the rebound. The second chance points have killed MU all year. That's not changing in 21/22. Hopefully Shaka addresses that issue next season.
Quote from: bradforster on March 12, 2022, 10:45:54 PM
Here's the glaring problem - the opponent misses and gets the rebound. The second chance points have killed MU all year. That's not changing in 21/22. Hopefully Shaka addresses that issue next season.
The team was surprisingly good at preventing second chance points during the streak. But yes, dreb is an issue.
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