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Author Topic: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond  (Read 3877 times)

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Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« on: December 02, 2023, 03:55:47 PM »
Obviously rebounding has been an issue so far during Shaka’s tenure and was a huge factor today. Based on personnel that’s unlikely to change this season.

From what I’ve gathered it’s usually a weakness of Shaka’s teams to varying degrees. Maybe we can’t expect this to become a consistent strength in the future but do we think it can become less of an issue down the road as the roster changes and continues to add some length and athleticism?

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2023, 03:58:34 PM »
His teams didn't rebound with NBA centers on them.It is not a major concern of his. Other factors matter more.

Having said that. The frontcourt play was embarassing. And i might make a change at the 4 spot. Even if it is too chase ross and the rebounding gets worse. The play from that position was abysmal.

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2023, 04:00:08 PM »
His teams didn't rebound with NBA centers on them.It is not a major concern of his. Other factors matter more.

Having said that. The frontcourt play was embarassing. And i might make a change at the 4 spot. Even if it is too chase ross and the rebounding gets worse. The play from that position was abysmal.

I understand it is not a major concern. The question is can different personnel make it less of a weakness going forward.

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2023, 04:01:18 PM »
His teams didn't rebound with NBA centers on them.It is not a major concern of his. Other factors matter more.

Having said that. The frontcourt play was embarassing. And i might make a change at the 4 spot. Even if it is too chase ross and the rebounding gets worse. The play from that position was abysmal.

Jop plays smaller than he is anyway, so I don't know if we're really losing that much with Chase there.

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2023, 04:01:49 PM »
The answer is already on the roster. Zaide had 7 rebounds in 14 minutes against Southern University. Shaka just likes Joplin more than he likes Zaide and winning basketball games combined.

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2023, 04:02:25 PM »
It's scheme more than players imo.

The guys are either out of position or trying to leak out. And in games like this, you're not getting out in transition anyway, let alone if you give up 2nd chance points, so you might as well get the fcking ball

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2023, 04:09:21 PM »
It is a recurring issue.

Starting 4 guards will certainly not improve it.

How many times has Shaka changed starting lineups mid year in the two plus he has been at MU?

Shaka is loyal to his upperclassmen.

Get used to this complaint.
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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2023, 04:11:27 PM »
His teams didn't rebound with NBA centers on them.It is not a major concern of his. Other factors matter more.

Having said that. The frontcourt play was embarassing. And i might make a change at the 4 spot. Even if it is too chase ross and the rebounding gets worse. The play from that position was abysmal.

Chase needs to learn how to stay on the floor. He is prone to picking up fouls.

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2023, 04:12:03 PM »
Same with Ben.  Next year's starting center.
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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2023, 04:15:49 PM »
Future MU looks to be bigger but if Kolek does not comeback next year, they should bring in a transfer to compete upfront with experience.  Should have done that this year, do not want to hear Shaka say we will improve within, not seen great improvement from some yet

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2023, 04:17:46 PM »
Next year's team, as currently projected, will have 6 players >6'7.   They will need to learn to play.
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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2023, 04:18:12 PM »
Same with Ben.  Next year's starting center.

Ben is to soft to play center much less power forward, can play it on O, but as you saw today he was not quick enough or strong enough t to guard the bigs

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2023, 04:21:26 PM »
Shaka is allergic to rebounders.

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2023, 04:30:26 PM »
Ben is to soft to play center much less power forward, can play it on O, but as you saw today he was not quick enough or strong enough t to guard the bigs

Ben is not soft, he is probably one of two maybe three players with an edge on this team. He isn’t quick enough or strong enough, yet, but he isn’t soft, in my opinion

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2023, 04:38:48 PM »
Same with Ben.  Next year's starting center.

Oso will be back next year if he continues to play the way he did today. Won’t even sniff the league.

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2023, 04:43:04 PM »
Oso will be back next year if he continues to play the way he did today. Won’t even sniff the league.

There’s literally no reason to think he’ll continue to play the way he did today.

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2023, 04:46:49 PM »
Other than in a big rivalry game on the road against a good team he played the way he did.


There’s literally no reason to think he’ll continue to play the way he did today.

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2023, 04:50:23 PM »
Oso will be back next year if he continues to play the way he did today. Won’t even sniff the league.

he says December 2.

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2023, 04:51:00 PM »
Oso has announced he won't be back.  He will have his MBA by the end of the school year.    Ben will start at the 5 next year.   Hopefully, he won't have a 6 week gap on his skill development and conditioning.
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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2023, 04:51:09 PM »
Other than in a big rivalry game on the road against a good team he played the way he did.

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2023, 04:52:41 PM »
Ben is not soft, he is probably one of two maybe three players with an edge on this team. He isn’t quick enough or strong enough, yet, but he isn’t soft, in my opinion

??  He's as soft as a pillow.
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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2023, 04:53:28 PM »
he says December 2.

…yes Dec 2nd. After a mediocre Wisc. Team just handed us our a$$. Oso was awful today, you disagree?

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2023, 04:54:49 PM »
Other than in a big rivalry game on the road against a good team he played the way he did.

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Dumb.

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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2023, 04:55:20 PM »
Oso has announced he won't be back.  He will have his MBA by the end of the school year.    Ben will start at the 5 next year.   Hopefully, he won't have a 6 week gap on his skill development and conditioning.

Fair point. Forgot he had stated this

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Re: Rebounding Next Season & Beyond
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2023, 05:19:41 PM »
Serious question-

Why does Shaka not care about rebounding?