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We must be keying in on different posters but those I remember knew as soon as four years ago that theoretically losing Burton, Dawson, Johnson and Fischer in one year would cause a massive drop off this year. Sure it didn’t play out like that but still figured a similar step back.
I agree with this. Everyone calling for Wojo's head right now - what's the alternative? Who do we bring in?
There's a lot of frustration in here. Many of us want something that appears just outside of reach -- a return to glory. We are asking for consideration of adjustments that would facilitate the return.
I think more people would be OK with a step back, if it was a step back from big time success. What are we stepping back from? A 6th place conference finish and a blowout tournament loss as an 11 seed? It's not like we are reloading after some sweet 16 runs. Personally, I get sick of hearing the "wait until next year" stuff because it implies that Wojo hasn't had any talent yet, which I disagree with. I'm beginning to doubt Wojo some because I think some of his teams so far have underperformed. Last year's team must have had something like 7-8 former 4 star, top 100 recruits and that doesn't even include guys like Rowsey and Reinhardt who were proven, experienced veterans at the college level. How many teams around the country had that type of raw talent? That team should have been better than a one and done 11 seed, IMO.The year before he had a lot of those same guys and a 5 star one and done lottery talent. Not even getting a NIT berth with that squad, that was underperforming. How much talent does he need before MU can compete for a Big East title and a Sweet 16 run? Sure next year's team looks good on paper but so did the Ellenson team, and so did last year's team.I'm not a fire Wojo club member right now, but I'm starting to get concerned and have been pretty unimpressed to date. I wouldn't say his seat should be hot, but it shouldn't be cold either.
+1I guess this is where I am at right now. In Wojo’s defense though, it looks like he is doing things the “right” way and also building for long term success. That’s what makes me be a little more patient. I will sacrifice how long it takes to get there if it can be sustainable over a long time. I liked Buzz and always defended him, but he burned hot and you could see what he was doing was going to flame out. (So I better go back and read my post before sending so the board Nazis call me out on something.)
I think the proper term is "Intelligencia"
hairyOne of my gripes was pointed out by Grimm. Last year's team way under performed IMO. Far from a FF team, but aside from Villanova win there were a lot of clunkers. I thought post 'Nova they might have something and they didn't. I'd give last year a C for a grade. Going back to a D this year would taste better if last year was B or B+.
PakuniRevisionist history per you. I think they had decent talent and played lousy more often than they should have. After 'Nova they were hit and miss. So much so, that folks on here were BEGGING for Matt Heldt to play over Luke.
PakuniCome on. Did last year disappoint you at with the results? I was not devastated with the result, but definitely thought they left some room for improvement. Everything is not black and white. A tad more success last year (which I believe was possible) would make this year easier.
So I am willing to be patient. I expect improvement next year and the year after. Substantial improvement. More balanced scoring. Better defense. Finish near the top of the conference. Second weekend in the NCAAs.If that doesn't happen next year, the seat should be warm. After the year after, he should be gone.
I will say that I have not seen on a regular basis from Wojo the alchemy, the 'it', that makes a team more than the sum of the parts. He can recruit men of high character and skill.
Got it. So even though they exceeded just about every objective preseason expectation (record, conference finish, Pomeroy, tournament status), they actually underperformed because some knuckleheads on Scoop thought Heldt should play over Luke.Makes a lot of sense when you put it that way.
In terms of what was predicted of them by so called experts, yes they met expectations. In terms of what is expected of a third year coach at supposed high level program maybe not so mich.
crapshoot, a1na?